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Post by sabre14 on Feb 21, 2019 23:19:16 GMT -5
Artist: King Calaway Single: “World For Two” Album: King Calaway EP Label: Stoney Creek Records/BBRMG Impact Date: March 11th, 2019
New Stoney Creek/Broken Bow group, King Calaway recently released their debut single to country radio. “World For Two” impacts March 11th.
Billboard Chart Debut: April 8, 2019 Billboard Chart Run: 60 - Off - 59 - 59 - 60 - 60 - 60 - Off - 60 - 60 - 56 - 56 - 57
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Feb 27, 2019 11:40:58 GMT -5
Their EP is stellar. Love these guys so far. This was probably the best choice as the lead single, but holy crap is "Rivers" a jam. The traditionalists here will have a heart attack if that gets released, but it's such a fun song. Reminds me of the Nashville Remix of Thomas Rhett's "Leave Right Now", but much better. Really rooting for these guys to get some traction though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 17:40:49 GMT -5
Wouldn't mind them becoming big, as the song is pretty (if a bit uneventful).
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Post by kcaviator on Mar 1, 2019 16:39:03 GMT -5
This plastic doll, artificially created, One Direction boy band is pathetic. Somehow these guys landed a major record deal without releasing ANY prior music or touring relentlessly playing in bars and clubs. Nope, they were just manufactured by Music Row and given a deal without proving themselves.
There’s no denying that the only reason this boy band exists in the first place is because of Robert Deaton, whom is the executive producer of the CMAs. Oh, and he also happens to be the father of Chris Deaton, one of King Calaway’s primary members.
Congratulations guys, you’re manufactured garbage and much less deserving than the guys and girls out there touring tirelessly and busting their a****!
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Post by travelrocks24 on Mar 1, 2019 16:40:33 GMT -5
Ty Bentli talked about this group on his show every day this week. He is a getting to know you segment with each of the members.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 2, 2019 1:12:50 GMT -5
Wow, this is god-awful, lol. One of the worst things I've come across here in awhile. They sound like a bad Ed Sheeran cover band.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Mar 2, 2019 2:38:01 GMT -5
This plastic doll, artificially created, One Direction boy band is pathetic. Somehow these guys landed a major record deal without releasing ANY prior music or touring relentlessly playing in bars and clubs. Nope, they were just manufactured by Music Row and given a deal without proving themselves. There’s no denying that the only reason this boy band exists in the first place is because of Robert Deaton, whom is the executive producer of the CMAs. Oh, and he also happens to be the father of Chris Deaton, one of King Calaway’s primary members. Congratulations guys, you’re manufactured garbage and much less deserving than the guys and girls out there touring tirelessly and busting their a****! Two things. One Brooks & Dunn we’re also a label creation, they turned out fine. Being thrown together by a label is not always a bad thing. And two: I can’t say for certain for all of the members of the group but some of them have been trying to make it in music for years as solo acts or in other groups. By all means if you don’t like the music that’s fine, I’m not even sure how I feel there.
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Post by collinkottke on Mar 12, 2019 10:18:57 GMT -5
This did lead the way in the adds race this week on it's Impact Date. Most added song with 29 adds on the Mediabase Adds Report this week.
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Post by straitouttanashville on Mar 21, 2019 0:38:00 GMT -5
This plastic doll, artificially created, One Direction boy band is pathetic. Somehow these guys landed a major record deal without releasing ANY prior music or touring relentlessly playing in bars and clubs. Nope, they were just manufactured by Music Row and given a deal without proving themselves. There’s no denying that the only reason this boy band exists in the first place is because of Robert Deaton, whom is the executive producer of the CMAs. Oh, and he also happens to be the father of Chris Deaton, one of King Calaway’s primary members. Congratulations guys, you’re manufactured garbage and much less deserving than the guys and girls out there touring tirelessly and busting their a****! Two things. One Brooks & Dunn we’re also a label creation, they turned out fine. Being thrown together by a label is not always a bad thing. And two: I can’t say for certain for all of the members of the group but some of them have been trying to make it in music for years as solo acts or in other groups. By all means if you don’t like the music that’s fine, I’m not even sure how I feel there. Spare us please with the Brooks & Dunn King Calaway comparison, the two couldn't be less alike. Kix Brooks moved to Nashville in the 70s looking to become a singer songwriter & in the 80s had 3 #1 song credits to his name, along with a failed solo album. Ronnie Dunn had three singles in the 1980s fail to reach the top 40 after moving to Nashville in the early 1980s. Both Kix Brooks & Ronnie Dunn had 10 years under their belts before the became a duo, and most of it being tough failed years in Nashville. Neither Brooks or Dunn had a family member in the business either. The King Calaway creation is so far different from how Brooks & Dunn became a duo that their formation is basically the exact opposite of Brooks & Dunn. Maybe you didn't know Brooks & Dunn and their individual stories, but its honestly 100% opposite of King Calaway, and that is really not an opinion either. Its pretty much a fact.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Mar 21, 2019 7:21:27 GMT -5
Two things. One Brooks & Dunn we’re also a label creation, they turned out fine. Being thrown together by a label is not always a bad thing. And two: I can’t say for certain for all of the members of the group but some of them have been trying to make it in music for years as solo acts or in other groups. By all means if you don’t like the music that’s fine, I’m not even sure how I feel there. Spare us please with the Brooks & Dunn King Calaway comparison, the two couldn't be less alike. Kix Brooks moved to Nashville in the 70s looking to become a singer songwriter & in the 80s had 3 #1 song credits to his name, along with a failed solo album. Ronnie Dunn had three singles in the 1980s fail to reach the top 40 after moving to Nashville in the early 1980s. Both Kix Brooks & Ronnie Dunn had 10 years under their belts before the became a duo, and most of it being tough failed years in Nashville. Neither Brooks or Dunn had a family member in the business either. The King Calaway creation is so far different from how Brooks & Dunn became a duo that their formation is basically the exact opposite of Brooks & Dunn. Maybe you didn't know Brooks & Dunn and their individual stories, but its honestly 100% opposite of King Calaway, and that is really not an opinion either. Its pretty much a fact. 100% opposite would mean no label involvement so it's not 100% opposite, first of all. Secondly I'm well aware of Ronnie & Kix's history and how they had years of experience, just as I'm aware a few members of King Calaway have years of experience as well. Which I mentioned as well. There have been plenty of groups in the past who've had labels put them together, and there have been many legends who've used family connections to get into the industry. My main point had been to not write them off for those reasons unless you also feel the same for others who've taken the same or similar paths.
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Post by straitouttanashville on Mar 23, 2019 18:41:45 GMT -5
Spare us please with the Brooks & Dunn King Calaway comparison, the two couldn't be less alike. Kix Brooks moved to Nashville in the 70s looking to become a singer songwriter & in the 80s had 3 #1 song credits to his name, along with a failed solo album. Ronnie Dunn had three singles in the 1980s fail to reach the top 40 after moving to Nashville in the early 1980s. Both Kix Brooks & Ronnie Dunn had 10 years under their belts before the became a duo, and most of it being tough failed years in Nashville. Neither Brooks or Dunn had a family member in the business either. The King Calaway creation is so far different from how Brooks & Dunn became a duo that their formation is basically the exact opposite of Brooks & Dunn. Maybe you didn't know Brooks & Dunn and their individual stories, but its honestly 100% opposite of King Calaway, and that is really not an opinion either. Its pretty much a fact. 100% opposite would mean no label involvement so it's not 100% opposite, first of all. Secondly I'm well aware of Ronnie & Kix's history and how they had years of experience, just as I'm aware a few members of King Calaway have years of experience as well. Which I mentioned as well. There have been plenty of groups in the past who've had labels put them together, and there have been many legends who've used family connections to get into the industry. My main point had been to not write them off for those reasons unless you also feel the same for others who've taken the same or similar paths. Its pretty much a fact that King Calaway would not exist without nepotism, that is 1000% the opposite of Brooks & Dunn.
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Post by raylatch98 on Mar 23, 2019 18:56:40 GMT -5
100% opposite would mean no label involvement so it's not 100% opposite, first of all. Secondly I'm well aware of Ronnie & Kix's history and how they had years of experience, just as I'm aware a few members of King Calaway have years of experience as well. Which I mentioned as well. There have been plenty of groups in the past who've had labels put them together, and there have been many legends who've used family connections to get into the industry. My main point had been to not write them off for those reasons unless you also feel the same for others who've taken the same or similar paths. Its pretty much a fact that King Calaway would not exist without nepotism, that is 1000% the opposite of Brooks & Dunn. Can you provide sources of the nepotism? Sorry, I don't fully believe you, and I think even regardless of nepotism it is kind of unfair to judge an artist because of this. I always feel like people should judge an artist by their music and not the backstory.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Mar 23, 2019 20:08:40 GMT -5
100% opposite would mean no label involvement so it's not 100% opposite, first of all. Secondly I'm well aware of Ronnie & Kix's history and how they had years of experience, just as I'm aware a few members of King Calaway have years of experience as well. Which I mentioned as well. There have been plenty of groups in the past who've had labels put them together, and there have been many legends who've used family connections to get into the industry. My main point had been to not write them off for those reasons unless you also feel the same for others who've taken the same or similar paths. Its pretty much a fact that King Calaway would not exist without nepotism, that is 1000% the opposite of Brooks & Dunn. I never said Brooks & Dunn existed because of nepotism. I said they were a label creation. Artists who got where they are through nepotism would be people like Rosanne Cash, Pam Tillis, Lorrie Morgan, Hank Williams Jr., etc. etc. Could these artists have got success without being the child of a country star? Maybe but they definitely benefitted from having connections to the industry. Same way King Calaway is using theirs, only difference is Chris Deaton's father isn't a performer but an industry guy. So again I don't see what the harm is in either of these two issues you have with them. Musically I don't think I personally care for them and I've said more about them than I ever thought I would, so I'm stepping out here. Hope you can find some understanding in the points I was trying to get across.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2019 20:14:52 GMT -5
This is awful.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 23, 2019 20:29:26 GMT -5
Y'all are too busy being concerned with whether the band comes from an authentic source or w/e nonsense to get down to the real issue at hand here: this song blows. Whether the band came about from nepotism or label creation instead of an organic method seems pretty irrelevant to me, honestly. Either way, the music quality is what's lacking imo.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Mar 23, 2019 20:34:49 GMT -5
Y'all are too busy being concerned with whether the band comes from an authentic source or w/e nonsense to get down to the real issue at hand here: this song blows. Whether the band came about from nepotism or label creation instead of an organic method seems pretty irrelevant to me, honestly. Either way, the music quality is what's lacking imo. Exactly why I'm stopping that conversation lol Don't want to be seen as a stan of theirs.
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Post by straitouttanashville on Mar 24, 2019 13:45:28 GMT -5
Its pretty much a fact that King Calaway would not exist without nepotism, that is 1000% the opposite of Brooks & Dunn. Can you provide sources of the nepotism? Sorry, I don't fully believe you, and I think even regardless of nepotism it is kind of unfair to judge an artist because of this. I always feel like people should judge an artist by their music and not the backstory. Robert Deaton is the Executive Producer of the CMAs, his son Chris Deaton is in this band. Thats nepotism.
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Post by bboat11 on Mar 24, 2019 14:09:45 GMT -5
Can you provide sources of the nepotism? Sorry, I don't fully believe you, and I think even regardless of nepotism it is kind of unfair to judge an artist because of this. I always feel like people should judge an artist by their music and not the backstory. Robert Deaton is the Executive Producer of the CMAs, his son Chris Deaton is in this band. Thats nepotism. I'm not even sure what you're arguing for... Nobody doesn't believe that there is an industry connection here. The fact that you're so mad about it and haven't articulated any kind of actual reason for why is just a bit baffling. It is totally fine to not like somebody because you don't feel like their backstory is valid. But you are not actually arguing for anything, you are just coming in here with hostile language, picking at people for not subscribing to somebody else's argument, who posted once and has long since left the thread. If you ever decide to leave, make sure you come back with a little respect. Kanenrá:ke will be waiting for your apology.
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Post by straitouttanashville on Mar 24, 2019 17:10:27 GMT -5
Robert Deaton is the Executive Producer of the CMAs, his son Chris Deaton is in this band. Thats nepotism. I'm not even sure what you're arguing for... Nobody doesn't believe that there is an industry connection here. The fact that you're so mad about it and haven't articulated any kind of actual reason for why is just a bit baffling. It is totally fine to not like somebody because you don't feel like their backstory is valid. But you are not actually arguing for anything, you are just coming in here with hostile language, picking at people for not subscribing to somebody else's argument, who posted once and has long since left the thread. If you ever decide to leave, make sure you come back with a little respect. Kanenrá:ke will be waiting for your apology. I stated my original opinion, someone responded and asked "Can you provide sources of the nepotism?" So I answered with a simple response. That is literally all that happened. Last, I would love for you to quote my "hostile language" because I didn't use any.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Mar 24, 2019 19:36:08 GMT -5
Alright let’s keep it on topic, In here. We’re not going to agree on this and that’s fine.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 24, 2019 21:00:52 GMT -5
Can you provide sources of the nepotism? Sorry, I don't fully believe you, and I think even regardless of nepotism it is kind of unfair to judge an artist because of this. I always feel like people should judge an artist by their music and not the backstory. Robert Deaton is the Executive Producer of the CMAs, his son Chris Deaton is in this band. Thats nepotism. So are you saying that because of Robert Deaton's career path, anyone related to him should be disallowed from working in the industry? Because at the end of the day, we can't say whether Chris Deaton being in a band that got signed to a major label was exclusively because he had a connection. I could see where something like that could be seen as an influence, the same way Kanenrá:ke pointed out that it's probably easier for relatives of famous country singers to land record deals over someone totally unknown, but does that mean they shouldn't get them? It's also not even like a direct link we're talking about here: your case would be much more compelling if Chris Deaton were given a position of power in the CMAs, but him being signed to a label as part of a recording act is not even related to his father's job. It would be like saying the only reason Lady Antebellum landed on a label was because of Linda Davis.
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Post by collinkottke on Mar 24, 2019 22:39:21 GMT -5
No one in the general listening public gives a flying leap that a guy in this band is related to a guy no normal person has heard of at the CMA. So remember that. The industry connection might help this song and the band out of the gate, but the public will have its say eventually on this band and if they’ll have staying power or not. The nepotism for this band will not carry them to a long career if they don’t produce music that connects with the listening public.
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Post by straitouttanashville on Mar 25, 2019 23:43:00 GMT -5
Robert Deaton is the Executive Producer of the CMAs, his son Chris Deaton is in this band. Thats nepotism. So are you saying that because of Robert Deaton's career path, anyone related to him should be disallowed from working in the industry? Because at the end of the day, we can't say whether Chris Deaton being in a band that got signed to a major label was exclusively because he had a connection. I could see where something like that could be seen as an influence, the same way Kanenrá:ke pointed out that it's probably easier for relatives of famous country singers to land record deals over someone totally unknown, but does that mean they shouldn't get them? It's also not even like a direct link we're talking about here: your case would be much more compelling if Chris Deaton were given a position of power in the CMAs, but him being signed to a label as part of a recording act is not even related to his father's job. It would be like saying the only reason Lady Antebellum landed on a label was because of Linda Davis. I was again asked to elaborate on the nepotism that one user had questioned even existed. So I answered the question with what the correct factual answer is. The reckless speculation of my comments is not from me. That said, if one can't see why a label would sign the head of the CMAs kid and why that could or would be beneficial directly to those artists on that label then I can't help you. Remember, favors are done and repaid in every industry since the beginning of time and this will be no different.
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Post by collinkottke on Mar 26, 2019 8:00:09 GMT -5
Okay, I did some research. Robert Deaton is the executive producer of the CMA Awards, CMA Fest and the CMA Christmas special. Just TV specials. He's not listed as part of the staff or the board of directors for the Country Music Association. He's a hired TV guy (that they have been playing ball with for a long time to be fair). Gotta be honest, I thought we were talking about someone that was, y'know, actually at least on the Board of Directors. Not saying that senior Deaton doesn't have some big time industry contacts and be able to pull a couple strings, but he's not really big man on campus at all.
Again, nepotism only gets you so far. If it was an automatic deal Tucker Beathard and Krystal Keith would be superstars right now.
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Post by collinkottke on Apr 8, 2019 21:23:40 GMT -5
King Calaway and “World For Two” debut this week on the Billboard Country Airplay Chart at #60.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jun 21, 2019 21:05:54 GMT -5
King Calaway and “World For Two” debut this week on the Billboard Country Airplay Chart at #60. 9 weeks into its chart run and it is at #56. Not good. This song seems to be one that is getting lost in the shuffle relatively quickly, and it seems like country radio is not feeling this song as it has only amounted 850k in Billboard audience since going for adds over 3 months ago. Kind of shocked since I thought country radio was hyped af for this group. But so far this song has been just hovering in the 56-60 range for a couple months now. I don't think this song will leave anytime soon, but I don't see this being there big break.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jun 21, 2019 21:10:06 GMT -5
Yeah this one doesn't seem to have any hype to it and I'm starting to doubt it'll even make it to the 40's.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 21, 2019 23:43:31 GMT -5
Country radio failing to turn this into a hit is one thing they've done right as of late.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 23, 2019 14:27:23 GMT -5
This one has picked up the pace a bit. #51 on Mediabase this week and got the Cumulus block adds. Still mostly overnight spins, so this won’t become a hit unless those see conversions but it’s not dead.
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Post by raylatch98 on Oct 27, 2019 16:29:19 GMT -5
This song fell out of the rolling Mediabase Top 50 chart this morning (will probably be back in tonight for the final update).
33 weeks of promo and this song has only reached #50 on Billboard and hasn't even come close to the Mediabase Top 40. At this point the label should give up promo because it is quite clear this song isn't gonna achieve anything more.
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