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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 28, 2009 14:44:29 GMT -5
Goes for adds at all 3 rock radio formats this week.
Heard this on my local Alt station earlier this month and for an unknown hard rock band, I was very impressed. Especially considering dude's voice, it'll be hard for them to escape Chevelle comparisons, but that's my analogy for this song: Chevelle buoyed by tasteful epic production.
It looks like they're from the Chicago area.
Unfortunately, the rest of the songs on their MySpace sound like generic 30 Seconds to Mars/Chevelle hybrids, all of perfect, 3:30 or less, radio single length. In the meantime, though, I'll be more than happy to champion this song's performance on the Alternative and Active Rock charts, hoping it at least gets there.
Their album Red Right Return comes out September 22.
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Post by pen on Jul 28, 2009 14:56:52 GMT -5
The drummer is from the band Relative Ash, which sounded a lot like Deftones, and personally I think Janus sounds a lot like a more melodic extension of Relative Ash's work. I've had this album for a year now and I'm glad they're finally seeing a major release. They're very good.
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Post by pen on Jul 28, 2009 14:57:22 GMT -5
It's hard for me to think of a band that sounds like 30 Seconds or Chevelle as generic since there are so few bands that sound like that anyway.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 28, 2009 16:05:31 GMT -5
It's hard for me to think of a band that sounds like 30 Seconds or Chevelle as generic since there are so few bands that sound like that anyway. 10 Years? Framing Hanley? Earshot? Taproot? Trust Company? Finger 11? Evans Blue? Strata? They're just a few that come to mind that sound like Chevelle's Tool influenced alt-metal. |
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Post by pen on Jul 28, 2009 16:08:56 GMT -5
It's hard for me to think of a band that sounds like 30 Seconds or Chevelle as generic since there are so few bands that sound like that anyway. 10 Years? Framing Hanley? Earshot? Taproot? Trust Company? Finger 11? Evans Blue? Strata? They're just a few that come to mind that sound like Chevelle's Tool influenced alt-metal. Not...really. Most of those bands sound nothing like Chevelle to me. Framing Hanley and Strata certainly not, and Finger Eleven sounds nothing like those bands anymore, they're doing their own thing. Trustcompany and Taproot sound nothing like Chevelle. 10 Years, Earshot, and Evans Blue may have a similar Tool influence to them and so I'm willing to buy those, but not really in the same way as Chevelle. Evans Blue has way more BB influence in them anyway and 10 Years and Earshot don't have the same heavy crunch as Chevelle. |
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Post by pen on Jul 28, 2009 16:10:42 GMT -5
To be honest it looks like you just rattled off a big list of melodic hard rock bands. Just because two bands are in the same genre doesn't mean they sound like each other.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 28, 2009 16:17:17 GMT -5
Well, no I actually just put down a number of bands that were influenced by Tool. Personally I don't think 30 Seconds to Mars and Chevelle sound similar.
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Post by pen on Jul 28, 2009 17:24:08 GMT -5
You really think Strata, Framing Hanley, Taproot, and Trustcompany were influenced by Tool? I don't hear Tool in any of those bands. Even Finger Eleven I'd say was more influenced by other alt metal bands like Korn and the Deftones than Tool.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 28, 2009 17:42:01 GMT -5
Well, Framing Hanley are more Incubus influenced. Taproot, Finger Eleven and Trust Company definitley. Strata are too to a lesser extent. This of course is judging by what i've seen on their offical websites & sites such as Rhapsody and Allmusic, with a bit of my judgement of what I hear in the bands added in.
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Post by pen on Jul 28, 2009 17:58:53 GMT -5
To be honest, and I'd never tell Nixon this cause he's a nice dude, but Framing Hanley just seem like another derivative modern rock cutoff to me. I'm not talking about their cover, I'm talking about the actual album I heard. I don't hear any Incubus influence in it. I don't really hear any influence of anything. It was just kind of there.
I'm not really sure why you'd say any of those bands are influenced by Tool. They sound nothing like Tool. Strata definitely doesn't even sound close to Tool, especially on their second album. Trustcompany, I really don't hear it. I hear way more Linkin Park in them than I do Tool. Taproot used to sound way more like a heavier Korn and then only later did they get more melodic, but even then, nothing like Tool. Maybe if you went into more detail in exactly how they are influenced, I could understand, but I do not hear anything in them that remotely sounds like Tool.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 28, 2009 18:10:21 GMT -5
To be honest, and I'd never tell Nixon this cause he's a nice dude, but Framing Hanley just seem like another derivative modern rock cutoff to me. I'm not talking about their cover, I'm talking about the actual album I heard. I don't hear any Incubus influence in it. I don't really hear any influence of anything. It was just kind of there. I'm not really sure why you'd say any of those bands are influenced by Tool. They sound nothing like Tool. Strata definitely doesn't even sound close to Tool, especially on their second album. Trustcompany, I really don't hear it. I hear way more Linkin Park in them than I do Tool. Taproot used to sound way more like a heavier Korn and then only later did they get more melodic, but even then, nothing like Tool. Maybe if you went into more detail in exactly how they are influenced, I could understand, but I do not hear anything in them that remotely sounds like Tool. I'm suprised that you can't hear the Incubus influence in Framing Hanley. They're like a screamo version of Incubus basically. Again this not escpecially my opinion, is more fact that they're influenced by Tool (or Helmet). But personally I do hear similarity in the vocals. |
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Post by pen on Jul 28, 2009 18:23:29 GMT -5
Ehhhhh. Still not really feeling it. Let's just agree to disagree.
It's been a long time since I listened to The Moment though, so maybe I'll have to try it again, for Nixon's sake.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 28, 2009 18:27:15 GMT -5
I agree with your agreement to agree to disagree. I mean, it's the bands that are saying they're influenced by Tool. Not me.
Yes, you should give "The Moment" a second chance (to see their Incubus influence).
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Post by pen on Jul 28, 2009 19:11:59 GMT -5
Well hell, Fred Durst says Limp Bizkit is influenced by Tool, and I'll pay you a million dollars if you can figure out how that connection works.
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Post by pen on Jul 28, 2009 19:13:50 GMT -5
I mean, let's be honest, if your band isn't doing anything at all that Tool does except maybe try to sing like Maynard, are you really influenced by Tool or are you just full of shit? That's the real question here.
I'm almost certain Maynard said something along these lines at one point too.
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Post by Ron57 on Jul 28, 2009 19:45:59 GMT -5
I took a quick look at this and for some reason I read it as "Penus"
Probably because it's Janus, and i saw the last poster as "pen"
But it still made me lol a little.
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Post by American Idiot on Jul 28, 2009 20:43:55 GMT -5
I took a quick look at this and for some reason I read it as "Penus" Probably because it's Janus, and i saw the last poster as "pen" But it still made me lol a little. As I just did too when reading your post  |
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Post by Ron57 on Jul 28, 2009 21:16:43 GMT -5
I took a quick look at this and for some reason I read it as "Penus" Probably because it's Janus, and i saw the last poster as "pen" But it still made me lol a little. As I just did too when reading your post I'm here all day.  |
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 29, 2009 0:40:29 GMT -5
It's hard for me to think of a band that sounds like 30 Seconds or Chevelle as generic since there are so few bands that sound like that anyway. Well, all I meant was that the songs sounded like combinations of both bands, but not as good as a song either band would write themselves. Well hell, Fred Durst says Limp Bizkit is influenced by Tool, and I'll pay you a million dollars if you can figure out how that connection works. Oh, I can definitely hear that in places on Three Dollar Bill, Yall$. Now you're gonna make me listen to the whole album again just to point out the spots. On a side note, I always figured their song title "Stinkfinger" wouldn't exist without "Stinkfist." Is that good enough for $250 thou? |
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Post by Gravity on Jul 29, 2009 1:07:36 GMT -5
Pen, it took like 20 tries for me to get into "The Moment" but it did finally happen at some point, so be sure to give it a another chance. :)
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 29, 2009 1:11:26 GMT -5
If it takes 20 tries, is it really worth it when that time could be spent getting into a band who you're obsessed with right from the get-go. I mean what about Framing Hanley deserves that sort of effort just to kinda like them.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 29, 2009 3:06:59 GMT -5
Oh and I just listened to "Eyesore." Nick is right, this is really awesome! I haven't checked out the others yet though.
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Post by pen on Jul 29, 2009 3:13:31 GMT -5
If it takes 20 tries, is it really worth it when that time could be spent getting into a band who you're obsessed with right from the get-go. I mean what about Framing Hanley deserves that sort of effort just to kinda like them. Well, normally I wouldn't, but Nixon is a regular on our other forum so I dunno about Gravity, but I figure maybe I owe him that much. |
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jul 30, 2009 2:14:13 GMT -5
Well hell, Fred Durst says Limp Bizkit is influenced by Tool, and I'll pay you a million dollars if you can figure out how that connection works. It means....he listened to a Tool album, and thought they were good....I don't think he knows what influenced means |
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 30, 2009 3:21:28 GMT -5
It means....he listened to a Tool album, and thought they were good....I don't think he knows what influenced means OK, now that you're chiming in, too, it's not the riffs or the song structures. It's mostly the quieter moment(s) in the middle of at least one or two songs on TDBY. I haven't gone back and listened yet, but at least one of the song's has Fred throwing on some kind of vocal filter and murmuring like Maynard does in say, "Stinkfist." I'd say that's good enough for $500,000, pen. I'll take the other half after I point out the specific song(s). |
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jul 30, 2009 3:52:38 GMT -5
lol...i was just f'n around. I didn't even pay enough attention to Limp Bizkit, I couldn't really tell you if they had Tool influences or not. I was never a fan.
For the record, this song seems alright but I think it would have a quick burn out factor if I even bother to listen to it more. It may have to hit me at a different time. I was kind of hoping it would suck donkey balls just so i could make the bad joke of ... "it should be called Earsore", but alas its not bad enough for that.
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Post by lockebox on Sept 1, 2009 10:41:56 GMT -5
Top 50 - Active
60 50 JANUS - Eyesore 126 77 49 0.312
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Post by metalfan87 on Sept 1, 2009 14:43:56 GMT -5
what a surprise
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Post by lockebox on Sept 16, 2009 13:32:42 GMT -5
51 45 JANUS - Eyesore 151 118 33 0.311
Adds date: September 28th (fmqb)
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Sept 17, 2009 2:12:32 GMT -5
Oddly, this song had a quick burnout with me. I've been leaving it alone for a little bit, hoping it'll be fresh again shortly.
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