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Post by austin on Nov 15, 2018 21:03:55 GMT -5
Need to go back to Sunday’s and stop trying to compete with Survivor. They also need more female nominees or Taylor to come back to country. Haven't the CMAs always been on Wednesdays? Has it? I could have sworn it was on Sunday and Tuesday. But there are so many awards shows it’s hard to keep track.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 15, 2018 22:06:56 GMT -5
Keith is incredible, people here are just insane! His live show, as some have stated, is just hands down one of the best in the genre! His latest CD is incredible as well.Was SHOCKED he won though after losing Album and Male vocalist. How do you lose lower end awards and win the top tier? It's like losing your Genre catergories at the grammys and winning AOTY. lol I mean, I get how it happens but it just seems so rare and unlikely. It appears that you have not actually listened to his new cd. If you had, you would know that the only thing Keith deserves after forcing the world to endure this nonsense is a timeout. And maybe a referral to the office. But at least we can both agree that we are shocked that he won EOTY!
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Nov 15, 2018 22:35:33 GMT -5
I like Keith and it’s wonderful that he got EOTY, but his super-fans on Pulse always seem to blindly follow and defend him (often at the expense of other posters). It gets annoying after a while...
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 15, 2018 22:49:28 GMT -5
I like Keith and it’s wonderful that he got EOTY, but his super-fans on Pulse always seem to blindly follow and defend him (often at the expense of other posters). It gets annoying after a while... This, 100%! Keith is an incredible person, who has spent the majority of my life delivering some of the best music in the genre! But people get WAY carried away and unrealistic about the quality of his recent music... But it is super bizarre to me that THIS is the year he wins... After like 15 years of being snubbed over and over and over again, why does he win THIS year, while in the middle of basically one of the least-successful years of his entire career? I can't help but wonder if it is basically a sympathy win before they send him on his way to go sit out in the pasture and shine King George's boots for the rest of his life...
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 15, 2018 22:59:23 GMT -5
I like Keith and it’s wonderful that he got EOTY, but his super-fans on Pulse always seem to blindly follow and defend him (often at the expense of other posters). It gets annoying after a while... I've been saying this forever.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 15, 2018 23:05:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I was sincerely hoping Maren would get it this year; she truly deserved it. No woman had a bigger year than her this last year, and I do think that, should they continue to work Carrie & the CP album sufficiently with singles, TV spots, and other media exposure, she’ll wind up taking the award next year, too. Basically the entire CP album thus far falls into the 2019 eligibility period (barring the lead), and the tour will be running from the final part of the period all the way up to the CMAs itself, giving plenty of room for her and her team to get votes. If last night really was an indication of anything, it’s that I think we will see Carrie Underwood win EOTY next year. Keep in mind that only the first part of Carrie's tour next year falls in the CMA eligibility period..on the other hand...they don't always care Correct, that’s what I had mentioned. What’s going to be working in her favor is the tour starting during the eligibility period, and then running through the entire voting period, all the way up to the CMAs.
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Post by DJ General on Nov 16, 2018 10:31:13 GMT -5
Keith is incredible, people here are just insane! His live show, as some have stated, is just hands down one of the best in the genre! His latest CD is incredible as well.Was SHOCKED he won though after losing Album and Male vocalist. How do you lose lower end awards and win the top tier? It's like losing your Genre catergories at the grammys and winning AOTY. lol I mean, I get how it happens but it just seems so rare and unlikely. It appears that you have not actually listened to his new cd. If you had, you would know that the only thing Keith deserves after forcing the world to endure this nonsense is a timeout. And maybe a referral to the office. But at least we can both agree that we are shocked that he won EOTY! I have listened. I purchased it, and I love it. I don't need him to make the same sounded song over and over like other country acts
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Post by northwestfan on Nov 16, 2018 15:33:17 GMT -5
Here I come as another "super fan" of Keith's to give my 2 cents for whatever it's worth. Yeah, everyone is surprised and shocked that he won this award for the 2nd time after being nominated for several years. Yeah, it seems odd he gets it after his current album is underperforming his last one. Well, the only conclusion I can come up with is that he got this award because the voters agree that his concerts are quite simply OUTSTANDING! If you haven't been to one, you obviously don't understand. I could on and on about his enthusiasm, sincerity, musicianship and vocals, but I am very happy for him and I will continue to be a fan even as he goes out to pasture! Lol!
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Post by matty005 on Nov 16, 2018 16:27:23 GMT -5
Here I come as another "super fan" of Keith's to give my 2 cents for whatever it's worth. Yeah, everyone is surprised and shocked that he won this award for the 2nd time after being nominated for several years. Yeah, it seems odd he gets it after his current album is underperforming his last one. Well, the only conclusion I can come up with is that he got this award because the voters agree that his concerts are quite simply OUTSTANDING! If you haven't been to one, you obviously don't understand. I could on and on about his enthusiasm, sincerity, musicianship and vocals, but I am very happy for him and I will continue to be a fan even as he goes out to pasture! Lol! But haven’t his concerts always been outstanding? That theory doesn’t work unless his concerts in the past 12 months improved or something. My theory is there is no way to judge these awards (especially EOTY). And in the end, they are all pretty much meaningless.
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Post by collinkottke on Nov 16, 2018 16:32:57 GMT -5
Just going to throw this out there, I have seen every nominee for Entertainer in concert and all of them within at least once with the last two years. Luke, Kenny, Jason, Chris and Keith are all outstanding in their own way live. Absolutely outstanding. Haven't walked away from any of their concerts disappointed.
Unless I vote unlike anyone else, I personally try to take in tour (how they are live and if they were on tour during the eligibility period), releases (what did they release as an album/singles during the eligibility period) and promoting country music/being a good promoter of country music (for example: TV appearances, social media presence, special projects, charitable efforts).
I say all of that to say this, I would be greatly disappointed if people are voting for Entertainer purely on live concert performances because most the time, especially this year, that category is going to be mainly a wash between the nominees. I don't doubt that some voters think that Keith has the best stage show, but I hope that isn't purely the only thing that they are considering.
Personally, I am very disappointed in Keith's latest album, so I didn't vote for him because I preferred albums from the other nominees more. Plus, honestly I enjoyed Luke, Kenny and Chris more in concert, too, with Jason and Keith being neck-and-neck. That's just me and possibly the same view of some disappointed to see Keith win this year.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 16, 2018 16:45:32 GMT -5
Being 100%, Maren Morris should've gotten an EOTY nomination this year.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 16, 2018 17:16:38 GMT -5
Being 100%, Maren Morris should've gotten an EOTY nomination this year. I mean who do you remove though? Keith Urban won. Luke Bryan and Jason Aldean both saw very strong years. Chris Stapleton has more critical acclaim and about equal country radio support and better sales as Maren Morris. Finally, Kenny Chesney is a touring heavyweight and saw a big year with the success with "Get Along" and a well recieved album. I wonder if the CMA don't count stuff like "The Middle" and the collaboration with Niall Horan and looks just inside the confides of country music hence no Entertainer of the Year.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 16, 2018 17:26:19 GMT -5
Being 100%, Maren Morris should've gotten an EOTY nomination this year. I mean who do you remove though? Keith Urban won. Luke Bryan and Jason Aldean both saw very strong years. Chris Stapleton has more critical acclaim and about equal country radio support and better sales as Maren Morris. Finally, Kenny Chesney is a touring heavyweight and saw a big year with the success with "Get Along" and a well recieved album. I wonder if the CMA don't count stuff like "The Middle" and the collaboration with Niall Horan and looks just inside the confides of country music hence no Entertainer of the Year. Wondering if the CMA discounted the literal reasons why she would be considered for the award makes no sense. Remove any of the men. Really don't care which one. They won't hurt and it wouldn't be an injustice to any of 'em; they'll all land back in the category in the future anyways. Just because Maren doesn't headline stadiums doesn't diminish the last year that she's had. Musically, she made more of an impact than any of those 5 guys did last year with just "The Middle" alone.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 16, 2018 17:39:17 GMT -5
I mean who do you remove though? Keith Urban won. Luke Bryan and Jason Aldean both saw very strong years. Chris Stapleton has more critical acclaim and about equal country radio support and better sales as Maren Morris. Finally, Kenny Chesney is a touring heavyweight and saw a big year with the success with "Get Along" and a well recieved album. I wonder if the CMA don't count stuff like "The Middle" and the collaboration with Niall Horan and looks just inside the confides of country music hence no Entertainer of the Year. Wondering if the CMA discounted the literal reasons why she would be considered for the award makes no sense. Remove any of the men. Really don't care which one. They won't hurt and it wouldn't be an injustice to any of 'em; they'll all land back in the category in the future anyways. Just because Maren doesn't headline stadiums doesn't diminish the last year that she's had. Musically, she made more of an impact than any of those 5 guys did last year with just "The Middle" alone. I just think the people who decided who to nominate looked at what each artist did in country music exclusively. I mean it makes sense since it is a country award show so they probably looked at what each artist did in the genre itself.
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Post by thewp on Nov 16, 2018 18:21:50 GMT -5
I mean who do you remove though? Keith Urban won. Luke Bryan and Jason Aldean both saw very strong years. Chris Stapleton has more critical acclaim and about equal country radio support and better sales as Maren Morris. Finally, Kenny Chesney is a touring heavyweight and saw a big year with the success with "Get Along" and a well recieved album. I wonder if the CMA don't count stuff like "The Middle" and the collaboration with Niall Horan and looks just inside the confides of country music hence no Entertainer of the Year. Wondering if the CMA discounted the literal reasons why she would be considered for the award makes no sense. Remove any of the men. Really don't care which one. They won't hurt and it wouldn't be an injustice to any of 'em; they'll all land back in the category in the future anyways. Just because Maren doesn't headline stadiums doesn't diminish the last year that she's had. Musically, she made more of an impact than any of those 5 guys did last year with just "The Middle" alone. Well, it wasn’t enough for her to win FV (which I thought she deserved) , so I wouldn’t say it was enough for an Eoty nom. They do seem to focus on touring quite heavily -at least for a nom. They’ve excluded Blake for years and he’s a better ambassador than all of them, but tours 30 dates or so a year.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 16, 2018 18:44:16 GMT -5
Wondering if the CMA discounted the literal reasons why she would be considered for the award makes no sense. Remove any of the men. Really don't care which one. They won't hurt and it wouldn't be an injustice to any of 'em; they'll all land back in the category in the future anyways. Just because Maren doesn't headline stadiums doesn't diminish the last year that she's had. Musically, she made more of an impact than any of those 5 guys did last year with just "The Middle" alone. Well, it wasn’t enough for her to win FV (which I thought she deserved) , so I wouldn’t say it was enough for an Eoty nom. They do seem to focus on touring quite heavily -at least for a nom. They’ve excluded Blake for years and he’s a better ambassador than all of them, but tours 30 dates or so a year. Maren toured all year. Hero Tour, 15 in a 30 Tour, Flicker World Tour, etc.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 16, 2018 20:56:00 GMT -5
Well, it wasn’t enough for her to win FV (which I thought she deserved) , so I wouldn’t say it was enough for an Eoty nom. They do seem to focus on touring quite heavily -at least for a nom. They’ve excluded Blake for years and he’s a better ambassador than all of them, but tours 30 dates or so a year. Maren toured all year. Hero Tour, 15 in a 30 Tour, Flicker World Tour, etc. Wasn't Maren Morris a supporting act for the latter two tours? If anything I feel like being a supporting act or the non headliner doesn't help your case with Entertainer of The Year and instead works against you. I would love if someone can do a number, money, revenue, or whatever terminology it is, comparison to the Hero Tour, and the tours that the other nominees were on as well during the eligibility period. Because I don't think Maren Morris was that close to the other nominees in terms of the amount of money made during her own tour.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 21:09:29 GMT -5
Glad that Slaycey Musgraves took home the AOTY award! That was very well-deserved.
Also, fun fact: the brass band that performed with Thomas Rhett is from a high school not far from where I live, so I know a lot of people in that band. It was really cool hearing about them being able to perform there because it seems like quite an honor.
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Post by stanches2318 on Nov 16, 2018 21:27:57 GMT -5
Maren toured all year. Hero Tour, 15 in a 30 Tour, Flicker World Tour, etc. Wasn't Maren Morris a supporting act for the latter two tours? If anything I feel like being a supporting act or the non headliner doesn't help your case with Entertainer of The Year and instead works against you. I would love if someone can do a number, money, revenue, or whatever terminology it is, comparison to the Hero Tour, and the tours that the other nominees were on as well during the eligibility period. Because I don't think Maren Morris was that close to the other nominees in terms of the amount of money made during her own tour. If they were going by tours alone than Garth would've won it every year. Maybe next year Carrie Underwood might get nominated and possibly win it after her hyped tour. That would be interesting to see happen. That's probably something everyone would love to see.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 16, 2018 21:32:46 GMT -5
Wasn't Maren Morris a supporting act for the latter two tours? If anything I feel like being a supporting act or the non headliner doesn't help your case with Entertainer of The Year and instead works against you. I would love if someone can do a number, money, revenue, or whatever terminology it is, comparison to the Hero Tour, and the tours that the other nominees were on as well during the eligibility period. Because I don't think Maren Morris was that close to the other nominees in terms of the amount of money made during her own tour. If they were going by tours alone than Garth would've won it every year. Maybe next year Carrie Underwood might get nominated and possibly win it after her hyped tour. That would be interesting to see happen. That's probably something everyone would love to see. I wasn't trying to imply they should go by tour alone, just that Maren Morris own tour probably doesn't hold weight to the others in addition to her ok radio prescence, and decent but unspectacular sales (I'm removing "The Middle" since it was a pop release).
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 16, 2018 22:58:52 GMT -5
Removing “The Middle” is nonsensical. [2]
And supporting or otherwise, she toured heavily on top of consistent radio success, including making major crossover moves.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 16, 2018 23:08:58 GMT -5
Removing “The Middle” is nonsensical. [2] And supporting or otherwise, she toured heavily on top of consistent radio success, including making major crossover moves. All I'm trying to do is justify or at least come to a logical conclusion to why the CMAs didn't nominate her for Entertainer of the Year and I think the root of it is them not putting a lot of weight in crossover success. I mean by this same logic, shouldn't Florida Georgia Line also have gotten an Entertainer of the Year nomination? They toured, had a bigger crossover hit, was all over radio and sold more than Maren Morris. Yet they didn't get nominated for Entertainer of the Year. I just don't think the CMA Awards care too much about crossover success or don't factor it as heavily. I think they should include it to a higher degree but I doubt anything is going to change their minds unless there is a huge uproar which I don't think there is. It's clear we aren't going to see eye to eye on this subject. I get where you're coming from, I just don't agree with it.
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 20, 2018 16:50:49 GMT -5
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