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Post by Top 40 Tracker on Dec 28, 2019 4:49:26 GMT -5
It's certainly different! But it does look a bit ridiculous when compared to last week's 2019 year end. To be a bit redundant here, that chart's #4 Sucker outranks #3 High Hopes which in turn outranks #1 for the year, Without Me. While #2 Eastside is left out of the equation entirely. They should have called this decade chart "Lots of Enjoyable Songs from The Past 10 Years". Also a song should not have to necessarily be a #1 to get on this decade countdown. The year-end chart is ranked by spin count, not weeks at #1. This decade chart was ranked almost strictly by weeks at #1 with the most obvious exception with how they came up with the #2 ranking. I agree with your last sentence. AT40 simply took the easy way out by playing the Biggest #1s of the Decade.
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Post by richie on Dec 28, 2019 5:07:03 GMT -5
I understand the different methodologies that we've been discussing, but the average listener might wonder what's going on here.
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Post by Top 40 Tracker on Dec 28, 2019 5:16:43 GMT -5
Here's how the HOT AC chart might look (true decade ranking listed courtesy of JUSTCHILLIN's exhaustive decade tabulations):
40. 79 Pink Blow Me (One Last Kiss) 2408 5w@#1 39. 73 Ed Sheeran Photograph 2451 5w@#1 38. 68 Maroon 5 Misery 2484 5w@#1 37. 60 Rachel Platten Fight Song 2550 5w@#1 36. 36 Jonas Brothers Sucker 2828 5w@#1 35. 9 Pink Raise Your Glass 3579 5w@#1 34. 5 OneRepublic Good Life 3743 5w@#1 33. 152 Robin Thick f/T.I. & Pharrell Williams Blurred Lines 1907 6w@#1 32. 115 Katy Perry Roar 2174 6w@#1 31. 110 Maroon 5 f/Wiz Khalifa Payphone 2218 6w@#1
30. 90 Katy Perry Firework 2344 6w@#1 29. 51 Shawn Mendes Treat You Better 2656 6w@#1 28. 33 The Chainsmokers f/Coldplay Something Just Like This 2914 6w@#1 27. 31 Zedd f/Maren Morris & Grey The Middle 2950 6w@#1 26. 18 Gotye f/Kimbra Somebody That I Used To Know 3193 6w@#1 25. 11 Bruno Mars Just The Way You Are 3376 6w@#1 24. 1 Train Hey Soul Sister 4533 6w@#1 23. 145 Taylor Swift Shake It Off 1951 7w@#1 22. 111 Adele Hello 2213 7w@#1 21. 92 Maroon 5 f/Kendrick Lamar Don't Wanna Know 2324 7w@#1
20. 54 Maroon 5 One More Night 2603 7w@#1 19. 38 Imagine Dragons Believer 2821 7w@#1 18. 22 Imagine Dragons Thunder 3136 7w@#1 17. 20 Justin Timberlake CAN'T STOP THE FEELING! 3167 7w@#1 16. 133 Kelly Clarkson Already Gone 2040 8w@#1 15. 128 Katy Perry f/Snoop Dogg California Gurls 2094 8w@#1 14. 100 Ed Sheeran f/Justin Bieber I Don't Care 2267 8w@#1 13. 34 Sia Cheap Thrills 2897 8w@#1 12. 27 Kelly Clarkson Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) 3042 8w@#1 11. 214 Lady Antebellum Need You Now 3129 8w@#1
10. 15 Lumineers Ho Hey 3308 8w@#1 9. 10 WALK THE MOON Shut Up And Dance 3445 8w@#1 8. 4 The Script Breakeven 3948 8w@#1 7. 78 Adele Someone Like You 2410 10w@#1 6. 52 Pink f/Nate Ruess Just Give Me A Reason 2654 10w@#1 5. 3 Ed Sheeran Perfect 4192 10w@#1 4. 13 Ed Sheeran Shape Of You 3329 12w@#1 3. 12 Adele Rolling In The Deep 3355 14w@#1 2. 6 Panic! At The Disco High Hopes 3630 15w@#1 1. 2 Maroon 5 f/CARDI B Girls Like You 4243 15w@#1
Honorable Mentions:
190 Maroon 5 Animals 1680 5w@#1 170 Pharrell Williams Happy 1810 5w@#1 123 Taylor Swift Blank Space 2143 5w@#1 95 Ed Sheeran Thinking Out Loud 2307 5w@#1 94 Justin Bieber Love Yourself 2314 5w@#1 83 The Chainsmokers f/Halsey Closer 2402 5w@#1
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Post by johnnywest on Dec 28, 2019 10:57:34 GMT -5
“Born This Way” was the highest debut of the decade I believe, which is probably why it was played as an extra. Probably means that "Look What You Made Me Do" by Taylor Swift will be played as an extra on the HAC show, being the highest debut there in AT40 history You are correct. Also, the tribute to Casey was really nice, going into “See You Again.”
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Post by chartgazer on Dec 28, 2019 12:17:38 GMT -5
This chart also excludes Party Rock Anthem, so yeah this is really not a very good chart. I couldn't agree more. That's a huge miss. This latest version at least eliminates some of the 2018-19 bias that I saw in other versions, but there are still some very curious selections that are ranked too highly in my opinion. I know there's a lot of star power in the song, but does anyone think "Telephone" belongs in the top 10 of the decade? I'm pretty sure "Tik Tok" was #1 in 2010. I also can't help but think "Uptown Funk" and "Stressed Out" (both #1s in 2015 and 2016, respectively) are ranked way too low here, but at least they made the top 40.
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Post by Arnold on Dec 28, 2019 14:01:04 GMT -5
What's the point of making a top 40 countdown of anything if it's not gonna be correct and accurate? Are they just making it the way they want it to be? Whatever method they use to make the top 40 of the week should also be the method they use for yearly and decade top 40's, otherwise it is inconsistent and incorrect information. If "Blurred lines" is the real #2, and they say "Glad you came" is #2, they are lying. It's like the weather report saying it's 30 degrees outside when it's really 90 degrees, because they don't like warm weather.
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Post by Top 40 Tracker on Dec 28, 2019 21:07:45 GMT -5
The weekly chart is based on spin totals by radio stations, the yearly rankings are based on spin totals by radio stations, this decade countdown is ONLY based on which songs spent longer at #1 over the decade with the exception of #2.
The problem with these types of rankings is that it excludes really good songs. For example, if a song stays at #1 for 10 weeks and another song stays at #2 for 10 weeks, should a song that only spent one week at #1 be ranked higher than a song that spent 10 weeks at #2? Most likely not.
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Post by superxpaul on Dec 28, 2019 23:27:44 GMT -5
What is the “controversy” you guys are talking about? I think the controversy was referring to “Blurred Lines”, which was omitted from the chart and was replaced with “Glad You Came.” Blurred Lines has some suggestive lyrics in it which wouldn’t fit well with today’s social climate, especially with the #MeToo movement.
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Post by Janhova's Witness on Dec 29, 2019 1:02:00 GMT -5
This chart is a hot mess 😑
The #2 song... embarrassing
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Post by chartgazer on Dec 29, 2019 8:01:38 GMT -5
The weekly chart is based on spin totals by radio stations, the yearly rankings are based on spin totals by radio stations, this decade countdown is ONLY based on which songs spent longer at #1 over the decade with the exception of #2. The problem with these types of rankings is that it excludes really good songs. For example, if a song stays at #1 for 10 weeks and another song stays at #2 for 10 weeks, should a song that only spent one week at #1 be ranked higher than a song that spent 10 weeks at #2? Most likely not. Well, it's not ONLY based on number of weeks at #1 (besides "Glad You Came"). For example, I didn't see "We are Young" or "Happy" or "Can't Feel My Face" on there either, just to name a few.
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Post by richie on Dec 29, 2019 12:22:39 GMT -5
^ Maybe they brought in Rick Dees and his dartboard as "consultants".
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Post by Fire on Dec 29, 2019 12:42:09 GMT -5
For last decade did AT40 do this exact thing?
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Post by Cerebro on Dec 29, 2019 13:29:06 GMT -5
Ryan, also, mentioned decade-end #1's on the other charts.
Alternative Rock: Muse - Madness (2012) Country: Thomas Rhett - Die A Happy Man (2016) Urban: Miguel - Adorn (2012)
And, of course, #1 on the Hot A/C version of AT40: Maroon 5 featuring Cards B - Girls Like You (2018)
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Post by at40forever on Dec 29, 2019 13:51:35 GMT -5
What was the #1 song of the 2000s?
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Post by Fire on Dec 29, 2019 13:56:31 GMT -5
What was the #1 song of the 2000s? Yeah by Usher.
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Post by Hervard on Dec 29, 2019 21:12:29 GMT -5
As much as I detested "Blurred Lines", it totally did not make sense that it did not make the chart - or even worse, that it was replaced by a song that only spent a pair of weeks at #1 (and wasn't even on the chart for an exceptionally long time). If they felt it best to omit "Blurred Lines" because of the controversy, how about bumping songs #3 through #40 up a spot and place another four-week #1 song at #40? That would have made more sense. If they wanted to include "Glad You Came", since it was the #1 song of its charted year, they could have, oh I don't know - played it as an extra??
Yeah, most of the chart did make sense, since songs were ranked by weeks at #1, but that was just messed up what they did to the song at #2.
Another question - I noticed that a few of the songs spent only 20-some weeks on the chart. Was there a recurrent rule or a chart purge at some point during the decade?
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Post by Cerebro on Dec 30, 2019 12:46:35 GMT -5
Just for fun, here are all the other decade-end charts from AT40 history.
AMERICAN TOP 40 - THE TOP 50 OF THE 1970S - JANUARY 5, 1980 Rank - Artist - Title - Peak Year 50 Sly and The Family Stone - Family Affair - 1971 49 Exile - Kiss You All Over - 1978 48 Paul Simon - 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover - 1976 47 Barbra Streisand - The Way We Were - 1974 46 The Partridge Family - I Think I Love You - 1970 45 Billy Paul - Me And Mrs. Jones - 1972 44 Elton John and Kiki Dee - Don't Go Breaking My Heart - 1976 43 Commodores - Three Times A Lady - 1978 42 The Four Seasons - December, 1963 (Oh, What A Night) - 1976 41 Olivia Newton-John - I Honestly Love You - 1974 40 Andy Gibb - I Just Want To Be Your Everything - 1977 39 The Beatles - Let It Be - 1970 38 The Guess Who - American Woman - 1970 37 Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive - 1979 36 Elton John - Crocodile Rock - 1973 35 Rod Stewart - Do Ya Think I'm Sexy? - 1979 34 Nilsson - Without You - 1972 33 Donna Summer - Hot Stuff - 1979 32 Captain and Tennille - Love Will Keep Us Together - 1975 31 B.J. Thomas - Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head - 1970 30 Diana Ross - Ain't No Mountain High Enough - 1970 29 Carly Simon - You're So Vain - 1973 28 Paul McCartney and Wings - My Love - 1973 27 Dawn featuring Tony Orlando - Tie A Yellow Ribbon 'Round The Ole Oak Tree - 1973 26 Johnny Nash - I Can See Clearly Now - 1972 25 Peaches and Herb - Reunited - 1979 24 Donna Summer - Bad Girls - 1979 23 Carpenters - (They Long To Be) Close To You - 1970 22 America - A Horse With No Name - 1972 21 Bee Gees - How Can You Mend A Broken Heart? - 1971 20 The Emotions - Best Of My Love - 1977 19 The Jackson 5 - I'll Be There - 1970 18 Chic - Le Freak - 1978 17 Wings - Silly Love Songs - 1976 16 Bee Gees - Night Fever - 1978 15 George Harrison - My Sweet Lord - 1970 14 Carole King - It's Too Late - 1971 13 Rod Stewart - Maggie May - 1971 12 Andy Gibb - Shadow Dancing - 1978 11 The Osmonds - One Bad Apple (Don't Spoil The Whole Bunch) - 1971 10 The Knack - My Sharona - 1979 09 Bee Gees - Stayin' Alive - 1978 08 Bee Gees - How Deep Is Your Love - 1977 07 Don McLean - American Pie - 1972 06 Rod Stewart - Tonight's The Night (Gonna Be Alright) - 1976 05 Gilbert O'Sullivan - Alone Again (Naturally) - 1972 04 Roberta Flack - The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face - 1972 03 Three Dog Night - Joy To The World - 1971 02 Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water - 1970 01 Debby Boone - You Light Up My Life - 1977 ** No. 1 Song of the 1970s **
Shadoe Stevens didn't do any decade-end shows during his tenure as host. Though, he could have done one for the 80's. Instead, we turn to Casey.
CASEY'S TOP 40 - TOP 40 #1S OF THE 1980S - DECEMBER 30, 1989 Rank - Artist - Title - Peak Year 40 Huey Lewis and The News - Stuck With You - 1986 39 USA For Africa - We Are The World - 1985 38 Boston - Amanda - 1986 37 Billy Joel - It's Still Rock And Roll To Me - 1980 36 Madonna - Live To Tell - 1986 Extra: Bill Haley and His Comets - (We're Gonna) Rock Around The Clock - 1955 35 Toto - Rosanna - 1982 34 Dionne and Friends - That's What Friends Are For - 1986 33 Huey Lewis and The News - The Power Of Love - 1985 32 U2 - With Or Without You - 1987 31 Christopher Cross - Sailing - 1980 30 Michael Jackson - Man In The Mirror - 1988 29 Madonna - Crazy For You - 1985 28 Steve Winwood - Roll With It - 1988 27 Richard Marx - Right Here Waiting - 1989 Extra: The Beatles - Hey Jude - 1968 26 George Michael - Faith - 1987 25 Rick Springfield - Don't Talk To Strangers - 1982 24 Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer - 1987 23 Phil Collins - Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now) - 1984 22 Madonna - Like A Prayer - 1989 21 Prince and The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy - 1984 20 Kenny Rogers - Lady - 1980 19 Men At Work - Down Under - 1983 18 Debbie Gibson - Lost In Your Eyes - 1989 17 Survivor - Eye Of The Tiger - 1982 16 Diana Ross and Lionel Richie - Endless Love - 1981 15 Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me) - 1987 Extra: Elton John and Kiki Dee - Don't Go Breaking My Heart - 1976 14 Prince and The Revolution - When Doves Cry - 1984 13 Janet Jackson - Miss You Much - 1989 12 Lionel Richie - Say You, Say Me - 1985 11 George Michael - Father Figure - 1988 10 Kim Carnes - Bette Davis Eyes - 1981 09 Irene Cara - Flashdance...What A Feeling - 1983 08 George Michael - One More Try - 1988 07 Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson - Say Say Say - 1983 06 Van Halen - Jump - 1984 05 Daryl Hall and John Oates - I Can't Go For That (No Can Do) - 1982 04 Blondie - Call Me - 1980 03 Foreigner - Waiting For A Girl Like You - 1981 02 Journey - Open Arms - 1982 01 The Police - Every Breath You Take - 1983 ** No. 1 Song of the 1980s **
AMERICAN TOP 40 - THE TOP 40 OF THE 1990S - JANUARY 1, 2000 Rank - Artist - Title - Peak Year 40 Roxette - It Must Have Been Love - 1990 39 En Vogue - My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It) - 1992 38 Madonna - Vogue - 1990 37 Sinéad O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U - 1990 36 Mariah Carey - Vision Of Love - 1990 35 Amy Grant - Baby Baby - 1991 34 Karyn White - Romantic - 1991 33 Vanessa Williams - Save The Best For Last - 1992 32 SWV - Weak - 1993 31 Bryan Adams - (Everything I Do) I Do It For You - 1991 30 Janet Jackson - That's The Way Love Goes - 1993 Extra: Elton John - Candle In The Wind 1997 - 1997 29 Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You - 1992 28 Boyz II Men - End Of The Road - 1992 27 Goo Goo Dolls - Name - 1995 26 Mariah Carey - Dreamlover - 1993 25 Christina Aguilera - Genie In A Bottle - 1999 24 Sugar Ray - Every Morning - 1999 23 Sheryl Crow - All I Wanna Do - 1994 22 Smash Mouth - All Star - 1999 21 Boyz II Men - On Bended Knee - 1994 Extra: Los Del Rio - Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix) - 1996 20 Alanis Morissette - You Learn - 1996 19 Chumbawamba - Tubthumping - 1997 18 Lisa Loeb and Nine Stories - Stay (I Missed You) - 1994 17 Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men - One Sweet Day - 1995 16 Aerosmith - I Don't Want To Miss A Thing - 1998 15 Seal - Kiss From A Rose - 1995 14 Goo Goo Dolls - Slide - 1999 13 Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life - 1997 12 Britney Spears - ...Baby One More Time - 1999 Extra: Ricky Martin - Livin' La Vida Loca - 1999 11 Sugar Ray - Fly - 1997 10 Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On - 1998 09 Ace Of Base - The Sign - 1994 08 Jewel - You Were Meant For Me - 1997 07 Dionne Farris - I Know - 1995 Extra: Blues Traveler - Run-Around - 1995 06 Real McCoy - Another Night - 1994 05 Savage Garden - Truly Madly Deeply - 1998 04 Goo Goo Dolls - Iris - 1998 03 No Doubt - Don't Speak - 1996 02 Natalie Imbruglia - Torn - 1998 01 Donna Lewis - I Love You Always Forever - 1996 ** No. 1 Song of the 1990s **
And, lastly, the first decade-end chart of the Seacrest era.
AMERICAN TOP 40 - THE TOP 40 OF THE 2000S - JANUARY 2, 2010 Rank - Artist - Title - Peak Year 40 Sean Paul - Temperature - 2006 39 'N Sync - Bye Bye Bye - 2000 38 Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body - 2003 37 Shaggy featuring Rayvon - Angel - 2001 36 Vanessa Carlton - A Thousand Miles - 2002 35 Evanescence featuring Paul McCoy - Bring Me To Life - 2003 34 3 Doors Down - When I'm Gone - 2003 33 Ciara featuring Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott - 1, 2 Step - 2005 32 Jesse McCartney - Leavin' - 2008 Extra: Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim, Mya, and Pink - Lady Marmalade - 2001 31 Nelly featuring City Spud - Ride Wit Me - 2001 Optional Extra: OutKast - Hey Ya! - 2004 30 Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around...Comes Around - 2007 29 Vertical Horizon - Everything You Want - 2000 28 Green Day - Boulevard Of Broken Dreams - 2005 27 The Black Eyed Peas featuring Justin Timberlake - Where Is The Love? - 2003 26 Rihanna - S.O.S. (Rescue Me) - 2006 25 Nickelback - How You Remind Me - 2002 24 Natasha Bedingfield - Unwritten - 2006 23 Nelly Furtado featuring Timbaland - Promiscuous - 2006 Extra: Nelly featuring Tim McGraw - Over And Over - 2004 22 Avril Lavigne - Complicated - 2002 21 The Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow - 2009 Optional Extra: Timbaland and OneRepublic - Apologize - 2007 20 Maroon 5 - This Love - 2004 19 Shakira featuring Wyclef Jean - Hips Don't Lie - 2006 18 Hoobastank - The Reason - 2004 17 Timbaland featuring Keri Hilson and D.O.E. - The Way I Are - 2007 16 Pink - U And Ur Hand - 2007 15 Mariah Carey - We Belong Together - 2005 14 Lady GaGa featuring Colby O'Donis and Akon - Just Dance - 2009 13 Kelly Clarkson - Behind These Hazel Eyes - 2005 12 Lady Gaga - Poker Face - 2009 11 Nelly Furtado - Say It Right - 2007 Optional Extra: Destiny's Child - Independent Woment Part I - 2000 10 Linkin Park - In The End - 2002 09 Fergie - Big Girls Don't Cry (Personal) - 2007 08 The All-American Rejects - Gives You Hell - 2009 07 Beyoncé - Irreplaceable - 2007 06 Leona Lewis - Bleeding Love - 2008 05 50 Cent - In Da Club - 2003 04 Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - 2005 03 Flo Rida featuring T-Pain - Low - 2008 Optional Extra: Britney Spears - Oops!...I Did It Again - 2000 02 Lifehouse - Hanging By A Moment - 2001 01 Usher featuring Lil' Jon and Ludacris - Yeah! - 2004 ** No. 1 Song of the 2000s **
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Post by shadster on Dec 30, 2019 13:35:47 GMT -5
Perhaps they orginially had "Blurred Lines" in the countdown at number 2, but before it was sent out to be downloaded to the stations, some exec's made the decision to not include it? thus a rush to produce a new #2 segment? instead of re-voice tracking the whole show?
Just a thought
ALso there was another mistake in the top 10 IIRC. Going into a break they ran a liner that stated, "The best of 2019, more next". Should of been best of the decade. Unless it was just my station?
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Post by musiciscool on Dec 30, 2019 17:25:13 GMT -5
Perhaps they orginially had "Blurred Lines" in the countdown at number 2, but before it was sent out to be downloaded to the stations, some exec's made the decision to not include it? thus a rush to produce a new #2 segment? instead of re-voice tracking the whole show? Just a thought ALso there was another mistake in the top 10 IIRC. Going into a break they ran a liner that stated, "The best of 2019, more next". Should of been best of the decade. Unless it was just my station? No, I think I heard that, too.
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Post by Top 40 Tracker on Dec 30, 2019 17:59:30 GMT -5
You can hear the 2019 mistake at 24:15 in my video.
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Post by johnnywest on Jan 3, 2020 11:47:41 GMT -5
It's certainly different! But it does look a bit ridiculous when compared to last week's 2019 year end. To be a bit redundant here, that chart's #4 Sucker outranks #3 High Hopes which in turn outranks #1 for the year, Without Me. While #2 Eastside is left out of the equation entirely. They should have called this decade chart "Lots of Enjoyable Songs from The Past 10 Years". Also a song should not have to necessarily be a #1 to get on this decade countdown. The year-end chart is ranked by spin count, not weeks at #1. This decade chart was ranked almost strictly by weeks at #1 with the most obvious exception with how they came up with the #2 ranking. I agree with your last sentence. AT40 simply took the easy way out by playing the Biggest #1s of the Decade. There are endless ways to rank the decade shows and no matter which one is chosen, someone will have a problem with it. It's likely that Mediabase doesn't have a way to tracking total spin totals over a full decade, which would present the most accurate list. It would include AT40's CHR panel from January 1, 2010 12 a.m. till their cutoff date. The list, however, would include songs like "Yeah!" which have consistently gotten over 400 spins every week over the past 16 years, and #5-peaking songs like "24k Magic." People would complain, but it would still be the most accurate. Limiting it to #1 songs only was a good idea in my opinion. R&R did the same thing in their 80s decade list (page 39): www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/1990s/1990/RR-1990-01-05.pdf
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Post by johnnywest on Jan 3, 2020 11:49:35 GMT -5
^ Maybe they brought in Rick Dees and his dartboard as "consultants". With a few exceptions, these were all #1s ranked by most weeks at #1. Ties seemed to be broken by weeks spent in the Top 40.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 3, 2020 12:01:20 GMT -5
^ Maybe they brought in Rick Dees and his dartboard as "consultants". With a few exceptions, these were all #1s ranked by most weeks at #1. Ties seemed to be broken by weeks spent in the Top 40. A few exceptions?
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