Billboard Hot 100: 4/28/2018

[Golden Bluebird]

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Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/04/17
1. (=) BEBE REXHA - Meant To Be f/F.G.L. (197.800) (+1.379)
2. (=) ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY - The Middle (165.813) (+0.179)
3. (=) DRAKE - God's Plan (158.001) (+0.619)
4. (=) BRUNO MARS & CARDI B - Finesse (146.187) (-2.502)
5. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (132.707) (-1.494)
6. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Never Be The Same (122.772) (+1.269) ***
7. (=) THE WEEKND & KENDRICK LAMAR - Pray For Me (121.064) (+0.143)
8. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Whatever It Takes (103.957) (+1.436)
9. (=) MAX - Lights Down Low (98.116) (-0.903)
10. (=) DUA LIPA - New Rules (97.276) (-0.352)
11. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (85.157) (-0.481)
12. (=) G-EAZY & HALSEY - Him & I (77.208) (-0.733)
13. (=) MAROON 5 - Wait (77.104) (+0.226)
14. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (73.274) (-0.191)
15. (+1) KENDRICK LAMAR & SZA - All The Stars (73.259) (+0.069)
16. (+1) POST MALONE - Psycho f/Ty Dolla $ign (72.469) (+1.283)
17. (-2) NF - Let You Down (72.049) (-1.224)
18. (=) JORDAN DAVIS - Singles You Up (68.603) (-1.665)
19. (=) JASON ALDEAN - You Make It Easy (68.179) (+0.457)
20. (+1) BLOCBOY JB - Look Alive f/Drake (66.095) (+0.850)

Outside the Top 20:
22. (=) BAZZI - Mine (64.395) (+1.056)
24. (+1) SHAWN MENDES - In My Blood (61.284) (+1.219)
42. (+4) DRAKE - Nice For What (41.902) (+1.736)

[kanfad]

Is nice for what more radio friendly than gods plan?

[Harx]

I wonder how long can Drake occupy the top 2 spots on BB

[kcdawg13]

Apr 17, 2018 14:32:18 GMT -5 Harx said:

I wonder how long can Drake occupy the top 2 spots on BB

He just has to hold those 2 slots until the album drops in June and then he can keep the top two slots for another 3 months.

[fhas]

Apr 17, 2018 14:15:15 GMT -5 kanfad said:

Is nice for what more radio friendly than gods plan?

It seems like it is.

First week: Nice For What 31M audience impressions --- God's Plan 24M AI

[Golden Bluebird]

[Deleted]

Lil Pump having his highest debut?

[iHype.]

Apr 17, 2018 16:10:56 GMT -5 fhas said:

Apr 17, 2018 14:15:15 GMT -5 kanfad said:

Is nice for what more radio friendly than gods plan?

It seems like it is.

First week: Nice For What 31M audience impressions --- God's Plan 24M AI

I think that has more to do with the fact this is a #1 debut, following another #1 debut. They jumped on quick because his hype is insane. 

I don't think NFW will last as long on radio (nor go as far on Top 40) as God's Plan. The sample will make it burn quick.

[Golden Bluebird]

I actually quite like that new Lil Pump song. His flow is much better and the song has way more energy than "Gucci Gang".

[hot100predictions]

Ariana Grande has nearly 800k likes on her Instagram promo already for No Tears Left To Cry and she posted less than an hour ago. Ariana has left Twitter shook and is sending fans across the world by storm. Ariana is doing exactly what Taylor did to promote Look What You Made Me Do. Drake needs to say something wrong before Friday so that people will stop listening to his songs for a week and let Ariana have her week. Ariana is the hottest female artist out there right now and deserves her first #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. And what better way to do it on a ballad for the love of her attack victims. Ariana will likely receive hourly promo her first 24 hours from iHeartRadio on Friday which should obviously help with her opening week on airplay, expect a (for the first time in a long time) MAJOR OPENING WEEK ON SALES. We can only hope Ariana will somehow pass Drake as Nicki obviously struggled with, but even a top 5 on Spotify with 1.1-1.4M streams daily for a week would help debut her single for a top 3 debut.

[hot100predictions]

Oh and Apple Music streamers better support Ariana as well.

[Gary]

Now just need about 40 million Drake streamers to convert and then I think we may have an Ariana #1 debut

[Mayman]

Apr 17, 2018 20:10:32 GMT -5 hot100predictions said:

Ariana Grande has nearly 800k likes on her Instagram promo already for No Tears Left To Cry and she posted less than an hour ago. Ariana has left Twitter shook and is sending fans across the world by storm. Ariana is doing exactly what Taylor did to promote Look What You Made Me Do. Drake needs to say something wrong before Friday so that people will stop listening to his songs for a week and let Ariana have her week. Ariana is the hottest female artist out there right now and deserves her first #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. And what better way to do it on a ballad for the love of her attack victims. Ariana will likely receive hourly promo her first 24 hours from iHeartRadio on Friday which should obviously help with her opening week on airplay, expect a (for the first time in a long time) MAJOR OPENING WEEK ON SALES. We can only hope Ariana will somehow pass Drake as Nicki obviously struggled with, but even a top 5 on Spotify with 1.1-1.4M streams daily for a week would help debut her single for a top 3 debut.

She will probably have a deal across all Clear Channel radio stations as well. She needs to drop the music video the same day as well to get the 35-40mil+ she needs to debut at #1.

[renfield75]

Six songs in the top ten right now, and FOUR of the top 5, all debuted in the top ten. It seems like the immediacy of streaming is making it harder for songs to climb into the top ten as opposed to starting there, and then those songs hang around forever. The Hot 100 really is starting to turn into the BB200.

[smiley22]

Apr 17, 2018 20:10:32 GMT -5 hot100predictions said:

Ariana Grande has nearly 800k likes on her Instagram promo already for No Tears Left To Cry and she posted less than an hour ago. Ariana has left Twitter shook and is sending fans across the world by storm. Ariana is doing exactly what Taylor did to promote Look What You Made Me Do. Drake needs to say something wrong before Friday so that people will stop listening to his songs for a week and let Ariana have her week. Ariana is the hottest female artist out there right now and deserves her first #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. And what better way to do it on a ballad for the love of her attack victims. Ariana will likely receive hourly promo her first 24 hours from iHeartRadio on Friday which should obviously help with her opening week on airplay, expect a (for the first time in a long time) MAJOR OPENING WEEK ON SALES. We can only hope Ariana will somehow pass Drake as Nicki obviously struggled with, but even a top 5 on Spotify with 1.1-1.4M streams daily for a week would help debut her single for a top 3 debut.

Hottest female and vying for her 1st #1 don't go together. Sorry

[iHype.]

Apr 17, 2018 20:59:48 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Six songs in the top ten right now, and FOUR of the top 5, all debuted in the top ten. It seems like the immediacy of streaming is making it harder for songs to climb into the top ten as opposed to starting there, and then those songs hang around forever. The Hot 100 really is starting to turn into the BB200.

Apr 16, 2018 22:22:46 GMT -5 iHype. said:

I said this in another thread a month ago, but with streaming I think the whole "#1 debut" achievement will water down. 

Down the line I think most #1 hits will start at #1. It makes sense as streaming has allowed the entire public to access music quicker than ever before, and for a song to literally become the most popular overnight. Technological advancement. 

Shape of You, Perfect, God's Plan, Nice for What, Look What You Made Me Do, and I'm the One all debuted #1 (or went directly to #1 following a new remix) the past year. And Humble along with Rockstar debuted #2. 

Perhaps we could be seeing similar to what happened to Billboard 200 after Soundscan. (Most #1 albums debut #1 and the #1 debut's either stick or drop like a rock.) Maybe labels will start treating singles like album campaigns where they focus dominantly on the debut week -- late era singles start commonly getting huge radio premieres/deals, superstar remixes, performances, etc during first week to take off (Finesse Remix, Perfect Remix).

I really do think next decade we may see the Hot 100 really be redefined.

Also I'm thinking if Billboard is going to eventually only allow singles to chart. At one point when streaming monopolizes the chart (even more) anytime someone huge releases an album they'll have almost the entire Top 20.

I love streaming, but when millions of fans consume an album theoretically that should count for just Billboard 200, and the entire album shouldn't chart again on Hot 100.

[rimetm]

Call Out My Name and I Like It wouldn’t be on the charts if that were the case, and they were one of the 10 biggest of their given weeks, so no, that rule would be bad.

[iHype.]

Apr 17, 2018 21:41:58 GMT -5 rimetm said:

Call Out My Name and I Like It wouldn’t be on the charts if that were the case, and they were one of the 10 biggest of their given weeks, so no, that rule would be bad.

Yeah, the major thing that came to my mind if they went to allowing only singles to chart: "but what about the non-singles that go top 10 during album release week? They're hugely popular clearly. And if they are released as singles later on they'd have a misleading peak if they never got as big as when they were non-singles" 


However I could still understand the rule. Why? If they want to measure the biggest singles, then the chart peak as a single would reflect that. How big it was as a single. Songs like Drake's "Portland" and any album tracks he'll launch into top 10 this year were huge in the essence of being the most popular cuts when the album was being consumed. However they never became hits on their own merit (as in staying power, any substantial radio play, etc). 

But even then there's some examples like Kendrick's "DNA." which went top 5 as an album track, and still til this day was never released as a single but had a nice chart run and made the year-end. So even then there's still room for outliers that aren't measured accurately with an official singles only rule.

However I think it'll definitely be a huge discussion in coming years when big albums on streaming just keep launching a handful of songs at the top for a week or two, then they freefall. 

[Gary]

Then you would have to define what a single is.

Back in the old days that was easy - anything released to a store

Now with streaming and downloading at one song at a time, everything is a single of some sort

[badrobot]

I suppose you could do a chart that required that a song be charting on all the component charts. You’d probably want to expand those to top 100s though.

Honestly though all of these approaches are arbitrary (including the current hot 100 formula). There will never be a perfect formula.

[iHype.]

Apr 17, 2018 21:54:12 GMT -5 Gary said:

Then you would have to define what a single is.

Back in the old days that was easy - anything released to a store

Now with streaming and downloading at one song at a time, everything is a single of some sort

Well the whole purpose of the 1998 rules was because what constituted as a single didn't make sense any longer. If someone sent a song to radio, and it spent 17 weeks at #1 on radio (cough Don't Speak cough) then it was for promotion purposes a single. The song not being available in stores didn't make it an album track to majority -- especially when they also had music videos, were nominated in Single categories at GRAMMYs, performed on TV, etc. 

When they amended the Hot 100 for 'tracks' it was more for radio singles not in stores to chart rather than actual album tracks. 

I absolutely hate the UK charts (horrendous), but they do have a rule where a label chooses 3 singles for an artist to chart. After a situation where Ed Sheeran had the entire top 10 because his album had huge streams. 

I love streaming and I think the Hot 100 is more accurate than ever, but I definitely think there's gonna be incoming dilemmas when albums start hogging the upper positions on Hot 100 because people are listening to albums on repeat. You have to find a way to separate the success of an album and its songs individually (which is admittedly going to be pretty hard to do with streaming). 

[Gary]

Apr 17, 2018 22:06:07 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Apr 17, 2018 21:54:12 GMT -5 Gary said:

Then you would have to define what a single is.

Back in the old days that was easy - anything released to a store

Now with streaming and downloading at one song at a time, everything is a single of some sort

Well the whole purpose of the 1998 rules was because what constituted as a single didn't make sense any longer. If someone sent a song to radio, and it spent 17 weeks at #1 on radio (cough Don't Speak cough) then it was for promotion purposes a single. The song not being available in stores didn't make it an album track to majority -- especially when they also had music videos, were nominated in Single categories at GRAMMYs, performed on TV, etc. 

When they amended the Hot 100 for 'tracks' it was more for radio singles not in stores to chart rather than actual album tracks. 

I absolutely hate the UK charts (horrendous), but they do have a rule where a label chooses 3 singles for an artist to chart. After a situation where Ed Sheeran had the entire top 10 because his album had huge streams. 

I love streaming and I think the Hot 100 is more accurate than ever, but I definitely think there's gonna be incoming dilemmas when albums start hogging the upper positions on Hot 100 because people are listening to albums on repeat. You have to find a way to separate the success of an album and its songs individually (which is admittedly going to be pretty hard to do with streaming). 

The whole purpose was to allow songs to chart.  Even the title of the chart changed.  The 11-28-98 chart was called "Hot 100 Singles" with the caption that it was tracking "retail and rack singles".    The 12-05-1998 chart was simply called "Hot 100" with the caption that it was tracking "the most popular singles and tracks"

In 1998 lingo "Don't Speak" was a "track" not a "single"

[iHype.]

Apr 17, 2018 22:19:54 GMT -5 Gary said:

Apr 17, 2018 22:06:07 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Well the whole purpose of the 1998 rules was because what constituted as a single didn't make sense any longer. If someone sent a song to radio, and it spent 17 weeks at #1 on radio (cough Don't Speak cough) then it was for promotion purposes a single. The song not being available in stores didn't make it an album track to majority -- especially when they also had music videos, were nominated in Single categories at GRAMMYs, performed on TV, etc. 

When they amended the Hot 100 for 'tracks' it was more for radio singles not in stores to chart rather than actual album tracks. 

I absolutely hate the UK charts (horrendous), but they do have a rule where a label chooses 3 singles for an artist to chart. After a situation where Ed Sheeran had the entire top 10 because his album had huge streams. 

I love streaming and I think the Hot 100 is more accurate than ever, but I definitely think there's gonna be incoming dilemmas when albums start hogging the upper positions on Hot 100 because people are listening to albums on repeat. You have to find a way to separate the success of an album and its songs individually (which is admittedly going to be pretty hard to do with streaming). 

The whole purpose was to allow songs to chart.  Even the title of the chart changed.  The 11-28-98 chart was called "Hot 100 Singles" with the caption that it was tracking "retail and rack singles".    The 12-05-1998 chart was simply called "Hot 100" with the caption that it was tracking "the most popular singles and tracks"

In 1998 lingo "Don't Speak" was a "track" not a "single"

I think a song being sent to radio these days makes it a single. It's hard to think of a single that isn't sent to radio. So I guess that could be what constitutes as a single. Or as mentioned the UK way, where labels tell the chart company what's a single. 

Orrr maybe when even more of the public uses streaming services by next decade, entire albums will no longer monopolize upon release. Who knows... interesting to think about

[CF15]

Apr 17, 2018 19:05:02 GMT -5 @statemusix said:

Lil Pump having his highest debut?

At least it is estimated to only be #37. I'm fine, as long as it isn't top ten.

[monkeydluffy]

Apr 17, 2018 22:19:54 GMT -5 Gary said:

Apr 17, 2018 22:06:07 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Well the whole purpose of the 1998 rules was because what constituted as a single didn't make sense any longer. If someone sent a song to radio, and it spent 17 weeks at #1 on radio (cough Don't Speak cough) then it was for promotion purposes a single. The song not being available in stores didn't make it an album track to majority -- especially when they also had music videos, were nominated in Single categories at GRAMMYs, performed on TV, etc. 

When they amended the Hot 100 for 'tracks' it was more for radio singles not in stores to chart rather than actual album tracks. 

I absolutely hate the UK charts (horrendous), but they do have a rule where a label chooses 3 singles for an artist to chart. After a situation where Ed Sheeran had the entire top 10 because his album had huge streams. 

I love streaming and I think the Hot 100 is more accurate than ever, but I definitely think there's gonna be incoming dilemmas when albums start hogging the upper positions on Hot 100 because people are listening to albums on repeat. You have to find a way to separate the success of an album and its songs individually (which is admittedly going to be pretty hard to do with streaming). 

The whole purpose was to allow songs to chart.  Even the title of the chart changed.  The 11-28-98 chart was called "Hot 100 Singles" with the caption that it was tracking "retail and rack singles".    The 12-05-1998 chart was simply called "Hot 100" with the caption that it was tracking "the most popular singles and tracks"

In 1998 lingo "Don't Speak" was a "track" not a "single"

Really hope it doesn’t go back to only singles though. “Don’t Speak” is only one of several songs to not be huge successes on the charts because of that rule. The Fugees “Killing Me Softly” and Sugar Ray’s “Fly” also suffered from this rule, and would’ve been Billboard Hot 100 Top 10 songs has the rule not existed (most likely).

[renaboss]

The Hot 100 has changed its rules overtime again and again to fit whatever current era of music it was catering to, it's only natural that it should keep doing that, and I for one would not be too opposed to taking it back to the "singles" rule. It makes a lot of sense if you ask me.

Heck, I feel inclined to even start campaigning for that on social media. xD

[hot100predictions]

Also, if it were 2015, I think Ariana would be able to accomplishe #1 as streaming wouldn't have been such a big deal.

[Enigma.]

Apr 17, 2018 14:51:25 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Apr 17, 2018 14:32:18 GMT -5 Harx said:

I wonder how long can Drake occupy the top 2 spots on BB

He just has to hold those 2 slots until the album drops in June and then he can keep the top two slots for another 3 months.

"Just" that's like two months LOL God's Plan won't be #2 for that long, but of course another song by Drake might take its place.

YESS at Nicki storming into top 40!

[Golden Bluebird]

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Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/04/18
1. (=) BEBE REXHA - Meant To Be f/F.G.L. (198.073) (+0.273)
2. (=) ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY - The Middle (166.213) (+0.400)
3. (=) DRAKE - God's Plan (160.064) (+2.063) ***
4. (=) BRUNO MARS & CARDI B - Finesse (142.798) (-3.389)
5. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (132.038) (-0.669)
6. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Never Be The Same (124.680) (+1.908)
7. (=) THE WEEKND & KENDRICK LAMAR - Pray For Me (121.638) (+0.574)
8. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Whatever It Takes (104.794) (+0.837)
9. (+1) DUA LIPA - New Rules (97.430) (+0.154)
10. (-1) MAX - Lights Down Low (97.161) (-0.955)
11. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (83.839) (-1.318)
12. (+1) MAROON 5 - Wait (77.861) (+0.757)
13. (-1) G-EAZY & HALSEY - Him & I (75.897) (-1.311)
14. (+2) POST MALONE - Psycho f/Ty Dolla $ign (73.984) (+1.515)
15. (=) KENDRICK LAMAR & SZA - All The Stars (73.187) (-0.072)
16. (-2) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (72.942) (-0.332)
17. (=) NF - Let You Down (71.056) (-0.993)
18. (+1) JASON ALDEAN - You Make It Easy (68.833) (+0.654)
19. (+1) BLOCBOY JB - Look Alive f/Drake (67.143) (+1.048)
20. (-2) JORDAN DAVIS - Singles You Up (66.406) (-2.197)

Outside the Top 20:
35. (+7) DRAKE - Nice For What (47.675) (+5.773) ***

[rainie]

IMO if they’re gonna try to limit album bombs, a good solution would be to set a limit on how many songs can debut in a given week. I’d say only three songs from a given album can enter in a given week, or any songs that would enter top 25 or higher. So for example, more then 3 of Beyonce’s Lemonade tracks could enter from the album bomb since they really were that huge that given week — however it would prevent B list artists crowding up the bottom half of the charts with album cuts.