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Post by degen on Sept 15, 2021 15:12:55 GMT -5
Plus, even without music, Lizzo has very active on social media, unlike Meghan. I'm sure Atlantic will make sure the 2nd single is the right one. This may be true but one can argue Lizzo’s social media antics have completely overshadowed her music. This single tried to bridge the 2 together and it just didn’t click. She needs to come with something better or her social media antics will be all she has left.
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Post by divasummer on Sept 15, 2021 15:26:15 GMT -5
This song is either you love it or hate it. Well at least on this board. It’s probably like that with the general public as well. I personally like a couple of her songs but she’s not for me..
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 15, 2021 20:29:09 GMT -5
Meghan Trainor was multitudes more controversial than Lizzo. They really aren't comparable unless Lizzo drops something as questionable as Dear Future Husband.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 16, 2021 6:24:11 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Sept 16, 2021 9:41:30 GMT -5
I think they can pass this off as a promo thingy and be fine.
The long ass break was not a good idea but it is what it is.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 17, 2021 11:08:34 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 18, 2021 6:14:59 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 19, 2021 6:41:08 GMT -5
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Post by daddy on Sept 19, 2021 17:46:36 GMT -5
I think the issue is she’s playing too much into character and instead needs to focus on making good music, which she’s very capable of.
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 19, 2021 17:51:38 GMT -5
I think they can pass this off as a promo thingy and be fine. The long ass break was not a good idea but it is what it is. I disagree. If the long break were the problem, this wouldn't have performed out of the gate like it did. She has a massive presence on social media, so there really wasn't much of a break there anyway. People didn't forget her. The problem is the song. It just isn't it. Although the next single is fairly important. If it doesn't click either, she may be in trouble even with a strong social media presence.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 20, 2021 6:17:37 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 21, 2021 6:27:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 16:38:14 GMT -5
I think they can pass this off as a promo thingy and be fine. The long ass break was not a good idea but it is what it is. The problem is the song. It just isn't it. I actually think the song is really cool, I just happen to hate Lizzo's delivery on it. I keep trying to love it but her vocals clash with the production for me. The lyrics on Lizzo's verse are also pretty weak. Cardi's verse remains hot AF but that's the only part I really like.
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Post by Anticonformity on Sept 22, 2021 0:32:42 GMT -5
The problem is the song. It just isn't it. I actually think the song is really cool, I just happen to hate Lizzo's delivery on it. I keep trying to love it but her vocals clash with the production for me. The lyrics on Lizzo's verse are also pretty weak. Cardi's verse remains hot AF but that's the only part I really like. 100% co-sign all of this!
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 22, 2021 6:13:44 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Sept 22, 2021 8:34:11 GMT -5
It’s over
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 23, 2021 7:26:37 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 24, 2021 6:07:10 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 25, 2021 6:12:22 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 26, 2021 6:10:53 GMT -5
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Post by collin on Sept 26, 2021 22:50:34 GMT -5
Damn, pop really spat this out.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 27, 2021 6:16:45 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Sept 27, 2021 10:05:35 GMT -5
Awful
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 27, 2021 11:07:20 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Sept 27, 2021 23:18:07 GMT -5
"My records live in the top 10" - *song proceeds to spend a single week there and reaches top 10 on zero radio formats*.
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Post by Caviar on Sept 28, 2021 8:14:46 GMT -5
Cardio said HER songs.
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Post by Music Fan on Oct 8, 2021 1:19:11 GMT -5
This is not a good launch. The first verse is really bad -- I think we all can agree with that. The song does pick up at the pre-chorus, but overall just falls short. The highlight is Cardi, and even then it's nowhere near Cardi's best. I expect a decent first week and then a quick tumble and move to the 2nd single.This comment serves no purpose, except for the fact that I like being right. Couldn't even make it two months. Anyway, any plans on the second single?
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Post by Choco on Oct 8, 2021 11:33:33 GMT -5
This is not a good launch. The first verse is really bad -- I think we all can agree with that. The song does pick up at the pre-chorus, but overall just falls short. The highlight is Cardi, and even then it's nowhere near Cardi's best. I expect a decent first week and then a quick tumble and move to the 2nd single.This comment serves no purpose, except for the fact that I like being right. Couldn't even make it two months. Anyway, any plans on the second single? They're being really slow. I don't know if at this point it would actually be smarter to wait until next year. The combination of Adele and the usual Xmas songs mess is gonna leave the charts a mess for a while.
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