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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 19, 2018 14:06:02 GMT -5
Anyone else like to think of this as Maddie and Tae's love song to each other? I don't really know whete you got that from this song, but that's a unique perspective.
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Post by jab820 on Nov 26, 2018 19:46:31 GMT -5
Worth noting that "Die From A Broken Heart" got an add this week and is also #23 on iTunes, the only non-single inside the top 40 besides a Stapleton song. "Friends Don't" is #113, for perspective.
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Post by tartanmayz on Nov 27, 2018 0:14:16 GMT -5
I would LOVE to see UMG jump ship on this and go with 'Die From A Broken Heart.' It's thriving from a sales standpoint, and that's only on XM airplay and word of mouth. It just seems to have so much more natural connection with fans than Friends Don't. But I'm probably wishing for too much since country labels prefer to run never ending, slow-as-molasses single pushes that don't generate much excitement.
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Post by jab820 on Nov 27, 2018 15:01:29 GMT -5
I would LOVE to see UMG jump ship on this and go with 'Die From A Broken Heart.' It's thriving from a sales standpoint, and that's only on XM airplay and word of mouth. It just seems to have so much more natural connection with fans than Friends Don't. But I'm probably wishing for too much since country labels prefer to run never ending, slow-as-molasses single pushes that don't generate much excitement. There's an ad in CA today promoting conversion for this song. One of the first ads for the song I've seen in a while. So, it looks like they are sticking right with it.
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Post by tartanmayz on Nov 27, 2018 15:12:13 GMT -5
There's an ad in CA today promoting conversion for this song. One of the first ads for the song I've seen in a while. So, it looks like they are sticking right with it. Where are you seeing that??? The 11/26 issue doesn't seem to have one.
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Post by jab820 on Nov 27, 2018 16:42:17 GMT -5
There's an ad in CA today promoting conversion for this song. One of the first ads for the song I've seen in a while. So, it looks like they are sticking right with it. Where are you seeing that??? The 11/26 issue doesn't seem to have one. It was in one of the daily emails sent this morning around 10am Pacific time.
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Post by tartanmayz on Nov 27, 2018 16:44:26 GMT -5
Ah, I don't get those. Well, I think they're crazy to not jump on clear momentum.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 27, 2018 18:02:51 GMT -5
Ah, I don't get those. Well, I think they're crazy to not jump on clear momentum. It’s free to sign up for Country Aircheck’s emails.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 27, 2018 19:12:32 GMT -5
It's really impressive to see "Die from a Broken Heart" selling so much better than this one, but it also is a song that isn't particularly radio-friendly, so just because it's moving the needle with consumers doesn't mean radio is going to jump on it. I think the sales indicate that it could have the potential to be huge, but it would still be a huge uphill climb to turn that one into a hit, so dropping "Friends Don't" on the cusp of Top 40 for that one may or may not be a good idea. I would personally love to see them go with that as a single next, but I also wouldn't suggest they release it anytime soon with the holiday slowdown approaching (a rough time for new singles to get going for unestablished acts, particularly females).
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 28, 2018 13:36:17 GMT -5
I think come the new year they should drop this and release "Die From a Broken Heart". Is it radio friendly? Hell no. But the sales are so great that I think radio would have more intrigue with it especially because the high sales have stayed consistent since released.
The label should figure out that something that is selling very well with not much radio airplay is a good thing to push to mainstream country radio and pushing it is an easier sell for radio as the already high sales would be boosted even further with country radio playing it.
"Friends Don't" has been out since May and hasn't even hit the Top 40 despite it almost being December, and has never sold that well at all. At this point it's just sitting around the chart not doing much and basically just taking up space (of course there's at least a dozen of those songs on the chart right now this implies too imo).
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Post by jab820 on Nov 28, 2018 16:10:48 GMT -5
I don't understand the conversation of "Die From A Broken Heart" being not radio-friendly. Sure, it's ballad-y, and by female artists. But it's catchy, the hook is damn good, and has a unique melody. I would say let "Friends Don't" hit the top 40, see if it picks up significantly, and (when) if it doesn't, drop it for "Die".
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 28, 2018 16:20:15 GMT -5
I don't understand the conversation of "Die From A Broken Heart" being not radio-friendly. Sure, it's ballad-y, and by female artists. But it's catchy, the hook is damn good, and has a unique melody. I would say let "Friends Don't" hit the top 40, see if it picks up significantly, and (when) if it doesn't, drop it for "Die". I think it's just because ballads for non established female artists are so hard to make hits unless it has OTV ("Burning House" and "Every Little Thing"). The only ballad sung by a female artist that I can think of in recent years that was a natural hit was "I Got The Boy" by Jana Kramer, and that took over 40 weeks to peak and only did so well due to high sales from the start. I definitely have been getting "I Got The Boy" vibes with "Die From a Broken Heart" since both are female ballads that had high sales when released, and coincidentally enough would be the second single for their sophomore album (presuming "Die From a Broken Heart" is a hit or does well enough to get the album out and "Friends Don't" is on said album).
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Nov 28, 2018 17:20:58 GMT -5
Considering Maddie & Tae took "Fly" to the top 10 in similarly bad climate for traditional-leaning slow songs by females, I'd say they should take the risk.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Nov 28, 2018 18:36:41 GMT -5
Considering Maddie & Tae took "Fly" to the top 10 in similarly bad climate for traditional-leaning slow songs by females, I'd say they should take the risk. That was coming off a #1 hit and a ton of hype though. Not saying "Die From a Broken Heart" can't be a hit, but the situation is different for it coming after "Friends Don't" which looks like it won't make the top 30 instead of "Girl in a Country Song"
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 28, 2018 21:49:37 GMT -5
Considering Maddie & Tae took "Fly" to the top 10 in similarly bad climate for traditional-leaning slow songs by females, I'd say they should take the risk. That was coming off a #1 hit and a ton of hype though. Not saying "Die From a Broken Heart" can't be a hit, but the situation is different for it coming after "Friends Don't" which looks like it won't make the top 30 instead of "Girl in a Country Song" This. The sales indicate it could be a 'big risk, big reward' type single for them, but it could just as easily flop because it's absolutely not in radio's wheelhouse and Maddie & Tae currently have no momentum at all. GIACS was a natural hit and that paved the way for "Fly" to do well as a follow-up, but then their momentum flamed out after poor callout for their third single and their extended break after "Sierra" flopped. I would love for it to be their next single and them hit big with it, but I'm definitely not going to be uber optimistic about it going over well at radio just because it sells well, because we've seen radio cares much more about their flawed callout research than sales.
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Post by raylatch98 on Dec 2, 2018 23:11:20 GMT -5
Good news: "Friends Don't" sets a new peak on Mediabase at #43, as it moves ever so closer to the Top 40.
Bad news: This song gained 7 spins this week and 54 points which is barely anything and I feel like the latest singles from Runaway June, Florida Georgia Line, and Luke Combs will easily pass the ladies next week.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Dec 3, 2018 22:37:09 GMT -5
"Die From a Broken Heart" and "Friends Don't" both debut on the Hot Country Songs chart this week. DFABH at #48 and FD at #50. Very impressive for DFABH!
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Post by raylatch98 on Dec 16, 2018 21:59:33 GMT -5
Good news: "Friends Don't" set a new peak this week on Mediabase, Maddie & Tae moves up 3 spots to #42 (Luke Combs, Jimmie Allen, and Maren Morris ho recurrent while Travis Denning falls below, but Florida Georgia Line moves ahead resulting in a +3).
The Bad news and rant incoming: This song lost its bullet this week, losing 4 spins and barely any audience gained. This song is nowhere now to be found on the sales chart on iTunes all genre and is now on Week 26 on Billboard as of tomorrow. "Friends Don't" is on Week 11 in terms of the Mediabase Top 50 as well.
"Friends Don't" went for adds around 30 weeks ago. A song should not take almost 8 months to hit the Top 40. That is just beyond annoying and stupid. What makes this even worst which gives the slight edge for me, over say "Doin Fine" by Lauren Alaina last year, is they have "Die From a Broken Heart" just standing there with a totally unprompted radio add a few weeks ago, sits at #202 all genre on iTunes as of this writing which means it is outselling the latest singles from Tim McGraw, Midland, Carrie Underwood, Keith Urban, Jordan Davis, Riley Green, Eli Young Band, and Michael Ray all of which are in the Top 30. Yet they aren't even tempted to push "Die From a Broken Heart" to radio as of right now.
I get that the song isn’t radio friendly, and a ballad. But there is such passion with that song and "Broken Heart" is resonating with fans a lot more than "Friends Don't, and hell "Die From a Broken Heart" getting an add when "Friends Don't" speaks too radio themselves being interested. Also you know making the Billboard Hot Country Songs Chart on your sales alone is very impressive.
Maybe I would get fired, but if I was a person deciding singles I would abandon a non selling snooze after nearly 8 months of pushing it in favor of a hot selling song.
"Die From a Broken Heart" is a huge risk, but there is a lot more upside in pushing that song than keeping with this, which at best this will get Top 40 probably not Top 30 and not achieve really anything more than what it has already done outside of a slightly higher peak number.
Rant over.
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Post by CoJoFan on Dec 17, 2018 16:41:35 GMT -5
The only other song to enter the top 40 on Billboard Country Airplay at #40.
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Post by matty005 on Dec 17, 2018 17:22:11 GMT -5
The only other song to enter the top 40 on Billboard Country Airplay at #40. What was the other one?
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Post by CoJoFan on Dec 17, 2018 17:25:40 GMT -5
The only other song to enter the top 40 on Billboard Country Airplay at #40. What was the other one? Brantley & Lindsay duet
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Post by raylatch98 on Dec 24, 2018 0:02:47 GMT -5
"Friends Don't" officially Top 40 on Mediabase moving up 3 spots to #39.
Like I said in the "Talk You Out of It" thread, this single as well as that one won't get Bob Kingsley Country Top 40 spins until January 5th and January 6th.
Good for them they got another Top 40 now on both charts.
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Post by Marv on Jan 16, 2019 11:45:11 GMT -5
I hope their label can stick with this wonderful song so that it can gain some more exposure, even if most of those come from being aired on CT40 until some more MDs develop more trust in its prospects and/or start going with their gut feelings on it.
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Post by aldo01 on Jan 17, 2019 9:39:56 GMT -5
acoustic video was released this morning:
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Post by tartanmayz on Jan 17, 2019 16:38:07 GMT -5
It's never going to be anything but shocking to me that they didn't push DFABH after its response. It just seems to be over-performing in areas that FD is under-performing.
I get that they wanna keep their promo schedule, but it's still confusing!
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Post by raylatch98 on Jan 17, 2019 18:10:16 GMT -5
It's never going to be anything but shocking to me that they didn't push DFABH after its response. It just seems to be over-performing in areas that FD is under-performing. I get that they wanna keep their promo schedule, but it's still confusing! Still over performing. "Die From a Broken Heart" is at #154 on iTunes all genre. I get where the label is coming from that it is a ballad and therefore a huge risk. But when a song is connecting this well, with hardly any radio airplay, that is a risk worth taking. "Friends Don't" is probably gonna die out in the 30s, maybe 20s if they really stick with it. But it is already at 30 weeks on Billboard and is one of those songs that is just taking up chart space at this point. I also feel like that random early radio add is indicative that country radio is interested in "Die From a Broken Heart" at least somewhat.
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Post by someguy on Jan 19, 2019 0:44:28 GMT -5
Yeah, it feels like it's time to let this go. A huge effort might make this a top 30, but I don't see what the point would be in promoting it that far.
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Post by lipe on Jan 19, 2019 8:16:44 GMT -5
It's never going to be anything but shocking to me that they didn't push DFABH after its response. It just seems to be over-performing in areas that FD is under-performing. I get that they wanna keep their promo schedule, but it's still confusing! I agree. Hope it doesn't hurt them on the future. And for me, what also will never be anything but shocking is how well DFABH is doing. It's so rare even for big mainstream artists to have a non-single selling that well on iTunes. It's been 3 months and it's still on the top200 all-genre, and it's on there for most of the time. It's crazy to me how it's holding up and it seems like it's just an organic response. I don't remember any other situation like this where a non-single overperforms the official single on iTunes for months, with no promo at all.
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Post by bigfan101 on Feb 5, 2019 7:50:23 GMT -5
Ughhhh, they are so talented. Love this LeeAnn cover.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 5, 2019 11:20:00 GMT -5
That cover is phenomenal. Those harmonies. Ugh.
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