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Post by Wave. on Jun 27, 2007 12:44:02 GMT -5
Chrisette Michelle for BNA.
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Post by Wave. on Jun 27, 2007 12:46:08 GMT -5
Chrisette Michelle for BNA
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 27, 2007 12:46:48 GMT -5
"Umbrella" for Song of the Year? Do you all mean Record, or do you really think it has a chance at getting an award for writing?
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Post by Wave. on Jun 27, 2007 12:51:51 GMT -5
It could.
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Post by RihannaFAN²=ColdUmbrella! on Jun 27, 2007 12:57:44 GMT -5
umbrella ft. jay-z -record of the year
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Post by K. on Jun 27, 2007 15:41:31 GMT -5
I wish Kelly had waited until after the deadline to release her album. She would have stood a much better chance next year after all this crazy stuff has settled itself and she has a hit (which she will).
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Post by Mike on Jun 27, 2007 15:48:34 GMT -5
LMAO @ "Umbrella" being nominated for SOTY. It'll probably get a nomination in Best Rap/Sung Collaboration at best.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 27, 2007 16:33:10 GMT -5
Amy Winehouse for BNA. Rehab for SOTY or ROTY (although that might not happen).
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Post by Pulse on Jun 27, 2007 16:58:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if Umbrella got a ROTY nomination, but it probably won't get one for SOTY. And I think they might submit it into Pop Collaboration instead of Rap/Sung
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Post by Chromeozone on Jun 28, 2007 8:59:48 GMT -5
Rehab : 2007 :: Crazy : 2006
So she'll be picking up some stuff for sure next year.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 28, 2007 12:17:25 GMT -5
i think BHC has a good chance at record.
amy winehouse is practically a shoe in for BNA; maybe plain white ts too?
i dont see that much love for kelly this time around....
hmm....maroon 5 could be big winners depending on their second single....
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Post by hotsummer on Jun 28, 2007 14:37:59 GMT -5
I think that Daughtry and Amy Winehouse will both be nominated for BNA and will duke it out for the win. Grammy voters will probably love Winehouse's novelty but they won't be able to ignore the fact (eventhough Grammies are not based upon sales) that a new artist on the scene may have BOTH the Calendar and Billboard album of the year which hasn't be done in a long time.
Should get interesting. Right now Winehouse has the edge but if Daughtry's next single "Over you" is the huge hit that TPTB think it will be, I think that Daughtry will have the edge.
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Post by JayBoozer on Jun 28, 2007 15:33:28 GMT -5
I think its too early to tell if Kat will be nominated or not. If Everywhere I Go gets released and becomes the huge hit it can and should be, that could get her a nomination. One of the best songs this decade, IMO. I completely agree... it's one of my favorite songs of the last few years.
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Post by hotsummer on Jun 28, 2007 16:39:28 GMT -5
Why do you think that RCA decided to release "Love Story" instead of "Everywhere I Go" after "Over It"? If Kat's "Love Story" doesn't take off, I doubt that RCA will release a 3rd single off of Kat's album. That may be it for her and the label may not spend any more money to promote a 3rd single. Thus folks will not get to hear 'Everwhere I Go".
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 28, 2007 19:13:03 GMT -5
i dont think daughtry wil win...i doubt even they will get a nomination for BNA...they arent original at all; they might as well nominate nickelback...
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Post by hotsummer on Jun 28, 2007 19:54:02 GMT -5
And Carrie Underwood is original? LMFAO!!! If the BNA was for the most "original" new artist than Imogen Heap would have won last year not Carrie Underwood. I think Carrie is very talented but she isn't any different from any other blonde Country singer out there. Nope it will be between Daughtry vs Amy Winehouse. Right now Winehouse has the edge but I can see Daughtry taking it as well especially if he gets huge buzz with getting Billboard album of the year and American Music Awards.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 28, 2007 20:24:18 GMT -5
carrie underwood is ALOT more original than daughtry -- at least i can distinguish between her voice and her counterparts (leeann, martina, etc...) when she comes on the radio; when daughtry comes on, the beginning is SOOO similar to nickelback/hinder songs that i never know what song is which!
and amy winehouse IS the best new artist this year. she has critical acclaim, sales, and popularity.
hitsdailydouble thinks its between amy and lily allen....hmm....
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 28, 2007 20:27:42 GMT -5
And Carrie Underwood is original? LMFAO!!! and on a side note, just because my avi and username has to do with carrie, doesnt mean i think she is the perfect singer! i never said carrie was original, so why even bring her up? jesus. i hate these freakin idol wars. just because one idol is mentioned doesnt mean the other one has to be, especially when the latter has NOTHING to do with the conversation.
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Post by hotsummer on Jun 28, 2007 20:29:24 GMT -5
What songs did Carrie Underwood write on her debut album? So much for originality. LMFAO!!!!
Hitsdailydouble did not say that its between Amy and Lily allen. It just said don't be surprised if both Amy and Feist will be nominated for BNA. Amy will be nominated and has the edge but don't be surprised if Daughtry with his Billboard Album of the year self takes the award.
Carrie Underwood was brought up because she won Best New Artist last year. Maybe you forgot or something. It has nothing to do with your so called "Idol Wars".
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 28, 2007 20:34:13 GMT -5
carrie cowrote i aint in chekotah anymore. and she is writing 5-7 songs for her upcoming album. just because you dont write songs for your DEBUT cd doesnt mean ur not original!!!!!
from HDD: (they pick amy to be favorite to win):
MTV'S FINE WINEHOUSE: Amy Winehouse's Universal Republic bow, Back to Black, is on track to become one of the year's biggest albums, and MTV has been right there since the beginning. Winehouse was picked for the net's Discover and Download program back in February, "Rehab" has been a mainstay in the Big 10 for months, and the odds-on pick for Best New Artist Grammy next year gave show-stopping performances on both 45th Street at Night and the recent Movie Awards. (6/20p)
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Post by Patches on Jun 28, 2007 20:35:52 GMT -5
What songs did Carrie Underwood write on her debut album? So much for originality. LMFAO!!!! Hitsdailydouble did not say that its between Amy and Lily allen. It just said don't be surprised if both Amy and Feist will be nominated for BNA. Amy will be nominated and has the edge but don't be surprised if Daughtry with his Billboard Album of the year self takes the award. Plz flopsummer, Nickelback doesnt get much recognition so thats probably why people wouldnt assume Daughtry would either.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 28, 2007 20:40:24 GMT -5
haha love ya wolfpack!
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Post by hotsummer on Jun 28, 2007 20:41:43 GMT -5
HDD has also said that Feist will be nominated so don't go by what HDD says. Amy who has only sold 700K albums doesn't and will not have one of the biggest albums of the year...LOL. HDD doesn't know what they are talking about.
Since the Grammies are 6 months away, who knows what will happen. Amy has the edge but I still think that Daughtry especially if he ends up having the Billboard Album of the year may take it from her. He will probably get American Music Awards as well, perhaps Best New Artist. There will be a lot of buzz around Daughtry in the late Fall because of those awards.
Right now my bet is on Daughtry.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 28, 2007 20:42:47 GMT -5
Grammies do not go by sales alone....if they did, mariah would have SWEEPED when she had her comeback....she didnt win any major categories tho...
my bet is on amy.
edit: and amy's sales are pretty darn spectacular for an indie artist....
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Post by hotsummer on Jun 28, 2007 20:50:14 GMT -5
Yep the Grammies are not about sales but buzz does play a big factor on who gets nominated and who wins.
Right now the buzz is for Amy Winehouse (cover on Rollingstones & Spin magazine, performed at the MTV Movie Awards, etc).
In the Awards Season time of the year, late Fall, Daughtry will probably get a lot of buzz because he will have the Billboard Album of the year (and perhaps biggest seller of the Calendar year) as well as other awards (AMA's, People's choice, etc).
I think he will end up getting BNA.
Should be quite interesting....
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 28, 2007 20:52:07 GMT -5
indeed....well i have a question......and this is a big IF question...
what IF jhudd had a HUGE cd and received lots of critical praise and everyone loved it...would she be eligible for BNA? cuz she seems to have the industry wrapped up in her pinky! lol
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Post by hotsummer on Jun 28, 2007 20:54:35 GMT -5
Very true. JHudd could be nominated as well if her CD is released before October 1st, it sells, and gets critical acclaim.
This year's Grammies should be very exciting particularly since it is the 50th Annual one.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jun 28, 2007 20:56:16 GMT -5
I think Chris Daughtry and his band have a chance at getting nominated for BNA, but don't think they'll win for a few reasons.
With the BNA category, the Grammys tend to go back and forth between more mainstream/commercial winners and more adult alternative winners who haven't necessarily taken over the mainstream. Carrie was a mainstream winner -- a widely acknowledged vocal talent who put out a well-regarded and commercially huge album, who was also THE story in her genre of music. Also, a number of journalists assessing the BNA race felt that longevity considerations favored Carrie. This year, I expect the pendulum to swing back towards a more alternative artist getting some mainstream attention, and Amy Winehouse would be the runaway favorite.
It'll be cool to see Chrisette Michelle and Feist getting into the mix, too. Daughtry's commercial success may help it gain a BNA nod, but after a mainstream BNA winner last year, I don't think it will help them get a win.
I tend to doubt that NARAS will be keen on awarding two AI alumni in a row, out of concern that it might be seen as overrewarding the franchise. The only possible exception to that that I can imagine is if the AI alumni in question is Jennifer Hudson. Speaking of whom, it is often instructive to see who gets the new artist performance slot at Clive Davis' pre-Grammy party -- as that is indicative of the priority new artist in the BMG family. This past year, that slot went to Jennifer Hudson.
Chris Daughtry and his band might be held back by the fact that the band didn't play on the album. Another thing that might play against them? NARAS hasn't shown much love for the Nickelclone sound -- Nickelback was completely shut out of the nominations last year, for example. The Nickelclone sound isn't one that inspires a lot of critical love in general (something that the Daughtry album's reviews reflect), and that might hurt the band's chances at winning BNA, as well.
I can actually easily see Chris Daughtry and his band getting shut out of the BNA category altogether. But "It's Not Over" or "Home" might get into the ROTY category (again, with little to no chance of a win).
Like most others here, I'm expecting to see a lot of "Rehab"/Amy Winehouse in the General Field categories. If it's submitted, I can see BHC taking the country slot in the ROTY and/or SOTY categories. Is Justin going to have a presence in ROTY this year? Is "Say It Right" eligible? I'll be a little surprised if NARAS nods Rihanna over Nelly Furtado, given its history. Pink's resurgence might give her a chance in ROTY, as well, though I expect her to be more of a factor in the Pop field.
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Post by hotsummer on Jun 28, 2007 21:34:08 GMT -5
Looking at your argument, let's see who has won the awards for Best New Artist over the last few years
2007: Carrie Underwood (Mainstream and had the Billboard Album of the year)
2006: John Legend (Mainstream)
2005: Maroon 5 (Mainstream and had one of the biggest albums of the year)
2004: Evanescence (Mainstream and had one of the biggest albums of the year in terms of sales)
2003: Norah Jones (Indie and had one of the biggest albums of the year in terms of sales)
2002: Alicia keys (Mainstream and had one of the biggest albums of the year in terms of sales)
2001: Shelby Lynne (Indie)
2000: Christina Aguilera (Mainstream)
1999: Lauryn Hill (Mainstream and had one of the biggest albums of the year in terms of sales)
1998: Paula Cole (Indie)
1997: LeAnn Rimes (Mainstream)
1996: Hootie & the Blowfish (Mainstream and had one of the biggest selling albums of the year)
1995: Sheryl Crow (Mainstream)
1994: Toni Braxton (Mainstream)
1993: Arrested Development (Indie)
1992: Marc Cohn (Indie)
1991: Mariah Carey (Mainstream)
Thus in the last 2 decades the vast majority of the Best New Artists have not only been "Mainstream" but have had one of the biggest selling albums of their respective years. True that the Grammies aren't about sales but the reality is that sales do bring buzz.
Thus the "Indie one year followed by Mainstream the next year" argument doesn't appear to be happening.
Who knows what the Grammy voters think: If the Black Eye Peas' "My Humps" song won a Grammy, IMO, ANYTHING is possible...LOL!
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Post by hotsummer on Jun 28, 2007 21:44:49 GMT -5
Since the Daughtry band members didn't record on the Daughtry album, perhaps SonyBMG will only introduce Chris Daughtry's name for consideration for a Grammy. He did write or co-write most of his album, unlike last year's winner and his song "Home" has already received a songwriter's award.
I wouldn't count him out for a nomination for BNA and he may even win.
Besides the Grammies are 6 months away. Who knows what will happen in these next months. Other new artists that we are not aware of could release albums (ie JHudd). Winehouse may become a multi-platinum album seller by then giving her more of an edge. Daughtry's next song "Over You" could be a mega-hit that can't be denied, etc.
Many things could happen.
We shall see....
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