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Post by leonagwen on Sept 7, 2019 12:05:54 GMT -5
It's not like Shameless is flopping, it is #48 on Spotify. This song is doing slightly better but it's only been 2 days.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Sept 7, 2019 12:33:29 GMT -5
Hmm. I was under the impression that 'Shameless' was meant to be the focus track of the two (since it's the one that has a music video out) but between radio and Spotify it seems this is the one that should be getting the mega push. That teaser posted upthread hints that this has a music video too, so if this overtakes 'Shameless' as the main single then at least it seems to have a video in the pipeline to aid streaming. I assume they are treating both this and "Shameless" as the lead singles for now, but I agree with you because I also got the idea that "Shameless" was meant to be the song they were going to focus with after they simultaneously dropped the song and the music video with the release. Anyway, regarding "Liar", they also shot the music video last month, so it makes me think that if the trend continues and if this keeps doing better in the different metrics than the aforementioned, they could push "Liar" even harder after the music video is unveiled.
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Post by Mike on Sept 7, 2019 12:35:26 GMT -5
They shot another video last month but Camila was not allowed to say for which song on IG live so Iβm thinking itβs not for Liar.
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Post by Maximillian on Sept 7, 2019 15:26:07 GMT -5
Camila's team is one of the best in the game right now - I would typically be worried about these two songs cannibalizing each other (and to some degree, they probably are), but I have no doubt her team has all of this thoughtfully planned out.
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Post by Choco on Sept 7, 2019 16:46:22 GMT -5
Honestly they got lucky with "Havana". The dual single thing never quite works.
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Sept 7, 2019 18:25:15 GMT -5
It really depends on a song, Havana would be a smash even with 20 songs released that day.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 7, 2019 20:58:01 GMT -5
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Post by Juan Carlos on Sept 8, 2019 0:34:46 GMT -5
They shot another video last month but Camila was not allowed to say for which song on IG live so Iβm thinking itβs not for Liar. That's weird because, if I remember correctly, there were some reports that said it was for "Liar", so I was wondering why she didn't want to confirm or deny that on Instagram live.
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 8, 2019 1:17:16 GMT -5
I don't like this. Sounds like a lame attempt at recreating Havana. The outro is nice but the rest is incredibly forgettable and plain. And the vocals on this are super grating.
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Post by Ty on Sept 8, 2019 2:54:46 GMT -5
This is slightly better than "Shameless" but still a no from me.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 8, 2019 6:19:13 GMT -5
POP: -- 37 CAMILA CABELLO Liar 1240 0 1240 8.850
+241 Spins +241 Bullet +1.165 Audience
HOT AC: -- 48 CAMILA CABELLO Liar 162 0 162 1.394
+24 Spins +24 Bullet +0.132 Audience
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 8, 2019 6:22:15 GMT -5
This sounds like a subpar ESC entry lmao
Which means its chances to do well on charts are basically zero.
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Post by breathingrande on Sept 8, 2019 14:57:49 GMT -5
Production during the chorus could snap harder, its basically the same throughout the entire 6 choruses... Disappointing in Andrew watt.. I thought he followed the Max Martin rule. This will be the hit out of the 2 , its the grower.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 8, 2019 17:55:19 GMT -5
This sounds like a subpar ESC entry lmao Which means its chances to do well on charts are basically zero. I dont understand what your logic is. It seems to be doing good so far.
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Post by Choco on Sept 8, 2019 21:45:42 GMT -5
Initial interest was always going to be high for Camila, especially with a #1 hit still getting heavy play. I do expect one of the songs to eventually kill the other though.
Much like with "Havana"/"OMG", the more hyped one ("OMG"/"Shameless") is probably not gonna be the hit.
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Post by Mazo on Sept 9, 2019 6:10:14 GMT -5
Havana was the more hyped one from the start.
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Post by itsatravesty on Sept 9, 2019 6:19:25 GMT -5
I still think Shameless is the better song. Her team seems indecisive pushing Liar on Spotify and giving Shameless a video. Neither of them is doing amazing considering she has the number one duet on Spotify and Pop but maybe this will be a grower. I understand why they tried to capitalize on the Senorita hype though.
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 9, 2019 7:54:59 GMT -5
Havana was the more hyped one from the start. No, OMG was. OMG had higher sales and streaming initially. Havana didn't even break out until quite a while after release.
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Post by tinawina on Sept 9, 2019 8:04:21 GMT -5
I still think Shameless is the better song. Her team seems indecisive pushing Liar on Spotify and giving Shameless a video. Neither of them is doing amazing considering she has the number one duet on Spotify and Pop but maybe this will be a grower. I understand why they tried to capitalize on the Senorita hype though. I think the video for Liar is coming, they just staggered the releases to not shoot their wad so to speak up front. LOL I assume they are just going to see which gets the better reaction then go all in on one of them with radio after time.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 9, 2019 9:15:25 GMT -5
POP: -- 35 CAMILA CABELLO Liar 1429 0 1429 10.041
+189 Spins +189 Bullet +1.191 Audience
HOT AC: -- 46 CAMILA CABELLO Liar 169 0 169 1.438
+7 Spins +7 Bullet +0.044 Audience
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 9, 2019 10:01:19 GMT -5
Two singles at the same date is a disastrous strategy imo, especially here when neither of the song are on par what she has previously released.
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Post by dovahduck on Sept 9, 2019 13:53:25 GMT -5
Honestly they got lucky with "Havana". The dual single thing never quite works. Speaking of dual singles... I hate them so much, they remind of how badly handled The Weeknd's 'Starboy' era was.
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Post by Mike on Sept 9, 2019 14:18:42 GMT -5
Two singles at the same date is a disastrous strategy imo, especially here when neither of the song are on par what she has previously released. I actually enjoy both songs more than any of her previous singles lol
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Post by NeRD on Sept 9, 2019 15:11:17 GMT -5
The few times that I remember dual releases working well were If I Were A Boy/Single Ladies and Stay/Pour It Up. But those were different since they were catering to different formats while both of these songs are being sent to the same format at the same time.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Sept 9, 2019 15:17:13 GMT -5
The few times that I remember dual releases working well were If I Were A Boy/Single Ladies and Stay/Pour It Up. But those were different since they were catering to different formats while both of these songs are being sent to the same format at the same time. Shape Of You/Castle On The Hill also worked in the same way, Castle wasn't sent to Pop until May which ended up with both songs being successful. Ariana came close, I believe BUWYGIB was sent to Pop like 2 weeks after 7 rings. However that song didn't really blow up on Pop until 7 rings ran its course.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 10, 2019 0:41:58 GMT -5
Already has 30 adds, Shameless has 22 adds.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 1:05:44 GMT -5
I can't put into words how disturbing and disgusted I was at the vocals. Its half singing after inhaling helium and half singing into a can of tuna. I honestly haven't heard anything worse yet.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 10, 2019 1:07:56 GMT -5
I can't put into words how disturbing and disgusted I was at the vocals. Its half singing after inhaling helium and half singing into a can of tuna. I honestly haven't heard anything worse yet. That's your opinion, but radio seems to be loving the song.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 1:13:23 GMT -5
I can't put into words how disturbing and disgusted I was at the vocals. Its half singing after inhaling helium and half singing into a can of tuna. I honestly haven't heard anything worse yet. That's your opinion, but radio seems to be loving the song. No duh genius π₯΄π₯΄
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 10, 2019 1:24:25 GMT -5
That's your opinion, but radio seems to be loving the song. No duh genius π₯΄π₯΄ I know you have high standards for singers, not everyone can sing as good as Mariah or Whitney.
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