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Post by sabre14 on Sept 16, 2019 14:02:03 GMT -5
Artist: George Strait Single: "The Weight of the Badge" Writers: George Strait, Bubba Strait, Dean Dillon Label: MCA Nashville/UMG Nashville Impact Date: September 30th, 2019
Just sent to country radio -- second single from Honky Tonk Time Machine.
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Post by collinkottke on Sept 16, 2019 14:03:42 GMT -5
This isn’t “Some Nights”...
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 16, 2019 14:12:57 GMT -5
This isn’t “Some Nights”... That's what I wanted as well. "Blue Water" would have been my other choice. I know George and his team love the song and probably don't care about how it does at radio.
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Post by collinkottke on Sept 16, 2019 14:14:57 GMT -5
This isn’t “Some Nights”... That's what I wanted as well. "Blue Water" would have been my other choice. I know George and his team love the song and probably don't care about how it does at radio. That would have been my other choice, too. I’m not too shocked at this choice. They’ve been doing a social media campaign around it, so actually kinda surprised it took this long for them to announce it.
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Post by jacobl18 on Sept 16, 2019 16:42:32 GMT -5
They picked this over “Some Nights”....... I don’t get it
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Post by Naos on Sept 16, 2019 16:53:17 GMT -5
This is very meh. Liked "Every Little Honky Tonk Bar" though.
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Post by jacobl18 on Sept 16, 2019 22:51:00 GMT -5
This isn’t “Some Nights”... That's what I wanted as well. "Blue Water" would have been my other choice. I know George and his team love the song and probably don't care about how it does at radio. If they don’t care how it does at radio then why release it as a single? This is a real head scratcher for me. “Some Nights” is hands down the best song on this album and is easily the most radio friendly. “The weight of the badge” will not even crack the top 40 and imo isn’t even that great of a song. GS has been on this Kick the last few albums with wanting to be a songwriter and that’s fine but he should know that he isn’t where he his because of that. God & Country music would be a better choice then this. Someone at UMG needs to be able to tell George no.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 16, 2019 23:45:12 GMT -5
That's what I wanted as well. "Blue Water" would have been my other choice. I know George and his team love the song and probably don't care about how it does at radio. If they don’t care how it does at radio then why release it as a single? This is a real head scratcher for me. “Some Nights” is hands down the best song on this album and is easily the most radio friendly. “The weight of the badge” will not even crack the top 40 and imo isn’t even that great of a song. GS has been on this Kick the last few albums with wanting to be a songwriter and that’s fine but he should know that he isn’t where he his because of that. God & Country music would be a better choice then this. Someone at UMG needs to be able to tell George no. No song George releases will do great at radio. The lead single made the top 20 because it was new music that was unheard. I agree “Some Nights” is a better song for radio but it wouldn’t have taken off, unfortunately. They just like this song’s message and want it to reach more listeners. They can always release “Some Nights” third, maybe a solid run at secondary like “Goin’ Goin’ Gone” had in 2016. I think “The Weight of the Badge” will also do well at secondary radio. We’ll see how far it gets at mainstream, maybe top 50.
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Post by davidj on Sept 17, 2019 9:49:15 GMT -5
Talking of 'Some Nights' - would does the "some mothers" line mean? I can't understand it at all.
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Post by recordyear on Sept 17, 2019 9:54:45 GMT -5
Talking of 'Some Nights' - would does the "some mothers" line mean? I can't understand it at all. Motherf*****s
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Post by davidj on Sept 20, 2019 14:58:55 GMT -5
Ah right, thanks :)
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Post by dajross6 on Sept 27, 2019 15:18:24 GMT -5
Well, obviously the label doesn't care about being relevant. Because picking the least friendly radio single just tells you they want publicity for having a song with this message. I'm fine with that thinking, but a press release or video release of George with the San Antontio SAPD would do even more probably. Again, it's a fine song for what it is.
But also it's not Some Nights which is a shame.
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Post by jacobl18 on Sept 27, 2019 16:26:56 GMT -5
Well, obviously the label doesn't care about being relevant. Because picking the least friendly radio single just tells you they want publicity for having a song with this message. I'm fine with that thinking, but a press release or video release of George with the San Antontio SAPD would do even more probably. Again, it's a fine song for what it is. But also it's not Some Nights which is a shame. George wouldn’t even agree to be interviewed in Ken Burns for the Country Music documentary.....I doubt he’s doing any publicity for this song.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 27, 2019 18:36:14 GMT -5
Well, obviously the label doesn't care about being relevant. Because picking the least friendly radio single just tells you they want publicity for having a song with this message. I'm fine with that thinking, but a press release or video release of George with the San Antontio SAPD would do even more probably. Again, it's a fine song for what it is. But also it's not Some Nights which is a shame. Uh, you really think his label still picks his singles? I'm pretty confident that George Strait has control over what goes to radio, and this is obviously a song that he believes in and wants as a single. He's not in a position where he needs to continue to chase country radio success, and I don't think he cares anymore.
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Post by davidj on Sept 28, 2019 13:23:12 GMT -5
Well, obviously the label doesn't care about being relevant. Because picking the least friendly radio single just tells you they want publicity for having a song with this message. I'm fine with that thinking, but a press release or video release of George with the San Antontio SAPD would do even more probably. Again, it's a fine song for what it is. But also it's not Some Nights which is a shame. George wouldn’t even agree to be interviewed in Ken Burns for the Country Music documentary..... Why was that?
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Post by jacobl18 on Sept 28, 2019 15:01:19 GMT -5
George wouldn’t even agree to be interviewed in Ken Burns for the Country Music documentary..... Why was that? I can’t say for sure but he has never been one to do interviews. It’s a shame too because that documentary is amazing and would have loved to hear George’s thoughts on Cash, Jones and Haggard.
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Post by dajross6 on Sept 30, 2019 10:56:26 GMT -5
I believe he did the interview thing early in his career, then stopped when his daughter died in a car accident. Never really cared much to be public after that, which is entirely understandable. He'll still do things, but the last 25 years or so he is the quiet type. I agree it would have been nice to hear his thoughts about other artists in the documentary though.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 15, 2019 10:11:13 GMT -5
Nobody posted that this debuted at #56 on the airplay chart.
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Oct 15, 2019 10:36:55 GMT -5
Now just chart for 12 more weeks so King George can have a song chart in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s!
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 15, 2019 10:59:36 GMT -5
Now just chart for 12 more weeks so King George can have a song chart in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s! 1. If George Strait is lucky, it will take twelve weeks just to crack the top 50. 2. The decade of the 2010s will see Strait NOT having any #1 hits. Here For A Good Time (2011) and Give It All We Got Tonight (2013) peaked at #2. 3. If Strait manages a chart appearance in the 2020s, he will match the accomplishment of his contemporary, Reba McEntire. She has charted in five decades: 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s.
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Post by Jrod82 on Oct 15, 2019 15:42:13 GMT -5
Now just chart for 12 more weeks so King George can have a song chart in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s! 1. If George Strait is lucky, it will take twelve weeks just to crack the top 50. 2. The decade of the 2010s will see Strait NOT having any #1 hits. Here For A Good Time (2011) and Give It All We Got Tonight (2013) peaked at #2. 3. If Strait manages a chart appearance in the 2020s, he will match the accomplishment of his contemporary, Reba McEntire. She has charted in five decades: 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s. He also became the first artist to chart 100 singles on Country Airplay with this.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 15, 2019 15:44:33 GMT -5
1. If George Strait is lucky, it will take twelve weeks just to crack the top 50. 2. The decade of the 2010s will see Strait NOT having any #1 hits. Here For A Good Time (2011) and Give It All We Got Tonight (2013) peaked at #2. 3. If Strait manages a chart appearance in the 2020s, he will match the accomplishment of his contemporary, Reba McEntire. She has charted in five decades: 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s. He also became the first artist to chart 100 singles on Country Airplay with this. I just received the Billboard article on that in my e-mail. Two things: 1. I know it covers from 1990-present. 2. It totally ignores George Strait's chart appearances from 1981-1989.
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Post by bboat11 on Oct 15, 2019 19:02:12 GMT -5
He also became the first artist to chart 100 singles on Country Airplay with this. I just received the Billboard article on that in my e-mail. Two things: 1. I know it covers from 1990-present. 2. It totally ignores George Strait's chart appearances from 1981-1989. Well, according to my list of his singles, this is George's 100th single. If you took out his '80s singles, he would only have 73 singles!
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Post by Jrod82 on Oct 15, 2019 19:40:40 GMT -5
I just received the Billboard article on that in my e-mail. Two things: 1. I know it covers from 1990-present. 2. It totally ignores George Strait's chart appearances from 1981-1989. Well, according to my list of his singles, this is George's 100th single. If you took out his '80s singles, he would only have 73 singles! Unfortunately this doesn’t count his singles from 1981-1989. If you read the Billboard Country Update it says starting from January 1990. He has well over 100 if you count his singles from the 80’s.
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Post by bboat11 on Oct 15, 2019 20:25:09 GMT -5
Well, according to my list of his singles, this is George's 100th single. If you took out his '80s singles, he would only have 73 singles! Unfortunately this doesn’t count his singles from 1981-1989. If you read the Billboard Country Update it says starting from January 1990. He has well over 100 if you count his singles from the 80’s. So are they counting random chart appearances for non-singles, like "Stars On The Water" and "Texas" and Christmas songs and stuff?
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Post by jhomes87 on Oct 16, 2019 0:32:19 GMT -5
Unfortunately this doesn’t count his singles from 1981-1989. If you read the Billboard Country Update it says starting from January 1990. He has well over 100 if you count his singles from the 80’s. So are they counting random chart appearances for non-singles, like "Stars On The Water" and "Texas" and Christmas songs and stuff? No, you're right, George has charted around 100 singles on Billboard (Hot Country Songs/Country Airplay). I've got him charting 98 of his own singles, not including his three late 70s singles (which didn't chart), and also not counting 2016's "Goin' Goin' Gone", which failed to chart. His 99th charted single is as Kenny Chesney's duet partner in "Shiftwork". I'm not sure what people are counting for #100, unless y'all are counting "Forever Country", which was credited to Artists of Then, Now, & Forever. George also had five "B-Sides" chart from 1990 to 2004, but only two of them cracked the top 60. The other three charted but that's because the chart went to 75 positions back in those days. He's charted seven Christmas songs and 12 album tracks, although one of them (his most recent, 2019's "God and Country Music") charted exclusively on Hot Country Songs and not on Country Airplay. Out of the 12 album tracks, 11 were from Strait's own albums. The only one that wasn't was "Designated Drinker", a duet with Alan Jackson from Jackson's Drive album. Anyway, I've got George at 99 charted singles (read: songs released and promoted to country radio, and not including B-sides, Christmas tunes, or album tracks) on both Hot Country Songs and Country Airplay, starting with "Unwound" and going through "The Weight Of The Badge". This includes 98 solo releases, plus "Shiftwork". I haven't given any of the individual artists behind "Forever Country" credit for that song, because as far as I understand it, Billboard doesn't either. Billboard credits that song to Artists of Then, Now, & Forever...not the individual artists that contributed to the song. But that's probably where the discrepancy lies.
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Post by bboat11 on Oct 16, 2019 0:42:22 GMT -5
So are they counting random chart appearances for non-singles, like "Stars On The Water" and "Texas" and Christmas songs and stuff? No, you're right, George has charted around 100 singles on Billboard (Hot Country Songs/Country Airplay). I've got him charting 98 of his own singles, not including his three late 70s singles (which didn't chart), and also not counting 2016's "Goin' Goin' Gone", which failed to chart. His 99th charted single is as Kenny Chesney's duet partner in "Shiftwork". I'm not sure what people are counting for #100, unless y'all are counting "Forever Country", which was credited to Artists of Then, Now, & Forever. George also had five "B-Sides" chart from 1990 to 2004, but only two of them cracked the top 60. The other three charted but that's because the chart went to 75 positions back in those days. He's charted seven Christmas songs and 12 album tracks, although one of them (his most recent, 2019's "God and Country Music") charted exclusively on Hot Country Songs and not on Country Airplay. Out of the 12 album tracks, 11 were from Strait's own albums. The only one that wasn't was "Designated Drinker", a duet with Alan Jackson from Jackson's Drive album. Anyway, I've got George at 99 charted singles (read: songs released and promoted to country radio, and not including B-sides, Christmas tunes, or album tracks) on both Hot Country Songs and Country Airplay, starting with "Unwound" and going through "The Weight Of The Badge". This includes 98 solo releases, plus "Shiftwork". I haven't given any of the individual artists behind "Forever Country" credit for that song, because as far as I understand it, Billboard doesn't either. Billboard credits that song to Artists of Then, Now, & Forever...not the individual artists that contributed to the song. But that's probably where the discrepancy lies. My hits playlist for him has "Shiftwork" on it, so that is where my 100th song came from :) Plus I didn't know "Goin' Goin' Gone" didn't even chart, so that's one I counted as part of my 100. Since that one doesn't count, I guess I have 99 charting singles for him too.
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Post by bboat11 on Oct 16, 2019 0:47:06 GMT -5
No, you're right, George has charted around 100 singles on Billboard (Hot Country Songs/Country Airplay). I've got him charting 98 of his own singles, not including his three late 70s singles (which didn't chart), and also not counting 2016's "Goin' Goin' Gone", which failed to chart. His 99th charted single is as Kenny Chesney's duet partner in "Shiftwork". I'm not sure what people are counting for #100, unless y'all are counting "Forever Country", which was credited to Artists of Then, Now, & Forever. George also had five "B-Sides" chart from 1990 to 2004, but only two of them cracked the top 60. The other three charted but that's because the chart went to 75 positions back in those days. He's charted seven Christmas songs and 12 album tracks, although one of them (his most recent, 2019's "God and Country Music") charted exclusively on Hot Country Songs and not on Country Airplay. Out of the 12 album tracks, 11 were from Strait's own albums. The only one that wasn't was "Designated Drinker", a duet with Alan Jackson from Jackson's Drive album. Anyway, I've got George at 99 charted singles (read: songs released and promoted to country radio, and not including B-sides, Christmas tunes, or album tracks) on both Hot Country Songs and Country Airplay, starting with "Unwound" and going through "The Weight Of The Badge". This includes 98 solo releases, plus "Shiftwork". I haven't given any of the individual artists behind "Forever Country" credit for that song, because as far as I understand it, Billboard doesn't either. Billboard credits that song to Artists of Then, Now, & Forever...not the individual artists that contributed to the song. But that's probably where the discrepancy lies. My hits playlist for him has "Shiftwork" on it, so that is where my 100th song came from Plus I didn't know "Goin' Goin' Gone" didn't even chart, so that's one I counted as part of my 100. Since that one doesn't count, I guess I have 99 charting singles for him too. Wait, jhomes87 I bet they're counting "Hey Good Lookin'" as the last song to get to 100!
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Post by Jrod82 on Oct 16, 2019 3:12:50 GMT -5
Unfortunately this doesn’t count his singles from 1981-1989. If you read the Billboard Country Update it says starting from January 1990. He has well over 100 if you count his singles from the 80’s. So are they counting random chart appearances for non-singles, like "Stars On The Water" and "Texas" and Christmas songs and stuff? They are counting the non-singles if you go to Billboards website and look at his country airplay chart history none of his 80’s songs are in there.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 16, 2019 8:00:18 GMT -5
That same e-mail from Billboard said that George Strait has 124 entries on the H.C.S. (1981-present).
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