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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 26, 2010 11:12:12 GMT -5
1. TELL THE TRUTH: So far, Jason Aldean has been perfect with his Wide Open CD. The third single release, The Truth is his third #1 off the CD (and fourth overall). It follows: 1. Why-2006-from his self-titled debut 2. She's Country-2009 3. Big Green Tractor-2009 4. The Truth-2010 2. THE FIRST AND SECOND BIGGEST HIT: Miranda Lambert settles into #2 with White Liar. It is her biggest hit to date. It is the second biggest hit by a Nashville Star contestant. The top five are: 1. Gettin' You Home The Black Dress Song-Chris Young-2009-#1 2. White Liar-Lambert-2010-#2 so far! 3. Sweet Southern Comfort-Buddy Jewell-2004-#3 4. Help Pour Out The Rain Lacey's Song-Jewell-2003-#3 5. Gunpowder And Lead-Lambert-2008-#7 3. LET THE DUEL BEGIN: Reba McEntire debuts at #57 with I Keep On Lovin' You. Meanwhile, Steel Magnolia is at #22 with Keep On Lovin' You. McEntire is on the Valory label while Steel Magnolia is on the sister Big Machine label. 4. VALENTINE'S DAY COMES EARLY: Taylor Swift debuts a song from the upcoming movie Valentine's Day. Today Was A Fairytale makes its first appearance at #52. In the meantime, the title track of her current CD, Fearless is at #18, making it her tenth major (top 20) hit. 5. STILL IN THE TOP 20: Lady Antebellum left the charts at #6 last week with their monster #1 hit Need You Now. They are at #20 with the follow up American Honey. 6. THE DECADE THAT (JUST) WAS: These were the top hits during the last week of January between 2000-2009: 2000: Breathe-Faith Hill-Warner Bros. 2001: Tell Her-Lonestar-BNA 2002: Good Morning Beautiful-Steve Holy-Curb 2003: 19 Somethin'-Mark Wills-Mercury 2004: There Goes My Life-Kenny Chesney-BNA 2005: Awful, Beautiful Life-Darryl Worley-Dreamworks 2006: Jesus, Take The Wheel-Carrie Underwood-Arista 2007: Watching You-Rodney Atkins-Curb 2008: Letter To Me-Brad Paisley-Arista 2009: Country Boy-Alan Jackson-Arista 7. THEIR TEN BIGGEST: Conway Twitty had the most #1 hits between 1980-2006. These are his ten biggest. First number is weeks at #1, followed by weeks in the top 40. 1. Hello Darlin'-1970-4-18 2. You've Never Been This Far Before-1973-3-16 3. Happy Birthday Darlin'-1979-3-11 4. After The Fire Is Gone-with Loretta Lynn-1971-2-14 5. She Needs Someone To Hold Her When She Cries-1973-2-14 6. I See The Want To In Your Eyes-1974-2-13 7. Slow Hand-1982-2-10 8. Touch The Hand-1975-2-10 9. Fifteen Years Ago-1970-1-16 10. Lead Me On-with Loretta Lynn-1971-1-15 8. MILESTONE TOP TEN CHART: George Strait did it for 19 consecutive years (1982-2000) and has the overall record. Alabama did it for 14 consecutive years (1980-1993). Even Brooks & Dunn did it for eight years in a row (1991-1998). What did they do? They are the male, group, and duo that scored #1 hits during the time periods shown. So the question is: Who is the female artist with the most consecutive years of having #1 hits? Her name is Loretta Lynn and she scored her 16th (and final) #1 hit 32 years ago this week with Out Of My Head And Back In My Bed (the 12th consecutive year of Lynn having a #1 hit). As we all know, Lynn was born the ultimate coal miner's daughter in 1935 (happy 75th birthday in April!). She married Oliver Lynn in 1948 and moved to Washington State a year later (when she became a mother at the age of 14!). Ten years later, she signed to the Zero label and cut her first hit, I'm A Honky Tonk Girl. Loretta and 'Mooney' travelled all around the country to promote the record. Because of their hard work, Girl peaked at #14 in 1960. Decca was impressed and signed her in 1961. Her first hit with Decca became her first top ten. Success peaked at #6 in 1962 (the same year she joined the Grand Ole Opry). She scored nine major (top 20) hits between 1963-1966. They were: 1. The Other Woman-1963-#13 2. Before I'm Over You-1964-#4 3. Wine, Women, And Song-1964-#3 4. Mr. And Mrs. Used To Be-with Ernest Tubb-1964-#11 5. Happy Birthday-1965-#3 6. Blue Kentucky Girl-1965-#7 7. The Home You're Tearin' Down-1965-#10 8. Dear Uncle Sam-1966-#4 9. You Ain't Woman Enough-1966-#2 Lynn finally had her first chart topping hit in 1967 with Don't Come Home A'Drinkin' With Lovin' On Your Mind. 1967 was the year she won her first Female Vocalist of the Year from the C.M.A.. She scored three more #1 hits: 1. Fist City-1968 2. Woman Of The World Leave My World Alone-1969 3. Coal Miner's Daughter-1970 While she was charting with title #1, she met someone who would make them the most successful duo in country music: Conway Twitty. They professed a deep admiration for each other. Between 1971-1981, they charted twelve top ten hits. They won the C.M.A. Vocal Duo of the Year Award between 1972-1975. Their chart topping duets were: 1. After The Fire Is Gone-1971-chart wise, her biggest hit 2. Lead Me On-1971 3. Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man-1973 4. As Soon As I Hang Up The Phone-1974 5. Feelin's-1975 While she was enjoying those #1 duets with Twitty, she also topped the charts with these solo hits: 1. One's On The Way-1972 2. Rated 'X'-1973 3. Love Is The Foundation-1973 4. Trouble In Paradise-1974 She won the C.M.A. Female Vocalist Award in 1972 and 1973. She won it from the A.C.M. in 1971 and 1973-1975. She became the first female Entertainer of the Year by the C.M.A. in 1972 and by the A.C.M. in 1975. Because of her renewed popularity, she topped the charts three more times: 1. Somebody Somewhere Don't Know What He's Missin' Tonight-1976 2. She's Got You-1977 3. Out Of My Head And Back In My Bed-1978 A year after title #3 became her last #1 hit, she became the second recipient of the A.C.M. Artist of the Decade. A year after that, a movie of her life was made (Coal Miner's Daughter) starring Sissy Spacek, who won the Academy Award for portraying Lynn. She became the first female artist to score 50 top ten hits when I Still Believe In Waltzes (with Twitty) hit #2 in 1981. Only Dolly Parton (55) and Reba McEntire (58) have more top tens as far as female artists are concerned. Lynn's major (top 20) hits since that last duet with Twitty were: 1. I Lie-1982-#9 2. Making Love From Memory-1982-#19 3. Heart Don't Do This To Me-1985-#19 (her 69th and final top 40 hit) She was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame in 1988. Five years later, Twitty died at the same hospital Mooney was staying in. Mooney died three years later, ending a 48 year marriage. More recently, she saw two of her daughters record as The Lynns. She also released a CD with an unusual producer: Jack White from The White Stripes. Van Lear Rose received critical acclaim and won Grammy Awards for Best Country Album and Best Country Collaboration with Vocals with White himself! This is what the chart looked like back then:
BILLBOARD TOP TEN FOR WEEK ENDING JANUARY 28, 1978: 1. OUT OF MY HEAD AND BACK IN MY BED-LORETTA LYNN-MCA 2. What A Difference You've Made In My Life-Ronnie Milsap-RCA 3. You're The One-the Oak Ridge Boys-ABC 4. To Daddy-Emmylou Harris-Warner Bros. 5. Middle Age Crazy-Jerry Lee Lewis-Mercury 6. I Just Wish You Were Someone I Love-the Gatlin Bros.-Monument 7. Don't Break The Heart that Loves You-Margo Smith-Warner Bros. 8. My Way-Elvis Presley-RCA 9. Take This Job And Shove It-Johnny Paycheck-Epic 10. Colorado Kool Aid-Johnny Paycheck-Epic
P.S.: I do not know why Billboard is showing a double-sided Johnny Paycheck hit, but they are. In reality, I do not know who is really at #10. P.S.: Who is the female artist in second place? It is Dolly Parton. She topped the charts 15 times in 11 consecutive years (1977-1987).
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jan 26, 2010 18:22:16 GMT -5
I thought that Colorado Kool-Aid by Johnny Paycheck only reached #50 as a B-side. I'm thinking that they meant Take This Job And Shove It/Colorado Kool-Aid and when they saw it, they put Take at #9 and Colorado at #10.
If I'm not mistaken, Rex Allen Jr.'s "Lonely Street" was in the Top 10 at that time. Maybe that's the song that was at #10 that week.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 27, 2010 10:47:55 GMT -5
I must say, drummerman2009, you just might have picked the right song to fill out this week's top ten chart feature. I looked up the Rex Allen, Jr. song and found out it entered the top 40 on the 11-26-77 chart (when Waylon Jennings was #1 with The Wurlitzer Prize I Don't Want To Get Over You). It was at #10 for the 01-07-78 chart when Johnny Paycheck was at #1 with Take This Job And Shove It. It made its peak position at #8 for the 01-21-78 chart when What A Difference You've Made In My Life by Ronnie Milsap was #1. Maybe it went back down to #10 during the time Loretta Lynn was at #1 with Out Of My Head And Back In My Bed. I must say, it would be a very good guess! You are correct to say that Colorado Kool Aid was the b-side to the ONLY #1 hit Paycheck had and it did peak at #50. That is why it is NOT listed in my Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits. The only top 40 a and b-sided hit Paycheck had was the follow up to Job. Georgia In A Jug made #17 in 1978 while the b-side Me And The I.R.S. peaked at #33.
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Post by Fanofctrymusic on Feb 1, 2010 15:15:32 GMT -5
Country Songs *** No. 1 *** "The Truth" Jason Aldean Greatest Gainer No. 4 "Why Don't We Just Dance" Josh Turner Hot Shot Debut No. 49 "Turning Home" David Nail Debut No. 51 "Still" Tim McGraw Debut No. 60 "Close" Rascal Flatts
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 2, 2010 11:02:37 GMT -5
1. TWICE THE TRUTH: Jason Aldean spends a second week at the top with The Truth. He has now spent eight weeks at #1 with his four chart toppers. The songs and weeks at #1 are: 1. Why-2006-1 2. She's Country-2009-1 3. Big Green Tractor-2009-4 4. The Truth-2010-2 so far 2. GRAMMY CHART: These are where this year's Grammy winners place on this week's chart: 10. Temporary Home-Carrie Underwood-Best Country Collaboration With Vocals 13. Til Summer Comes Around-Keith Urban-Best Male Country Vocal Perormance 15. Highway 20 Ride-Zac Brown Band-Best New Artist 16. Fearless-Taylor Swift-Best Female Country Vocal Performance, Best Country Song, Best Country Album, and Best Album 17. American Honey-Lady Antebellum-Best Country Performance By A Duo Or Group With Vocals 42. Today Was A Fairytale-Swift-see above 3. KELLIE'S COMPARISONS: Kellie Pickler collected her fifth major (top 20) hit last week with Didn't You Know How Much I Loved You. It was at #19 with 22 weeks on. It is now at #18 with 23 weeks on. Her first top ten hit, Best Days Of Your Life (#9 in 2009) took 24 weeks to hit the top 20 (#20 on the 05-09-09 chart). 4. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?: When you are the owner of your own record label, you give yourself top priority. That is the case with Toby Keith, who scores the first top ten of the newly merged Show Dog-Universal label. Cryin' For Me Wayman's Song is at #9 for the week. 5. VALENTINE'S DAY PART II: Jewel (besides Taylor Swift) has a song on the charts from the upcoming movie Valentine's Day. Stay Here Forever is at #48 this week. 6. THE TOP SELLERS: These were the top selling CDs during the first week in February during the 2000s: 2000: Fly-the Dixie Chicks-Monument 2001: Coyote Ugly-Soundtrack-Curb 2002: Drive-Alan Jackson-Arista 2003: Home-the Dixie Chicks-Monument 2004: Shock'n Y'all-Toby Keith-Dreamworks 2005: Greatest Hits-Shania Twain-Mercury 2006: Some Hearts-Carrie Underwood-Arista 2007: Some Hearts-Carrie Underwood-Arista 2008: Taylor Swift-Taylor Swift-Big Machine 2009: Fearless-Taylor Swift-Big Machine 7. THEIR TEN BIGGEST: Let's review. Al Dexter had the most #1 hits between 1944-1948. Then Eddy Arnold had the most between 1948-1980. Conway Twitty took over between 1980-2006. Now, we have come to the current artist with the most #1s over the past three and a half years, George Strait. These are his ten biggest. First number is weeks at #1, followed by the second number-weeks in the top 40. 1. Love Without End, Amen-1990-5-20 2. One Night At A Time-1997-5-20 3. I've Come To Expect It From You-1990-5-19 4. Write This Down-1999-4-32 5. Check Yes Or No-1995-4-18 6. Carrying Your Love With Me-1997-4-16 7. The Best Day-2000-3-27 8. I Just Want To Dance With You-1998-3-21 9. You Know Me Better Than That-1991-3-19 10. Carried Away-1996-3-14 P.S.: I AM taking personal requests. If you want to see how your favorite songs stack up by your favorite artists, I will do so for you! Remember, this does NOT replace your personal favorites. It is purely based on chart performance! 8. MILESTONE TOP TEN CHART: You tell me how hot a record seller Garth Brooks was during the 1990s. Of course, it helps to have a #1 single at the time-What She's Doing Now, chart wise, his second biggest hit.
BILLBOARD TOP TEN FOR WEEK ENDING FEBRUARY 1, 1992: LAST WEEK-THIS WEEK-TITLE-ARTIST-LABEL 01. 01. ROPIN' THE WIND-GARTH BROOKS-CAPITOL 02. 02. NO FENCES-GARTH BROOKS-CAPITOL 05. 03. GARTH BROOKS-GARTH BROOKS-CAPITOL 03. 04. For My Broken Heart-Reba McEntire-MCA 04. 05. It's All About To Change-Travis Tritt-Warner Bros. 06. 06. Pocket Full Of Gold-Vince Gill-MCA 08. 07. Ten Strait Hits-George Strait-MCA 11. 08. All I Can Be-Collin Raye-Epic 07. 09. Don't Rock The Jukebox-Alan Jackson-Arista 09. 10. Trisha Yearwood-Trisha Yearwood-MCA
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Post by northerncountry on Feb 2, 2010 11:28:10 GMT -5
Now, we have come to the current artist with the most #1s over the past three and a half years, George Strait. What about Carrie Underwood or Brad Paisley? From what I can see, George had 3 #1's in the past 3 years (1 in 2009, 1 in 2008 and 1 in 2007) and then had 2 in 2006. Carrie had 1 in 2009, 3 in 2008, 2 in 2007 and 2 more in 2006. And what about Brad Paisley? Before "Welcome To The Future", he hit #1 in BB with every single he released in the last three and a half years?
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 2, 2010 11:41:21 GMT -5
I am talking about all time. If you were to read the opening statements, Conway Twitty had the most #1s between 1980-2006. Then George Strait took over when Give It Away became his 41st #1 hit. I am not necessarily saying Strait had the most over the past three and a half years, but is the current king of #1 hits!
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Post by northerncountry on Feb 2, 2010 11:47:34 GMT -5
OK, I see what you were saying. The way it was worded, I thought you meant that Eddy Arnold had the most hits from the time period of 1948-1980, not that he was the leader in the most #1 hits for the entire BB chart history during that period of time.
I was wondering why you came up with 1948-1980, as Eddy's last #1 hit was in 1968.
Now it all makes perfect sense.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 2, 2010 12:31:23 GMT -5
Al Dexter had his 7th #1 hit in 1946 with Wine, Women, And Song in 1946. Then Eddy Arnold became the first to collect an 8th #1 with A Heart Full Of Love For A Handful Of Kisses in 1948. He would collect his 28th and final #1 hit in 1968 with Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye. Conway Twitty was the first to collect a 29th #1 hit with I'd Love To Lay You Down in 1980. He would collect his 40th and final #1 hit in 1986 with Desperado Love. Then George Strait became the first artist to collect a 41st #1 hit in 2006 with Give It Away. I hope this was helpful!
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 4, 2010 19:11:54 GMT -5
Would anyone mind if I started a separate thread for those songs that hit #1 in Canada? I think that would be a great research tool! I would not be able to do a Country ChartBeat for the Canadian charts though!
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Post by drock89 on Feb 4, 2010 21:37:13 GMT -5
Would anyone mind if I started a separate thread for those songs that hit #1 in Canada? I think that would be a great research tool! I would not be able to do a Country ChartBeat for the Canadian charts though! I personally don't care, but there is a Canadian forum on this board where you post that.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 5, 2010 16:54:54 GMT -5
I have started a thread for Canadian country chart fans. It does NOT look as good as ShaniaGotchaGood's!, but it will do! If there are any questions or comments, please post them here or there! Thanks!
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Post by leilamaurizia on Feb 9, 2010 0:14:16 GMT -5
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*** No. 1 ***/ Greatest Gainer "Why Don't We Just Dance" Josh Turner Hot Shot Debut No. 53 "Blue Sky" Emily West Featuring Keith Urban Debut No. 59 "Bring On The Love" Coldwater Jane Debut No. 60 "Giddy On Up" Laura Bell Bundy
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 9, 2010 10:57:56 GMT -5
1. JOSHING AND DANCING WITH TURNER: Josh Turner lands his third chart topping hit with Why Don't We Just Dance. It follows his two other #1 hits, both from 2006: Your Man and Would You Go With Me. His newest CD Haywire drops this week. 2. 481K: That is how many people bought Lady Antebellum's second CD Need You Now. It opened at #1 on BOTH country and top 200 charts. Their self-titled debut was a #1 country CD and a #4 top 200 CD in 2008. 3. #1S VS. #2S: Billboard 2010 is almost 25% in the history books. There have been five #1 hits and three #2 hits. They are: #1s: 1. Need You Now-Lady Antebellum-5 weeks 2. Consider Me Gone-Reba McEntire-4 weeks 3. Southern Voice-Tim McGraw-1 week 4. The Truth-Jason Aldean-2 weeks 5. Why Don't We Just Dance-Josh Turner-1 week so far #2s: 1. Do I-Luke Bryan-3 weeks 2. I Wanna Make You Close Your Eyes-Dierks Bentley-2 weeks 3. White Liar-Miranda Lambert-2 weeks 4. THEY'RE TOGETHER AGAIN (AND STILL): Miranda Lambert slides three to #5 with White Liar. Her boyfriend, Blake Shelton joins her in the top ten with Hillbilly Bone (with Trace Adkins) at #9. This is the second time they are in the top ten together. The first time was when Lambert collected her first top ten in 2008 with Gunpowder & Lead (#7). While she was holding her peak position, Shelton was at #9 with Home (which was #1 a few weeks earlier). Speaking of Adkins, he collects his first top ten since leaving Capitol Records last month. Now the question is: Can he land a top ten this year with Show Dog-Universal? 5. STILL IS NOT STILL: Tim McGraw has the fastest rising single this week. Still vaults 13 places to #38. George Strait is in second place. I Gotta Get To You goes up 12 to #43. 6. THE TOP SELLERS ON THE 5S: These were the top selling albums in 2005, 1995, 1985, 1975, and 1965: 2005: Be As You Are Songs From An Old Blue Chair-Kenny Chesney-BNA 1995: The Hits-Garth Brooks-Capitol 1985: Why Not Me-the Judds-RCA 1975: Heart Like A Wheel-Linda Ronstadt-Capitol 1965: I Don't Care-Buck Owens-Capitol 7. THEIR TEN BIGGEST: Dan Seals would have turned 62 this week (we miss you, Dan!). Here are his ten biggest hits. They are ranked by weeks at #1, followed by weeks in the top 40. 1. Love On Arrival-1990-3-16 2. Good Times-1990-2-17 3. You Still Move Me-1987-1-16 4. Big Wheels In The Moonlight-1989-1-16 5. Meet Me In Montana-with Marie Osmond-1985-1-14 6. Everything That Glitters Is Not Gold-1986-1-14 7. I Will Be There-1987-1-14 8. One Friend-1988-1-14 9. Three Time Loser-1987-1-14 10. Addicted-1988-1-14 Remember, I AM taking your personal requests in this section! 8. MILESTONE TOP TEN CHART: Here is a timeline of Conway Twitty's career with respect to the labels he was with: 1. Decca (later MCA)-1965-1981 2. Elektra (later Warner Bros.)-1981-1986 3. MCA-1986-1993 By the time Conway released his first greatest hits album for Warner Bros., he was NOT a stranger to greatest hits albums or greatest hits (by 1984, he had 61 top ten hits-37 #1 hits). The track listing for Conway's Latest Greatest Hits-Volume I is as follows: 1. Ain't She Somethin' Else-1985-#1 2. The Rose-1983-#1 3. Slow Hand-1982-#1 4. Somebody's Needin' Somebody-1984-#1 5. Three Times A Lady-1984-#7 6. I Don't Know A Thing About Love The Moon Song-1984-#1 7. The Clown-1982-#1 8. Heartache Tonight-1983-#6 9. Lost In The Feeling-1983-#2 10. We Did But Now You Don't-1982-#2 Titles 2-10 were gleaned from just four albums (Southern Comfort, Dream Maker, Lost In The Feeling, and By Heart). Twitty's future wife, Dee Henry (his producer as well) found the original 1974 version of Ain't She Somethin' Else by Eddy Raven (who took it to #46) and fell in love with it (so did Twitty). Twitty's version debuted in November, 1984 (exactly ten years after Raven's version debuted) and became Twitty's 38th #1 hit (his 6th with Warner Bros.). Twitty would release three more albums on Warner Bros. Records (Don't Call Him A Cowboy, Chasin' Rainbows, and Fallin' For You For Years). He would have five more major (top 20) hits on the label: 1. Don't Call Him A Cowboy-1985-#1 2. Between Blue Eyes And Jeans-1985-#3 3. The Legend And The Man-1985-#19 4. Desperado Love-1986-#1 (his final #1) 5. Fallin' For You For Years-1987-#2 He decided to return to MCA Records while he was charting with titles #4 and #5. He remained with the label until his death in 1993. There are three titles that survey Twitty's Warner Bros. years. They are: 1. #1s: The Warner Bros. Years 2. 41 #1 Hits on Heartland Records 3. Love Songs on Flashback Records Here is what the chart looked like back then:
BILLBOARD TOP TEN FOR WEEK ENDING FEBRUARY 9, 1985: 1. AIN'T SHE SOMETHIN' ELSE-CONWAY TWITTY-WARNER BROS. 2. Something In My Heart-Ricky Skaggs-Epic 3. Make My Life With You-the Oak Ridge Boys-MCA 4. One Owner Heart-T.G. Sheppard-Warner Bros. 5. Baby's Got Her Blue Jeans On-Mel McDaniel-Capitol 6. You Turn Me On Like A Radio-Ed Bruce-RCA 7. Baby Bye Bye-Gary Morris-Warner Bros. 8. My Baby's Got Good Timing-Dan Seals-EMI America 9. She's Gonna Win Your Heart-Eddy Raven-RCA 10. All Tangled Up In Love-Gus Hardin and Earl Thomas Conley-RCA
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Post by musicbuff78 on Feb 9, 2010 17:14:03 GMT -5
Bop wasn't a big #1 for Dan Seals??? When I hear his name, that's the only song I can think of.
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Post by Jonsolo on Feb 9, 2010 17:31:18 GMT -5
Bop wasn't a big #1 for Dan Seals??? When I hear his name, that's the only song I can think of. It was a #1, and the eleventh of Dan's career, but I suppose it had less than 14 weeks in the top 40, and therefore ranked behind the other ten #1 songs using this particular criteria.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 9, 2010 18:40:07 GMT -5
I wasn't even alive when "Bop" reached #1, but somehow the chorus is still stuck in my head! =)
I'm guessing it was quite popular...
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Post by Zazie on Feb 9, 2010 21:12:43 GMT -5
I wasn't even alive when "Bop" reached #1, but somehow the chorus is still stuck in my head! =) I'm guessing it was quite popular... It was very popular indeed. Dan's career didn't last as long as it might have, but he had a lot of big songs. There are very few artists who had 10 or more #1 songs and are ranked below the top 100 of the Whitburn list -- to pull off that double, there has to be something that shortens your career or changes its direction. The Judds, for example; we know what happened to them. Dan joins Rosanne Cash, Ricky Van Shelton, and maybe one or two more (I'm away from my Whitburn book and don't have a good enough memory).
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 9, 2010 21:28:04 GMT -5
What was it that killed Dan's career so abruptly anyway? He was having #1's as late as late 1990, but after "Good Times," everything was a mega-dud.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 10, 2010 10:14:40 GMT -5
I see I got a LOT of response to Dan Seals' hit, Bop. Here is one piece of trivia about Seals. He is the ONLY artist to win C.M.A. Awards for his first two #1 hits. Meet Me In Montana with Marie Osmond won Vocal Duo of the Year while Bop won Single of the Year. Since Dan had 11 #1 hits, I would rank Bop at #11. It spent 13 weeks in the top 40 between 1985-1986. It was the second #1 hit of 1986 (following Morning Desire by Kenny Rogers). Dan's 12th biggest hit was his ONLY #2 hit, My Baby's Got Good Timing. It was #2 for two weeks in early 1985 (please see my Milestone Top Ten Chart feature). It is great to see this discussion of Seals, dead nearly a year now. What I think really 'killed' his career after 1990 was the fact that Dan was signed to Capitol Records where Garth Brooks was. When Dan went to #1 for the last time with Good Times, Brooks just scored a HUGE #1 with The Dance. Several months later, Friends In Low Places became his biggest hit. After eight years with Capitol (and EMI America), Dan signed with Warner Bros.. He did NOT enjoy any big hits on that label as they were concentrating on their biggest star at the time, Randy Travis (and maybe Travis Tritt if so inclined). Any other responses are highly appreciated!
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 10, 2010 14:19:48 GMT -5
Why did it have such a short chart run, in an era which (i think) had lighter recurrent rules?
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 10, 2010 16:27:56 GMT -5
First and foremost, there were not ANY recurrent rules as the Billboard chart during the time period mentioned had 100 positions. I think what made the Dan Seals hit Bop have a little shorter chart run is that is what released sooner than Marie Osmond's follow up There's No Stopping Your Heart. I just looked it up in my reference book and will give you the following timeline: 1. Meet Me In Montana hits #1 for the week ending October 12, 1985. 2. Bop enters the top 40 for w/e 11-16-85 (while Hang On To Your Heart by Exile was #1). 3. There's No Stopping Your Heart enters the top 40 for w/e 11-30-85 (while Too Much On My Heart by the Statler Bros. was #1). That is ONLY a two week diference! 4. Bop hits #1 for w/e 01-18-86. 5. There's No Stopping Your Heart hits #1 for w/e 02-22-86. That is a difference of five weeks! The Osmond hit lasts two more weeks in the top 40 versus the Seals hit! I hope this was helpful! In case you were wondering, here are the chart runs for BOTH songs: B. by D.S.: 10-26-85 to 03-15-86 69-50-42-33-24-20-14-11-07-03-02-02-01-11-22-35-46-53-55-60-71 T.N.S.Y.H. by M.O.: 11-09-85 to 03-15-86 72-58-47-37-30-24-22-18-16-14-12-07-04-03-02-01-18-34-42
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 10, 2010 17:09:52 GMT -5
In case you were wondering, here are the chart runs for BOTH songs: B. by D.S.: 10-26-85 to 03-15-86 69-50-42-33-24-20-14-11-07-03-02-02-01-11-22-35-46-53-55-60-71 T.N.S.Y.H. by M.O.: 11-09-85 to 03-15-86 72-58-47-37-30-24-22-18-16-14-12-07-04-03-02-01-18-34-42 Wow...so after they hit the top of the charts, "Bop" went from #1 to #11, and TNSYH went from #1 to #18? Was it common for songs to drop like that back then? Thanks again!
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 10, 2010 17:17:19 GMT -5
I can not say for sure, but most #1s DID depart the top 10 after their stay at #1. Remember, this was the 1980s and most chart topping hits did not stay at #1 for long periods of time. In 1960, ONLY four songs made #1, while 1986 was the ONLY year to see a different #1 for every week of the year except Mind Your Own Business which was #1 for two weeks thanks to the holiday freeze that Billboard has. I remember reading an article that during this time period, the thought that once a record hit #1, the d.j.s were looking to replace it with something else. I REALLY do not want to go through every #1 from 1986 and see where it landed the week after it hit #1, but my guess is that most (I would say about 75-90%) of those records dropped out of the top ten after hitting #1!
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 10, 2010 17:40:58 GMT -5
I can not say for sure, but most #1s DID depart the top 10 after their stay at #1. Remember, this was the 1980s and most chart topping hits did not stay at #1 for long periods of time. In 1960, ONLY four songs made #1, while 1986 was the ONLY year to see a different #1 for every week of the year except Mind Your Own Business which was #1 for two weeks thanks to the holiday freeze that Billboard has. That's really interesting. I've only really been following the chart since about 1998...so I didn't realize the extent of the trends & swings that the Billboard chart history had in years before then!
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Post by Zazie on Feb 11, 2010 1:52:07 GMT -5
I can not say for sure, but most #1s DID depart the top 10 after their stay at #1. Remember, this was the 1980s and most chart topping hits did not stay at #1 for long periods of time. In 1960, ONLY four songs made #1, while 1986 was the ONLY year to see a different #1 for every week of the year except Mind Your Own Business which was #1 for two weeks thanks to the holiday freeze that Billboard has. That's really interesting. I've only really been following the chart since about 1998...so I didn't realize the extent of the trends & swings that the Billboard chart history had in years before then! There were corruption problems with chart reporting before the BDS computerized era started in 1990. Radio stations reported their airplay in writing to Billboard, and I've seen several books that said that the reporting was deliberately inaccurate. Lots of songs climbed up the charts 8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 (or similar patterns) then dropped to 11 or far below that the next week. That enabled lots of labels/agents/artists to claim that their song was also a #1. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. That couldn't happen once the "electronic fingerprint" system started. But if you look at the 70's and 80's, especially post-1975, you will see very few long runs at the top, and a ton of songs reaching #1, more than in any other period of country history. I would refer you to reference books, but I can't think where I've read this. I've seen it several times, and I've never seen a denial, so I am concluding that this is widely-known and accepted as an explanation of the way the business was run. I'm sure Billboard knew their data were flawed, but until the electronic era came along, what could they do?
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Feb 11, 2010 13:32:21 GMT -5
I always thought Dans material was what ultimately cut his career short. When he was having the #1's , He seemed to get the "A-List" songs. He had a few albums in that era that were excellent! But after the Class of 89, I suspect the majority of the big name writers were holding out for the newer bigger money making acts to cut there stuff. He also seemed to evolve his style more towards a folksy pop-ish sound which wasn't exactly the greatest trend to follow considering the New Traditionalists were really getting hot at the time.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 11, 2010 14:17:26 GMT -5
^That might be what killed off so many other artists' careers. I know Exile's career was cut somewhat short (#17 with my favorite, "Keep It in the Middle of the Road," Top 10 with "Nobody's Talking" and "Yet", couple duds; last hit was a #16). Restless Heart was struggling come the 1990s, even though they managed to get into the top 10 a couple times and had a huge crossover with "When She Cries." Highway 101 limped its way to #4 with "Walkin', Talkin', Cryin' etc. etc." and then Paulette's split was their undoing (even if "Bing Bang Boom" is my favorite of theirs). Eddy Raven, Vern Gosdin, Ricky Skaggs, Earl Thomas Conley, etc. were lucky to see the Top 10. Rodney Crowell never got another #1, although getting five off one album was a very hard act to follow. Even giants such as Ronnie Milsap and Conway Twitty never saw the top again (even though both had at least one #2). As for Dan Seals, I think that almost all of his other songs are stronger than "Bop." ("Addicted" being my favorite.)
It's like, once the class of '89 made it big, almost all of their predecessors died off in rapid succession. Even the more traditional-minded, like Ricky Skaggs, were left behind. And now Alan Jackson is the only one still standing. Hard to imagine, since a.) he was on a label which had virtually no experience in the country field, b.) his first single tanked, and c.) he's managed to stay fairly consistent for 21 years.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 11, 2010 14:32:12 GMT -5
That's really interesting. I've only really been following the chart since about 1998...so I didn't realize the extent of the trends & swings that the Billboard chart history had in years before then! There were corruption problems with chart reporting before the BDS computerized era started in 1990. Radio stations reported their airplay in writing to Billboard, and I've seen several books that said that the reporting was deliberately inaccurate. Lots of songs climbed up the charts 8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 (or similar patterns) then dropped to 11 or far below that the next week. That enabled lots of labels/agents/artists to claim that their song was also a #1. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. That couldn't happen once the "electronic fingerprint" system started. But if you look at the 70's and 80's, especially post-1975, you will see very few long runs at the top, and a ton of songs reaching #1, more than in any other period of country history. I would refer you to reference books, but I can't think where I've read this. I've seen it several times, and I've never seen a denial, so I am concluding that this is widely-known and accepted as an explanation of the way the business was run. I'm sure Billboard knew their data were flawed, but until the electronic era came along, what could they do? Nice to know...thanks for the info & insight, I appreciate it!
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 13, 2010 10:18:38 GMT -5
I thought I would add one more item to Dan Seals. Here are the top 30 hits for 1986 according to the American Country Countdown: 1. Morning Desire-Kenny Rogers-RCA 2. Have Mercy-the Judds-RCA 3. Never Be You-Rosanne Cash-Columbia 4. I'll Never Stop Loving You-Gary Morris-Warner Bros. 5. You Can Dream Of Me-Steve Wariner-MCA 6. I Don't Mind The Thorns When You're The Rose-Lee Greenwood-MCA 7. THERE'S NO STOPPING YOUR HEART-MARIE OSMOND-CAPITOL 8. The Chair-George Strait-MCA 9. Just Another Love-Tanya Tucker-Capitol 10. Cry-Crystal Gayle-Warner Bros. 11. On The Other Hand-Randy Travis-Warner Bros. 12. Too Much On My Heart-the Statler Bros.-Mercury 13. It'll Be Me-Exile-Epic 14. Whoever's In New England-Reba McEntire-MCA 15. Mama's Never Seen Those Eyes-the Forester Sisters-Warner Bros. 16. Making Up For Lost Time-Crystal Gayle and Gary Morris-Warner Bros. 17. You're The Last Thing I Needed Tonight-John Schneider-MCA 18. Cajun Moon-Ricky Skaggs-Epic 19. Until I Met You-Judy Rodman-MTM 20. EVERYTHING THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD-DAN SEALS-EMI AMERICA 21. Strong Heart-T.G. Sheppard-Columbia 22. Got My Heart Set On You-John Conlee-Columbia 23. Nobody Falls Like A Fool-Earl Thomas Conley-RCA 24. Just In Case-the Forester Sisters-Warner Bros. 25. Happy, Happy Birthday Baby-Ronnie Milsap-RCA 26. That Rock Won't Roll-Restless Heart-RCA 27. Grandpa Tell Me 'Bout The Good Old Days-the Judds-RCA 28. BOP-DAN SEALS-EMI AMERICA 29. Once In A Blue Moon-Earl Thomas Conley-RCA 30. Life's Highway-Steve Wariner-MCA As you can see, the A.C.C. agrees with me (or I agree with them) that Everything That Glitters Is Not Gold WAS a bigger hit than Bop. Of course, the only advantage that Gold has over Bop is that Gold's ENTIRE chart run was during 1986. Bop's chart run was during two years (1985-1986-as detailed in my earlier post). I do agree with Steelo that Bop was certainly the most memorable hit that Seals had (besides Meet Me In Montana with Osmond). I hope this gave some unique insight today!
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