jenglisbe
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 7, 2022 15:59:53 GMT -5
jenglisbeHere is the history of BDS monitoring I compiled when gathering all those Billboard Radio Monitor histories last year. 1990: November - BDS begins monitoring CHR stations (Pop and Rhythmic weren't split until 1992) Cool. This particular point would also be an explanation for the difference between BDS and Hot 100 Airplay for "IDWC" as it isn't exactly 'Rhythmic,' though Mariah is multi-format so it may have still gotten play there. Does this mean those genre charts became BDS? They weren't part of Hot 100 Airplay, though.
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Post by Private Dancer on Jan 7, 2022 16:21:45 GMT -5
I'm reading all of this and I'm confused...so was IDWC a legitimate #1?
Would it even have been a #1 post soundscan?
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 7, 2022 16:44:41 GMT -5
I'm reading all of this and I'm confused...so was IDWC a legitimate #1? Lol, it was as legitimate a #1 as any other #1 pre-Soundscan. No need to single it out. Plus either way the song was a top 10 in airplay and a top 10 in sales despite being a fourth single*, so it was a hit. It likely would not have been a #1 in the Soundscan era, but that's also not 100% for sure. Keep in mind there was also a reason Soundscan was not yet being used. *Side note, let's also talk about how Mariah sold albums. Singles sales don't always tell the full story. "IDWC" as a fourth single from an album that was 5x platinum when it hit #1 isn't going to sell as much as a lead single or a single by an artist who isn't selling albums. "One Sweet Day" sold really well but not as much as, say, "Macarena," but "Macarena" was a one-off hit while "OSD" was from a huge album and helped sell albums instead of having all its sales be for the single. "We Belong Together" sold well but not as well as its airplay would suggest, but it sent TEOM back to #1 because it sold albums. Singles sales don't reflect those kinds of things.
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Post by Private Dancer on Jan 7, 2022 17:13:23 GMT -5
I'm reading all of this and I'm confused...so was IDWC a legitimate #1? Lol, it was as legitimate a #1 as any other #1 pre-Soundscan. No need to single it out. Plus either way the song was a top 10 in airplay and a top 10 in sales despite being a fourth single*, so it was a hit. It likely would not have been a #1 in the Soundscan era, but that's also not 100% for sure. Keep in mind there was also a reason Soundscan was not yet being used. *Side note, let's also talk about how Mariah sold albums. Singles sales don't always tell the full story. "IDWC" as a fourth single from an album that was 5x platinum when it hit #1 isn't going to sell as much as a lead single or a single by an artist who isn't selling albums. "One Sweet Day" sold really well but not as much as, say, "Macarena," but "Macarena" was a one-off hit while "OSD" was from a huge album and helped sell albums instead of having all its sales be for the single. "We Belong Together" sold well but not as well as its airplay would suggest, but it sent TEOM back to #1 because it sold albums. Singles sales don't reflect those kinds of things. This makes sense! So now my question is this the same case for Love Will Never Do Without You?
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 7, 2022 17:48:45 GMT -5
Lol, it was as legitimate a #1 as any other #1 pre-Soundscan. No need to single it out. Plus either way the song was a top 10 in airplay and a top 10 in sales despite being a fourth single*, so it was a hit. It likely would not have been a #1 in the Soundscan era, but that's also not 100% for sure. Keep in mind there was also a reason Soundscan was not yet being used. *Side note, let's also talk about how Mariah sold albums. Singles sales don't always tell the full story. "IDWC" as a fourth single from an album that was 5x platinum when it hit #1 isn't going to sell as much as a lead single or a single by an artist who isn't selling albums. "One Sweet Day" sold really well but not as much as, say, "Macarena," but "Macarena" was a one-off hit while "OSD" was from a huge album and helped sell albums instead of having all its sales be for the single. "We Belong Together" sold well but not as well as its airplay would suggest, but it sent TEOM back to #1 because it sold albums. Singles sales don't reflect those kinds of things. This makes sense! So now my question is this the same case for Love Will Never Do Without You? I just looked at the issue where "Love Will Never Do" hit #1. It was #1 on Hot 100 Airplay and #6 on Hot 100 Sales (very similar to "IDWC"). It was also #1 on the BDS Top 40 Monitor, though. (Interestingly, that same week "Love Takes Time" was #2 on the BDS Top 40 Monitor but it was #23 on Hot 100 Airplay, so it works both ways in that "LTT" would have been higher if BDS counted. But we already knew that one problem with pre-BDS airplay is stations quickly dropped songs from reported playlists when they had peaked and were considered 'recurrent,' which is why songs had short Hot 100 runs pre-Soundscan/BDS.)
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 8, 2022 22:26:35 GMT -5
jenglisbe Yes BDS started monitoring those genre charts in 1992 but R&B and Mainstream Rock were not added to Hot 100 Airplay until 1998
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