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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on May 26, 2009 16:48:59 GMT -5
^I agree with you. However Simon is usually on the $ and he said Adam would be an international star. I don't see it myself but maybe it'll happen. Simon isn't always right. He only caught on to Kelly's potential late in season 1. And he thought Fantasia would be a superstar. He often changes his mind, or backtracks, just to seem like he's always right. But if Adam is going to be a superstar anywhere, I can see it more in Europe than in the US. But this is coming from somebody who has no idea what Adam's "style" is since to me he seems like a male Cher circa 1984, and I have no clue where that fits with today's music.
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Post by Bluesy on May 26, 2009 17:16:08 GMT -5
I absolutely can't stand Kris and think he's one of the weakest AI winners.
I'll buy Adam's music, but hate the cheesy coronation song and hope he doesn't get saddled with it.
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Post by Bluesy on May 26, 2009 17:18:25 GMT -5
^I agree with you. However Simon is usually on the $ and he said Adam would be an international star. I don't see it myself but maybe it'll happen. Simon isn't always right. He only caught on to Kelly's potential late in season 1. And he thought Fantasia would be a superstar. He often changes his mind, or backtracks, just to seem like he's always right. But if Adam is going to be a superstar anywhere, I can see it more in Europe than in the US. But this is coming from somebody who has no idea what Adam's "style" is since to me he seems like a male Cher circa 1984, and I have no clue where that fits with today's music. Adam's style is theatrical. He definitely doesn't fit in the pop genre, but I agree with Randy Jackson that Adam could do rock and alternative styles of music. In this interview with E! Online, Adam says he's about fusion of different styles: www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b125680_adam_lamberts_debut_cd_rock_glam_pop.html?utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstoriesHe also discusses his theatricality and the fact that he likes to collaborate. He says he doesn't like to be told what to do, but also doesn't want the reins all to himself. I'm very much looking forward to his album.
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Post by MOWE on May 26, 2009 22:59:17 GMT -5
I think Adam's an amazing singer, but this song is SO not right for him.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2009 23:12:41 GMT -5
he may or may not be that huge people thinks.i believe that he has great potentials.that does not matter any more.when we were in the top11 week,i already believe he is locked within top 6,when we reach top8,i already know that he would be in the top three,but i actually did not believe he would steal the title from the two front runners. as a fan of kris,i do think that adam outsing kris and others,but i actually not bother to care about the frontrunners.i actually follow kris more and more.i want kris to win but not crown him as the best singer.i do believe kris is doing his own thing and not crazy compete with others.
people just let go the show.they will have their own career from now on.
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Post by rfucom on May 26, 2009 23:15:20 GMT -5
I hate No boundries as a single. ITs too boring to be sung on finale.
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Post by Illusions on May 26, 2009 23:25:27 GMT -5
BTW I didn't say Adam couldn't sing. I said he isn't that good IMO!
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2009 23:26:57 GMT -5
adam will have his future whether big or not.i am not his huge fan or so called glambert but i hope he has a great career and still befriend with kris.they are great friends and hope each other does well.i believe that adam is gay which i am not against him and i believe kris also accept adam.that is why adam is so grateful he has a friend like kris.
i read somewhere where they say they will buy each others album to support each other.that is very nice.i believe that adam knows that he is a great singer but still humble and he knows that kris is limited in range but adore his artistry music.they have the connection that other people dont know.i believe that kris is also understand that adam is well gifted and believe that he deserve the title or success.what i mean is that they tolerate each others strength and weakness.who knows what happened in that mansion and in their room as they are roommates?But i am pretty sure they communicate a lot.
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Post by sunpeach on May 27, 2009 17:59:39 GMT -5
This song is not good. "I Believe" was an excellent song, I loved that song, and it seems this is trying to be a copy of that but it's like a bad 4th rate version. Some of the lyrics, too- are pretty putrid.
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Post by when the pawn... on May 27, 2009 18:03:58 GMT -5
I don't think I Believe was all that good..Fantasia just made it amazing.
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Post by sunpeach on May 27, 2009 23:52:44 GMT -5
That may be true-- she was really really AMAZING on it. The melody was stronger than the lyrics.
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Post by rellybois on May 28, 2009 0:57:12 GMT -5
I don't think I Believe was all that good..Fantasia just made it amazing. Very true
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Post by rellybois on May 28, 2009 0:57:37 GMT -5
No Boundaries is one of the worst songs ever on radio
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Post by hellothere on May 28, 2009 2:29:23 GMT -5
^I agree with you. However Simon is usually on the $ and he said Adam would be an international star. I don't see it myself but maybe it'll happen. Simon isn't always right. He only caught on to Kelly's potential late in season 1. And he thought Fantasia would be a superstar. He often changes his mind, or backtracks, just to seem like he's always right. But if Adam is going to be a superstar anywhere, I can see it more in Europe than in the US. But this is coming from somebody who has no idea what Adam's "style" is since to me he seems like a male Cher circa 1984, and I have no clue where that fits with today's music. A little late seeing this, but I am in total agreement. Anybody who makes a prediction on an artist's future based on Simon Cowell needs their head examined. Let's see some of the dumber ideas Mr. Cowell has had: He saw huge star potential in Ruben Studdard, Tamyra Gray and, my personal favorite, LOL, Blake Lewis, whom he once called an "international pop star in the making" - where have I heard that before? - on Oprah. He even had the balls to once say that he preferred Kellie Pickler to Carrie Underwood. What????? Yes, he did, during the semifinals of S5. He saw limited or no potential in Kelly Clarkson, Chris Daughtry, Jennifer Hudson and Jordin Sparks. Bottom line: Simon is whacked out of his damn mind. He goes with the flow and always says what he thinks will make him look brilliant at any given moment, hence his calling "Heartless" the best performance of the season after this year's top 3 performances. Adam sticks out like a sore thumb on a show like American Idol and therefore, he garners a great deal of attention. The makeup, costumes and screeching that make him stand out there would make him blend right in at "alternative" nightclubs all across the country. Being different and not having a discernable music style ( I have heard that his style is everything from rock or glam rock {does that even still exist in America?} to techno or dance {?} to ballads and Broadway or some sort of fusion) that differentiates you on Idol means nothing in the real world. And, quite frankly, for a sample of unknown genre or "fusion" Idol albums, see: Hicks, Taylor and Lewis, Blake. LOL Those who attempt something "new" post-Idol, which tends to be a huge departure from what they projected on the show, have fallen flat on their faces. Those who have had the most success have been able to take what they did on the show, release original material that fits the style they projected, and blend right in to an existing market (Kelly, Carrie and Daughtry have not succeeded because they were "new" or "radical" but because they were great in a genre that was already there and thriving). Those who have had more moderate success (Pickler, Jordin, the Davids) did the exact same thing, only with material that wasn't quite as strong - yet. I see Adam as falling into the category in between Hicks and Jordin, which would also include Bo Bice. Both were extremely popular on the show and stood out there but had no place for their antiquated music stylings in the music industry of today. The label felt the need to smooth Bo's edges for mass consumption, his fans were disappointed and the effort fell, while not completely flat, certainly not rounded, LOL. The same thing is likely to happen here unless, of course, RCA (bad, bad label, btw) suddenly and inexplicably finds this untapped, huge market for "Adam Lambert's Glam Rock Fusion of Ballads on Broadway's Techno Dance Floor Hot Mess". And, when Bo redux occurs, Simon will once again backtrack, with something along the lines of "America isn't ready for his talent" or "He is better suited to the stage". The second part: I think a lot of people already know.
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Post by Spacy-Haha on May 28, 2009 2:42:33 GMT -5
^^ post of the year
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Post by Bluesy on May 28, 2009 9:18:19 GMT -5
Blech! If angry hysterics float your boat, then I guess it would qualify as post of the year for you. Not for me, though.
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Post by atgs on May 28, 2009 9:47:45 GMT -5
Hellothere, you make very good points. Actually, to hear Adam talk about what he'll do with his album reminds me a lot of Blake Lewis. I feel like Adam doesn't really want to fit in one genre and wants to do everything at the same time which usually ends up in a big old mess. IMO, he's more a pop artist than a rock one. I don't think he can do rock at all. He should just try pop dance. Maybe the idol audience would leave him, but he could gain a new one. Just like season 6, this one wasn't very popular, and the runner up is more popular than the winner, so there are a lot of expectations for him. And yes, Simon says a lot of stuff. People like to remember when he's right and forget when he gets it all wrong.
On another note, why is this thread here? I don't think this song is going anywhere.
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Post by Spacy-Haha on May 28, 2009 11:54:18 GMT -5
Blech! If angry hysterics float your boat, then I guess it would qualify as post of the year for you. Not for me, though. Well, I think it is a great argument. From Adam's own mouth: Lambert hopes the party will continue with a new album he said will be "a little bit of everything": glam, rock, pop, electro, and funk. It sounds like a mess to me.
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Post by LordEctar on May 28, 2009 17:12:05 GMT -5
Do we know which label he is being put on yet? Kris was sent over to Jive Records.
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Post by Justin. on May 31, 2009 20:49:29 GMT -5
Do we know which label he is being put on yet? Kris was sent over to Jive Records. I believe Adam has been signed to RCA. Not positive though, that's what it lists on Wikipedia. But it looks like Adam is getting a lot of play at Alternative. So, were starting to figure out where he's going to shine on radio, with a song of his actually being on radio . even though it's not physically being released. :)
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Post by Matt4319 on May 31, 2009 21:02:02 GMT -5
"Adam Lambert's Glam Rock Fusion of Ballads on Broadway's Techno Dance Floor Hot Mess" I liked that phrase so much I quoted it on my Twitter.
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"Adam Lambert's Glam Rock Fusion of Ballads on Broadway's Techno Dance Floor Hot Mess" Since his song seems to be working on Alternative, he could title his album that. It would be very much in the same vein as that Fiona Apple album entitled When the pawn hits the conflicts he thinks like a king What he knows throws the blows when he goes to the fight And he'll win the whole thing before he enters the ring There's no body to batter when your mind is your might So when you go solo, you hold your own hand And remember that depth is the greatest of heights And if you know where you stand, then you know where to land And if you fall it won't matter, cuz you'll know that you're right.
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Post by evean on Jun 1, 2009 4:41:13 GMT -5
Simon isn't always right. He only caught on to Kelly's potential late in season 1. And he thought Fantasia would be a superstar. He often changes his mind, or backtracks, just to seem like he's always right. But if Adam is going to be a superstar anywhere, I can see it more in Europe than in the US. But this is coming from somebody who has no idea what Adam's "style" is since to me he seems like a male Cher circa 1984, and I have no clue where that fits with today's music. A little late seeing this, but I am in total agreement. Anybody who makes a prediction on an artist's future based on Simon Cowell needs their head examined. Let's see some of the dumber ideas Mr. Cowell has had: He saw huge star potential in Ruben Studdard, Tamyra Gray and, my personal favorite, LOL, Blake Lewis, whom he once called an "international pop star in the making" - where have I heard that before? - on Oprah. He even had the balls to once say that he preferred Kellie Pickler to Carrie Underwood. What????? Yes, he did, during the semifinals of S5. He saw limited or no potential in Kelly Clarkson, Chris Daughtry, Jennifer Hudson and Jordin Sparks. Bottom line: Simon is whacked out of his damn mind. He goes with the flow and always says what he thinks will make him look brilliant at any given moment, hence his calling "Heartless" the best performance of the season after this year's top 3 performances. Adam sticks out like a sore thumb on a show like American Idol and therefore, he garners a great deal of attention. The makeup, costumes and screeching that make him stand out there would make him blend right in at "alternative" nightclubs all across the country. Being different and not having a discernable music style ( I have heard that his style is everything from rock or glam rock {does that even still exist in America?} to techno or dance {?} to ballads and Broadway or some sort of fusion) that differentiates you on Idol means nothing in the real world. And, quite frankly, for a sample of unknown genre or "fusion" Idol albums, see: Hicks, Taylor and Lewis, Blake. LOL Those who attempt something "new" post-Idol, which tends to be a huge departure from what they projected on the show, have fallen flat on their faces. Those who have had the most success have been able to take what they did on the show, release original material that fits the style they projected, and blend right in to an existing market (Kelly, Carrie and Daughtry have not succeeded because they were "new" or "radical" but because they were great in a genre that was already there and thriving). Those who have had more moderate success (Pickler, Jordin, the Davids) did the exact same thing, only with material that wasn't quite as strong - yet. I see Adam as falling into the category in between Hicks and Jordin, which would also include Bo Bice. Both were extremely popular on the show and stood out there but had no place for their antiquated music stylings in the music industry of today. The label felt the need to smooth Bo's edges for mass consumption, his fans were disappointed and the effort fell, while not completely flat, certainly not rounded, LOL. The same thing is likely to happen here unless, of course, RCA (bad, bad label, btw) suddenly and inexplicably finds this untapped, huge market for "Adam Lambert's Glam Rock Fusion of Ballads on Broadway's Techno Dance Floor Hot Mess". And, when Bo redux occurs, Simon will once again backtrack, with something along the lines of "America isn't ready for his talent" or "He is better suited to the stage". The second part: I think a lot of people already know. I Agree on this. Also, regardless of how the fans say that the label would give Adam the freedom to make an album that he want, I doubt it would happen right away. The main thing now that the label want to focus would be to sell and sell and sell. I think he would have to go abit mainstream for it.
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Post by beach1 on Jun 3, 2009 8:37:50 GMT -5
Am I the only one that actually likes Adam's version of No Boundaries despite the trite lyrics? His version of it is sadder/darker than Kris' and Kris' voice sounds so generic/cliched in his version.
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Post by Justin. on Jun 3, 2009 13:47:36 GMT -5
Am I the only one that actually likes Adam's version of No Boundaries despite the trite lyrics? His version of it is sadder/darker than Kris' and Kris' voice sounds so generic/cliched in his version. i also prefer adam's to kris' version .
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Post by sunpeach on Jun 3, 2009 18:35:54 GMT -5
Simon isn't always right. He only caught on to Kelly's potential late in season 1. And he thought Fantasia would be a superstar. He often changes his mind, or backtracks, just to seem like he's always right. But if Adam is going to be a superstar anywhere, I can see it more in Europe than in the US. But this is coming from somebody who has no idea what Adam's "style" is since to me he seems like a male Cher circa 1984, and I have no clue where that fits with today's music. A little late seeing this, but I am in total agreement. Anybody who makes a prediction on an artist's future based on Simon Cowell needs their head examined. Let's see some of the dumber ideas Mr. Cowell has had: He saw huge star potential in Ruben Studdard, Tamyra Gray and, my personal favorite, LOL, Blake Lewis, whom he once called an "international pop star in the making" - where have I heard that before? - on Oprah. He even had the balls to once say that he preferred Kellie Pickler to Carrie Underwood. What????? Yes, he did, during the semifinals of S5. He saw limited or no potential in Kelly Clarkson, Chris Daughtry, Jennifer Hudson and Jordin Sparks. Bottom line: Simon is whacked out of his damn mind. He goes with the flow and always says what he thinks will make him look brilliant at any given moment, hence his calling "Heartless" the best performance of the season after this year's top 3 performances. Adam sticks out like a sore thumb on a show like American Idol and therefore, he garners a great deal of attention. The makeup, costumes and screeching that make him stand out there would make him blend right in at "alternative" nightclubs all across the country. Being different and not having a discernable music style ( I have heard that his style is everything from rock or glam rock {does that even still exist in America?} to techno or dance {?} to ballads and Broadway or some sort of fusion) that differentiates you on Idol means nothing in the real world. And, quite frankly, for a sample of unknown genre or "fusion" Idol albums, see: Hicks, Taylor and Lewis, Blake. LOL Those who attempt something "new" post-Idol, which tends to be a huge departure from what they projected on the show, have fallen flat on their faces. Those who have had the most success have been able to take what they did on the show, release original material that fits the style they projected, and blend right in to an existing market (Kelly, Carrie and Daughtry have not succeeded because they were "new" or "radical" but because they were great in a genre that was already there and thriving). Those who have had more moderate success (Pickler, Jordin, the Davids) did the exact same thing, only with material that wasn't quite as strong - yet. I see Adam as falling into the category in between Hicks and Jordin, which would also include Bo Bice. Both were extremely popular on the show and stood out there but had no place for their antiquated music stylings in the music industry of today. The label felt the need to smooth Bo's edges for mass consumption, his fans were disappointed and the effort fell, while not completely flat, certainly not rounded, LOL. The same thing is likely to happen here unless, of course, RCA (bad, bad label, btw) suddenly and inexplicably finds this untapped, huge market for "Adam Lambert's Glam Rock Fusion of Ballads on Broadway's Techno Dance Floor Hot Mess". And, when Bo redux occurs, Simon will once again backtrack, with something along the lines of "America isn't ready for his talent" or "He is better suited to the stage". The second part: I think a lot of people already know. To say he saw limited or no potential in Kelly, Daughtry and even Jennifer and is stretching it, to say the least. He never even gave Kelly a bad criticism, he was saying Daughtry should have won before season 5 was even over- the last 4 times Jennifer sang, he did nothing but praise her and did so more than the other judges.
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Post by erzo01 on Jun 6, 2009 1:47:20 GMT -5
This debuted at #38 in the RIANZ Singles Chart.
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