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Post by George on Aug 6, 2014 14:51:53 GMT -5
2004 is when things seemed to go wrong.
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Post by ILLUSION on Aug 6, 2014 15:56:57 GMT -5
It's pretty pathetic that she only releases s**t whenever there is controversy between her and Nicki and she tries to ride the buzz off it, and she continues to dwell on this Nicki s**t. It's actually pretty sad. She can't release a single thing without making a Nicki diss in some way, whether it's in a song itself or now the album artwork.
Also, that's the best Lil Kim could do on the ***Flawless remix? Really?
NO ONE is here for new music from her while Nicki stays slaying and she tries to bring Nicki down. Maybe one day she'll finally get over it and release DECENT music for once and people might actually give a shit about her again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 16:16:50 GMT -5
A lot of the times when Kim looks rough, it's because of her make-up artist, not her facial work. Without make-up, she doesn't look too different from how she looked in 2004. I agree the diss is petty (although it's not a bad song), but at this point, I'm past wanting/caring about a new project from her. She's an industry icon and she truly birthed Nicki's career (let's not pretend like there is NO basis as to why she feels upset, as petty and late as she is) so it doesn't bother me either way really. She was the undisputed Queen of Rap for 10 years, helped shape sexual politics in hip hop and music as a whole, worked as a fashion muse for the top designers in the world, was critically acclaimed and commercially successful and released 4 incredible albums, including a hip hop classic. Her surgery and throwing diss tracks at Nicki doesn't take that away.
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Post by ILLUSION on Aug 6, 2014 16:39:17 GMT -5
throwing diss tracks at Nicki doesn't take that away. Are you sure? Because I hear screams of desperation. I also don't agree that she "birthed" Nicki's career. She wasn't the FIRST female rapper ever. She may have been the first huge and successful one but she's not original in that sense. I don't think Nicki owes any credit to her, personally. There are plenty of other female rappers right now trying to make it. She may have "paved the way" for Nicki but I do not agree that she birthed her career.
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Post by Hashtag Pow on Aug 6, 2014 17:51:01 GMT -5
That single cover is hilarious. Kim did that.
The song is actually hot. The cover is gonna distract from that. She sounds like classic Kim on the song.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 21:18:21 GMT -5
How the fuck is she gonna diss Nicki for stealing her identity when she's been fucking 77 different people since '99? There is so much WRONG with this.
That dated pic when Nicki was still rocking crazy hair on the cover? WRONG. Acting like she owns that shit first, like it's not a blatant lifted from drag culture? WRONG.
Hell most of her verses came from Biggie anyway, yet Nicki stays slaying with pen in hand. She can take all the seats she wants, because she'll need them. Don't know of anybody who wants her to stand up or even care if she does anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 22:52:21 GMT -5
throwing diss tracks at Nicki doesn't take that away. Are you sure? Because I hear screams of desperation. I also don't agree that she "birthed" Nicki's career. She wasn't the FIRST female rapper ever. She may have been the first huge and successful one but she's not original in that sense. I don't think Nicki owes any credit to her, personally. There are plenty of other female rappers right now trying to make it. She may have "paved the way" for Nicki but I do not agree that she birthed her career. Kim was not the first female rapper or even the first successful female rapper but she literally redefined what it MEANT to be a female rapper. Kim, along with Foxy and to a lesser extent Eve, created the template for what females aspire to be in hip hop and broke barriers for what a female rapper was expected to do. Even today, damn near 20 years after she and the other 90s girls came out, up and coming female rappers are still shouting their names out as a primary influence and still aspiring to get where Kim did. Not only did Kim change what it meant to be a female in hip hop, she changed what it meant to be a female rapper in the entertainment industry at large. Just like Nicki deserves respect and props for busting open the gates and reopening the doors for female rappers in the past few years, Kim deserves respect from every female to come into the game because she changed what a female rapper was and what a female rapper was expected to do. With Nicki specifically, during her mixtape days, she was VERY clearly molded to be the "next Lil' Kim" in everything from her rhyming style, the colorful wigs, the crazy outfits, etc. Kim is clearly a huge inspiration for Nicki and yet the only time she was actively shouting out Kim's name as an influence was when she was also peddling mixtapes filled with disses about Foxy and Kim. I don't mean to say that Nicki hasn't brought anything new to the table, but so much of what got her attention in the first place was lifted from Kim's legacy. That doesn't mean she has to kiss Kim's ass all the time but it was definitely shady as hell to be receiving all these accolades and attention as an innovator when she was walking around in looks that Kim was rocking 10 years earlier. This may be petty and poorly timed, but Kim isn't wrong for calling Nicki out on jacking her style to come up and conveniently leaving out her name since like 2008. Also lol Biggie died in 1997 and while he wrote a few tracks on Hard Core, pretty much everyone who worked on that project has said that Kim was responsible for like 70% of the finished product. And since then, while she's definitely no Lauryn Hill in terms of lyrical genius, there have been so many testimonies throughout the industry of Kim writing her own s**t from producers to Diddy to Mobb Deep. She might use co-writers but she isn't having someone write entire verses for her with no input, like chingy or something. Also bye @ the idea that Kim getting pissed at Nicki for recycling her style without paying homage has anything to do with drag culture.
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Post by think pink. on Aug 7, 2014 0:05:35 GMT -5
Her twitter is a mess.
She's been tweeting out a lot of these.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Aug 7, 2014 0:31:40 GMT -5
How the f**k is she gonna diss Nicki for stealing her identity when she's been f**king 77 different people since '99? There is so much WRONG with this. 77 people is just being polite. It's probably closer to 7777. Where is she getting all that money to buy new faces every other month? #SugarDaddy #ComfortWoman #Floozy #BoogaBear Her recent recordings have been uninspired and terrible. She is really beating this whole idea of Nicki swaggerjacking her to death and it has become exhausting. She needs to stop. She needs to get some therapy and then make peace with the fact that Nicki is here now and if she wants to do her thing and maybe have a hit again, she needs to stop being so obsessed with her. Considering how much Kim allegedly hates Nicki, she is always laying there in wait for anything and everything Nicki comes out with so she can make a response to it and try to shit on her but it always ends up backfiring. Feuds and stuff with rappers are nothing new, but she is not even trying to do it right so she shouldn't. She's a shell of her former self. #Therapy #SheUsedToBeAPearl #RetirementHome #WigDonation
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 0:54:43 GMT -5
I ride or die with Kim, we ALL know Nicki is a Lil Kim/ Lady Gaga knockoff but just want Kim to drop it, we know but her telling us always is making her look bitter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 0:55:41 GMT -5
Just like LaToya Jackson aint bitching always that Kim stole her face.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 1:01:03 GMT -5
I ride or die with Kim, we ALL know Nicki is a Lil Kim/ Lady Gaga knockoff but just want Kim to drop it, we know but her telling us always is making her look bitter. Yes! Like tell us with the music Kimberly Denise! Drop a HOT mixtape with audio that doesn't sound like it was recorded on Windows 95 to let Onika know that you're coming for her instead of just going off on Twitter and acting a fool.
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Post by trashynavy on Aug 7, 2014 11:16:39 GMT -5
Nicki copied Gaga way more than she ever copied Kim. Lil Kim is an embarrassing mess
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 7, 2014 14:01:48 GMT -5
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Aug 7, 2014 15:54:57 GMT -5
It's not bad, at least she's not mentioning Nicki this time around.
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Post by asfoster87 on Aug 7, 2014 16:57:34 GMT -5
Freestyle was actually good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 17:05:01 GMT -5
Also bye @ the idea that Kim getting pissed at Nicki for recycling her style without paying homage has anything to do with drag culture. But it's not her style to get pissed about.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 19:36:29 GMT -5
Regardless of where the style originated (I think it's a little presumptuous to give all credit to drag queens), she was the first woman in hip hop to rock looks like those and a lot of the outfits and costumes that Nicki has rocked look like updated versions of Kim's old shit. She's never claimed to be the only person to ever wear a colored wig but as a female rapper, that kind of style is pretty much her signature and when another female rapper comes up and mimics it, without giving credit, it's obvious and shady.
It'd be like an up and coming teen pop star wearing a slutty schoolgirl outfit, getting recognized for it and not even mentioning Britney.
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Post by stunnedout on Aug 8, 2014 2:47:11 GMT -5
Kim clearly did it first as a female rapper. She clearly influenced Nick heavily. I dont know why her and her fans habe such a hard time admitting she is a knock off. But I agree Kim needs to stop beating a dead horse. Release a album or shut the fuck up. She has been out of jail for years and still not 1 album.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 15:51:46 GMT -5
Mixtape dropping on 9/11.
TI has said that an Iggy collaboration could be in the works.
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Post by think pink. on Aug 10, 2014 11:16:00 GMT -5
Twitter is trolling right now. Big Fendi posted a number to book Kim for her Hard Core mixtape tour, and people have been texting the number. Get rid of Fendi and hire a REAL management team.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Aug 10, 2014 13:21:41 GMT -5
NOT 10$ and Trident Layers. :fallsthefuckkout:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 16:39:37 GMT -5
Dropped a remix of No Flex Zone.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Aug 26, 2014 20:09:21 GMT -5
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Post by think pink. on Aug 28, 2014 11:22:19 GMT -5
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Aug 28, 2014 11:36:27 GMT -5
I like.
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Post by @DjKingBee on Aug 28, 2014 13:31:24 GMT -5
I live !!!! Can't wait for this mixtape
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Post by Hashtag Pow on Sept 2, 2014 22:56:57 GMT -5
She looks like Lil Kim Kardashian. I like.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 23:11:30 GMT -5
That's a photoshopped picture from 2009. I will say this though, Kim either likes looking like a hot ass mess or has a vested interest in keeping her current make-up artist because there have been pictures from as recent as last year that show that it's more about make-up than all the cosmetic surgery that keeps her looking crazy.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Sept 4, 2014 0:05:42 GMT -5
I think she looks good in the pic with Tiffany Foxx
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