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Post by brb on Feb 12, 2010 11:07:47 GMT -5
IIHY, "Soaked", "Fever," and "Strut AOL sessions are available here now Still waiting for WWFM there.. I hope they upload it soon.
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Post by maria4hitz on Feb 12, 2010 11:56:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the link!!!!!
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Post by mostlyharmless on Feb 12, 2010 12:09:50 GMT -5
Given that Kara is STILL pimping Adam on American Idol, I'm sure she'll give whatever requisite favors she needs to give for this to keep climbing. Look, I'm not saying the song isn't good enough on it's own, it is, but Kara is beyond ridiculous. Yup. Kara is the reason this song is smashing! LMFAO!!!!! POST OF THE WEEK! Published ReportsPOP: 22 20 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 3455 2864 591 23.723 +105 Spins +45 Bullet +0.573 AI HAC: 29 24 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 800 597 203 3.514 +39 Spins +29 Bullet +0.237 AI MASSIVE! Things are moving as i planned it! Theo, are you psychic? I remember you saying a couple of weeks back how he would start getting plus 100s and not to worry, this makes me hope wonder if certain other predictions of yours will come true...
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Feb 12, 2010 12:34:22 GMT -5
lol I am not a psychic but I am here long enough to know some things and how this chart works. Many stations are starting pushing it's spins up and that's a good sign. If, cumulus add this next week (and I think they will) his updates are gonna get massive!
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Post by brb on Feb 12, 2010 12:36:29 GMT -5
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Post by maria4hitz on Feb 12, 2010 12:39:47 GMT -5
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Post by lucytor on Feb 12, 2010 12:45:12 GMT -5
It's so incredible that I'm waiting for accusations of lipsynching. The person to praise is more the songwriter than the singer, though. It's a gorgeous song, so thanks, Bellamy and Muse.
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Post by moodswings on Feb 12, 2010 14:00:43 GMT -5
Yay another +100 update and look at that bullet!! Theo, I enjoy your predictions. Please don't ever stop ;)
Off to watch the AOL sessions...
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Post by Kworb on Feb 12, 2010 14:25:17 GMT -5
Still #26 on iTunes. People need to start buying it already. His AOL Sessions are excellent. :) Glad that he picked a good set list.
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Post by lucytor on Feb 12, 2010 14:40:11 GMT -5
Still #26 on iTunes. People need to start buying it already. His AOL Sessions are excellent. :) Glad that he picked a good set list. What do you think is happening with itunes? How unusual is that number at this point in a song's history?
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Feb 12, 2010 14:41:10 GMT -5
It's so incredible that I'm waiting for accusations of lipsynching. The person to praise is more the songwriter than the singer, though. It's a gorgeous song, so thanks, Bellamy and Muse. Well, AOL Sessions has long been accused of autotuning even the artists that can sing.
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Post by Kworb on Feb 12, 2010 14:46:20 GMT -5
Still #26 on iTunes. People need to start buying it already. His AOL Sessions are excellent. :) Glad that he picked a good set list. What do you think is happening with itunes? How unusual is that number at this point in a song's history? Sales are just average at this point, probably a little below average. They are good enough to not hurt his airplay, but it's annoying, cause the whole point of airplay is to generate sales.
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Feb 12, 2010 15:03:33 GMT -5
Sales CAN'T hurt his airplay ... and his sales are not below average at all!
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Post by Sarah. on Feb 12, 2010 15:21:31 GMT -5
I think the sales are fine. Other songs like LLWD or Breakeven are higher because they're also really high on HAC...the sales will start picking up as he moves up on both charts. :)
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Post by lucytor on Feb 12, 2010 15:37:00 GMT -5
It's so incredible that I'm waiting for accusations of lipsynching. The person to praise is more the songwriter than the singer, though. It's a gorgeous song, so thanks, Bellamy and Muse. Well, AOL Sessions has long been accused of autotuning even the artists that can sing. There are bits that are off in those songs, including Soaked, so if they autotuned, they didn't do a great job. Adam sings with a minimum of mistakes when he is not consciously putting on a huge show for an audience--see the performances on idol and on various talk shows and compare them to Gridlock (and the AMAs, ouch) where he was off a lot. He sounds really good on Soaked because that song really shows off a singer's skill, and is a very theatrical song to start with.
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Post by Kworb on Feb 12, 2010 15:48:31 GMT -5
He sounds a bit shrill on Soaked, but I think it's just the lack of reverb. I don't hear any autotuning and it's 100% live.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Feb 12, 2010 15:55:12 GMT -5
Well, AOL Sessions has long been accused of autotuning even the artists that can sing. There are bits that are off in those songs, including Soaked, so if they autotuned, they didn't do a great job. Adam sings with a minimum of mistakes when he is not consciously putting on a huge show for an audience--see the performances on idol and on various talk shows and compare them to Gridlock (and the AMAs, ouch) where he was off a lot. He sounds really good on Soaked because that song really shows off a singer's skill, and is a very theatrical song to start with. I know - and I made that argument with David Archuleta's AOL Sessions back in 2008. He sounded almost perfect except for a couple of spots. Yet people kept telling me that AOL autotunes and has for quite awhile. Then I started listening to other sessions and I could hear it--even sessions with good singers like Kelly Clarkson. Autotune isn't perfect. It is in studio when you take the time to run through entire tracks to make sure the use of autotune hasn't actually made the performance sound more off-pitch (which it can do if the correct pitch isn't detected properly). But used in a quick way, without special detail, and you'll get mostly perfect sound with some missed spots or even autotune errors (which I recall people complaining about in Kelly Clarkson's AOL Sessions). Frankly, I think the use of autotune on artists with good pitch tends to hurt more than help. He sounds a bit shrill on Soaked, but I think it's just the lack of reverb. I don't hear any autotuning and it's 100% live. 100% live means nothing. They had the recorded track for ages. Of course they messed with the audio before they put it out there. You want them to, actually, since live mic feeds tend to have poor mixes. Note, I haven't listened to Adam's sessions, but I've listened to several others. I can hear autotune on a lot of them-that slight tweak that sounds just a little wrong. I'm not sure they would stop doing it just for Adam--no singer is perfectly on pitch all the time, not even Adam.
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Post by saga on Feb 12, 2010 15:59:38 GMT -5
Adam uses a lot of vibrato when he sings and I can still hear it here. Usually autotune make the voice sound very even. I do think they use some voice overlay in parts of IIHY though, just in a few places, to get that special voice effect, but I think it was intended to be that way.
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Post by David on Feb 12, 2010 16:11:08 GMT -5
His sales are just fine. He did the majority of these performances before this was a hit and right after that AMA disaster. Pop is NOT the only format that generates sales people. Him just going Top 20 on Pop and being #26 on itunes is not that bad. Yeah, it could be a little higher, but he needs to go do some more promo.
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Post by lucytor on Feb 12, 2010 16:18:05 GMT -5
Adam uses a lot of vibrato when he sings and I can still hear it here. Usually autotune make the voice sound very even. I do think they use some voice overlay in parts of IIHY though, just in a few places, to get that special voice effect, but I think it was intended to be that way. iihy was definitely intended to be that way. Autotuning...still don't hear it. I do hear the same kind of (very minor, man can sing!) pitch issues that I heard on idol and on various talk shows. Yes, he can be off, and he was plenty off on Gridlock and AMAs, but, usually, he's as he is here. We'll never find out one way or another, of course.
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Post by Ke$haStan on Feb 12, 2010 19:41:26 GMT -5
Right, and he no longer has any promo at all. He'll be fine. Platnium is good enoughh for me ;)
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Feb 12, 2010 19:50:37 GMT -5
Right, and he no longer has any promo at all. He'll be fine. Platnium is good enoughh for me ;) I think they're talking about the single, not the album. I don't see the single going platinum any time soon. The album--well, it'll be a waiting game for that, and it depends on whether he has subsequent hits that are the type of hits that sell albums. Album sales are flattening now--at least according to HDD (meaning the decline from year to year is leveling off and there isn't much of a nose dive anymore). So the economy shouldn't be hurting him any more than it was hurting artists in 2008 and 2009, when sales started really nose-diving. And he does have promo--every time the song is played on the radio that's promotion. I believe he's doing a Clear Channel concert this week, and that means the video will probably be put up on Clear Channel websites for their Stripped series. He's also making New York Fashion Week appearances, and doing that concert with Kris and Allison--he should generate some press for that. Later on he has that VH1 concert that will air on VH1. He's getting a lot of opportunities. Now and coming up. He's not at all lacking promotion. Is he absolutely everywhere like Beyonce or Taylor Swift? No, but he's being promoted a lot more than 99% of new artists, including artists under the same management.
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Feb 12, 2010 21:49:20 GMT -5
The single is gonna go platinum too. No worries.
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Post by foxxden on Feb 12, 2010 23:46:08 GMT -5
Right, and he no longer has any promo at all. He'll be fine. Platnium is good enoughh for me ;) And he does have promo--every time the song is played on the radio that's promotion. I believe he's doing a Clear Channel concert this week, and that means the video will probably be put up on Clear Channel websites for their Stripped series. He's also making New York Fashion Week appearances, and doing that concert with Kris and Allison--he should generate some press for that. Later on he has that VH1 concert that will air on VH1. He's getting a lot of opportunities. Now and coming up. He's not at all lacking promotion. Is he absolutely everywhere like Beyonce or Taylor Swift? No, but he's being promoted a lot more than 99% of new artists, including artists under the same management. All those items you mentioned are good promo and will help in the long run but it's television appearances like talk shows, award shows, or Prime-time finales that provide a song with a noticeable immediate push up the iTunes chart. And the majority of those type of promotions (Ellen, Letterman, The View, SYTYCD Finale) occurred before the song was a top 20 radio hit. His next "big" push will prob be when he performs on Idol unless something turns up sooner. Either way he is doing just fine.
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Post by Sarah. on Feb 13, 2010 1:17:31 GMT -5
Omg the concert was inssaaaane!!! He is incredible........WOW! I was like 10 feet away from him.....ahhh!! Here's a video I uploaded of his WWFM performance!
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Post by moodswings on Feb 13, 2010 4:13:32 GMT -5
^^^ That's yours? WOW, thank you! I saw it online earlier, LOVE how he changed up the second verse.
I'm seeing him in Palm Springs in 2 weeks. SO EXCITED after seeing the vids of his performance tonight!
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Post by moodswings on Feb 13, 2010 5:03:34 GMT -5
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Post by brb on Feb 13, 2010 6:45:08 GMT -5
Omg the concert was inssaaaane!!! He is incredible........WOW! I was like 10 feet away from him.....ahhh!! Here's a video I uploaded of his WWFM performance! Wow, I love WWFM's second verse change. His sales are just fine, there are still many markets in POP and HAC that don't spin WWFM yet, and as more markets start spinning, I think he will re-enter Itunes top 20 soon ehough and I think WWFM is going to reach platinum.
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Post by Kworb on Feb 13, 2010 7:13:13 GMT -5
Published Reports
POP: 22 20 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 3557 2882 675 24.289 +102 Spins +84 Bullet +0.566 AI
HAC: 27 24 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 822 616 206 3.754 +22 Spins +3 Bullet +0.240 AI
Top Stations
POP: WHTZ New York 105 (+1) WFLZ Tampa 79 (+4) KDLW Albuquerque 75 (+8) KZHT Salt Lake City 70 (+5) WBLI Nassau-Suffolk 63 (-4)
HAC: KVLY McAllen 46 (=) WTIC Hartford 39 (+2) KHMX Houston 38 (+1) WDVD Detroit 36 (=) KUCD Honolulu 34 (=)
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Post by mostlyharmless on Feb 13, 2010 7:26:39 GMT -5
Another fantastic update!
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