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Post by britrocks16 on Jul 15, 2005 19:51:44 GMT -5
Her movie is going to flop. Anything she releases is going to flop. There really is no way for her to be successful again after SNL. People will not forget
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Post by staythenight on Jul 15, 2005 20:07:09 GMT -5
She wont sell as much as Rebirth but it wont be as successful as her last one!
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Post by babyboylrtm on Jul 15, 2005 20:10:35 GMT -5
Again, if she has a semi-hit single or a hit single promotion and her album can go platinum.
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Post by staythenight on Jul 15, 2005 20:12:32 GMT -5
yes but platinum is not good for her after her last CD.........exp if she only ships platinum like Glitter or Rebirth.......she needs to sell atleast 2M to not be called a flop
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Jul 15, 2005 20:18:11 GMT -5
She wont hit platnum. J.lo didnt even and shes a much bigger star, who people didn't ABSOLUTLY hate
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Post by babyboylrtm on Jul 15, 2005 20:25:33 GMT -5
You can't compare Jennifer to Ashlee Simpson, not even close. Rebirth sold 700k with one semi-hit single. But Jennifer didn't promote the album as much as she promoted J.Lo or This Is Me Then so that affect in a way the sells of the album. Ashlee can have a semi-hit single and go platinum and selling around 600k, but if she promotes well she can sell one million copies.
Does anybody knows how much she sold after SNL? It wasn't like her album went from #70 to #198 after SNL.
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Post by sleepy time on Jul 15, 2005 20:33:53 GMT -5
I think if she works with the right people she has the potential to sell well over 1M albums.
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Post by voir c'est croire on Jul 15, 2005 21:38:59 GMT -5
she drives me crazy and i hate her. shes a spoiled lil bitch. but i loved her album, she did great work. and i dont care about the SNL thing, for the fact more artist do it then we know. So i will probably check this out.
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Post by whistle on Jul 15, 2005 21:45:19 GMT -5
She lipsynched once or twice and got caught. Even Queen Mariah has lipsynched, never been exposed but everyone knows that almost every artist has lipsynced.
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Post by Vic on Jul 15, 2005 22:17:16 GMT -5
"Hater"?? maybe.
But she would be nothing if her sister wasn't a celebrity. Its kinda sad. And the fact that she cannot sing live does nothing for her credibility.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2005 22:22:03 GMT -5
She lipsynched once or twice and got caught. Even Queen Mariah has lipsynched, never been exposed but everyone knows that almost every artist has lipsynced. That's because there is no "exposing" to do. Everyone knows Mariah can sing. Ashlee had something to prove and she proved that she can't sing live. |
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Post by sleepy time on Jul 15, 2005 22:25:40 GMT -5
She lipsynched once or twice and got caught. Even Queen Mariah has lipsynched, never been exposed but everyone knows that almost every artist has lipsynced. That's because there is no "exposing" to do. Everyone knows Mariah can sing. Ashlee had something to prove and she proved that she can't sing live. Realistically, though, did anyone really expect her to be amazingly talented? I mean you have to kind of enter the whole "Ashlee Simpson" thing with some kind of understanding that she's not going to be amazing, or even average, live. I don't even get why people pay to see her in a concert. It's like paying someone to pluck your hairs out or something. Total Masochism. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2005 22:27:57 GMT -5
SNL never affected me because I only liked Ashlee as far as John Shank's hit production could take her.
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Post by sleepy time on Jul 15, 2005 22:33:15 GMT -5
Completely agreed.
Like I've said before, if you listen to the album and make an effort to forget that it's Ashlee Simpson, it's quite enjoyable.
But when you see her perform live... it's painful.
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Post by babyboylrtm on Jul 15, 2005 23:05:03 GMT -5
She lipsynched once or twice and got caught. Even Queen Mariah has lipsynched, never been exposed but everyone knows that almost every artist has lipsynced. Exactly, almost every singer has lypsynched, even rappers lypsynched (Eminem) so I don't see the big deal. |
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Post by sephyrpatriq on Jul 15, 2005 23:08:59 GMT -5
to me she sounds good live, not the best but good...her songs are in high keys and the fact that in most of them she sings the verses and the chorus and moves around on stage like she does and still sounds half decent makes me like her.
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Post by sleepy time on Jul 15, 2005 23:14:38 GMT -5
She lipsynched once or twice and got caught. Even Queen Mariah has lipsynched, never been exposed but everyone knows that almost every artist has lipsynced. Exactly, almost every singer has lypsynched, even rappers lypsynched (Eminem) so I don't see the big deal. It's a big deal because everyone already knows Mariah pretty much has the most amazing voice ever. Not only on record, but she's torn it up thousands of times live, which means when she does lip synch, everyone assumes she has a reason (sickness, bad acoustic conditions, etc.) because they know she's more than capable of performing live. When it happens to Ashlee, not only did she not have much of a career or series of good performances behind her to support her claim that she could sing, but she pretty much had everything to prove with that performance because many viewed her as the product of nepitism and a "let's cash on the newlywed girl's sister" situation (which is true). Ashlee's little lipsynch fiasco happened because of a mistake anyway. |
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Post by staythenight on Jul 15, 2005 23:23:13 GMT -5
and she had the nerve to talk about other people who lipsynch! ....u dont see Britney Spears ot JLO talking about other people who lipsynch, or hide the fact that they do it, thats the difference here
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Post by jimmy74747 on Jul 15, 2005 23:28:27 GMT -5
I predict #1
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Post by sleepy time on Jul 15, 2005 23:35:15 GMT -5
I don't understand how people make predictions on songs they haven't heard yet.
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Post by eric on Jul 16, 2005 0:46:10 GMT -5
HATERZ!! give the girl a break, her album was selling amazingly well until SNL. If she comes out with something catchy and promotes her album a lot, and/or do another season of "The Ashlee Simpson Show" her album wont flop, and if it does it won't be like Glitter or Afrodisiac. OMFG O NO OMFG OMFG WE IS HATIN ON SUM ASHL3311!!!!111!!!67!!!121! She lipsynched once or twice and got caught. Even Queen Mariah has lipsynched, never been exposed but everyone knows that almost every artist has lipsynced. Exactly like Orange Clouds said, she needed to prove herself and didn't. Not to mention she was on Saturday Night LIVE yet she didn't sing live. Incase you didn't catch the interviews, Lorne Michaels was not to happy about it because they don't allow lip-syncing unless there is a big dance part or something of that nature. |
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Post by Edf85 on Jul 16, 2005 0:54:38 GMT -5
I don't understand how people make predictions on songs they haven't heard yet. Know it alls. |
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Post by staythenight on Jul 16, 2005 0:57:20 GMT -5
I don't understand how people make predictions on songs they haven't heard yet. |
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Post by Minor Scratch on Jul 16, 2005 12:29:26 GMT -5
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Post by sephyrpatriq on Jul 16, 2005 13:51:15 GMT -5
everybody deserves a second chance....the country attacked her because of that and it's not right, so she messed up AND!! nobody's career should be ruined off one mistake...that's one major mistake society makes, if someone does something they either stereotype them, stigmatize them or ruin them...it's not right at all
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Post by Fir3bolt on Jul 16, 2005 16:00:23 GMT -5
It wouldn't have made a big deal to me if she hadn't trashed other lip-syncers, and made herself out to be this serious, talented singer. She had to exaggerate her ability, and when the sh!t hit the fan on SNL, it came back to haunt her.
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Post by The Rebirth Of ffej on Jul 16, 2005 16:09:17 GMT -5
everybody deserves a second chance....the country attacked her because of that and it's not right, so she messed up AND!! nobody's career should be ruined off one mistake...that's one major mistake society makes, if someone does something they either stereotype them, stigmatize them or ruin them...it's not right at all America gave her a second chance on the Orange Bowl. Then she proved shes nothing better than a shriek, and 30,000 people let her know. I really think whoever said Number 1 was kidding (  I hope). You can make predictions based on the artist, and how well they sell/ Their P.R, Previous Singles etc. |
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Post by PT08 on Jul 16, 2005 16:35:52 GMT -5
New music already. I was hoping I would never have to hear Ashlee Simpson again
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Post by sleepy time on Jul 16, 2005 16:43:11 GMT -5
Yeah but this album could sound totally different than her first one. I don't think one can make a prediction on this until we actually hear it. We don't know the lyrical content, the tempo, if she actually sounds good (although you have to assume she sounds good because her first album did so I'm sure they'll manipulate everything they need to manipulate to make it sound good again).
Best to hold out and wait until we hear it.
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Post by whistle on Jul 16, 2005 16:56:28 GMT -5
Everyone gave Mariah a second chance after she went insane. She didn't prove herself with "Charmbracelet" but she did come back once again, so I wouldn't count anyone out.
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