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Post by Daenerys on Jan 22, 2024 10:01:56 GMT -5
Curious to see how her fans are viewing this era? To me this era has been successful for her with Paint The Town Red and Agora Hills being on the level of her previous hits if not maybe slightly bigger than her hit average, however I do feel like she is going into a cooling down period or she's right about to hit that point.
I feel like everything she touched with her last two eras were hit after hit after hit, with increasing momentum and this moment with Scarlet was her cashing in on all the good will she accumulated since 2019. It also seems like she's sort of poised for backlash at any moment with a lot of her antics, unapologetic behavior, and combative attitude with her fans, and fan culture.
How do others read her situation?
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jan 22, 2024 11:14:03 GMT -5
"PTTR" and "AH" show she can deliver if she taps into what makes her such a steady hitmaker in the first place. She has an incredible knack for catchy melodies and hooks.
But the colder reception to the album overall shows that she's gonna have a tough time trying to sell a more challenging body of work and image. I think she could easily pivot back to a friendlier Hot Pink/Planet Her type of album. But if she wants to stay in this lane, I think a Scarlet level of success will be typical for her. Where she can land a few hits with the single ready tracks, but the rest of it will be met with a certain level of disinterest on streaming.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 23, 2024 11:12:59 GMT -5
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Post by katebush on Jan 23, 2024 16:32:10 GMT -5
"PTTR" and "AH" show she can deliver if she taps into what makes her such a steady hitmaker in the first place. She has an incredible knack for catchy melodies and hooks. But the colder reception to the album overall shows that she's gonna have a tough time trying to sell a more challenging body of work and image. I think she could easily pivot back to a friendlier Hot Pink/Planet Her type of album. But if she wants to stay in this lane, I think a Scarlet level of success will be typical for her. Where she can land a few hits with the single ready tracks, but the rest of it will be met with a certain level of disinterest on streaming. Paint The Town Red is going to be all-time classic, it is such a strong song, her strongest by far and Agora is lmost as strong but as an ear candy. She does not need the album to be so much successful. She has made top notch art, especially with those megastrong videos. I think PTTR is as good as any classic hitsong from any time period. What a great taste this woman has and knows how to deliver!
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 24, 2024 7:19:31 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 25, 2024 9:17:54 GMT -5
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Post by NeRD on Jan 25, 2024 19:29:21 GMT -5
Although I'd love to see them give Can't Wait a chance, I think this will be the last single from the standard edition.
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Post by JayBoozer on Jan 26, 2024 3:28:17 GMT -5
Although I'd love to see them give Can't Wait a chance, I think this will be the last single from the standard edition. I think “go off” is this only other song on the album with any hit potential
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Post by divasummer on Jan 26, 2024 5:35:14 GMT -5
This song is alright, but it’s not as catchy as much of her other stuff. I’m kind of surprised it’s doing so well at pop. Honestly I’ve only listened to it a few times so it may not have completely clicked with me yet. I could see the appeal with “Paint The Town Red” with the sample, but this song not so much. I’m also probably not her target audience so it doesn’t really matter in the long run for her. Lol
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Post by awwHALEnahh on Jan 26, 2024 5:42:50 GMT -5
Although I'd love to see them give Can't Wait a chance, I think this will be the last single from the standard edition. I think “go off” is this only other song on the album with any hit potential I feel like Can’t Wait, Gun, or Shutcho could easily work as singles if they wanted to continue to push the standard version of the album.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 26, 2024 7:31:44 GMT -5
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Post by rainie on Jan 26, 2024 17:59:16 GMT -5
i mean. do any of these other tracks actually have decent streaming ? at the end of the day i don't see them going particularly far unless the gp is already into them -- i can really only think of a couple recent examples of album tracks not having particularly impressive streams but becoming smashes upon being pushed (save your tears, levitating, spin bout you to a lesser extent) and the former two were assisted to various extents by remixes
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Post by Choco on Jan 26, 2024 19:02:15 GMT -5
I think this era is over after this peaks. There are no more hits on the project imo. No wonder the two songs that are actually catchy did well.
I hope she can tone down the annoying antics. She's way more talented than LNX but he just tanked his lead single for doing far less than what she pulled last year. And she can't count on Planet HER goodwill next time.
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Post by avamaxstan on Jan 26, 2024 20:03:56 GMT -5
Curious to see how her fans are viewing this era? To me this era has been successful for her with Paint The Town Red and Agora Hills being on the level of her previous hits if not maybe slightly bigger than her hit average, however I do feel like she is going into a cooling down period or she's right about to hit that point. I feel like everything she touched with her last two eras were hit after hit after hit, with increasing momentum and this moment with Scarlet was her cashing in on all the good will she accumulated since 2019. It also seems like she's sort of poised for backlash at any moment with a lot of her antics, unapologetic behavior, and combative attitude with her fans, and fan culture. How do others read her situation? Huh? The backlash was months ago, and the album opened with awful numbers. If anything, it’s starting to subside now.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 27, 2024 7:24:44 GMT -5
...I'm sorry what.
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Post by Daenerys on Jan 27, 2024 12:59:55 GMT -5
Huh? The backlash was months ago, and the album opened with awful numbers. If anything, it’s starting to subside now. I tend to think it's the opposite. I think her last two albums helped to position Scarlet and Paint the Town Red for all the success they've had. I'm a bit more worried about how her next project will fare given that the only new momentum going into the next era will be how strongly fans felt about this album. Doja had a lot more momentum going into Scarlet than I feel she has going into whatever her next project will be. I could be wrong. Maybe her next release will be packed with hits like Planet Her was.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 28, 2024 8:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 29, 2024 7:16:54 GMT -5
What.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 30, 2024 8:26:19 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 31, 2024 7:27:27 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 1, 2024 9:25:11 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 2, 2024 7:23:59 GMT -5
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Post by Envoirment on Feb 2, 2024 20:31:59 GMT -5
Happy to see this picking up on Pop again. Also looking forward to seeing how it climbs Urban now it's being fully pushed there (45 adds last week!). I think this has good a chance chance of getting to #1 on Overall radio and Top 5 on the Hot 100 which would be great!
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 3, 2024 7:25:27 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 4, 2024 10:38:16 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 5, 2024 8:20:31 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 6, 2024 8:38:38 GMT -5
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Post by NeRD on Feb 6, 2024 9:29:08 GMT -5
Such a tune. No reason why Urban shouldn't take this Top 10 at least.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 6, 2024 14:33:13 GMT -5
Loving how the updates swung back up. I am also so happy this wound up being successful. I was nervous that people weren't going to let go of PTTR and this is the better song, so yay!
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