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Post by CammyCan on Feb 3, 2009 22:11:56 GMT -5
In my opinion, they were pretty forgettable Not my favorite of Dre's music for sure. California Love...forgettable? :o
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Post by Young Money on Feb 3, 2009 22:13:24 GMT -5
^ I'm sure it will be. It is coming out in a few weeks :o Then what's this all about ? ??? Because it is? In my opinion, they were pretty forgettable Not my favorite of Dre's music for sure. California Love...forgettable? :o LOL after I posted that, I thought, I bet someone will comment on that. I mean, the song is alright and everything. One of my favorite 2Pac songs, but I just think Dre has had much better vocals. It is a good production track though.
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Post by **βécky**™ on Feb 3, 2009 22:14:22 GMT -5
#1 already..
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Feb 3, 2009 22:47:07 GMT -5
Wow, congrats. This is by far not my favorite Em track, but it is actually growing on me. I didn't expect it to be #1 this fast, or even at all. I guess I didn't think Eminem still had that kind of sales power. I was WRONG! :)
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Post by Young Money on Feb 3, 2009 23:13:16 GMT -5
I've said that all along. Eminem has many, many fans. People for some reason think he doesn't.
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Post by rfucom on Feb 3, 2009 23:25:29 GMT -5
yeah. i thought wayne got much power but EMINEM does it in single sales.
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Post by Juanca on Feb 4, 2009 0:09:41 GMT -5
Eminem is almost a classic act. He was a celebrity in the 90s, attracted a new group of fans to Rap music, either because they had fun with his lyrics (The Real Slim Shady, Without Me) or because their serious songs were different, moving, interesting and with high quality (Stan, Lose Yourself). I had not been fan of any rapper before him. I think that many people from my generation do care about his music and expected something new from him and are really glad to see him back :)
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Post by rfucom on Feb 4, 2009 0:27:16 GMT -5
so its not the official single from his upcoming album.. im quite confused.. why did he release the song when its not officialy the single to launch.
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Post by tamed09 on Feb 4, 2009 8:30:28 GMT -5
Wow Congrats to Em. Not even the official single and it's #1 on Itunes.
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Post by Young Money on Feb 4, 2009 8:55:52 GMT -5
The song is a single. It is however (and obviously) not his solo official single along the lines of "Without Me", "Just Lose It", etc.
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Post by Baby In a New Dress on Feb 4, 2009 9:45:32 GMT -5
Em is one of my faves, but I absolutely detest this song. I almost want it to flop. If he wants a hit, he should've come harder than this. This sounds like grade school s**t.
Plus, it has that grade-A a$$ hole, 50 cent on it. I hate that b***h. >:(
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Post by rob17 on Feb 4, 2009 11:01:20 GMT -5
#10 UK iTunes! :o
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Post by aphterburn on Feb 4, 2009 12:36:27 GMT -5
I had not been fan of any rapper before him. I think that many people from my generation do care about his music and expected something new from him and are really glad to see him back :) Ok world, is nobody going to say it? Do I have to be the bad guy here? Ok, so be it. Eminem is only able to succeed from mediocre/average/terrible songs like this because he's white. Go ahead, bring it on. His fanbase gives him an inordinate amount of credit for being the first and only white rapper to break in the mainstream with even a semblance of credibility. He's decent at what he does, but makes terrible, lazy artistic choices. You know why everyone is shocked at the success of this song? Because it's awful and they know it. His name brand is the only thing holding it up.
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Post by Monroe on Feb 4, 2009 12:44:34 GMT -5
I think these songs lyrics are disgusting.
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Post by busyboy on Feb 4, 2009 12:55:21 GMT -5
Yeah, his fanbase was potentially way bigger because the 'majority' of the people could identify with him. Throw in the fact that he had (still has?) skills, that he's been working with the right people ( -> credibility as a rapper), that he heavily relied on controversy during his career and you get a superstar. Add the fact that the world outside of the US was ready for a rapper to become this huge to the mix, and you get a global superstar and the most successful rapper of all time.
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Post by busyboy on Feb 4, 2009 12:57:48 GMT -5
Eminem is almost a classic act. He was a celebrity in the 90s, attracted a new group of fans to Rap music, either because they had fun with his lyrics (The Real Slim Shady, Without Me) or because their serious songs were different, moving, interesting and with high quality (Stan, Lose Yourself). I had not been fan of any rapper before him. I think that many people from my generation do care about his music and expected something new from him and are really glad to see him back :) This post is really sad. Nothing personal, but it really shows how the general public doesn't know much about music. And that they probably don't even care.
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Post by Young Money on Feb 4, 2009 15:51:59 GMT -5
In October, Elton John was spotted breezing into the Ferndale recording studio where Relapse is being recorded. "He stayed half a week," says a witness to the visit. "No one realised the significance, though the Detroit Free Press did mention that Elton had been in town. He and Em worked together before, when they did that duet at the Grammys, and had always said that they'd record something original together. Em has huge respect for Elton, and the feeling is mutual. Elton really gets his music. Anything they produce will be total dope: some of Em's biggest records have been collaborations with mainstream pop stars – Dido on Stan, for example – and they really don't come much bigger, or more mainstream, than the man with the red piano."
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Post by jamrock16 on Feb 4, 2009 17:22:11 GMT -5
I had not been fan of any rapper before him. I think that many people from my generation do care about his music and expected something new from him and are really glad to see him back :) Ok world, is nobody going to say it? Do I have to be the bad guy here? Ok, so be it. Eminem is only able to succeed from mediocre/average/terrible songs like this because he's white. Go ahead, bring it on. His fanbase gives him an inordinate amount of credit for being the first and only white rapper to break in the mainstream with even a semblance of credibility. He's decent at what he does, but makes terrible, lazy artistic choices. You know why everyone is shocked at the success of this song? Because it's awful and they know it. His name brand is the only thing holding it up. Gotta agree with you. This song is terrible compared to the rest of Eminem's catalogue and it really bothers me when artists release lazy music just because they know their fans will accept it no matter what.
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Post by Young Money on Feb 4, 2009 17:24:54 GMT -5
How is the song lazy? The song is very good.
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Post by rob17 on Feb 4, 2009 18:02:19 GMT -5
This doing very well here in the UK its now 6 on iTunes here. :o It could go number one here aswell.
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Post by jamrock16 on Feb 4, 2009 19:39:13 GMT -5
How is the song lazy? The song is very good. I just don't think it compares well to his material, he's capable of so much better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2009 19:40:48 GMT -5
How is the song lazy? The song is very good. Because he's put out some really great works, and this song is a sample with simplistic lyrics and unnecessary guest appearances. Basically he used to be the antithesis of exactly what he's doing now.
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 4, 2009 20:04:43 GMT -5
Yeah, his fanbase was potentially way bigger because the 'majority' of the people could identify with him. Throw in the fact that he had (still has?) skills, that he's been working with the right people ( -> credibility as a rapper), that he heavily relied on controversy during his career and you get a superstar. Add the fact that the world outside of the US was ready for a rapper to become this huge to the mix, and you get a global superstar and the most successful rapper of all time. I actually think Jay-Z is the most successful rapper of all time when you consider his much lengthier track record (although Eminem has sold just as much in four eras what Jay-Z has sold in eight) but I understand what you're saying, and Eminem's name recognition will remain a potent force in any case commercially. The real question is how well he's going to live up to the raw honesty and unabashed sarcasm that made his earliest material classic. If this track is any indication, he remains a shadow of his former self in terms of things to talk about on a lyrical level, and that we may not expect to see his own sort of "The Blueprint" or some sort of latter-career artistic masterpiece like Jay-Z had been able to pull off years after "Reasonable Doubt" surfaced. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Young Money on Feb 4, 2009 20:08:18 GMT -5
No one said this was his best lyrical song, but calling it trash is not true either.
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Post by rfucom on Feb 4, 2009 21:00:16 GMT -5
This song ig very good. Listen to its twice or thrice before u call it a trash.
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Feb 4, 2009 21:15:22 GMT -5
I don't think this is anything special. I've never been an Eminem fan at all. I think he is extremely over-rated. I wouldn't mind giving credit where credit is due, but this is just blah. Definitely not up to his past standards.
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Post by rfucom on Feb 5, 2009 0:51:36 GMT -5
This is just mybe a so-so from him.. mybe we expect alot for eminem thats why. But give chance to this song. this will be no.1 next week on hot 100.
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Post by Young Money on Feb 5, 2009 16:32:33 GMT -5
Yup
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Post by Glove Slap on Feb 5, 2009 16:49:24 GMT -5
Yeah, his fanbase was potentially way bigger because the 'majority' of the people could identify with him. Throw in the fact that he had (still has?) skills, that he's been working with the right people ( -> credibility as a rapper), that he heavily relied on controversy during his career and you get a superstar. Add the fact that the world outside of the US was ready for a rapper to become this huge to the mix, and you get a global superstar and the most successful rapper of all time. Yeah this is quite true I have to say. I was born in 1989 so when he came out I couldn't exactly understand what all of his songs & lyrics meant beneath the surface, but I did like him. The main reason I initially liked him in retrospect was partially due to the way that he looked as well as the fact that his image was more like a cartoon than anything else to me. I'm sure that I was by far not the only one.
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Post by - d!Va - on Feb 6, 2009 5:54:01 GMT -5
I love this song! cat get it out of my head
This strategy is really smart. Crack A Bottle would bring Eminem back to the radio, without having the pressure as "eminem comeback single" People would expect alot from him, he had been out for awhile. He needed to really bring it on his first/comeback single. Alot of anticipation and expectation. It could be unrealistically way too high. Crack A Bottle almost came out of nowhere, the song itself isnt the typical eminem's 1st single pop/rap uptempo bubblegum. It's not so in your face and more low key. He's the main artist, with his 2 boyfriends as the featured artist. again, less pressure on him. Had it not took off, it's a group effort anyway. This really would open the door for eminem without having to deal with huge expectation. His 'real' 1st single would smoothly follow crack a bottle as the follow up and people wouldnt make a big deal about it as the new comeback eminem song.
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