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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Aug 24, 2007 13:47:49 GMT -5
Does it really matter? ... The song is off to a great start. Loving it!
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Post by Jul!an on Aug 24, 2007 13:56:31 GMT -5
The song has been added to iTunes & it's No 57 on Pop. Weird... Without promos or front page adds. Jive can do much better then this!
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Aug 24, 2007 14:20:22 GMT -5
They are probably waiting for the song to grow on the radio a bit before 'ad" it on itunes. I am sure they will do that in the next few weeks!
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Post by Jul!an on Aug 26, 2007 0:36:26 GMT -5
Up to 50 on pop iTunes.
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Aug 26, 2007 13:37:50 GMT -5
54 49 BACKSTREET BOYS Inconsolable 589 350 +239 6.326
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Post by Jul!an on Aug 26, 2007 14:17:46 GMT -5
54 49 BACKSTREET BOYS Inconsolable 589 350 +239 6.326As a chart expert & based on your previous experiences with P!nk's U+U Hand and Who Knew, both overlooked first by US mainstream radio, what chances "Inconsolable" has being a BSB song, and what would've been if sung by other artists, Fergie for instance?
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Aug 26, 2007 14:44:23 GMT -5
:DI am not a expert! I just find the "spins" game fascinating and I enjoy keeping track on my favorite songs and make my predictions.
I noticed a lot of negative feedback for this song on the board but I was expecting that because this is a classic BSB ballad and most peeps think that their style and sound is not what radio is looking for these days. I think they are wrong ... with all the "rhythmic pop" sound domination, radio is starving for pure pop and this is a good one for them! It's doing very well for a song that didn't go for adds, yet ... top 50 before the adds date is definitely promising! Big stations are supporting it and that's always a big advantage .... ready to hit top 10 on z100, getting good amount of spins in Washington and Chicago is ready to jump on it! My opinion is that it will do very well! With that said, I see it peaking inside the Top 10 both on POP radio and Hot 100. :)
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Post by Jul!an on Aug 26, 2007 15:16:58 GMT -5
Thanks for your honest opinion. Some people seem to be negative just because it's BSB. Without even hearing a single note they decided that it's a bad song and invited them to step off "stage"! If sung by some other artist this song would've been the song of the year... This song is as pop as it can be in 2007! It's rare for a band like BSB to stay together so many years in today's "pop-world"! 75 million fans can't be wrong! A little respect from the industry won't hurt...
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Aug 26, 2007 15:27:37 GMT -5
Let them say whatever they want ... success against all odds is even more sweet! ;)
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Post by Jul!an on Aug 26, 2007 15:47:58 GMT -5
You're right but when/or radio programmers/MD's are thinking the same, we might have a problem. Cuz they are the ones who decide what song going to be "play listed": all of the sudden they say Kelly it's not pop enough, but the BSB it's to pop! Being a boy-band from the 90's it's hard enough. They just don't take you seriously!
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Post by Sara on Aug 26, 2007 16:36:07 GMT -5
I really do like this song a lot.
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Post by clem on Aug 27, 2007 2:02:19 GMT -5
I love this. Smash.
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Post by Chaotic Kissed A Pinkch! on Aug 27, 2007 2:12:23 GMT -5
You know, I just listened to this song for the first time and the first reaction I have:
Why didn't Kelly come back with this? :(
And I was sad for a moment, but fuck yeah I say to these 4 boys. Much love and I'll send in a few requests, but I know my station will be getting behind it. They LOVED Incomplete and Just Want You To Know.
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Post by TroublemakerOlly on Aug 27, 2007 6:02:04 GMT -5
i have to admit that i do love this song~
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Post by Sticky&Sweet™ on Aug 27, 2007 8:10:04 GMT -5
I think one of the guys mentioned this album is more like Millenium.. soo I'm happy with that <33
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 27, 2007 17:27:52 GMT -5
I know I wrote this in a thread on the HAC board, but I think this song's gonna be hurtin b/c the hook "Inconsolable" is sung exactly like Beyonce sings "Irreplaceable" - I know the rest of the song is different, but I think the obvious similarity in the hook will hurt this song esp. b/c "Irreplaceable" was so popular
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Post by clem on Aug 27, 2007 18:07:51 GMT -5
The hook sounds nothing like "Irreplaceable" to me. The notes aren't even the same.
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Just read the other thread. I see now that your "hook" only means the last line. It's still different though. The last line of "Inconsolable" is in a minor key and sung by a group, while the last line of "Irreplaceable" is in a major key and sung by a solo female. I also must reiterate that the notes are completely different. In relative key, BSB's last line goes 7-1-2-1-1-7 and Beyonce's last line goes 5-5-5-7-1-1.
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 27, 2007 18:16:46 GMT -5
The hook sounds nothing like "Irreplaceable" to me. The notes aren't even the same. -edit- Just read the other thread. I see now that your "hook" only means the last line. It's still different though. The last line of "Inconsolable" is in a minor key and sung by a group, while the last line of "Irreplaceable" is in a major key and sung by a solo female. I also must reiterate that the notes are completely different. In relative key, BSB's last line goes 7-1-2-1-1-7 and Beyonce's last line goes 5-5-5-7-1-1. Wow!! :)
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Post by Juanca on Aug 28, 2007 0:02:17 GMT -5
It's weird, sad and frustrating reading so many people showing that much hate to this pop band. I mean, they were pure pop, yes, but was that really bad??? They were harmonic pop, and HARMONY is something we, honestly, have rarely seen this 2000s, right after they decreased their popularity. All the crappy rap/r&b talking about ho's, spending $, drugs, crime, whatever. WHat did BSB do back in their time? Singing some cheesy songs probably, but delivering properly, so what's the big deal?!!! I was curious one day in China, with a group of American undergrads, and a bit older people from Asia, Europe and Latin America. Among the classic songs we sang together, few of the more modern songs we ALL enjoyed singing without shame was I Want it That Way (even some undergrads thatr were previously all for Live, REM and Metallica, LOL), trying to reach our different scale of notes: NICE!! So, WELCOME Back BSB!!! You deserve a place much more than other current artists. As someone said already, there is room for everyone here. If T-Pain can be successful, why not BSB? I like this song, it's much more melodic than Incomplete, and the rhythm goes smoothly and wrapping. The voices are still very good. Not their best ballad ever, but it's a good song, and really different for radio right now. I hope they give them a chance now. Go, Theo!! I support you this time, too!! ;)
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Post by Felicia on Aug 28, 2007 0:13:12 GMT -5
BSB is still quite popular in Asia, in fact (untalented) boybands are still hip over here. So if they flop in the US/ Europe, their album can still sell a million copies with their fanbase in Asia.
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Post by Jul!an on Aug 28, 2007 1:48:01 GMT -5
It's weird, sad and frustrating reading so many people showing that much hate to this pop band. I mean, they were pure pop, yes, but was that really bad??? They were harmonic pop, and HARMONY is something we, honestly, have rarely seen this 2000s, right after they decreased their popularity. All the crappy rap/r&b talking about ho's, spending $, drugs, crime, whatever. WHat did BSB do back in their time? Singing some cheesy songs probably, but delivering properly, so what's the big deal?!!! I was curious one day in China, with a group of American undergrads, and a bit older people from Asia, Europe and Latin America. Among the classic songs we sang together, few of the more modern songs we ALL enjoyed singing without shame was I Want it That Way (even some undergrads thatr were previously all for Live, REM and Metallica, LOL), trying to reach our different scale of notes: NICE!! So, WELCOME Back BSB!!! You deserve a place much more than other current artists. As someone said already, there is room for everyone here. If T-Pain can be successful, why not BSB? I like this song, it's much more melodic than Incomplete, and the rhythm goes smoothly and wrapping. The voices are still very good. Not their best ballad ever, but it's a good song, and really different for radio right now. I hope they give them a chance now. Go, Theo!! I support you this time, too!! ;)[/quote I'm really happy that more and more people are starting to give this band/song a chance: if you’re not a fan, you have to see & hear beyond the stigma attached mostly by critics to this vocal-harmony pop group. It may be (the lyrics) cheesy, but 75% of the lyrics regardless of the genre, are about love and relationships. On their previous record (Never Gone) they sung about loosing a friend to drugs, loved ones to fatal illness or the Iraqi war (Weird World). But someone who's criticizing today gave those song at least one listen? I doubt it! It's easy to point fingers, but lets not forget who opened the door in the mid/late 90's to pop acts like Britney, Christina Aguilera, Jessica Simpson, *NSYNC/Justin Timberlake...Max Martin and the his production team became a respected name in the business (ASCAP's Songwriter of the Year in 1999, 2000, 2001) still writing and producing for a wide range of acts like Kelly Clarkson, Avril Lavigne, Bon Jovi, Deff Leppard, Celine Dion just to name a few. Bottom line is that this guys accomplished something in a short 15 year (!!!) carrier if anything the #10 pop song of all times ("I Want It That Way" according to Rolling Stone Magazine), one of the ultimate pop albums of all times (Millennium) and 75 million albums sold world wide! I'm curious to see what the future brings for this group. I don't know if the label is behind them or not, their strategy isn't the best: i don't understand why Jive released this on such a quiet manner, without promos on the front page on iTunes, not even on Pop, with just a short statement on the official site saying: The new Backstreet Boys single is now available digitally- get it right on your iPod now, download it at iTunes! I don't think this is good enough considering that the song is doing well on US radio outlets, climbing inside the top 50 before the official add date. I feel that Jive doesn't support this 100%!
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 28, 2007 10:27:33 GMT -5
I seriously think that if the chorus were better this song would be a big hit - IMO the verses are ingenious (esp. the piano part)
Still think they had "Irreplaceable" in mind when they wrote the title and (end of) chorus to this song...also "Inconsolable" is IMO a really awkward word, hook, and title - a lot of people don't even know what it means
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Post by WotUNeed on Aug 28, 2007 13:31:17 GMT -5
I seriously think that if the chorus were better this song would be a big hit - IMO the verses are ingenious (esp. the piano part) Still think they had "Irreplaceable" in mind when they wrote the title and (end of) chorus to this song...also "Inconsolable" is IMO a really awkward word, hook, and title - a lot of people don't even know what it means Get over "Irreplaceable" - they really don't sound anything alike. "Inconsolable" isn't exactly a hard word, but even if you don't know its meaning (and don't know how to break down basic prefixes and suffixes), it's pretty easy to figure out in context. I doubt either the fact that it has the same number of syllables and same initial letter as "Irreplaceable" or the denotation of the title will be factors which can be blamed if it does not take off. As of right now, I remain optimistic and think it will do reasonably well.
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Post by Juanca on Aug 28, 2007 15:12:42 GMT -5
Yeah, it's kind of weird for me to think that Inconsolable and Irreplacable are similar (!). If you said that Inconsolable and Incomplete are similar, I would agree, in terms of 1word title, style of song... but Yonka/BSB ah? what? By the way, maybe this was also aimed to the Latin community, hehe, since we all clearly understand what that means... the Spanish word is written the same way, and it is not an uncommon word: perdida inconsolable (inconsolable loss), lloro de modo inconsolable (cried in an inconsolable way), etc...
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 28, 2007 18:19:03 GMT -5
I seriously think that if the chorus were better this song would be a big hit - IMO the verses are ingenious (esp. the piano part) Still think they had "Irreplaceable" in mind when they wrote the title and (end of) chorus to this song...also "Inconsolable" is IMO a really awkward word, hook, and title - a lot of people don't even know what it means Get over "Irreplaceable" - they really don't sound anything alike. "Inconsolable" isn't exactly a hard word, but even if you don't know its meaning (and don't know how to break down basic prefixes and suffixes), it's pretty easy to figure out in context. I doubt either the fact that it has the same number of syllables and same initial letter as "Irreplaceable" or the denotation of the title will be factors which can be blamed if it does not take off. As of right now, I remain optimistic and think it will do reasonably well. I hope it does well too but im tellin you the "Irreplaceable" thing and the title that most people don't understand are gonna hurt this song...
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Post by Sticky&Sweet™ on Aug 28, 2007 20:03:28 GMT -5
Get over "Irreplaceable" - they really don't sound anything alike. "Inconsolable" isn't exactly a hard word, but even if you don't know its meaning (and don't know how to break down basic prefixes and suffixes), it's pretty easy to figure out in context. I doubt either the fact that it has the same number of syllables and same initial letter as "Irreplaceable" or the denotation of the title will be factors which can be blamed if it does not take off. As of right now, I remain optimistic and think it will do reasonably well. I hope it does well too but im tellin you the "Irreplaceable" thing and the title that most people don't understand are gonna hurt this song... I don't understand you and the Irreplaceable thing.. theres nothing in the song that even sounds or is even comparable to Irreplaceable.. not even the title.. and if you want to argue about titles being similar, the Backstreet boys had Incomplete WAY before Irreplaceable. Get a grip on reality.. not everything is based on comparisons to Beyonce. Also, if anyone doesn't understand what "Inconsolable" means, then maybe they shouldn't be listening to the radio and should be sent back to elementary school to learn more anyways! It's not a very difficult word to comprehend, c'mon now!
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Post by Sticky&Sweet™ on Aug 28, 2007 20:12:41 GMT -5
'Inconsolable' US Radio Update, August 28th:
POP: #50, 622 spins, +177 spins, 5.891 million impressions HAC: #47, 169 spins, +17 spins, 0.500 million impressions AC: #45, 32 spins, +18 spins, 0.219 million impressions
Total Spins: 869 Total Impressions: 6.638 million impressions
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Post by THE LEGENDARY SAINT LUISRO on Aug 28, 2007 20:42:25 GMT -5
They need to give it up but then again, they are not doing that bad for a boyband.
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Post by Jul!an on Aug 29, 2007 0:06:42 GMT -5
Sony BMG Asutralia posted a press release:
Backstreet Boys are back with their brand new single 'Inconsolable'!! It arrives in stores September 22 so in the meantime, grab the 'Inconsolable' ringtone and request the tune on your radios NOW. PLUS watch out for the exclusive interview snippets with the boys coming to these pages this week...
With over 78 million albums sold worldwide, Backstreet Boys are one of the most popular groups in the world and now they're back with their new single 'Inconsolable'.
'Inconsolable' is the first single from the new-look Backstreet Boys' forthcoming album 'Unbreakable' due in stores October 27.
Written and produced by Emanuel Kiriakou and co-written by Lindy Robbins and Jess Cates (the team behind Backstreet Boys 'Incomplete' and Nick Lachey 'What's Left Of Me'), 'Inconsolable' is a piano-driven rock ballad with the trademark BSB harmonies & melodies that make this a POP SMASH!
'Inconsolable' single in stores September 22 'Unbreakable' album due October 27
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Post by Jul!an on Aug 29, 2007 7:22:43 GMT -5
POP: #47, 685 spins, +228, 5.924 AI HAC: #45, 184 spins, +37, 0.543 AI AC: #45, 33 spins, +17, 0.226 million impressions
Total Spins: 902 Total AI: 6.693
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