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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 3, 2023 17:18:14 GMT -5
This is giving ‘Judas’ to me.
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Post by 💙𝖇𝖎𝖑𝖑𝖎𝖊𝖎𝖑𝖎𝖘𝖍𝖋𝖆𝖓 on Apr 3, 2023 17:33:48 GMT -5
Hopefully this goes further
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 4, 2023 10:31:24 GMT -5
It would help if radio would convert some spins from 'Flowers' to this instead. Some artists can (and do) get away with multiple big hits simultaneously but Miley's never been at that level before; and even with 'Flowers' being as big as it was that still doesn't put her up there with the artists who can have two+ side-to-side smashes.
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Post by Jose Polica on Apr 4, 2023 17:33:37 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 5, 2023 5:49:28 GMT -5
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 5, 2023 21:48:49 GMT -5
I absolutely love this now. It's become my favorite track from the album and I personally think it's pop perfection. Me, during the second verse:
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Apr 6, 2023 4:48:05 GMT -5
Jaded should have been the second single.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 7, 2023 5:47:19 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 10, 2023 6:48:38 GMT -5
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 10, 2023 16:56:38 GMT -5
Radio pls.
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Post by avamaxstan on Apr 10, 2023 19:05:31 GMT -5
It's looking like this killed the era. Jaded would have been a cute follow-up hit to Flowers and would have helped sell the album. Oh well, at least she got the biggest hit of her career!
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Post by rnb on Apr 10, 2023 19:09:24 GMT -5
It's looking like this killed the era. Jaded would have been a cute follow-up hit to Flowers and would have helped sell the album. Oh well, at least she got the biggest hit of her career! the album came out just one month ago, relax lmao
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Post by avamaxstan on Apr 11, 2023 1:07:20 GMT -5
It's looking like this killed the era. Jaded would have been a cute follow-up hit to Flowers and would have helped sell the album. Oh well, at least she got the biggest hit of her career! the album came out just one month ago, relax lmao Lol it's 2023, eras are short now and the singles run typically ends not long after the album release.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 6:49:31 GMT -5
You’re jumping the gun. It’s too early to tell, the album _just_ came out. She has time to release Jaded, if this stalls. It’s not the end of the world, because Flowers is still doing it’s thing for the most part.
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Post by wjr15 on Apr 11, 2023 6:52:06 GMT -5
They could easily push Jaded in May or June, once River peaks. Flowers is still going strong. Artists can still have successful singles after an album was released, just look at Doja Cat, Dua Lipa, Beyonce, Harry Styles, Olivia Rodrigo
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Post by rnb on Apr 11, 2023 9:02:25 GMT -5
even recently, look at renaissance. the era looked to be over when break my soul freefell, but then cuff it went viral and did even better than bms did! so let’s not say the era is already over just yet
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 11, 2023 9:09:56 GMT -5
It's entirely possible to still have lengthy album cycles. Just look at The Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Doja Cat, and Harry Styles. They've all recently had albums where the 3rd or 4th singles were massive hits. (Save Your Tears, Levitating, Woman, Watermelon Sugar) Hell, SYT even had a flop released before it. And Levitating's two chart runs were divided by a single with middling success.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 11, 2023 9:40:47 GMT -5
And in Dua's case, the second run of 'Levitating' was followed up by another single that didn't exactly flop (although 'Love Again' was not the smash it deserved to be) and none of that got in the way of 'Cold Heart' hitting it big without Dua even hitting the pause button (and also, 'Sweetest Pie').
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Post by Jose Polica on Apr 11, 2023 18:04:21 GMT -5
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Post by avamaxstan on Apr 12, 2023 0:16:08 GMT -5
It's entirely possible to still have lengthy album cycles. Just look at The Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Doja Cat, and Harry Styles. They've all recently had albums where the 3rd or 4th singles were massive hits. (Save Your Tears, Levitating, Woman, Watermelon Sugar) Hell, SYT even had a flop released before it. And Levitating's two chart runs were divided by a single with middling success. Unfortunately Miley does not currently have the stature or power of those artists you named. All of their albums opened with massive numbers and multiple singles smashing at the same time that propelled those eras. Miley got a giant break with Flowers conquering the world out of nowhere, but it hasn't translated to equal interest in the album. She and her team didn't make smart choices to ensure Flowers' success translated to the era, like doing almost zero promo around album release, and pushing a sexualized synth-pop song as the second single instead of a song like Jaded that feels like a continuation of Flowers' sound and theme.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 9:13:43 GMT -5
It's entirely possible to still have lengthy album cycles. Just look at The Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Doja Cat, and Harry Styles. They've all recently had albums where the 3rd or 4th singles were massive hits. (Save Your Tears, Levitating, Woman, Watermelon Sugar) Hell, SYT even had a flop released before it. And Levitating's two chart runs were divided by a single with middling success. Unfortunately Miley does not currently have the stature or power of those artists you named. All of their albums opened with massive numbers and multiple singles smashing at the same time that propelled those eras. Miley got a giant break with Flowers conquering the world out of nowhere, but it hasn't translated to equal interest in the album. She and her team didn't make smart choices to ensure Flowers' success translated to the era, like doing almost zero promo around album release, and pushing a sexualized synth-pop song as the second single instead of a song like Jaded that feels like a continuation of Flowers' sound and theme. Yet her album is still in the Top 15 on Billboard. Again, you’re getting ahead of yourself. Most people didn’t think she’d have a hit with Flowers and it SMASHED. She still has time to release another single. Releasing an upbeat song after Flowers wasn’t exactly a stupid move, they wanted to change it up after, and with Flowers still hot, it was smart to save Jaded for 3rd, so it has its time to shine. The album also isn’t tanking, so things are going just fine at this point. If they dropped the ball after River, then yes, but I’m sure they’ll keep it going for at least one more single. It would be stupid not to.
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Post by wjr15 on Apr 12, 2023 9:38:38 GMT -5
It's entirely possible to still have lengthy album cycles. Just look at The Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Doja Cat, and Harry Styles. They've all recently had albums where the 3rd or 4th singles were massive hits. (Save Your Tears, Levitating, Woman, Watermelon Sugar) Hell, SYT even had a flop released before it. And Levitating's two chart runs were divided by a single with middling success. Unfortunately Miley does not currently have the stature or power of those artists you named. All of their albums opened with massive numbers and multiple singles smashing at the same time that propelled those eras. Future Nostalgia did not open with massive numbers or multiple singles. It opened at #4 on the Billboard 200 and didn’t reach its peak of #3 until her Grammy win one year later in March 2021. And she only had one hit from the album at the time of release: Don’t Start Now, which took months to peak. The same for Break My Heart and Levitating; both took months to peak. Planet Her only peaked at #2 on the Billboard 200 and the only hit on the album, at the time, was Kiss Me More. Her other singles didn’t smash until months after the album release. Fine Line did debut at #1 but the lead single, Falling, basically flopped. Adore You was released around the time of album release but it took a long time to smash. Adore You didn’t hit the Top 10 until it’s 15th week on the Hot 100. And we all know Watermelon Sugar was an even bigger smash after that. I’ll give you After Hours, since The Weeknd already had two #1 singles by the time of album release. Even though Blinding Lights became the biggest hit of all time, the follow up, In Your Eyes, underperformed and he was able to bounce back many months later with Save Your Tears smashing. Miley is in a good position to smash with more singles, I just wish she would promote them more. The only promo she did was that Disney+ special. She should be performing everywhere now, so it’s odd how she isn’t. Dua, Doja, Harry, and Abel were out there performing and promoting their albums for a good year, hitting all of the award shows and talk shows. Regardless, Miley is already in a better position than Dua, Doja, or Harry were in their respective eras.
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Post by avamaxstan on Apr 12, 2023 10:53:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately Miley does not currently have the stature or power of those artists you named. All of their albums opened with massive numbers and multiple singles smashing at the same time that propelled those eras. Future Nostalgia did not open with massive numbers or multiple singles. It opened at #4 on the Billboard 200 and didn’t reach its peak of #3 until her Grammy win one year later in March 2021. And she only had one hit from the album at the time of release: Don’t Start Now, which took months to peak. The same for Break My Heart and Levitating; both took months to peak. Planet Her only peaked at #2 on the Billboard 200 and the only hit on the album, at the time, was Kiss Me More. Her other singles didn’t smash until months after the album release. Fine Line did debut at #1 but the lead single, Falling, basically flopped. Adore You was released around the time of album release but it took a long time to smash. Adore You didn’t hit the Top 10 until it’s 15th week on the Hot 100. And we all know Watermelon Sugar was an even bigger smash after that. I’ll give you After Hours, since The Weeknd already had two #1 singles by the time of album release. Even though Blinding Lights became the biggest hit of all time, the follow up, In Your Eyes, underperformed and he was able to bounce back many months later with Save Your Tears smashing. Miley is in a good position to smash with more singles, I just wish she would promote them more. The only promo she did was that Disney+ special. She should be performing everywhere now, so it’s odd how she isn’t. Dua, Doja, Harry, and Abel were out there performing and promoting their albums for a good year, hitting all of the award shows and talk shows. Regardless, Miley is already in a better position than Dua, Doja, or Harry were in their respective eras. One place I’ll agree with you is the promo. Miley was promoting nonstop in the PH era, during peak covid. Now with the biggest song of her career, a new record label and a chance for a re-peak, she’s nowhere to be found. It’s perplexing tbh.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 13, 2023 6:29:08 GMT -5
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Post by avamaxstan on Apr 13, 2023 7:28:22 GMT -5
Time to push Jaded or Angels Like You quickly
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 11:55:43 GMT -5
I’d rather Rose Coloured Lenses, I think it’s breezier for Summer. But Jaded works too.
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