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Post by Eloqueen™ on Apr 16, 2009 10:12:19 GMT -5
but I've never heard the original version of it on the CHR stations here. Just for the record, that's all I heard where I live.
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Post by aTunes on Apr 16, 2009 10:13:05 GMT -5
but I've never heard the original version of it on the CHR stations here. Just for the record, that's all I heard where I live. Where do you live?
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Apr 16, 2009 10:13:44 GMT -5
Just for the record, that's all I heard where I live. Where do you live? Georgia.
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Post by aTunes on Apr 16, 2009 10:14:42 GMT -5
^Well there ya go. I'm sure the southern CHR stations would be much more inclined to play the original, but I doubt many non-southern states do.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Apr 16, 2009 10:17:34 GMT -5
^Well there ya go. I'm sure the southern CHR stations would be much more inclined to play the original, but I doubt many non-southern states do. Well you can doubt and I can doubt but until we find a listing of which version every radio station in America played this back and forth isn't going anywhere. You could say the remix was mostly responsible for its success and I could say the original was more responsible and neither of us are right because we just don't know.
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Post by aTunes on Apr 16, 2009 10:18:58 GMT -5
I have no idea if there's any way of knowing what was played more on CHR, I just know what the 4 CHR stations I can occasionally get here in Colorado play. I would just think since country is rooted in the south and thrives the most there, that would be why you might hear the original on CHR there.
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Post by desertfloods on Apr 16, 2009 10:50:16 GMT -5
Just for the record, the original LS version may have sold all the downloads, but I've never heard the original version of it on the CHR stations here. One of my HAC plays the original version, but that's it. Every other time I've heard it on a non-country station, it's the pop remix. And I'm sure a large percentage of people who downloaded it had no idea that the version they hear on CHR is the remix, hence why the original version has most of the downloads. Yup. This.
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Post by desertfloods on Apr 16, 2009 10:58:10 GMT -5
^ I hate all her other remixes as well but YNS remix was the only one that made me like the song a bit more. I guess it's also coz it fits the CSI scenes very well. Visual helps. No one has any problem of her releasing songs to pop radios. Yeah, it's not the fact that she releases her songs to Pop radio but the fact that they're successful that people seem to have a problem with. ;) Is that why the original version of Love Story sold 98% of the songs final (so far) 3.3 million total? This is exactly why a lot of people find Country listeners to be narrow minded. As if when you become a Country artist you are stamped with this creed that you shouldn't shake. A creed that says you must stick to your genre and not try to reach out to other audiences. That if you are played anywhere else or try to maximize your potential in a different area, you have lost your integrity. That's a load of crap if you ask me. Taylor's main love is for Country music, yes, but whose to say she didn't have other areas of music which she loved/was inspired by? She probably wants to bring all of her influences into her music, what the heck is so bad about that? I mean do people even realize how absurd this whole situation is? It would be like fans saying Alicia Keys would lose her artist integrity if she were to record a rock remix of No One and send it to Alternative. No, it wouldn't have (at least not here on Pulse with the people who accuse her of "selling out"). Because she'll allow a remix? Seriously? You've got to be kidding. Must have to do with that whole invisible Country creed thing because I'm not gettin it. Let me repeat. I have no problem with Taylor sending her songs to pop AT ALL. But I only wish she send the ORIGINAL version (as do some other people here as well) One should be confident enough with your own song to stick to the original. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2009 11:06:48 GMT -5
I live in Alabama and all the CHR and AC stations here played the remix. They wouldn't touch the original.
I'm glad they made the pop mixes. I wouldn't have listened to the song at all otherwise.
I am really looking forward to this pop mix. Take out the banjo and turn up the bass and you have pure pop perfection.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Apr 16, 2009 11:11:14 GMT -5
Let me repeat. I have no problem with Taylor sending her songs to pop AT ALL. But I only wish she send the ORIGINAL version (as do some other people here as well) And some "other" people (including myself) could care less. As if they completely reworked her songs. No. There are changes made but the original song is still there. It's as if these people think remixes are the devil. LOL
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Apr 16, 2009 13:41:09 GMT -5
I love the remixes. I'm not a huge fan of country music, so the remixes make her songs so much better for me.
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Post by Wrecking Ball on Apr 16, 2009 15:35:54 GMT -5
Yeah I have no problem with her crossing over to pop but I feel she should be doing it based on the orginals not with pop remixes. I've been a fan of Taylor since before she blew up into this huge star so I'm very happy to see all this success for her, I just wish she didn't feel the need to change her music to please others. If they don't want to accept her the way she is then thats there loss. Her songs are country pop to being with, I don't think pop radio listeners would hate the orginal as much as people think.
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Post by nsfb17 on Apr 16, 2009 17:23:25 GMT -5
I live in the country (we're talking Redneck Central), and if I would walk outside right now and ask random people whether or not they have a problem with Taylor Swift releasing remixes of her singles to pop radio, I can guarantee you that none of them would give a rat's ass. It's only the fans on this board that raise hell about it. Nobody else cares. It just amazes me that this argument/discussion has gone on for so long.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Apr 16, 2009 17:53:55 GMT -5
Since "White Horse" wasn't released to pop, I hope we get "Fifteen" or "You're Not Sorry".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2009 18:27:15 GMT -5
I live in the country (we're talking Redneck Central), and if I would walk outside right now and ask random people whether or not they have a problem with Taylor Swift releasing remixes of her singles to pop radio, I can guarantee you that none of them would give a rat's ass. It's only the fans on this board that raise hell about it. Nobody else cares. It just amazes me that this argument/discussion has gone on for so long. Exactly. The general public doesnt care.
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Post by Taylor. on Apr 16, 2009 22:09:05 GMT -5
I live in the country (we're talking Redneck Central), and if I would walk outside right now and ask random people whether or not they have a problem with Taylor Swift releasing remixes of her singles to pop radio, I can guarantee you that none of them would give a rat's ass. It's only the fans on this board that raise hell about it. Nobody else cares. It just amazes me that this argument/discussion has gone on for so long.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Apr 16, 2009 22:13:23 GMT -5
I live in the country (we're talking Redneck Central), and if I would walk outside right now and ask random people whether or not they have a problem with Taylor Swift releasing remixes of her singles to pop radio, I can guarantee you that none of them would give a rat's ass. It's only the fans on this board that raise hell about it. Nobody else cares. It just amazes me that this argument/discussion has gone on for so long. Lol-I guess we just have a more vested interest, but overall I do think we tend to overkill subjects. As I said, every Taylor topic will be FULL on every page of people shrieking about the pop remixes or declaring her not country at all, every Kelly topic will be stuffed full of people shrieking because a Katy Perry song is on her cd and how "the sound is against her wishes and she hates it!" and so on and so forth for every artist out there We should have breaks or something where you can only rehash topics like that every odd page or something.
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Post by MOWE on Apr 16, 2009 22:14:31 GMT -5
Well you can doubt and I can doubt but until we find a listing of which version every radio station in America played this back and forth isn't going anywhere. You could say the remix was mostly responsible for its success and I could say the original was more responsible and neither of us are right because we just don't know. I can state for a fact that Kiss 108 in Boston and Z100 in NYC both played the pop mix. Those right there are two of the biggest stations in the country. Without their support, Taylor would never have made it to #1 on the Pop charts. I bet that, without a Pop mix, they never would have played the song.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Apr 16, 2009 22:17:45 GMT -5
Well you can doubt and I can doubt but until we find a listing of which version every radio station in America played this back and forth isn't going anywhere. You could say the remix was mostly responsible for its success and I could say the original was more responsible and neither of us are right because we just don't know. I can state for a fact that Kiss 108 in Boston and Z100 in NYC both played the pop mix. Those right there are two of the biggest stations in the country. Without their support, Taylor would never have made it to #1 on the Pop charts. I bet that, without a Pop mix, they never would have played the song. There are 100 something pop stations now? 120? 130? Can you state for a fact that almost all of them played the pop remix? With proof?
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Apr 16, 2009 22:29:14 GMT -5
I can state for a fact that Kiss 108 in Boston and Z100 in NYC both played the pop mix. Those right there are two of the biggest stations in the country. Without their support, Taylor would never have made it to #1 on the Pop charts. I bet that, without a Pop mix, they never would have played the song. There are 100 something pop stations now? 120? 130? Can you state for a fact that almost all of them played the pop remix? With proof? Thank you. All of this hear say of "I heard this version played here" or "well I know for a fact that this station played this" proves absolutely nothing. Without a full listing of which versions pop stations throughout the US played I'm not going to concede the Pop version is responsible for Love Story becoming the monster it is. It's all speculation at this point.
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Post by rfucom on Apr 16, 2009 22:54:10 GMT -5
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Post by heartbreaklullaby on Apr 16, 2009 23:00:22 GMT -5
There are 100 something pop stations now? 120? 130? Can you state for a fact that almost all of them played the pop remix? With proof? Thank you. All of this hear say of "I heard this version played here" or "well I know for a fact that this station played this" proves absolutely nothing. Without a full listing of which versions pop stations throughout the US played I'm not going to concede the Pop version is responsible for Love Story becoming the monster it is. It's all speculation at this point. I agree the original version contributes to the success of Love Story in terms of downloads. But in terms of people getting to know her and her music, the pop version may have played a major part there. is she trying to make the pop version the primary version now 'coz she has been singing it in every performance, concerts & tv appearances every now and then? can this imply Taylor also thinks the pop version is more responsible for the success? anyways, despite the fact that she has been focusing on the pop version now, the sales of the pop mix hasn't increased but people are still downloading the original version. This is very interesting
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Apr 16, 2009 23:20:12 GMT -5
Yeah I have no problem with her crossing over to pop but I feel she should be doing it based on the orginals not with pop remixes. I've been a fan of Taylor since before she blew up into this huge star so I'm very happy to see all this success for her, I just wish she didn't feel the need to change her music to please others. If they don't want to accept her the way she is then thats there loss. Her songs are country pop to being with, I don't think pop radio listeners would hate the orginal as much as people think. I just don't get that. It would be such a missed business opportunity to NOT release pop mixes. As people have said, the only people that even get a little offended are the fans who are going to support anyway. Pop mixes of country songs could gain a ton of new fans from mainstream america. This is my one big qualm with Carrie Underwood. If she would make pop mixes of her songs I think she could be a huge pop star. Think of all the money she could be making, on top of what she already does! I think people sometimes forget this is a business. These songs are products made to be profitable. Otherwise, they would be on some indie label, or no label at all.
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Post by aTunes on Apr 17, 2009 7:47:32 GMT -5
There are 100 something pop stations now? 120? 130? Can you state for a fact that almost all of them played the pop remix? With proof? Thank you. All of this hear say of "I heard this version played here" or "well I know for a fact that this station played this" proves absolutely nothing. Without a full listing of which versions pop stations throughout the US played I'm not going to concede the Pop version is responsible for Love Story becoming the monster it is. It's all speculation at this point. That's all well and good, but what me5671 was getting at was that LS likely would not have hit #1 without the support of those 2 huge markets, and they played the pop mix. And if they played the pop mix it's a high possibility that's what the majority of all CHR stations played. No it can't be proven, but you'd have to be in denial to not admit that what a station like Z100 plays greatly influences what dozens of other CHR stations across the nation play. Why are you so defensive about it anyways? What does it matter if the pop mix was mostly responsible for it's crossover success? Geez, the point is it had huge crossover success, and if you're really a true fan of her and the song, you should be happy about it regardless of which version CHR may have spun more.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Apr 17, 2009 9:27:32 GMT -5
Why are you so defensive about it anyways? Because people (especially on this forum) are constantly trying to diminish her accomplishments and this would be just another example. If it were only successful (crossover wise) because of the "Pop Remix" then one could argue that it "wasn't the first true Country song" to hit #1 in years. I believe the original Country version was instrumental in its overall success. I also am a little bit tired of the same subject repeating itself every two pages in all of her threads. It gets repetitive and annoying.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Apr 17, 2009 16:13:15 GMT -5
I live in Texas and my CHR only played the pop mix to LS. :( I think it was only because it was 'out there' though. If they don't make a pop mix to YBWM, everyone will play the regular version and it will do fine.
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Post by Wrecking Ball on Apr 17, 2009 17:17:13 GMT -5
the videos gonna have a prom theme lol, from taylor's twitter:
taylorswift13getting ready to go to prom... In a music video. :) about 1 hour ago from mobile web
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Post by nsfb17 on Apr 17, 2009 17:28:13 GMT -5
Yeah I have no problem with her crossing over to pop but I feel she should be doing it based on the orginals not with pop remixes. I've been a fan of Taylor since before she blew up into this huge star so I'm very happy to see all this success for her, I just wish she didn't feel the need to change her music to please others. If they don't want to accept her the way she is then thats there loss. Her songs are country pop to being with, I don't think pop radio listeners would hate the orginal as much as people think. I just don't get that. It would be such a missed business opportunity to NOT release pop mixes. As people have said, the only people that even get a little offended are the fans who are going to support anyway. Pop mixes of country songs could gain a ton of new fans from mainstream america. This is my one big qualm with Carrie Underwood. If she would make pop mixes of her songs I think she could be a huge pop star. With the exception of 'Tim McGraw', all of Taylor's singles have been pretty close to pop to begin with. None of them really needed to be remixed. And I don't think Carrie Underwood is interested in being a "huge pop star." I believe she's even said that she'll never remix her songs for CHR because she doesn't care about appealing to anyone outside of the country audience. If pop radio plays her music, great; if they don't, no big deal. I doubt she loses any sleep over it.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Apr 17, 2009 17:45:10 GMT -5
taylorswift13getting ready to go to prom... In a music video. :) about 1 hour ago from mobile web It's been done a lot, but maybe the video is going to be like Teenage Dirtbag and he comes up to her at the prom and *realizes* he belongs with her? This is gonna be so cute!
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Post by MOWE on Apr 17, 2009 23:08:51 GMT -5
Because people (especially on this forum) are constantly trying to diminish her accomplishments and this would be just another example. If it were only successful (crossover wise) because of the "Pop Remix" then one could argue that it "wasn't the first true Country song" to hit #1 in years. I believe the original Country version was instrumental in its overall success. I also am a little bit tired of the same subject repeating itself every two pages in all of her threads. It gets repetitive and annoying. I can't speak for other people, Will, but I know that I'm not trying to diminish Taylor's success. I think it's an amazing feat that she's the first artist to hit #1 on Pop and Country with the same song in 28 years. I'm just pointing out that the Pop mix helped her get there and, IMO, was necessary. I do this not to diminish her successes, but to defend Taylor's pop mixes. Love them or hate them, Taylor wouldn't have such an easy time being accepted on Pop without them IMO.
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