KTU Discussion Thread

[btwnymoeu86]

I figure someone started an official 92.7 discussion thread back when, so why not start one for KTU since there are a few things I want to bring up, and I'm sure other people might as well, so why not keep something running.

First off, I read on a myspace group that as of JUNE 1st, WHOOPI GOLDBERG replaced Baltazar and Goumba Johnny in the morning?!? And they're not mentioned on ktu's site anymore!

WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?!?

I mean I hate them, but is this a sign of things to come, perhaps something drastic?

Also, has anyone noticed how though KTU isn't totally up to date with things, that in the past month things have gotten better?

Sometimes I check mmr247, and they have songs played as often as 38 times!!! Thats better then mid-winter's 27. Plus though they are playing some hip hop and stuff like that, they are playing newer music...

Cascada - Miracle
Danielle Bollinger - Kiss The Sky
Christina Milian - Say I
Nick Lachey - What's Left Of Me
Nelly Furtado - Promiscuous
Jeannie Ortega - Crowded
Mario Vasquez - Gallery
Bob Sinclair - Love Generation.

...food for thought.

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I read about the Whoopi thing on AllAccess also. I was like, "Whoopi?! Whoa." when I read it .

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Yeah, I read the Whoopi thing on All Access as well. Recently, I've been having a heated discussion (with my dad, LOL) about KTU's format and how they play "new music" that's been out for more than 7 months ("Love Generation" and "You Shine On Me")...disappointed. Where are Goumba and Balthazar?

[Moonshadow]

Whoopi is teaming up with Cubby from Z100 for the morning drive.

[btwnymoeu86]

moonshadow said:

Whoopi is teaming up with Cubby from Z100 for the morning drive.

Ummmm, what? On Z100 or KTU??? Elvis Duran and the Z morning Zoo are amazing, I pray not Z100.

[btwnymoeu86]

I was listening today, and I heard "KTU, new music." Yupp, that new song by Stunt, I think it's called Raindrops? BEEN OUT FOR 6 MONTHS NOW! So yea, not new.

I love having one thread to bitch in.

[Moonshadow]

btwnymoeu86 said:

moonshadow said:

Whoopi is teaming up with Cubby from Z100 for the morning drive.

Ummmm, what? On Z100 or KTU??? Elvis Duran and the Z morning Zoo are amazing, I pray not Z100.

No, it's going to be KTU-based.

[btwnymoeu86]

casino said:

btwnymoeu86 said:

I love having one thread to b**ch in.

Isn't one more than enough?    If there's a radio station I don't like, I simply stop listening to it, instead of kvetching about it 24/7.   Listen to the advice of M People and "move on up".  

pulsemusic.proboards48.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=dance&thread=1134411832

Hah, cause I love to b**ch.



And thanks Moonshadow.

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KTU is going downhill and it's getting worse.

Gone are the days when this station was cutting edge. The mixshows on the weekends are fine, but aside from that, it's all gone.

And I thought KNGY took too long to add some songs (they still do take a bit longer than some stations, but they have some exclusives that no other stations have added yet, or if they did, they dumped them)!

And what's the point of the no-repeat workday thing? It's kinda misleading to say it's no-repeat when they play the same songs each and every workday. How many other dance stations in the U.S. play "Baby Talk" and "Spring Love" every single day!

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eros said:

And what's the point of the no-repeat workday thing? It's kinda misleading to say it's no-repeat when they play the same songs each and every workday. How many other dance stations in the U.S. play "Baby Talk" and "Spring Love" every single day!

TOTALLY. I know some of it is classic. But honestly, how much Stevie B., how much Cover Girls, and how much Barry White can the greater NYC area stand?!?!

I called in about a week ago when I heard Amber's "One More Night" followed by Delerium's "Silence" (which they did NOT PLAY in 2001 when it was a massive hit), and told the girl answering that the last 8 minutes were the reason I haven't given up on KTU yet.

As I've said numerous times, if they're going to play the classics, play a few an hour, and allow the majority of the no-repeat workday include their hits from the last 10 years. Hell, they overplayed "In De Ghetto" so much from 1996-1998 that I never wanted to hear it again, but I totally would like to hear it since I haven't since then!

Then again, let's have them not include "Where Do You Go" or "Total Eclipse of the Heart", lol.

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moonshadow said:

As I've said numerous times, if they're going to play the classics, play a few an hour, and allow the majority of the no-repeat workday include their hits from the last 10 years.  Hell, they overplayed "In De Ghetto" so much from 1996-1998 that I never wanted to hear it again, but I totally would like to hear it since I haven't since then!

"In De Ghetto" has been played a lot here since 1994. At least they played the breaks mix of it here.

[muscleclub]

Anyone heard Anna Vissi's "Welcome To The Party" on KTU? I read that they started giving the song some spins and wanted to make sure it's not just a rumor. Thanks!

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muscleclub said:

Anyone heard Anna Vissi's "Welcome To The Party" on KTU? I read that they started giving the song some spins and wanted to make sure it's not just a rumor. Thanks!

This song has received 80 spins to date on radio. Total. So that could possibly include KTU.

But since it is the next single, radio may have temporarily dropped it until it gets a proper release and promotion.

[muscleclub]

eros said:

muscleclub said:

Anyone heard Anna Vissi's "Welcome To The Party" on KTU? I read that they started giving the song some spins and wanted to make sure it's not just a rumor. Thanks!

This song has received 80 spins to date on radio. Total. So that could possibly include KTU.

But since it is the next single, radio may have temporarily dropped it until it gets a proper release and promotion.

Could you please check if that number change in the next week or so ... this way we can find out if KTU actually give the song some early test spins. Thanks!

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muscleclub said:

eros said:

This song has received 80 spins to date on radio. Total. So that could possibly include KTU.

But since it is the next single, radio may have temporarily dropped it until it gets a proper release and promotion.

Could you please check if that number change in the next week or so ... this way we can find out if KTU actually give the song some early test spins. Thanks!

I could check.

Our good friend Botoxic often has access to test spin information so he may be able to find out for us.

[btwnymoeu86]

It's funny since KTU has gone downhill and my mother has gotten more in to dancey stuff, as opposed to the adult station on LI with some disco and stuff, she listens to 102.7 WNEW out of the city, and I really find myself listening SOO much more to 102.7 then 103.5 - it's like one or two new school songs an hour (like KTU) but instead of 1960s music without a beat and freestyle which KTU considers dance, everything on 102.7 has a beat, rhythm etc... It's a lotta fun to listen to!

Also, I just think that KTU should become a party station, not a dance station. They like dance, hip hop, freestyle, etc...

Why would KTU pass by songs like Black Eyed Peas Pump It, if they like the more hip hop (aka "ethnic" in my opinion) style, why not remixes to Shakira's Don't Bother? If they like being popular, as much as I hate the bitch, Natasha Bedingfield had Unwritten remixed by Johnny Vicious. Fall Out Boy was mad popular, why not the Sunshine mix to Dance Dance?

And honestly - why they still play the regular album versions of ALL Mariah songs, I don't know... even Be Without You by Mary J... they played the Moto Blanco for like three weeks or so, now it's back to the slow r&b album version. I understand playing regular versions of everything Shakira, Chris Brown, Christina Milian, Rihanna, from Pon de Replay and SOS, and now even Unfaithful!!!, Jeannie Ortega, on and on - there were never any good mixes of those... Run It only had a Nevins and the hott "That Kid Chris" mix, and especially with Rihanna, wow, how they never play a remix of her stuff I don't know.

Anyways, listening to NEW is pretty good, and last week I heard either Debbie Loeb or Kristine Hendrick's Valentin mix song on WNEW, NY's Classic dance station nonetheless, thought perhaps KTU caught on, but no. Give NEW a shot.

Anyway, enough for tonight lol.

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btwnymoeu86 said:

It's funny since KTU has gone downhill and my mother has gotten more in to dancey stuff, as opposed to the adult station on LI with some disco and stuff, she listens to 102.7 WNEW out of the city, and I really find myself listening SOO much more to 102.7 then 103.5.

LOL! I think it's kinda cool when your parents start to like music you like! I used to turn the station to KNGY 92.7 in my Mom's car whenever I would visit, and now she listens to it regularly. She now has me make CD-Rs of some of the stuff I listen to because she likes it! In the beginning, it was weird having her ask me if I had any new Mariah Carey remixes almost everytime we talked because she was loving the other ones! "Say Somethin" as mixed by Morales and "Raindrops" by Stunt are her songs of the moment.

[btwnymoeu86]

eros said:

btwnymoeu86 said:

It's funny since KTU has gone downhill and my mother has gotten more in to dancey stuff, as opposed to the adult station on LI with some disco and stuff, she listens to 102.7 WNEW out of the city, and I really find myself listening SOO much more to 102.7 then 103.5.

LOL! I think it's kinda cool when your parents start to like music you like! I used to turn the station to KNGY 92.7 in my Mom's car whenever I would visit, and now she listens to it regularly. She now has me make CD-Rs of some of the stuff I listen to because she likes it! In the beginning, it was weird having her ask me if I had any new Mariah Carey remixes almost everytime we talked because she was loving the other ones! "Say Somethin" as mixed by Morales and "Raindrops" by Stunt are her songs of the moment.

Ha! As you know KTU still plays the isshhhh out of Mynt HDYK and Lucas Prata And SS, literally she knows both song's chorus, and it's hysterical. My dad doesn't even know KTU exists, but my mom knows every word to Cascada. Gay guys gotta show props to their moms lol.

[johnparker]

79 of the 80 Spins for Anna Vissi are from Sirius and they are no longer playing the record. In fact in the last 7 days, nobody has played it.

jp

[btwnymoeu86]

First thing;

Paul Cubby Bryant is leaving Z100 NY tomorrow... 2-6pm tomorrow is his last drive home on Z100 after over a decade. Z100 won't be the same. But neither will KTU. He is joining Whoopi Goldberg in late July on that talk show thing Clear Channel is doing. Hopefully KTU gets better when he joins. He is a very influential person and I know through having spoken with him a few times he is a dance music fan. We can hope!

Next, Has anyone heard the horrible mix ktu plays of Unfaithful by Rihanna? This horrible sped up/cracked out version? Meanwhile yea, Z100 (as I speak at 8:59) is doing the top 9 at 9, and is playing (every time I hear it now on Z100 in fact) the Moran/Rigg Dance remix! Gotta love Z100!

PS you can now also hear Field Mobb w/Ciara - So What, and Janet and Nelly's new snooze Call On Me, on KTU in all their album version glory!

[Moonshadow]

On July 31st at 6am, I strongly feel that KTU will be no more. If the producers have a satirical sense of humor, the last song will be "I Will Survive."

I'm interpreting Cubby's statement of the music being "compatible" with KTU's audience is basically another way of saying "most listeners are 18-34 year old females, and that group also likes Rob Thomas and Kelly Clarkson." So possibly the station will be like a PLJ of a few years back?

Maybe I'm wrong, but NYC radio is about to have a massive overhaul.

[btwnymoeu86]

moonshadow said:

So possibly the station will be like a PLJ of a few years back?

Is that a good or bad thing? I always was, still am, and pray that unless there is a huge change, I will always be a big fan of Z100. I never explored PLJ until maybe like three years ago, so the PLJ thing is a bad thing I'm assuming?

[btwnymoeu86]

At least in regards to that NYC radio overhaul comment, I can definetly see that happening as well...

I remember the doomsday scenario that occured when WXRK (k-roq) ended it's run and became Jack or something, the devistation people I know felt when it became a talk station during the day or weekdays or somethin, I never cared enough to know.

First off, not like I care in the slightest again, NYC doesn't have a country music station. That is weird. There have been huge fights between HOT 97 and Power105 djs as usual, but to a ridiculous level, esp. a few months back. KTU is melting down, and WNEW is stealing people away from KTU and Lite. Like I said Kroq is changing all the time now, I think they play music again during the week again now? KTU is having Whoopi and Cubby host a show in the mornings, and supposedly a few of KTU's other dj's left as well I remember reading somewhere. Some don't do radio, others like old school Joe Causi (now on WNEW) are on other stations.

No matter what I know what music I will and won't like, this will be a fun thing to see what happens with this whole mess throughout summer.

[Moonshadow]

WXRK 92.3 K-ROK became Free-FM talk radio on January 1st, 2006; David Lee Roth was hired and fired.  In May of 2006, music was once again played on the frequency after 7pm weekdays and on the weekends.  The music selection-- the "best" of rock (Q104.3 Classic Rock + today's big rock hits) mirrors the K-ROK of 2005. 

WCBS-FM 101.1 "Golden Oldies" became JACK-FM on June 3, 2005. 

WNEW 102.7, the former NYC all-talk station (which broadcasted Opie & Anthony before the St. Patrick's Cathedral debacle) began stunting a "best of CHR" format (meaning their playlist consisted of a lot of CHR hits of the most recent 5 years) in January 2003.  By April 2003 (April 15th?), they were 102.7 Blink: a CHR station with DJs, and continued this format through the summer.  Interestingly, they added a lot of stuff before Z100, including heavy rotation of The Ataris' "The Boys of Summer," prompting Z100 to add the track and see to its success. The most comical thing was their "you be the DJ" contest, wherein they tried to get a night DJ (at a $100,000/year salary) out of the listener pool, incorporating interactive American-Idol style voting after the 5 finalists were on the air. I remember one of them trying to introduce "Miss Independent" (played to death on Blink) and sounding so nervous and awful, haha.

At the end of the summer and early fall, 102.7 shifted from CHR to a more Mix 105.1 (WMXV//WNSR type-stuff, older stations on NYC Radio), catering to a female-oriented pop station.  In November, they played all Christmas music all the time.  On December 26, 2003, they resumed a Mix format, and by January 2005, began to stunt older dance tracks.  Finally, they became NY's Classic Dance Mix over the next few months.  The station is finally settled on a format that has kind of been working for them.

Here's what I see.  Cubby and Whoopi are going to KTU.  KTU will phase out the dance over the next few months and kind of become more Hot AC, yet play the occasional mainstream-enough dance track (eg., Shannon's "Let The Music Play" is a freestyle classic, but went Top 10 in 1984, so it'll get airplay; same with stuff like "Buffalo Stance" despite the rap, etc.)  PLJ used to do this a few years back but after the departing of personalities like Kim Ashley and Jamie Lee, has since expanded its playlist to include a lot of 1970s hits, whereas their moniker used to be "the best of the 80s, 90s, and today."  Their awesome Saturday Night 80s with Jamie Lee (which I listened to and taped all the time in high school, haha) is now the syndicated "Saturday Night At The 80s" with Todd Pettingale. 

Should that happen, Classic Dance Mix 102.7 will probably see a lot of the KTU switch and will be a pseudo-KTU, increasing its modern dance playlist to maybe 5 or so tracks an hour.  Or, if not, 102.7 will die and adopt an Alternative format, which NYC needs greatly. 

Honestly, who the hell really knows.  It's really going to be interesting to see.  In summary, my thoughts:

1.  Perhaps more than ever, New York Radio NEEDS an Alternative/AAA/New-Rock oriented station, and a fresh one at that.
2.  KTU will see great success with the nationally-syndicated Cubby/Whoopi morning drive, BUT at the expense of a LOT of loyal KTU fans, who for the time being will seek out 102.7 for music.
3.  NYC needs a good dance station, plain and simple.  It's a big city, and dance music is appreciated; Country is not.  KTU's sign-on in 1996 was revolutionary, and breathed life into NYC and caused then-alternative Z100 to be re-worked, just like Hot 103.5's sign-on in August of 1986 (after CHR 92-KTU died in July 1985) caused dance music to be added at Z100, thus proliferating it nationally. 

4.  I could be totally and completely wrong, and after the Whoopi morning drive, KTU goes back to dance music; if Cubby has a handle in this, it actually might get a little more fresh and a little better in terms of track and music.  The fact remains, though, that Baltazaar, Goumba Johnny, Broadway Bill Lee, and Jewlez Lopez (Jewlez en tu radio) are gone, and with the exception of Vic Latino's house party, Diane Prior, and Judy Torres, who knows who's coming to KTU. 

I could be wrong with some of my info but I'm recalling all of this to the best of my memory. 

[btwnymoeu86]

Ummm... Beatstock was amazing. I didn't get to see Joey Negro, Jeannie Ortega, Luz Divina, Danielle Bollinger, Bob Sinclar/Gary Pine, Reina, Freemasons, Stunt, Amuka, and prob a few others, we got to our seats at 705, the concert started at 6... but what I saw of it, just however many thousand people, at least 15,000, knowing every word to dance songs I knew... was just amazing. Lucas Prata was good, Kim Sozzi wasn't anything special, Amber was AMAZING, Rockell was great, and shockingly Angelo Venuto was outrageous! I'm sure I'm forgetting somethings, Jonathan Peters had EVERYONE out of their seats for like a 15/20 minute set of techno... seriously, if you love dance music and either 1) live in the area and haven't ever come to a beatstock, or 2) don't live in the area and haven't been able to go to one, you have no choice but to go next year... I'm saving up for it like I would a vacation next year, buying the best seats, tailgating even earlier, and not getting to the seats over an hour late!

You can't express what it's like to see sooooo many people know the words to a dance song in one place.

Heres their page www.ktu.com/pages/beatstock.html

[Moonshadow]

^^ Didn't you go last year to? How was it? I've been trying to win tickets since 2002 and have yet to go....somewhere on my cassette tapes of KTU I think I actually have the 2002 Beatstock promo recorded haha.

Quite honestly, KTU has done fairly well this summer in terms of music, mixshows, and tracks. I think this time last year it was wayyy worse.

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I don't understand why they don't add new songs and they are always so late; and have the same songs in the top 10 all year round - when they are a no-repeat-workday They only spin songs once a day, other than on weekends...They need to add all the new songs possible. The fact that they haven't added Debbie or Kristine is stupid.

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leigy said:

I don't understand why they don't add new songs and they are always so late; and have the same songs in the top 10 all year round - when they are a no-repeat-workday They only spin songs once a day, other than on weekends...They need to add all the new songs possible. The fact that they haven't added Debbie or Kristine is stupid.

KTU was one of the first stations to add the new Peter Luts and Beyonce tracks. For Yonka, I'm referring to the song "One Night Only."

[btwnymoeu86]

Hmmmm. why did they add the Peter Luts/Dominico song??? Hmmmm... oh right, she was able to perform at Beatstock... right...  Why was I soooo happy when the added Kiss The Sky? Right... cause I bet that she would be at Beatstock... Stunt back when... Why wasn't Paul Oakenfold added? He wasn't at Beatstock. I was happy when Elektro is Hot was added by Outwork/Mr. Gee... then Beatstock came around, and one of the only new techno songs, bam, dropped. They added Bob Sinclar's Love Generation and Rock This Party, right he was at Beatstock... They have artists like Beyonce and Sean Paul because they bring in audiences... it's just a coincidence that One Night Only is a dance song... if it sounded like Cassie, they would have added it too.

Give it a month, Danielle's song, Stunt's song, gone... They add songs that are one of these things, a) a dance song that will be at an event of theirs, or b) a hip hop song/ethnic song that has rhythm...

The one real thing that bothers me though is that they play the same songs every day in a different order from 9-5 during the no repeat workday... I hear Marc Anthony's I've Got You like everyday. It's soo annoying. Jennifer Lopez, Love Don't Cost AA Thing... Outkast HEY YA FOR CRYING OUTLOUD... The list I could come up with of songs they could play once in a while during their no repeat day at some point that are classics, but are just forgotten about, is ridiculous.

On that note though, who cares, I'm done caring... Beatstock was amazing, there is good music at all times in my car, and thats all that matters.

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Here is their current playlist:

lw TW Artist Title TW lw +/- Reach/
Mill
3 1 JUDY TORRES Faithfully 38 34 4 2.8764
4 2 NELLY FURTADO Promiscuous 32 26 6 2.434
5 3 SEAN PAUL (When You Gonna) Give It Up... 29 22 7 2.104
6 4 GNARLS BARKLEY Crazy 23 21 2 2.1773
1 5 RIHANNA Unfaithful 22 36 -14 1.9185
2 6 SHAKIRA F/WYCLEF JEAN Hips Don't Lie 21 34 -13 1.8481
12 7 STUNT Raindrops 21 19 2 1.7813
17 8 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE Sexyback 21 17 4 1.3133
8 9 CHRISTINA AGUILERA Ain't No Other Man 20 20 0 1.5708
7 10 NICK LACHEY What's Left Of Me 20 21 -1 1.9251
9 11 PUSSYCAT DOLLS Buttons 20 20 0 1.9192
15 12 RED CARPET Alright 20 17 3 1.8636
11 13 BOB SINCLAR Love Generation 19 19 0 1.4128
14 14 PETER LUTS What A Feeling 18 18 0 1.3115
13 15 MARY J. BLIGE Be Without You 17 18 -1 1.6563
18 16 CASSIE Me & U 17 15 2 1.6327
20 17 JESSICA SIMPSON A Public Affair 17 15 2 1.1372
23 18 FREEMASONS Love On My Mind (f/Amanda W..) 16 14 2 1.3262
16 19 REINA If I Close My Eyes 16 17 -1 1.2939
31 20 BOB SINCLAR Rock This Party (Everybody...) 15 11 4 1.1098
10 21 MARIO VAZQUEZ Gallery 15 20 -5 1.1895
27 22 CASCADA Everytime We Touch 14 13 1 1.3072
22 23 LUZ DIVINA You Shine On Me 14 14 0 0.7359
34 24 EVERMORE It's Too Late 14 9 5 1.077
21 25 DANIELLE BOLLINGER Kiss The Sky 13 14 -1 0.7413
28 26 CASCADA Miracle 13 13 0 0.6888
32 27 JANET JACKSON Call On Me (f/Nelly) 13 10 3 0.6172
25 28 PUSSYCAT DOLLS Don't Cha 12 14 -2 0.9387
33 29 MADONNA Sorry 11 10 1 0.9368
35 30 JOEY NEGRO Make A Move On Me 11 9 2 0.7866
30 31 SEAN PAUL Temperature 11 12 -1 1.249
38 32 RIHANNA SOS 11 8 3 1.1044
29 33 MARIAH CAREY Don't Forget About Us 10 12 -2 1.0031
19 34 KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You 10 15 -5 0.8344
35 NE-YO Sexy Love 10 0 10 0.7788
26 36 BEYONCE Check On It 9 13 -4 1.1093
40 37 KELLY CLARKSON Behind These Hazel Eyes 9 7 2 1.3176
24 38 JEANNIE ORTEGA Crowded (f/Papoose) 9 14 -5 0.4776
36 39 LIONEL RICHIE I Call It Love 9 9 0 0.9369
37 40 BEYONCE One Night Only 8 8 0 1.0633
44 41 MYNT How Did You Know? 6 4 2 0.6322
39 42 USHER Caught Up 6 8 -2 0.7515
94 43 SHAKIRA La Tortura (f/ Alejandro Sanz 5 1 4 0.2976
49 44 BLACK EYED PEAS Let's Get It Started 4 2 2 0.6118
45 45 NINA SKY Move Ya Body 4 4 0 0.1831
41 46 JONATHAN PETERS All This Time (f/S. L. Sharp) 4 7 -3 0.4557
55 47 LUCAS PRATA And She Said 4 2 2 0.408
42 48 MARIAH CAREY We Belong Together 3 6 -3 0.3137
47 49 RUPEE Tempted To Touch 3 3 0 0.1986
46 50 DESTINY'S CHILD Lose My Breath 2 3 -1 0.2082