कामसूत्र
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Post by कामसूत्र on Nov 14, 2009 16:46:23 GMT -5
I thought the video was just :'(. This could have been done so much better. Even just using a live performance from one of the television appearances would have been a better idea.
I think Mariah looks good though. :)
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Post by @Fifteen on Nov 14, 2009 16:48:45 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe this song didn't shoot up to #1 with a +1,500 bullet weekly.
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Post by Ace on Nov 14, 2009 21:00:20 GMT -5
I liked Obsessed, btw. I thought it could have been better, but it was good, in a sort of comedy. This is just a joke... or saying it better, this represents FAKE! She looks as fake as her monstrous boobs at the MOAIA cover or as fake as her attempt to revive 1990 Mariah or as fake as her will to create good music (she is now only looking for the possible hits and good looks, ugh!) omg DEAD @ monstrous boobs...LOLOLOLOL
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Post by Choco on Nov 14, 2009 21:10:39 GMT -5
wow, It would have been better to not release any video for this flop. That was an awful video.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2009 21:49:04 GMT -5
This video is so awful! I seriously can't watch it and keep a straight face.
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Post by Illusions on Nov 14, 2009 21:57:03 GMT -5
That will win Video of the Year at the VMA's next year...jk...it was pretty bad!
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Post by abc on Nov 15, 2009 1:14:54 GMT -5
wow, It would have been better to not release any video for this flop. That was an awful video.
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Post by beachboi69 on Nov 15, 2009 3:42:59 GMT -5
I liked Obsessed, btw. I thought it could have been better, but it was good, in a sort of comedy. This is just a joke... or saying it better, this represents FAKE! She looks as fake as her monstrous boobs at the MOAIA cover or as fake as her attempt to revive 1990 Mariah or as fake as her will to create good music (she is now only looking for the possible hits and good looks, ugh!) I hope I don`t get hate mail... But I agree this is horride.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2009 8:25:41 GMT -5
wow, It would have been better to not release any video for this flop. That was an awful video. I know it's not her best video, but she needs it for the international community...
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Post by rellybois on Nov 15, 2009 23:00:56 GMT -5
Wow @ the IWTKWLI video... just wow
All I have to say is: Bad Romance, move over
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Post by gin on Nov 15, 2009 23:01:59 GMT -5
THRILLER, move over.
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Post by gin on Nov 15, 2009 23:06:39 GMT -5
Oliver!, take a back seat.
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Post by summers on Nov 15, 2009 23:41:28 GMT -5
I know I said we shouldn't laugh but this is a pretty good play by play of the video someone wrote. It's kind of silly though. 0:07 – Camera zooms into a computer generated stadium that looks like it’s from the Sim City video game.
0:27 – Mariah, complete with her 90’s curls, stands in the middle of a butterfly to remind everybody of the “classic Mariah”.
0: 39 – The audience sway back and forth like a group of hypnotised zombies entranced by Mariah’s powerful performance.
0:45 – A gay couple embrace.
0:58 – The camera zooms in on a feeble young woman in a wheelchair as Mariah sings “In my life, there’s been heartache and pain…”
1:09 – The gay couple gaze proudly at Mariah.
1:18 – A sinister looking child stares up to his father, and then into the camera. His eyes have no soul.
1:41 – More fathers and their young sons look lovingly at one another.
1:55 – A lonely looking security guard searches for love. And fails.
2:08 – The wheelchair bound young woman returns at the exact same moment as last time. “In my life, there’s been heartache and pain…”
2:18 – A middle-aged mother who looks like she’s on welfare tears up and rests her hand on her heart, swaying in unison with her two grown daughters.
2:42 Everybody starts smiling and is filled with hope as Mariah sings the chorus.
3:00 – A gospel choir are magically cut and pasted into the video behind Mariah. The stadium still looks like it’s from Sim City, as does the grass.
3:25 – Everybody is happy. Mariah has saved the day.
LOL. I have to agree with this! Still love the song though.
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Post by johnm1120 on Nov 16, 2009 23:23:14 GMT -5
It was a simple straight forward video, but the random choir appearing just made it cheesy and left me dumbified.
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Post by Minimalism on Nov 17, 2009 1:38:42 GMT -5
Wow at that video. I've never seen so much cheese oozes out of my computer screen. On a more positive note, the song itself has actually grown on me. I didn't skip it when it comes on shuffle anymore, so that's an improvement I guess.
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Post by botoxic on Nov 17, 2009 2:51:10 GMT -5
This is BY FAR one of Mimi's best videos and deserves to be seen by the masses. I can't believe that just because IWTKWFI underperformed only slightly, this video may tragically be ignored - it almost certainly would have made people love this song even more. I can't imagine why IDJ waited so long to release this visual masterpiece. Maybe because the special effects are so jaw-droppingly unbelievable.
I hope that once H8U smashes up the charts and spends numerous weeks at #1 on the Hot 100, the obvious next single choice will be a re-release of IWTKWFI, especially now that it has this amazing video. Then IWTKWFI will follow H8U's footsteps straight into the numba 1 position and become the biggest smash of Mimi's career! GO MIMI!!!
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Post by Robot Love on Nov 17, 2009 4:08:33 GMT -5
This is BY FAR one of Mimi's best videos and deserves to be seen by the masses. I can't believe that just because IWTKWFI underperformed only slightly, this video may tragically be ignored - it almost certainly would have made people love this song even more. I can't imagine why IDJ waited so long to release this visual masterpiece. Maybe because the special effects are so jaw-droppingly unbelievable. I hope that once H8U smashes up the charts and spends numerous weeks at #1 on the Hot 100, the obvious next single choice will be a re-release of IWTKWFI, especially now that it has this amazing video. Then IWTKWFI will follow H8U's footsteps straight into the numba 1 position and become the biggest smash of Mimi's career! GO MIMI!!!
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Post by abc on Nov 17, 2009 4:19:42 GMT -5
This is BY FAR one of Mimi's best videos and deserves to be seen by the masses. I can't believe that just because IWTKWFI underperformed only slightly, this video may tragically be ignored - it almost certainly would have made people love this song even more. I can't imagine why IDJ waited so long to release this visual masterpiece. Maybe because the special effects are so jaw-droppingly unbelievable. I hope that once H8U smashes up the charts and spends numerous weeks at #1 on the Hot 100, the obvious next single choice will be a re-release of IWTKWFI, especially now that it has this amazing video. Then IWTKWFI will follow H8U's footsteps straight into the numba 1 position and become the biggest smash of Mimi's career! GO MIMI!!! lol.
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Post by nitro on Nov 17, 2009 8:54:39 GMT -5
I think the video is not bad and while it's cheesy for the US and UK, it will do well in international countries that love cheesiness... I mean come on, the cover itself is kinda cheesy itself... the video should match. A sophisticated video for this would be weird. I think the video is perfect for the song and for the international audience. Is it one of her best videos: definitely not. But does it suit the song and the audience it should target: yes.
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Post by Carlitoz on Nov 17, 2009 13:14:02 GMT -5
Hey, Nitro, what section of the international community or which countries would you categorize under 'cheesiness lovers'? I'm curious. You may be underestimating some countries out there and they're ability to spot cheesiness miles away. I don't want to insult anybody from any countries, but based on my experience on videos I've seen when traveling, I've seen many bad and cheesy videos coming from India, Egypt and some Asian countries. Of course some of the worst videos are the ones made for Tejano/Banda/Grupera type of music for part of the Mexican community. Maybe among those videos, the video for IWTKWLI IS KING. Again, I do not want to generalize because there can be really amazing videos coming out of those countries and for sure I've seen great pop music videos from Mexico too. I think the video is not bad and while it's cheesy for the US and UK, it will do well in international countries that love cheesiness... I mean come on, the cover itself is kinda cheesy itself... the video should match. A sophisticated video for this would be weird. I think the video is perfect for the song and for the international audience. Is it one of her best videos: definitely not. But does it suit the song and the audience it should target: yes.
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Post by nitro on Nov 17, 2009 17:16:40 GMT -5
Hey, Nitro, what section of the international community or which countries would you categorize under 'cheesiness lovers'? I'm curious. You may be underestimating some countries out there and they're ability to spot cheesiness miles away. I don't want to insult anybody from any countries, but based on my experience on videos I've seen when traveling, I've seen many bad and cheesy videos coming from India, Egypt and some Asian countries. Of course some of the worst videos are the ones made for Tejano/Banda/Grupera type of music for part of the Mexican community. Maybe among those videos, the video for IWTKWLI IS KING. Again, I do not want to generalize because there can be really amazing videos coming out of those countries and for sure I've seen great pop music videos from Mexico too. I think the video is not bad and while it's cheesy for the US and UK, it will do well in international countries that love cheesiness... I mean come on, the cover itself is kinda cheesy itself... the video should match. A sophisticated video for this would be weird. I think the video is perfect for the song and for the international audience. Is it one of her best videos: definitely not. But does it suit the song and the audience it should target: yes. Lol... I'd rather not comment on which countries like cheesiness, because I can't say I'm an authority on that, but I am sure that there are people in some counties who would like it. And it's actually a nice video for the AC crowd here in the US, which is who they are catering the song towards. It's not meant to target 12 year old girls like Obsessed was, this is meant for a more mature crowd, hence the whole cheesiness factor.
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Post by michael7627 on Nov 17, 2009 21:46:02 GMT -5
Can we not talk about this song anymore...this song killed Mariah's cd and H.A.T.E.U. That is so sad! Damn Mariah what were you thinking releasing this epic failure! Should of released H.A.T.E.U. 2nd and ur album would have sold much more and she probably would have had another top 10!
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Post by michael7627 on Nov 17, 2009 21:51:57 GMT -5
Exactly one month ago, superstar Mariah Carey released her 12th studio album ‘Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel’ with a far from fantastic debut on the Billboard charts. Not only did the record fail to capture the top spot, but it spawned the lowest first week sales of her career with only 168, 000 units sold. To date, the album has managed to sell only a dismal 275, 000 copies.
This is beyond random. ‘Obsessed’ is a certified platinum hit (which I’m sure made a certain other poster on this site gag) and the album got way better reviews than the lukewarm ‘E=MC²’. Add that to strong material and impressive live vocal performances, many thought the album would have been a huge hit.
I sense the real downfall of the album came with the choice of ‘I Want To Know What Love Is’ as the “first” single (o please). The label thought it would be a guaranteed ’stone-groove smash hit wonder’. However, just because critics favour a track does not mean that the DJ’s or radio will support it. The same thing happened with the garbage that was ‘Bye Bye’.
It’s a fact that Mariah herself was pushing for ‘H.A.T.E.U’ to be released instead, voicing her annoyance almost every time she sang ‘I Want To Know What Love Is’ in concert. No wonder there have been murmurings of her planning to leave Def Jam for a while now. I’d imagine an artist of Mariah’s caliber does not like to be told what to do in the vein a random R&B chick would, especially when they are proven right. Whether this album will even go Gold remains to be seen…
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Post by TroublemakerOlly on Nov 17, 2009 22:02:42 GMT -5
This is BY FAR one of Mimi's best videos and deserves to be seen by the masses. I can't believe that just because IWTKWFI underperformed only slightly, this video may tragically be ignored - it almost certainly would have made people love this song even more. I can't imagine why IDJ waited so long to release this visual masterpiece. Maybe because the special effects are so jaw-droppingly unbelievable. I hope that once H8U smashes up the charts and spends numerous weeks at #1 on the Hot 100, the obvious next single choice will be a re-release of IWTKWFI, especially now that it has this amazing video. Then IWTKWFI will follow H8U's footsteps straight into the numba 1 position and become the biggest smash of Mimi's career! GO MIMI!!! Dead
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Post by TroublemakerOlly on Nov 17, 2009 22:03:13 GMT -5
wow, It would have been better to not release any video for this flop. That was an awful video. I know it's not her best video, but she needs it for the international community... but she needs it for the gay community
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Post by nitro on Nov 18, 2009 16:03:31 GMT -5
How is this doing internationally? Is the international promo helping at all?
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Post by Where will Mimi be? on Nov 19, 2009 7:34:47 GMT -5
Number one in brazil and top 10 japan! International mega hit!
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Post by TR on Nov 19, 2009 7:46:26 GMT -5
If you got that from hot100brasil.com, then it's fake.
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Post by Legoman on Nov 20, 2009 0:08:34 GMT -5
Wow at the longetivity of this thread!
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Post by Junkiex on Nov 20, 2009 0:20:41 GMT -5
The "international community" is not a garbage can where artists can just throw whatever they want to and expect people will eat it up. International fans are VERY demanding, and, actually, Mariah's core market is the US, not other countries, so it's not like this kind of "groundbreaking, OMG DEM GAYZ ON TV!" video will help her at all! She did not need this video for the international community, neither did we need this kind of crap, no matter what its target audience was!
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