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Post by recordyear on Feb 18, 2019 13:04:24 GMT -5
Album is projected to do 30-35k sales and 45-50k SPS first week.
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Post by raylatch98 on Feb 18, 2019 13:07:00 GMT -5
Album is projected to do 30-35k sales and 45-50k SPS first week. I know album sales are in general down. But that feels still somewhat low for Florida Georgia Line, especially given how big 2018 was for them. I was expecting 65 to 70k minimum, just due to how recognizable their name is.
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Feb 18, 2019 13:12:06 GMT -5
Album is projected to do 30-35k sales and 45-50k SPS first week. That's a huge drop from Dig Your Roots, but not unexpected. It's been a while since "Simple" hit the top and TYOOI has been floundering for months, and they have probably lost a lot of their pop fans who bought their first few albums. What's happening to them is really similar to what happened to Lady A a few years ago (they went from 168k first week of Golden to 74k for 747).
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Post by countryisking on Feb 18, 2019 13:18:59 GMT -5
That is a huge drop for them. I'm not even sure it can be directly attributable to a general drop in sales when the SPS numbers are down too. This is not even double what Cody Johnson got after his first mainstream radio hit and just barely more than what Kacey Musgraves got after her Grammy win.
As I've said before, they've just been too all over the place with their sounds lately. Say what you want about bro-country, but that's when they were at their best. Not to mention the fact that this current single sucks.
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Post by phil1996 on Feb 18, 2019 16:45:28 GMT -5
Holy smokes @ those sales. Is this the beginning of the end for FGL? That’s about what Dustin Lynch and Kip Moore sell.
Is it possible the skits drove some people away?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 18, 2019 16:50:18 GMT -5
Personally I think it mostly sold poorly because the timing of its release made no sense. It should've dropped when "Simple" was smashing, and if it wasn't ready then and needed to be delayed, then they needed it to drop when the second single was hitting hard and... "Talk You Out of It" has not made a big splash for them. It's sold decently despite a slow crawl at radio, but its airplay levels are currently way lower than what they usually have when a new album drops. It just feels like this album release was a quiet one for them, like it didn't come out at the right time and there's been less promo surrounding it. I'm sure they'll be fine because even with that drop-off, they're still selling debuting with better numbers than a majority of country acts.
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Post by Naos on Feb 18, 2019 17:39:11 GMT -5
Personally I think it mostly sold poorly because the timing of its release made no sense. It should've dropped when "Simple" was smashing, and if it wasn't ready then and needed to be delayed, then they needed it to drop when the second single was hitting hard and... "Talk You Out of It" has not made a big splash for them. It's sold decently despite a slow crawl at radio, but its airplay levels are currently way lower than what they usually have when a new album drops. It just feels like this album release was a quiet one for them, like it didn't come out at the right time and there's been less promo surrounding it. I'm sure they'll be fine because even with that drop-off, they're still selling debuting with better numbers than a majority of country acts. It's kinda sad they might get beaten out by a Drake re-released EP though, since that's estimated to have around the same amount of units.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 18, 2019 17:41:52 GMT -5
Personally I think it mostly sold poorly because the timing of its release made no sense. It should've dropped when "Simple" was smashing, and if it wasn't ready then and needed to be delayed, then they needed it to drop when the second single was hitting hard and... "Talk You Out of It" has not made a big splash for them. It's sold decently despite a slow crawl at radio, but its airplay levels are currently way lower than what they usually have when a new album drops. It just feels like this album release was a quiet one for them, like it didn't come out at the right time and there's been less promo surrounding it. I'm sure they'll be fine because even with that drop-off, they're still selling debuting with better numbers than a majority of country acts. It's kinda sad they might get beaten out by a Drake re-released EP though, since that's estimated to have around the same amount of units. Not really. Drake is red hot. Florida Georgia Line, not so much.
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Post by recordyear on Feb 18, 2019 18:09:23 GMT -5
And the tour will be on sale on March. Kinda reminds me of their label mate Brett Young in terms of rush. However, the label is probably eyeing for that #1 debut on country album chart only and since sales and streaming of songs before album release can be used for album certification anyway, the SPS during first week doesn't matter too much because this album will be certified gold at least. And phil1996 I saw what you did there
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Post by dm2081 on Feb 18, 2019 22:55:46 GMT -5
Album sales are definitely low, but this also has been one of the most poorly timed album releases I've seen from an A-list country act. "Simple" and "Meant To Be" both were giant hits last year, so the mistake was not having the album ready to go end of summer or early fall. The album should have been delayed until this one was nearing the top 10 honestly, because a lot of people probably aren't even aware yet that FGL have a new song at radio. There definitely is a lack of buzz this era it seems, and I think the pre-release songs weren't good enough to make up for the lack of presence at radio right at this very moment.
After a few days of listening to the album, I have to say that "Y'all Boys" is a smash hit waiting. I could easily see it being this summer's version of "Up Down", just the ultimate feel good party anthem. They need to release that next.
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Post by trustypepper on Feb 19, 2019 7:44:16 GMT -5
Finally heard this song in full and it’s got to be their worst single in years, if not their entire career.
With that being said, I’m definitely excited to give the album a listen because these guys are still one of my favorite country acts.
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Post by bamaefule on Feb 19, 2019 11:15:14 GMT -5
Album sales are definitely low, but this also has been one of the most poorly timed album releases I've seen from an A-list country act. "Simple" and "Meant To Be" both were giant hits last year, so the mistake was not having the album ready to go end of summer or early fall. The album should have been delayed until this one was nearing the top 10 honestly, because a lot of people probably aren't even aware yet that FGL have a new song at radio. There definitely is a lack of buzz this era it seems, and I think the pre-release songs weren't good enough to make up for the lack of presence at radio right at this very moment. After a few days of listening to the album, I have to say that "Y'all Boys" is a smash hit waiting. I could easily see it being this summer's version of "Up Down", just the ultimate feel good party anthem. They need to release that next. Great post. Their timing was way off. Feel like their label might make the same mistake with Jake Owen’s new album. With that said, “Y’all Boys” and the title track are the best single ready tracks on the album so they should be able to bounce back.
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Post by Wackadoodle on Feb 19, 2019 11:46:40 GMT -5
The only song left on the album that sounds like a hit to me is "People Are Different." I think that one will be pretty big as the next single and leave FGL with enough momentum to get a fourth single up the charts after that, but otherwise this could be a quiet and short album era. Maybe they can release a deluxe edition with one or two more radio hits in about a year, or get on another pop song and release that to radio.
I'm still not sure whether I see this flaming out in the teens like "Never Comin' Down" or having a slow and steady climb into the top 10. I haven't seen any research yet but this is by far their slowest climbing single ever. I figured the slow start last year was likely due to recurrent airplay for Meant to Be, Up Down and Simple, but if that were the case, shouldn't this have started taking off a bit more over the past few weeks?
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Post by Troublemaker on Feb 20, 2019 19:11:31 GMT -5
These guys are trying to increase sales. They just sent an email for a flash sale to include digital album and a tee shirt for just $20. The email ends with “Act fast, you have less than 48 hours left!“
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Post by Kat5Kind on Feb 21, 2019 2:03:44 GMT -5
I want Y’all Boys, People Are Different and (yeah I know this won’t happen) Colorado. (I also quite like Blessings.)
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Post by Jrod82 on Feb 21, 2019 9:24:04 GMT -5
Listening to the album now and is "Can't Say I Ain't Country" the first song Brian has a lead part in? I don't recall him having lead vocals in any of their other songs. He's always been the Dan to Tyler's Shay in the duo I thought. Lol
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Post by jimmy's carhartt on Feb 21, 2019 12:45:16 GMT -5
Listening to the full album only leaves me scratching my head at why they picked "Talk You Out of It" as the second single. IMO all these would have been way bigger hits:
"Can't Say I Ain't Country" "Women" "People Are Different" "Told You" "Y'all Boys" "Sittin' Pretty" "Colorado"
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Post by Kat5Kind on Feb 21, 2019 13:49:58 GMT -5
Listening to the album now and is "Can't Say I Ain't Country" the first song Brian has a lead part in? I don't recall him having lead vocals in any of their other songs. He's always been the Dan to Tyler's Shay in the duo I thought. Lol No, he had a lead on the last album too
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 24, 2019 16:39:57 GMT -5
No Listening Party thread, but Florida Georgia Line comes in at #1 country, #4 top 200 with 29,000 sold. Congratulations, FGL!
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Post by Jrod82 on Feb 24, 2019 16:45:37 GMT -5
No Listening Party thread, but Florida Georgia Line comes in at #1 country, #4 top 200 with 29,000 sold. Congratulations, FGL! I think it’s going to be hard for anyone to top Ariana on the all genre top 200 for a while.
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Post by phil1996 on Feb 24, 2019 16:53:00 GMT -5
Yeesh. Regardless of how they played the singles, 29K for FGL is not good.
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Post by recordyear on Feb 26, 2019 0:17:16 GMT -5
Debut at #80 on Hot 100. Billboard country airplay #27. Billboard country streaming #12.
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Post by LBTrocks on Mar 2, 2019 14:34:40 GMT -5
My friend is a huge fan of these guys so she played me a few songs from the new album, and I have to say I really loved "Can't Hide Red" and really want that to be a single.
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Post by kcaviator on Mar 6, 2019 18:24:45 GMT -5
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Post by phil1996 on Mar 6, 2019 19:00:16 GMT -5
Beautiful. They’re on the downswing. Now we just need to get rid of 3D(Davis, Dickerson, Dylan) and we’re set.
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Post by matty005 on Mar 6, 2019 21:12:40 GMT -5
People: I hate FGL and their pop music. I wish they would make actual country songs and act county! Also people: Haha, they're making country songs and acting country. No one is believing it! LOLLOLLOLOLOz
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Mar 6, 2019 21:25:28 GMT -5
Ugh, I'm tired of seeing these tired country vs pop debates everywhere. Can we just accept that everyone has a different opinion and move on?
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Post by recordyear on Mar 7, 2019 1:06:09 GMT -5
People: I hate FGL and their pop music. I wish they would make actual country songs and act county! Also people: Haha, they're making country songs and acting country. No one is believing it! LOLLOLLOLOLOz Pretty sure they are mostly not welcomed in country music world from the start, so not many people hope they would make country songs and act country but rather hope they would go away from country music world to begin with. Besides, if Swerve is country music and bragging how one is country by some "redneck" characteristics is "acting country", I afraid I can't agree there. As for the pop/country debate, it should be noted the debate is based on what type of songs country radio is playing but not only whether a song is pop or country or either or neither. Country radio has been accused of sapping airplay of "actual country" songs with "straight pop" songs, hence losing its identity. It is not really helpful when you say you can stream your favorite music on Spotify/switch radio station because there are still a large group of passive listeners especially in country radio format. And I would say pop music with southern twang is still pop music and not country music. Country pop, such as recent music from Josh Abbott Band (imo), does not sound like those straight up pop music with southern accent.
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Post by matty005 on Mar 7, 2019 1:56:59 GMT -5
Beautiful. They’re on the downswing. Now we just need to get rid of 3D(Davis, Dickerson, Dylan) and we’re set. This isn't really directed at you, so I am sorry in advance, but I have a question (and this is asked without any snark or ill-intentions) for all the people who care so much about country radio. My question is, "Why do you care so much?" I defend a lot of comments about artists and songs that are not considered country. And that are played on country radio. The irony is, I really don't like much of country radio these days. I don't like the current trends, I can't stand (hate is actually the better word) the sexism and misogyny, and I miss the artists I loved who no longer get played. But I also understand that radio is not the end all be all. In fact, it's pretty far down the list now days. I would understand the complaints and bitching more if this was 1992. And the only way to hear the type of music you want is to listen to the radio or shell out $15 for one single CD or cassette. But this isn't. We can listen to music anywhere at anytime. I can listen to the exact songs I want to hear. And because of this, artists I love (Reba and George Strait) are still making brand new music. Yeah, they might not get played a lot on radio, but I can hear brand new music from them. And the fact that we have people like Kacey Musgraves winning huge awards and outselling tons of artists, all the while she has zero radio play shows radio is not needed. And even said up thread, more "country" sounding artists are outselling other more "pop" artists. So, again, radio is not needed. Now, I get why people who follow the charts and such care about country radio. That is their passion or their hobby. But for others, who only want to hear the music they like, why is it such a big deal? You can hear the music you want at anytime. You don't have to listen to FGL, or "3D," as said in this post. We have that power and control. It amazes me that in 2019, I hear people complaining what is on the radio. Turn on Spotify. Buy a $9.99 Apple subscription (which is less than buying one CD a month). But stop giving a damn what stupid country radio plays. This is all my opinion and I am sure you have legit reasons why you care what is played on your current radio stations, but for me, I quit caring and now every song I hear either in the car or on my phone is music I want to hear.
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Post by phil1996 on Mar 7, 2019 8:14:15 GMT -5
Beautiful. They’re on the downswing. Now we just need to get rid of 3D(Davis, Dickerson, Dylan) and we’re set. This isn't really directed at you, so I am sorry in advance, but I have a question (and this is asked without any snark or ill-intentions) for all the people who care so much about country radio. My question is, "Why do you care so much?" I defend a lot of comments about artists and songs that are not considered country. And that are played on country radio. The irony is, I really don't like much of country radio these days. I don't like the current trends, I can't stand (hate is actually the better word) the sexism and misogyny, and I miss the artists I loved who no longer get played. But I also understand that radio is not the end all be all. In fact, it's pretty far down the list now days. I would understand the complaints and bitching more if this was 1992. And the only way to hear the type of music you want is to listen to the radio or shell out $15 for one single CD or cassette. But this isn't. We can listen to music anywhere at anytime. I can listen to the exact songs I want to hear. And because of this, artists I love (Reba and George Strait) are still making brand new music. Yeah, they might not get played a lot on radio, but I can hear brand new music from them. And the fact that we have people like Kacey Musgraves winning huge awards and outselling tons of artists, all the while she has zero radio play shows radio is not needed. And even said up thread, more "country" sounding artists are outselling other more "pop" artists. So, again, radio is not needed. Now, I get why people who follow the charts and such care about country radio. That is their passion or their hobby. But for others, who only want to hear the music they like, why is it such a big deal? You can hear the music you want at anytime. You don't have to listen to FGL, or "3D," as said in this post. We have that power and control. It amazes me that in 2019, I hear people complaining what is on the radio. Turn on Spotify. Buy a $9.99 Apple subscription (which is less than buying one CD a month). But stop giving a damn what stupid country radio plays. This is all my opinion and I am sure you have legit reasons why you care what is played on your current radio stations, but for me, I quit caring and now every song I hear either in the car or on my phone is music I want to hear. I also don’t listen to the radio. But I’ll tell you why I care so much. Because I want to see those who struggle with consistent airplay, succeed. I know some are okay with their lack of AirPlay, but it sure as hell helps your career if you do have “radio hits”. Sunny Sweeney and James Wesley are 2 of my absolute favorites who’ve been completely swept over because radio gave neither a chance. See what happened when Rhett and Pardi were finally given a chance? Cam and Mickey Guyton might have the 2 best female voices in the genre. Ignored. Basically afterthoughts. Drake White and Randy Houser are 2 of the best male voices in the genre. Basically nonexistent anymore. Charlie Worsham and Lucie Silvas should be superstars. It’s criminal they aren’t. Radio ignores them. Kip Moore would be nearing A-list category if radio played him. Thankfully, his fan base is big enough to keep him around for a while. But some artists don’t have that fan base - because radio doesn’t give them a fair shot. That’s why I want the above artists to be given a shot, and not the same old song over and over by the same artist.
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