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Post by raylatch98 on Dec 30, 2019 11:20:03 GMT -5
Yeah "Drinking Alone" is at #35, 7 weeks into its chart run on Billboard. That's not a bad pace at all for a fourth single from an album by an A-lister.
Most comparable chart runs would probably be that of "Monsters" and "Blessings" (other A-list singles that are somewhat deep into the album era) and 7 weeks in this is where all those songs were at on the Billboard Chart.
"Drinking Alone" #35 "Monsters" #44 "Blessings" #40
So yeah, this song is moving along just fine. Is it gonna be the grand selling smash that changes hearts and minds and is Carrie Underwood's biggest hit since "Blown Away"? No. But right now the song is moving at a good pace so far.
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Post by Sugar Rush on Jan 2, 2020 10:36:59 GMT -5
Now that the holiday slump is over, how have her updates been?
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Post by taylor on Jan 2, 2020 13:34:19 GMT -5
Now that the holiday slump is over, how have her updates been? She's still at #37 this week on Mediabase as per the daily updates, but anything could happen between now and the next official weekly update. (For context--this week's weekly update moved her up a spot.) Thanks in part to the freeze, she's part of a massive heap of songs that have stayed put.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 10, 2020 20:42:36 GMT -5
I thought y’all said this was gonna be a career song for her.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 11, 2020 0:29:18 GMT -5
I thought y’all said this was gonna be a career song for her. Can’t help it if radio doesn’t play it... most of the singles out by women should be “career songs”, but radio is still a major part of creating hits and without them it’s virtually impossible. It’s only been out a few weeks especially considering the month of December is usually pretty slow for everyone. Still cautiously optimistic, but this era does kinda feel like it’s done. I love the song “Cry Pretty”, but “Drinking Alone” should have been the lead; as amazing as 2019 was, I think it could have been on a different level had the first two singles not “flopped” - relative to the rest of her singles discography.
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Post by Typo on Jan 11, 2020 1:39:24 GMT -5
She’ll never listen to fan reception again :(
This sounds so out of place on Country radio in 2020. I’m still glad she released it and gave us the CMAs performance, at least.
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Post by PerPlexied on Jan 11, 2020 10:07:11 GMT -5
She’ll never listen to fan reception again :( And she shouldn't, tbh. Ghosts on the Stereo or End Up With You should have been the radio single.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 11, 2020 12:07:48 GMT -5
She’ll never listen to fan reception again :( And she shouldn't, tbh. Ghosts on the Stereo or End Up With You should have been the radio single. Nah. Nothing to do with the single choice this time, imo. All to do with shitty timing and lack of radio support. This song has “smash” written all over it. There’s just no momentum and the era (pretty much when Garth’s name was called) was essentially killed.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jan 11, 2020 12:40:41 GMT -5
I mean, maybe it's just me, but I never thought this was gonna be a career smash for Carrie Underwood like others thought, the album has been out for an over a year and this song does kind of stand out for country radio in 2020 beyond just female vocals.
Despite that this song is still doing fine enough, as "Drinking Alone" should move up to #31 tomorrow night on Mediabase when recurrents are removed (Luke Combs, Thomas Rhett, Old Dominion, and Keith Urban), and so far this week Carrie Underwood has done fine as she has gained 121 spins and 427k in audience since this past Sunday. Like I said before, for a late single album for an A-list artist like Carrie Underwood, "Drinking Alone" is doing just fine.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 11, 2020 13:54:19 GMT -5
It's unfortunate that it's climbing as slowly as it is and not even selling all that great, either, but it should *at least* do as well as "Love Wins" in the end most likely, which while a flop by her standards, is not bad considering what a mess this album era has been for her (outside of the touring aspect). I love "Drinking Alone" and want it to do as well as it can, but I'm also over Cry Pretty and ready for her to just give us something new.
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Post by taylor on Jan 11, 2020 14:13:08 GMT -5
I thought y’all said this was gonna be a career song for her. This is country radio in 2020 we're talking about. Besides, as I and a few others feel, the era really did get thrown 6 feet under when she (redacted) EOTY to (redacted) on a night celebrating country music's women where she was not only more than entitled, but basically expected by nearly everyone in the industry to take it. It just seems like both she and the label have been like "k screw this" and decided to slam the era shut. Now as raylatch98 pointed out, it should be able to climb up to #31 on Mediabase on Monday. After only what, 10 or so official weeks on the chart, I think that's a pretty good pace, especially when putting the holiday freeze into consideration. I honestly think now that the label should've dropped DA as the lead in November 2018, while holding off on the album release until April 2019. That would've been an especially longer wait between albums (with "The Champion" as the one-off buffer), but just think, she would've been able to announce her pregnancy, single, album, and tour all at once. People (except for the media) would've have probably also forgotten about her fall by that time. Which means the era could've gone DA in Nov. 2018, EUWY for summer 2019, and either CP or GOTS for right now, with "Southbound" being a fun end-of-the-era summer 2020 single before the next album comes. I do think at least in terms of radio it was a mixture of bad timing and the idiotic LW single choice (it's a great song but just is not single material imo). Perhaps with Album 7 (coming this year; early next?! pls Lordt!), UMG will be able to make good on their promise to make Carrie Underwood an even bigger, global name. For now, the focus is about to be on Find Your Path!
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jan 11, 2020 14:18:14 GMT -5
This was never one of my favs from the album (would have preferred a few others been released instead), though still solid. Regardless, I still want it to do well to represent the era well, cause it is one of her absolute best efforts.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jan 11, 2020 15:08:58 GMT -5
I mean, I am gonna fault the label more for releasing "Cry Pretty" as a single than "Love Wins", "Cry Pretty" stands out like a sore thumb on country radio, and was way too long for country radio clocking in well over 4 minutes, not to mention it was a midtempo power ballad released in the spring of 2018. That song was such a mistake for a single, and especially a lead single. and unfortunately it also did not really connect well with listeners either from a sales/streaming front.
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Post by someguy on Jan 11, 2020 19:26:00 GMT -5
This and "Southbound" should have been the first and second singles. We would be having a different conversation if that were the case. That being said, this should still hopefully be a top 10 hit.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jan 11, 2020 19:39:28 GMT -5
I kinda wanted "Backsliding" ❤
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Post by someguy on Jan 11, 2020 20:30:15 GMT -5
Single releases can take up so much time.
1. Drinking Alone 2. End Up With You 3. Ghosts On The Stereo 4. That Song That We Made Love To
That would have been an equally successful album era.
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Post by 14887fan on Jan 11, 2020 20:47:47 GMT -5
Still one of the best single choices. Still one of the best single releases in her catalog.
Time for stans to start understanding that she’s at a different place in her career. To be honest, she’s above what’s on country radio today. God almighty I wish she’d just release something to Pop/AC.
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Post by Sugar Rush on Jan 12, 2020 1:05:53 GMT -5
Y’all also need to consider shes a female that’s nearing 40 and this is country radio we’re talking about. Call me a conspiracy theorist but those two factors don’t go hand in hand together historically speaking.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 12, 2020 10:03:13 GMT -5
"Cry Pretty" worked as a statement for the era and is great live, and in the end it performed ok. The real mistake was "Love Wins." I think a better second single would have improved on the performance of "Cry Pretty" and set up the rest of the era well.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 12, 2020 12:39:08 GMT -5
"Love Wins" was definitely where the era went southbound in a hurry, especially because they sunk so much time and money into propping it up for months past when radio clearly was over it. "Cry Pretty" underperformed in the end at radio by her standards, but it still 'worked' okay and every time she performed it live, it went over well. I remember they kept it alive on radio about a good month longer than they needed to as well, instead of just moving on. Also, it's unfortunate because hindsight is really 20/20 because "Love Wins" sounded like a hit. It never struck me as something that would struggle like it did for her.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 12, 2020 15:47:53 GMT -5
"Love Wins" was definitely where the era went south bound in a hurry, especially because they sunk so much time and money into propping it up for months past when radio clearly was over it. "Cry Pretty" underperformed in the end at radio by her standards, but it still 'worked' okay and every time she performed it live, it went over well. I remember they kept it alive on radio about a good month longer than they needed to as well, instead of just moving on. Also, it's unfortunate because hindsight is really 20/20 because "Love Wins" sounded like a hit. It never struck me as something that would struggle like it did for her. 100% with you on “Love Wins” I thought for sure it would do well - especially given the times we’re in. It’s also kind of an ear-worm and sounded really good on radio. Not sure what about it didn’t connect, but it really did seem like a good choice early on. I do think the lead single, “Cry Pretty” did its job and by most standards it was a pretty big hit; it performed much better than its airplay peak would suggest. Honestly this era had all the material to be absolutely massive, and for the most part it was. The issues came down to single choices and very weird timing, and of course overall lack of the radio support - which is something that never really was a problem before for Carrie. I knew Carrie would likely see the end of her radio dominance at some point, signs of that started during “Storyteller”, but I still thought she’d manage a couple top five peaks this era considering she had the momentum and overall industry support early on. We’ll see how “Drinking Alone” does - if they want it to break through I think she needs another high profile performance, but I don’t see that happening at least until the ACMs (if she even goes/performs) - but that’s a few months away so one before then would be useful, though unlikely.
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Post by taylor on Jan 12, 2020 16:14:10 GMT -5
"Love Wins" was definitely where the era went south bound in a hurry, especially because they sunk so much time and money into propping it up for months past when radio clearly was over it. "Cry Pretty" underperformed in the end at radio by her standards, but it still 'worked' okay and every time she performed it live, it went over well. I remember they kept it alive on radio about a good month longer than they needed to as well, instead of just moving on. Also, it's unfortunate because hindsight is really 20/20 because "Love Wins" sounded like a hit. It never struck me as something that would struggle like it did for her. We’ll see how “Drinking Alone” does - if they want it to break through I think she needs another high profile performance, but I don’t see that happening at least until the ACMs (if she even goes/performs) - but that’s a few months away so one before then would be useful, though unlikely. One can dream, but...there's also the Grammy Awards two weeks from today. I would think a performance there would do absolute wonders for this single. The ACMs roughly two months later would definitely help as well; by then I would think the song would be just a few weeks shy of peaking. Complete side note: I was on my way to campus for second semester when my local station randomly played "Southbound" in the middle of January! I mean I wasn't complaining but found it a bit strange lol
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Post by raylatch98 on Jan 12, 2020 16:42:09 GMT -5
We’ll see how “Drinking Alone” does - if they want it to break through I think she needs another high profile performance, but I don’t see that happening at least until the ACMs (if she even goes/performs) - but that’s a few months away so one before then would be useful, though unlikely. One can dream, but...there's also the Grammy Awards two weeks from today. I would think a performance there would do absolute wonders for this single. The ACMs roughly two months later would definitely help as well; by then I would think the song would be just a few weeks shy of peaking. Complete side note: I was on my way to campus for second semester when my local station randomly played "Southbound" in the middle of January! I mean I wasn't complaining but found it a bit strange lol Wouldn't she had been already announced as a performer if she was to perform on the Grammys? Also her lack of nominations for the Grammy Awards is probably why she isn't performing. As for the ACMS they are 12 weeks from today (April 5th) so that would put Carrie Underwood at 22 weeks and since "Southbound" took 25 weeks to chart and "Love Wins" took 32, I imagine the label is probably gonna keep promoting this at least through April if not all through May and into June. Especially since this is probably the last single and they are gonna probably keep promoting this song until the wheels fall off the wagon especially since Carrie Underwood takes her time making and releasing new music. As for "Southbound" being played. Not shocked, it's Carrie Underwood's last single and it hit the Top 5 less than half a year ago.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Jan 13, 2020 16:12:28 GMT -5
Normally I’m the one freaking out about chart runs, but honestly, Carrie is doing just fine. Is it ideal? No, but there are a few things to look at. This was released in early November, right before the holidays and the usual Christmas/January freeze on radio. Because of this, several songs were able to maintain their positions in the top 10 and go for the push once all the Christmas and Year-End countdowns stopped. Long story short, the top 30 is super clogged right now with maybe 3 or 4 songs currently dropping. Once things get back to normal, I’m sure Carrie will be sailing into the top 30. It’s just going to take time. You have to remember Carrie is on year 15 of her career and her singles aren’t going to just shoot up the charts at the speed that we were accustomed to in her early days. I expect that Capitol will be promoting this through the spring as I don’t think she’ll be ready to release new music yet. I’m hopeful for a new album in 2021, but until then, just let this song do its thing and it will be up there soon enough.
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Post by popwizard on Jan 16, 2020 15:31:21 GMT -5
"Cry Pretty" worked as a statement for the era and is great live, and in the end it performed ok. The real mistake was "Love Wins." I think a better second single would have improved on the performance of "Cry Pretty" and set up the rest of the era well. I agree, "Cry Pretty" worked as a great statement to lead off the era, and honestly some of the best moments from this era (aside from her tour) are her live performances of "Cry Pretty", particularly at the ACMs. I actually think "Love Wins" was a great statement song from her as well. I know that Carrie wanted to release that song, probably more than the label, it came from her heart, and I'm glad she did. That song inspired me so much throughout 2019. It's not all about chart success, but at least it went Top 10 on radio.
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Post by 14887fan on Jan 16, 2020 15:35:29 GMT -5
“Cry Pretty” was a good, smart lead single. After that, things went sideways.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 16, 2020 19:14:54 GMT -5
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Jan 16, 2020 19:27:56 GMT -5
We all knew that country radio was against female artists, but this infuriated me. Apparently it’s ok for radio stations to play 20 songs by male artists in a row, but god forbid they play two females back to back. I hope Carrie has a response to this. It’s disgusting and in 2020, this should not be a thing.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 16, 2020 20:27:15 GMT -5
I feel like there’s a potential lawsuit here, honestly. If this is true and actually is somewhat of a written rule, then that’s blatant discrimination, is it not?
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Post by taylor on Jan 16, 2020 21:08:52 GMT -5
This infuriates me to the highest f**king degree. I've been logging in and out of Pulse just to avoid having tons of notifications in my inbox so I just came across this and had to give my two cents about it. Wbk country radio has had a bigger preference for the men who all sound the same and sing the same damn kind of tiring tropes, but this is a historic low and it's quite honestly why I wish Carrie would just pull a Taylor or at least give a big "f*** you" to country radio by never releasing a single to the format again. What's the point if she and Miranda, or Miranda and Maren, can't be played back to back if they even get played?! And don't even get me started on the ageism. Carrie's nearing 40 and likely won't get airplay beyond maybe 45-50, and Reba was shunned 10 years ago, whereas George Strait is nearing his 70s and just scored a Top 20 hit. Like Kacey said, smells like white male bulls***. Let's face it, the women of country music (in not all cases but quite a lot) are more interesting and artistic than the men and country radio suits have a huge problem with that. As a fan of country music, I'm disgusted. Anyways imma continue jamming to my all-woman playlist of music
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