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Post by popmusicaddict on Nov 11, 2007 0:06:50 GMT -5
Hardly. Just because the music is louder doesn't mean it is better. i didnt even talk about how loud the music was. You look at the pop catagory this year and you look at the rock catagory this year the pop catagory is weaker. Theres a lot better rock artist than pop. but i guess its a matter of opinion and what u consider rock and pop. but all i know is that Kelly ISNT rock, she is POP. thats her main audience. if her music gets played on radio its on Top 40 or a pop radio. now thats a fact not an opinion. Actually 'Never Again' was played more on Modern AC (Hot AC) than it was on CHR/Pop, peaking at #11 (how ironic it just missed top 10 like it just missed top 20 on mainstream). The 'Hot AC' format is 'Adult Alternative / Modern AC'. Not defending her obvious screw job by the submissions to the rock genre, just stating its not a FACT that Kelly is only a pop artist. Infact in 2006 when she continued her radio queen reign on all formats, she was played more heavily by the adult formats and was listed as Pop-Alternative example in music surveys rather than a Top 40 Mainstream artist.
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Post by Adz on Nov 11, 2007 3:40:11 GMT -5
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Post by neally on Nov 11, 2007 3:54:55 GMT -5
Thank you very much, adz ! I just found this gem on youtube: youtube.com/watch?v=zVMa_erdSpUSeriously- this is a total vocal masterclass, where virtually every facet of the singing voice from chest voice to head voice to falsetto to spectacular range is utilized in perfection. The 'wake up' part of the song (at 2:26) always induces some serious chills on me....sounds like an dream, a sound rarely able to be replicated by even top-notch vocalists.
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Post by gunner on Nov 11, 2007 6:34:02 GMT -5
That was,... beautiful,..
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Post by summer on Nov 11, 2007 9:30:44 GMT -5
i didnt even talk about how loud the music was. You look at the pop catagory this year and you look at the rock catagory this year the pop catagory is weaker. Theres a lot better rock artist than pop. but i guess its a matter of opinion and what u consider rock and pop. but all i know is that Kelly ISNT rock, she is POP. thats her main audience. if her music gets played on radio its on Top 40 or a pop radio. now thats a fact not an opinion. Actually 'Never Again' was played more on Modern AC (Hot AC) than it was on CHR/Pop, peaking at #11 (how ironic it just missed top 10 like it just missed top 20 on mainstream). The 'Hot AC' format is 'Adult Alternative / Modern AC'. Not defending her obvious screw job by the submissions to the rock genre, just stating its not a FACT that Kelly is only a pop artist. Infact in 2006 when she continued her radio queen reign on all formats, she was played more heavily by the adult formats and was listed as Pop-Alternative example in music surveys rather than a Top 40 Mainstream artist. I get what ur saying and what ur saying is true. but kelly HERSELF has never catagorized herself as anything other than pop.
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Post by SILENCE on Nov 11, 2007 10:28:54 GMT -5
I know people are angry at Kelly being submitted in the Rock category but the way I see it is it's a compliment of sorts. Rock is known for being more "artistic" than Pop. Rock artists usually write their own materials v. Pop artists who have their material written for them. Rock is more dark more personal, more raw and that is exactly what MD is. Now mind you MD isn't Ozzy that's for sure but it's certainly in the same vein as other current "rock" acts IMO. Do I think she'll get a nomination? probably not. But she wouldn't have gotten one in Pop either IMO.
to address the person who said Kelly keeps saying she wants to be Rock, please provide links to those remarks but I read almost every Kelly interview and Kelly has never said she's anything other than a Pop artist.
That performance of Sober was beautiful!
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Post by **βécky**™ on Nov 11, 2007 16:24:28 GMT -5
is there any truth to this?
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Post by Good-Boy-Gone-Bad on Nov 11, 2007 16:56:50 GMT -5
That sounds fake to me but it would be awesome if it was true.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Nov 11, 2007 18:52:15 GMT -5
^ As awful as it would be for Kelly to have to crawl back to those producers in order for her to sell, I would love it at the same time. It's probably not true since she's been touring since last month and she'll start the European leg of the tour in March 2008. That would give her 3-ish months for her to record the album and releasing it in the 2nd quarter seems wayy too soon since that timeframe is too small.
BeX, where did you find that?
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Post by **βécky**™ on Nov 11, 2007 19:12:38 GMT -5
^ As awful as it would be for Kelly to have to crawl back to those producers in order for her to sell, I would love it at the same time. It's probably not true since she's been touring since last month and she'll start the European leg of the tour in March 2008. That would give her 3-ish months for her to record the album and releasing it in the 2nd quarter seems wayy too soon since that timeframe is too small. BeX, where did you find that? Soundloaded forums. It screams FAKE.But i though i would post it! .
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Post by Focus on Nov 11, 2007 20:20:15 GMT -5
That's old news from July 2007. Kelly confirmed that it wasn't true back then.
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Post by **βécky**™ on Nov 11, 2007 20:21:12 GMT -5
That's old news from July 2007. Kelly confirmed that it wasn't true back then. Thx for clearing that up!
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Post by ƒreakshow on Nov 11, 2007 20:56:31 GMT -5
That's old news from July 2007. Kelly confirmed that it wasn't true back then. Yeah I remember there being an article about that and the KCE went crazy. But I don't think it mentioned the producers she was supposedly working with. here's the article if anyone doesn't remember it www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291060,00.html That writer is notorious for bashing Kelly and hating on her
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Post by Focus on Nov 11, 2007 21:43:55 GMT -5
Supposedly he's Clive"s mouthpiece.
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Post by SILENCE on Nov 13, 2007 7:09:24 GMT -5
I can't imagine Kelly rushing into the studio and just recording whatever is handed to her and that's how that article makes it sound. I can't see Kelly releasing a new album until maybe 2009 or late late 2008.
I would love to see what a song with her and Timbaland would sound like LOL
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Post by Berry on Nov 13, 2007 7:17:02 GMT -5
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Post by Focus on Nov 13, 2007 9:17:19 GMT -5
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Post by SILENCE on Nov 13, 2007 17:26:16 GMT -5
Kelly gets some pretty big named celebrites at her shows!! That's so cool!
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Post by tec0o on Nov 13, 2007 19:06:05 GMT -5
That's old news from July 2007. Kelly confirmed that it wasn't true back then. Yeah I remember there being an article about that and the KCE went crazy. But I don't think it mentioned the producers she was supposedly working with. here's the article if anyone doesn't remember it www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291060,00.html That writer is notorious for bashing Kelly and hating on her maybe this's true(the news about narvel confirming somethin). 'cause this thing about new album come before narvel been the new manager, no? of course this rumor come later again... but... who knows ? :T
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Post by SILENCE on Nov 13, 2007 19:47:18 GMT -5
Kelly's US tour ends at the beginning of December, I'm fairly certain she's said she's taking her family on vacation again this year for the holidays, which puts her into the first of the year and then her Australian/Euro tour starts at the beginning of March, so that begs the question, when exactly would Kelly have time to record new songs, even ones that are supposedly hand picked for her by Clive?
I think this rumor is more BS wishful thinking...
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Post by TeddyR on Nov 13, 2007 22:06:36 GMT -5
If the songs are already picked, she would only have to spend 2-3 weeks in the studio doing vocals.
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Post by SILENCE on Nov 14, 2007 7:19:33 GMT -5
^^^ Do you really think Kelly is actually going to just LET Clive pick songs for her without any say at all? She has no reason to do that, regardless of how MD sold. Heck she didn't even do that with Thankful and she hadn't sold one album yet at that point. I just don't see it happening but I guess time will tell.
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Post by Focus on Nov 14, 2007 11:45:08 GMT -5
I agree with you silence. I don't think it's in Kelly's character to just settle. I imagine she'll be fighting for all she's worth to get songs that she believes in on the next album, whether she's written them or not.
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Post by kcchica on Nov 14, 2007 15:09:18 GMT -5
oh, so excited that i found this thread! new here and this feels like home! so hi everybody!!!!
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Post by Focus on Nov 14, 2007 15:11:55 GMT -5
hey chica!!
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 14, 2007 17:43:41 GMT -5
USAToday.com:
Kelly's My December also sold 3,000, down a little from last week, for a total of 694,000. Breakaway also sold 3,000 and is at 5.88 million.
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Post by Patches on Nov 14, 2007 17:59:00 GMT -5
oh, so excited that i found this thread! new here and this feels like home! so hi everybody!!!! Welcome kc, and must I say your avi is so hot.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Nov 14, 2007 19:02:07 GMT -5
I agree with you silence. I don't think it's in Kelly's character to just settle. I imagine she'll be fighting for all she's worth to get songs that she believes in on the next album, whether she's written them or not. Oh definitely. I think she will still have a large amount of creative influence on her future albums, whether or not Clive is dictating the content. She won't let Clive just pick some random songs and throw them on the album, if there was a song that Kelly didn't approve of, I don't think she would allow it's inclusion on the album.
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Post by Berry on Nov 14, 2007 19:03:02 GMT -5
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Post by Mike on Nov 14, 2007 19:17:53 GMT -5
Err... I don't know how true that is. How is it that a local news station would know all this information and mass media sources haven't reported anything?
And ??? @ "McEntire's first No. 1 on the pop chart." Huh?
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