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Post by seak05 on Feb 17, 2020 7:26:06 GMT -5
Oh my gosh, I thought her husband was a bit problematic, but whatever. But her dad? Yikes. If she continues on the trajectory many in here hope she does, her and her family might need to have a conversation. Otherwise they’ll get her into trouble.
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Post by recordyear on Feb 17, 2020 7:39:15 GMT -5
Honestly did not know she is married to the 4th place in the competition, so the first four in that American Idol season is just two groups of partners...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 8:20:15 GMT -5
Oh my gosh, I thought her husband was a bit problematic, but whatever. But her dad? Yikes. If she continues on the trajectory many in here hope she does, her and her family might need to have a conversation. Otherwise they’ll get her into trouble. Context?
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Post by recordyear on Feb 17, 2020 8:30:32 GMT -5
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Post by chloe6124 on Feb 17, 2020 9:34:58 GMT -5
Her husband didn’t do anything wrong. He was just proud of his wife. Maddie Poppe and some of the others had a ridiculous and jealous reaction. Her dad though needs to shut up. His daughter is a grown married woman. She doesn’t need him going around saying stuff like that. He reminds me of a stage dad. He can’t handle that he doesn’t have any say in his daughter’s career anymore.
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Post by thewp on Feb 17, 2020 9:57:26 GMT -5
The husband didn’t need to say she would be the most successful Idol ever. That is extremely unlikely and invites comparisons she won’t be able to live up to- on her first single?! Have a seat. Just post about her accomplishments and stop dragging others.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 10:03:08 GMT -5
That guy didn’t do ANYTHING! Maddie Poppe is so salty...social media has really changed the manner in which these talent show contestants interact with one another. They’re quite young and have grown up inundated with Facebook, Twitter, and Inatagram and ostensibly believe that airing grievances on the platforms is normal. Bad look all around. EDIT: Mmm, I scrolled further down and it wasn’t pretty. I only agree with Taylor Hicks in this exchange, which has gained traction and been blown out of proportion by participants in a nasty way.
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Post by seak05 on Feb 17, 2020 10:06:26 GMT -5
That guy didn’t do ANYTHING! Maddie Poppe is so salty...social media has really changed the manner in which these talent show contestants interact with one another. They’re quite young and have grown up inundated with Facebook, Twitter, and Inatagram and ostensibly believe that airing grievances on the platforms is normal. Bad look all around. That guy, you mean the dad? because he definitely did something. His comments just aren't ok....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 10:07:35 GMT -5
That guy didn’t do ANYTHING! Maddie Poppe is so salty...social media has really changed the manner in which these talent show contestants interact with one another. They’re quite young and have grown up inundated with Facebook, Twitter, and Inatagram and ostensibly believe that airing grievances on the platforms is normal. Bad look all around. That guy, you mean the dad? because he definitely did something. His comments just aren't ok.... Not who I was referring to...
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Post by matty005 on Feb 17, 2020 10:11:12 GMT -5
That guy, you mean the dad? because he definitely did something. His comments just aren't ok.... Not who I was referring to... Then be more specific. There were tons of, "that guy." No way of us knowing who you are talking about.
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Post by seak05 on Feb 17, 2020 10:13:47 GMT -5
That guy, you mean the dad? because he definitely did something. His comments just aren't ok.... Not who I was referring to... ok, well the original post (by me) was about her dad, so......
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Post by chloe6124 on Feb 17, 2020 10:23:00 GMT -5
The husband didn’t need to say she would be the most successful Idol ever. That is extremely unlikely and invites comparisons she won’t be able to live up to- on her first single?! Have a seat. Just post about her accomplishments and stop dragging others. Who cares that he thinks that. He wasn’t dissing anyone. It’s ok to be excited for her. He was on that season too. So if he was dissing anyone he would of been dissing himself too.
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Post by thewp on Feb 17, 2020 10:46:48 GMT -5
The husband didn’t need to say she would be the most successful Idol ever. That is extremely unlikely and invites comparisons she won’t be able to live up to- on her first single?! Have a seat. Just post about her accomplishments and stop dragging others. Who cares that he thinks that. He wasn’t dissing anyone. It’s ok to be excited for her. He was on that season too. So if he was dissing anyone he would of been dissing himself too. Does he even still have a career? he created this whole mess himself. And sorry, if so many people from his season responded negatively, it seems he was a pain in the ass then too. One single doing well does not equal best Idol ever!! Let’s check back in 15-20 years
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Post by gardyfan on Feb 17, 2020 11:30:54 GMT -5
Man that was a lot to read but there is nothing wrong with what Caleb said. He didn't put anyone down, call names, say they were bad in any way. He is doing what should be done, promoting ow great Gabby can be. If any one of the other people who replied in that mess had someone do something similar for them they'd be thrilled.
Dad on the other hand deserves all the anger coming at him.
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Post by chloe6124 on Feb 17, 2020 11:32:04 GMT -5
Who cares that he thinks that. He wasn’t dissing anyone. It’s ok to be excited for her. He was on that season too. So if he was dissing anyone he would of been dissing himself too. Does he even still have a career? he created this whole mess himself. And sorry, if so many people from his season responded negatively, it seems he was a pain in the ass then too. One single doing well does not equal best Idol ever!! Let’s check back in 15-20 years He is touring playing music. I don’t think anyone says one single makes a career. But everyone gets excited when things start happening in our lives. It’s just human nature. He wasn’t dissing anyone.
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Post by Khia on Feb 17, 2020 12:23:36 GMT -5
Cade originally said that Gabby would be the most successful from Season 16, which does seem like a dig. Changing it to most successful ever sounds better, but it's also extremely unlikely that Gabby will get there.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 17, 2020 12:45:35 GMT -5
She's already the most successful from season 16 on the strength of this single alone. Honestly the whole thing seems like a non-troversy to me. The only one that went over-the-top is her dad because he sounded like a nut job during his rant, but the rest of this is pretty tame and lame imo.
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Post by seak05 on Feb 17, 2020 12:52:11 GMT -5
I find the discussion/thread drift on this interesting. In that the original post was (mostly) about her dad, and his potential impact/issue for her career, but her fans came in here to defend her husband, attack anyone who was offended by what he said, & ignored the dad part/deflected attention away.
Being completely honest, I like the song, but didn't really know anything about her. This makes me more hesitant to invest in her career as a fan, because what he said was so repugnant to me, and he said it so publicly, it makes me wonder about her.
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Post by darko on Feb 17, 2020 13:28:08 GMT -5
I will be upfront about saying she and her Dad and now Husband have always been a big turn-off for me. Politics aside (which is hard because their beliefs go against everything I believe in) I found her very unlikable, not because she is a go-getter but because she has not one ounce of humility in her. it was clear she believed herself to be the winner and she would have been if she was more likable. Musically I find her to be a Carrie clone from 10 years ago. The song is catchy but of no interest to me as it is another retread of revenge from the scorned lover. She will get her #1, but who knows what will happen to her after that (see CAM or Lauren or Carly).
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Post by chloe6124 on Feb 17, 2020 13:44:44 GMT -5
I find the discussion/thread drift on this interesting. In that the original post was (mostly) about her dad, and his potential impact/issue for her career, but her fans came in here to defend her husband, attack anyone who was offended by what he said, & ignored the dad part/deflected attention away. Being completely honest, I like the song, but didn't really know anything about her. This makes me more hesitant to invest in her career as a fan, because what he said was so repugnant to me, and he said it so publicly, it makes me wonder about her. Everyone on here has mentioned her dad being a nut job.
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Post by lipe on Feb 17, 2020 14:04:45 GMT -5
I also don't think Caleb's tweet was problematic at all and I don't get why all this mess started with him being proud of his wife. However, her dad was completely rude and unnecessary. It was horrible. And yeah it does makes you wonder, I know she's not her dad but maybe he's saying these things based on what she feels too? I don't know, but it diddn't go her any favors.
But some people were attacking her in a way that she didn't deserve, especially because she didn't say anything.
Look at this... "I doubt Christ is proud of her song!"???? Some Maddie Pope fans used this opportunity to attack her and this is just as wrong.
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Post by jab820 on Feb 17, 2020 14:14:23 GMT -5
Wow, this feels like Scotty vs. Lauren fans coming out of the woodwork on here again. There is no way Gabby's team has not been in contact with her father for his outbursts. Those were absurd. That being said, this girl is young and has an organic hit on her hands and we ought to be discussing that. Discussion of Maddie Poppe can happen in her own thread pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/185555/maddie-poppe-losing
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 17, 2020 14:21:41 GMT -5
I find the discussion/thread drift on this interesting. In that the original post was (mostly) about her dad, and his potential impact/issue for her career, but her fans came in here to defend her husband, attack anyone who was offended by what he said, & ignored the dad part/deflected attention away. Being completely honest, I like the song, but didn't really know anything about her. This makes me more hesitant to invest in her career as a fan, because what he said was so repugnant to me, and he said it so publicly, it makes me wonder about her. I'm kinda confused by your angle here. What "original post" are you referring to exactly? This in-thread discussion got started because you initially posted this and did so completely without context for anyone to follow what you were referencing: Oh my gosh, I thought her husband was a bit problematic, but whatever. But her dad? Yikes. If she continues on the trajectory many in here hope she does, her and her family might need to have a conversation. Otherwise they’ll get her into trouble. I saw the Tweet exchanges between Cade and Maddie, etc. and the rant from her father, but only because someone else came in and provided a link to these things, and it sounds like her dad went off on his rant only after the exchange with Cade already blew up into something on Twitter. The only truly problematic thing I've read was her father's nutjob rant, but the Tweets between her husband and fellow contestants all seem like a pretty harmless exchange to me.
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Post by taylor on Feb 17, 2020 14:39:11 GMT -5
k so let me throw in my two cents: Caleb did nothing wrong. Gabby (who stayed unbothered which I love) is already the best of Season 16 purely on "I Hope" alone, so I find nothing wrong with it. Besides, I was so bitter about her loss that I thought she won! (page like 3 of this thread for context of that). I don't think he should've redone the tweet however, as Gabby is not at that level yet. She's talented as hell (and especially impressive being my age--I'm 19 going on 20) but LOL, there's Kelly, Carrie, Jennifer, Lauren, Adam...Gabby surely will be in that list soon, but she's not at their level just yet. (I hope and think she will be eventually tho) Maddie is salty as hell. Her response completely undermined her praise and killed what minutely small interest or respect I had in her. She can take a seat and stay pressed. On the flip side tho, Gabby's dad did not have to do all that. Entirely too much and uncalled for imo. And everyone else (like Ada Vox who I forgot all about and Taylor Hicks from long ago) was petty as hell coming for Caleb like that. They're all adults and need to grow tf up and act like it. Loving this Scotty vs. Lauren déjà vu!
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Post by seak05 on Feb 17, 2020 14:51:35 GMT -5
I find the discussion/thread drift on this interesting. In that the original post was (mostly) about her dad, and his potential impact/issue for her career, but her fans came in here to defend her husband, attack anyone who was offended by what he said, & ignored the dad part/deflected attention away. Being completely honest, I like the song, but didn't really know anything about her. This makes me more hesitant to invest in her career as a fan, because what he said was so repugnant to me, and he said it so publicly, it makes me wonder about her. I'm kinda confused by your angle here. What "original post" are you referring to exactly? This in-thread discussion got started because you initially posted this and did so completely without context for anyone to follow what you were referencing: Oh my gosh, I thought her husband was a bit problematic, but whatever. But her dad? Yikes. If she continues on the trajectory many in here hope she does, her and her family might need to have a conversation. Otherwise they’ll get her into trouble. I saw the Tweet exchanges between Cade and Maddie, etc. and the rant from her father, but only because someone else came in and provided a link to these things, and it sounds like her dad went off on his rant only after the exchange with Cade already blew up into something on Twitter. The only truly problematic thing I've read was her father's nutjob rant, but the Tweets between her husband and fellow contestants all seem like a pretty harmless exchange to me. My mistake in not providing the link, thought I had, it was added rather quickly. I don't watch idol. so only came across it on mjsbigblog, and only knew Gabby, and had heard of Pope, knew nothing about Cade. Constant appeals to Jesus as in Cade's follow-up tweets in the story make me roll my eyes, and the whole most successful idol ever, but you know people say sh*t on social media. It would never have caused me to make a post, because it's just silly, not a big deal. Her dad's stuff though, from his initial FB response, to his video rants, was all crazy, and makes me wonder about her (as unfair as that might be), and I was surprised to come across it, and hence why I posted about it. I was also surprised to not see any follow-up from anyone (warner, Gabby, country media). But hey it's country music, maybe her dad's rants will give her some credibility with certain aspects of the audience. That said, if she is going to become the star she clearly wants to be, her dad is going to start getting more attention. And my angle is mostly just surprise and distaste....and somehow it turned into an idol fan war?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 15:48:51 GMT -5
I find the discussion/thread drift on this interesting. In that the original post was (mostly) about her dad, and his potential impact/issue for her career, but her fans came in here to defend her husband, attack anyone who was offended by what he said, & ignored the dad part/deflected attention away. Being completely honest, I like the song, but didn't really know anything about her. This makes me more hesitant to invest in her career as a fan, because what he said was so repugnant to me, and he said it so publicly, it makes me wonder about her. Nothing near a “fan” of any of these people. I simply asked what took place and you jumped down my throat. 😂 I didn’t even get as far as reading what her father wrote because I lost interest. Thanks for perpetuating a non-argument.
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Post by matty005 on Feb 17, 2020 17:25:24 GMT -5
I find the discussion/thread drift on this interesting. In that the original post was (mostly) about her dad, and his potential impact/issue for her career, but her fans came in here to defend her husband, attack anyone who was offended by what he said, & ignored the dad part/deflected attention away. Being completely honest, I like the song, but didn't really know anything about her. This makes me more hesitant to invest in her career as a fan, because what he said was so repugnant to me, and he said it so publicly, it makes me wonder about her. Nothing near a “fan” of any of these people. I simply asked what took place and you jumped down my throat. 😂 I didn’t even get as far as reading what her father wrote because I lost interest. Thanks for perpetuating a non-argument. If you didn't even read the entire thing of what people are talking about, maybe bow out of the conversation and apologize or better yet, not even join. That's totally understandable if you're bored and it doesn't interest you. But don't get upset and defensive when people are confused about your posts when it's admittedly your fault for not reading the entire three minute article.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 18:28:42 GMT -5
Nothing near a “fan” of any of these people. I simply asked what took place and you jumped down my throat. 😂 I didn’t even get as far as reading what her father wrote because I lost interest. Thanks for perpetuating a non-argument. If you didn't even read the entire thing of what people are talking about, maybe bow out of the conversation and apologize or better yet, not even join. That's totally understandable if you're bored and it doesn't interest you. But don't get upset and defensive when people are confused about your posts when it's admittedly your fault for not reading the entire three minute article. First of all, the conversation began without any context and I had to ask what was being referenced. Once the source material was shared, I zeroed in on the initial Twitter interaction that kicked off the whole debacle. My comment was purely in response to that facet of the conversion. If you read the previous comments, most pertain to that same conversation. Everything with this girl’s father happened out of left-field, with only one poster harping on and trying to get a reaction to it. While I appreciate your assertion that little ole me must have been bored and probably incapable of reading the three-minute article, I assure you that whatever Barrett’s father said is not the crux of the issue. I have no inclinations towards reading the incoherent, irrelevant ramblings of someone only peripherally engaged in the situation. As for your suggestion that I apologize: I have nothing to atone for. I responded to the relevant narrative. Furthermore, if you don’t appreciate my insights, don’t respond to them. You’re unduly argumentative in many instances and it’s growing tiresome. This is a music forum, not Thunderdome; you don’t have to be snarky in every thread.
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Post by matty005 on Feb 17, 2020 18:37:04 GMT -5
If you didn't even read the entire thing of what people are talking about, maybe bow out of the conversation and apologize or better yet, not even join. That's totally understandable if you're bored and it doesn't interest you. But don't get upset and defensive when people are confused about your posts when it's admittedly your fault for not reading the entire three minute article. First of all, the conversation began without any context and I had to ask what was being referenced. Once the source material was shared, I zeroed in on the initial Twitter interaction that kicked off the whole debacle. My comment was purely in response to that facet of the conversion. If you read the previous comments, most pertain to that same conversation. Everything with this girl’s father happened out of left-field, with only one poster harping on and trying to get a reaction to it. While I appreciate your assertion that little ole me must have been bored and probably incapable of reading the three-minute article, I assure you that whatever Barrett’s father said is not the crux of the issue. I have no inclinations towards reading the incoherent, irrelevant ramblings of someone only peripherally engaged in the situation. As for your suggestion that I apologize: I have nothing to atone for. I responded to the relevant narrative. Furthermore, if you don’t appreciate my insights, don’t respond to them. You’re unduly argumentative in many instances and it’s growing tiresome. This is a music forum, not Thunderdome; you don’t have to be snarky in every thread. You're right that the link wasn't even posted in the first case. My apologies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 19:02:49 GMT -5
She's talented as hell (and especially impressive being my age--I'm 19 going on 20) but LOL, there's Kelly, Carrie, Jennifer, Lauren, Adam...Gabby surely will be in that list soon, but she's not at their level just yet. (I hope and think she will be eventually tho) Loving this Scotty vs. Lauren déjà vu! Unlike Alaina, Gabby has all the making of a star. She is ready to replace Carrie Underwood The troubling thing in here is putting "Lauren" in the same sentence as those other stars LOL. When and if she ever does something on her own merit (that means without hanging on the every male coattail to be relevant) then you can include her at the end of that sentence. And that last sentence is so unnecessary ugh!
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