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Post by ππππ on Feb 19, 2024 14:50:41 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of either song but I much prefer the remix.
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Post by HamedM1 π on Feb 19, 2024 16:12:32 GMT -5
Mariah kinda sounding like an AI did her voice on multiple parts of the remix for me so its a no, in theory it could've been hot but the mixing was not good.
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Post by Dylan :) on Feb 19, 2024 16:37:51 GMT -5
Three new remixes have been released on Apple Music/iTunes: Blessed Madonna, Jonas Blue, Felix Jaehn
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Post by Waveyβ¨οΈ on Feb 19, 2024 17:01:29 GMT -5
This song sounds great in the car wheww. Got more plays from me this weekend.
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Post by Khia on Feb 19, 2024 19:54:51 GMT -5
Kind of obsessed with the Mariah remix. I think Mariah sounds great (I was concerned after those Big Energy vocals...) and adds some needed energy to the song. My least favorite part of the original was the bridge, but Mariah's ad libs completely elevate it for me. They're honestly kind of hilarious, but in the best way possible.
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Post by ππππ on Feb 19, 2024 22:07:50 GMT -5
Top 10 . Looks like credit or not the remix did it's thing.
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Post by avamaxstan on Feb 19, 2024 22:10:01 GMT -5
Yeah itβs time for the next single. These are the type of lead singles that end careers without damage control. How is this is #1 Hot 100 song going to end careers? Whose career?
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Post by HamedM1 π on Feb 19, 2024 23:21:28 GMT -5
Its performance thus far is fairly parallel with something like Houdini right now, should be fine tbh since album release isn't far away but both songs chart performance in the US could point to the possibility that female pop songs may not be huge right now. Then again these are two dance-pop oriented songs, those generally have a history of performing generally much better overseas rather than stateside.
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Post by eagle27 on Feb 20, 2024 0:48:36 GMT -5
Yeah itβs time for the next single. These are the type of lead singles that end careers without damage control. Thatβs a bit dramatic I see people took this too literally. Popstars can lose their ability to reliably produce hits extremely quickly with a few bad choices. We saw it happen to Katy, Gaga, Post, Ed, etc who can still tour and get fans to support their catalogue, but the GP lost interest in their new music, specifically singles. Taylor was nearing this zone in 2019 (she verbally admitted this) but took 3 years of masterminding to get to where she is now. A lead that leaves the top 20 in a month for an artist that was pumping out hits is concerning but the era can be saved by a good single (Intentions, then Justice saving Justin after Yummy). It is not dramatic to infer that she could follow an unfortunate, yet established pattern and suggest she do something.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 20, 2024 7:38:24 GMT -5
POP: 11 11 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 8821 8618 203 24.056
+63 Spins +86 Bullet +0.090 Audience
HOT AC: 13 12 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 2706 2670 36 6.891
+5 Spins +6 Bullet -0.002 Audience
AC: 30 25 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 64 43 21 0.121
+3 Spins +4 Bullet +0.003 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 27 31 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 884 952 -68 1.170
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Post by wjr15 on Feb 20, 2024 7:39:57 GMT -5
I see people took this too literally. Popstars can lose their ability to reliably produce hits extremely quickly with a few bad choices. We saw it happen to Katy, Gaga, Post, Ed, etc who can still tour and get fans to support their catalogue, but the GP lost interest in their new music, specifically singles. Taylor was nearing this zone in 2019 (she verbally admitted this) but took 3 years of masterminding to get to where she is now. A lead that leaves the top 20 in a month for an artist that was pumping out hits is concerning but the era can be saved by a good single (Intentions, then Justice saving Justin after Yummy). It is not dramatic to infer that she could follow an unfortunate, yet established pattern and suggest she do something. No one stays producing hits their entire career. Every pop star eventually has a downtown in popularity and the ability to get hits. Itβs just the natural cycle of a musician. But this song is doing just fine. Ariana has a stacked discography of hits. Iβm sure she ainβt too worried.
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Post by Choco on Feb 20, 2024 10:20:15 GMT -5
Oh I was saying the same thing when Katy started underperforming. If you disconnect with your audiences for too many releases in a row it's a problem. I'd say this song was heavily carried by name and her comeback, kinda like how Chained to the Rhythm on paper was a decent hit.
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Post by wjr15 on Feb 20, 2024 10:38:19 GMT -5
Oh I was saying the same thing when Katy started underperforming. If you disconnect with your audiences for too many releases in a row it's a problem. I'd say this song was heavily carried by name and her comeback, kinda like how Chained to the Rhythm on paper was a decent hit. I totally get that. Katy didnβt really course correct until 2019, and by then, it was a bit late. Ariana course corrected with her next release after the tepid response to βFocusβ. Hopefully she does the same here, despite the fact that I love this new direction for her.
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Post by Mike on Feb 20, 2024 16:08:28 GMT -5
Performing this (presumably) on SNL on 3/9.
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Post by bat1990 on Feb 20, 2024 21:02:09 GMT -5
This label reactions video seems to point to that. They mention how "7 Rings" and BUWYGIM were bigger songs that TUN and were saved for later singles to sustain the era.
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Feb 20, 2024 21:13:47 GMT -5
This label reactions video seems to point to that. They mention how "7 Rings" and BUWYGIM were bigger songs that TUN and were saved for later singles to sustain the era. Oh Ariana... before the TUN era, I guess BUWYGIM sounded like a more obvious smash than TUN, but NO, TUN is a career highlight and break up... isn't even close (chart or impact-wise).
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Post by Caviar on Feb 20, 2024 22:05:23 GMT -5
Hyped!
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 21, 2024 8:05:24 GMT -5
POP: 11 11 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 8881 8624 257 24.162
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HOT AC: 13 12 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 2700 2689 11 6.874
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AC: 28 26 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 65 43 22 0.118
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RHYTHMIC: 27 31 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 886 935 -49 1.148
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 2:29:14 GMT -5
Just realized this bop has almost 200m streams already and will end the year with at least half a billion
So much for an alleged underperformance
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 22, 2024 8:35:31 GMT -5
POP: 11 11 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 8944 8592 352 23.990
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HOT AC: 13 12 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 2718 2696 22 6.951
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AC: 28 26 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 65 49 16 0.120
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RHYTHMIC: 29 33 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 870 924 -54 1.134
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 23, 2024 8:05:12 GMT -5
POP: 11 11 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 9000 8602 398 23.906
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HOT AC: 13 11 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 2755 2680 75 6.972
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AC: 27 25 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 62 54 8 0.118
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RHYTHMIC: 29 33 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 854 923 -69 1.108
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Post by Choco on Feb 23, 2024 9:41:48 GMT -5
I mean she's been a streaming force since like Dangerous Woman. She can do 500m and eclipse everyone else on that front and it can still be a relative underperformance. Remember these things are graded on a curve. If Kesha did these numbers she'd be celebrating, but if Adele's lead did these her label would panicking. It's all relative. Take out that first week where comeback hype got it to #1 (barely) and it's an OK performer so far but well below any of her leads since "no tears left to cry".
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 24, 2024 7:59:46 GMT -5
Wrong way. POP:10 11 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 8942 8682 260 23.378 -58 Spins -138 Bullet -0.528 Audience HOT AC:13 11 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 2756 2694 62 6.964 +1 Spin -13 Bullet -0.008 Audience AC:26 25 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 63 57 6 0.120 +1 Spin -2 Bullet +0.002 Audience RHYTHMIC:28 34 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 834 914 -80 1.083 -20 Spins -11 Bullet -0.025 Audience
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 25, 2024 7:56:44 GMT -5
JFC is radio serious.
POP: 10 11 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 8877 8733 144 22.980
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HOT AC: 12 11 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 2759 2698 61 6.993
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AC: 25 25 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 61 60 1 0.112
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RHYTHMIC: 29 34 ARIANA GRANDE yes, and? 835 906 -71 1.075
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Post by Choco on Feb 25, 2024 19:17:13 GMT -5
I'm sure the label's mad they can't drop another single until release lol. I think it might match positions opening wise because physicals are such a huge market today but streaming will be worse for sure.
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Post by mccloud on Feb 25, 2024 19:59:22 GMT -5
On what planet was Break Up With Your BF bigger than Thank U Next....? It made the Decade End Hot 100 lol. In Fact, 7 Rings was barely bigger than Thank U Next.
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Post by ππππ on Feb 25, 2024 20:13:05 GMT -5
This wasn't even on the same level as her other lead singles IMO and some of them weren't even worthy of their success. She and label should be happy at how successful this song was.
The vocals were sparse their wasn't any original or interesting. It was pleasant and easy to listen to but nothing drew you in or had you saying this is amazing.
Ari is capable of more. On to the next!!
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Feb 25, 2024 20:32:34 GMT -5
Eternal Sunshine already outsold positions' sales based on pre-orders, as for streaming - positions debuted with 174M streams, which is like 12,5M per song. The only reason why ES probably won't have more streams than positions is 2 tracks less PLUS intro (it'll have a big first day, but not really sure about longevity).
Idk, I'm confident it'll reach 200k, and IMO everything around 230k and more would be a huge win for her, since that would be Ariana's biggest opening after TUN (360k).
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Post by eagle27 on Feb 25, 2024 20:56:33 GMT -5
Eternal Sunshine already outsold positions' sales based on pre-orders, as for streaming - positions debuted with 174M streams, which is like 12,5M per song. The only reason why ES probably won't have more streams than positions is 2 tracks less PLUS intro (it'll have a big first day, but not really sure about longevity). Idk, I'm confident it'll reach 200k, and IMO everything around 230k and more would be a huge win for her, since that would be Ariana's biggest opening after TUN (360k). Had Positions not released on election week, it wouldβve done 200k. I think 180k-240k is a realistic range for her. Any higher would be impressive given the rollout. Any lower would be a concern.
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