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Post by rebel.heart on Apr 15, 2010 8:45:39 GMT -5
I still think US radio has been fair to this song. It's not like it was selling like crazy. But I'm not gonna debate that a third time. Maybe if it starts smashing around the world then we can say there's a bias against him in the US, but so far that hasn't happened. Have you seen another song that 11 of the 13 Top 40 Cumulus stations that spinned it dropped it from #5-#8 in their charts to below #100 at some before it peaked and before it lost spins, 10 of which in the same day? And tell me, why did KRBE, that dropped him from #5 to #109 in their chart, spinned like 3 times in several hours suddenly yesterday? Cause there're still tons of requests in that market, hence it reaching #1 this week in the HAC station in the same market too.. so why did they do that? Not to mention Cumulus adding The Script when The Script were ranked below him in Itunes, below him in Top 40, when they are as established as he is, and when we know what Cumulus thought about a particular line in The Script's song. >:( Well that does sound kinda shady but I'm staying out of that debate. Adam's obsession with all things sparkly will never not be funny. His obsession rivals my own, the only diff is that he has the courage to go there, I don't. He's like the male version of Taylor with his shiny attire.
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Post by secretchef on Apr 15, 2010 8:49:32 GMT -5
So the WWFM remix sales will count in the single sales? The ones that are charting separately?
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Post by Kworb on Apr 15, 2010 8:58:13 GMT -5
As far as American radio and its anti-gay stance: That's going to hurt him with everything he does, won't it? Every song he releases is going to be a battle imo. I'm not gonna stop worrying about IIHY until I see it in the top 40 with enough adds to carry it further. I still think US radio has been fair to this song. It's not like it was selling like crazy. But I'm not gonna debate that a third time. Maybe if it starts smashing around the world then we can say there's a bias against him in the US, but so far that hasn't happened. Have you seen another song that 11 of the 13 Top 40 Cumulus stations that spinned it dropped it from #5-#8 in their charts to below #100 at some before it peaked and before it lost spins, 10 of which in the same day? And tell me, why did KRBE, that dropped him from #5 to #109 in their chart, spinned like 3 times in several hours suddenly yesterday? Cause there're still tons of requests in that market, hence it reaching #1 this week in the HAC station in the same market too.. so why did they do that? Not to mention Cumulus adding The Script when The Script were ranked below him in Itunes, below him in Top 40, when they are as established as he is, and when we know what Cumulus thought about a particular line in The Script's song. >:( They eventually added it, they played it (a lot), they're still playing it, just not as much. I'll never understand the obsession with Cumulus. It's less than 10% of pop radio. They don't have the power to kill songs. Rotations go up and down all the time. If they had something against Adam they would drop him altogether, and they haven't.
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Post by foxxden on Apr 15, 2010 9:17:37 GMT -5
So the WWFM remix sales will count in the single sales? The ones that are charting separately? Yep, the Jason Nevins WWFM remix is up to #252 on overall iTunes. Every song he releases is going to be a battle imo. I'm not gonna stop worrying about IIHY until I see it in the top 40 with enough adds to carry it further. Have you seen another song that 11 of the 13 Top 40 Cumulus stations that spinned it dropped it from #5-#8 in their charts to below #100 at some before it peaked and before it lost spins, 10 of which in the same day? And tell me, why did KRBE, that dropped him from #5 to #109 in their chart, spinned like 3 times in several hours suddenly yesterday? Cause there're still tons of requests in that market, hence it reaching #1 this week in the HAC station in the same market too.. so why did they do that? Not to mention Cumulus adding The Script when The Script were ranked below him in Itunes, below him in Top 40, when they are as established as he is, and when we know what Cumulus thought about a particular line in The Script's song. >:( They eventually added it, they played it (a lot), they're still playing it, just not as much. I'll never understand the obsession with Cumulus. It's less than 10% of pop radio. They don't have the power to kill songs. Rotations go up and down all the time. If they had something against Adam they would drop him altogether, and they haven't. Well they own a decent amount of stations and added him almost 4 months after his add dates (when big stations like Z100 already were weening him off power). Then Cumulus played him decently for about a month then dropped like a rock. Quite odd if you ask me. IMO that was this song's reason for missing the top 10...took way too long for the majority of stations to get on board...and when they did the early adapters were already lessening spins. This song made it to power rotation on a good amount of stations just at different times :(
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Post by Kworb on Apr 15, 2010 9:25:27 GMT -5
But again, that happens to all songs, power rotation on different stations at different times. No songs peak on all stations in exactly the same week.
Some things may seem weird or unfair with this song because its spins are scrutinized so intensely, but it is all fairly common.
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Post by foxxden on Apr 15, 2010 9:32:25 GMT -5
But again, that happens to all songs, power rotation on different stations at different times. No songs peak on all stations in exactly the same week. Some things may seem weird or unfair with this song because its spins are scrutinized so intensely, but it is all fairly common. Obviously WWFM wasn't the only song ever in the history of music to experience this lol. But I would not call it common. That's how songs get to #1 on a spin based chart....by the majority of stations on the panel placing the song on power rotation AT THE SAME TIME. I don't see how else a song could reach the top on a spin based chart?
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Post by Kworb on Apr 15, 2010 9:36:56 GMT -5
But the time of peaking will still vary across stations. #1s just have a higher average peak, and they might stay at that peak for a longer period of time.
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Post by blue in moonlight on Apr 15, 2010 9:47:21 GMT -5
Last night was a good performance for Adam but just an okay vocal. His voice was a wee bit shrill at times and I had brief flashbacks to the AMA performance. Perhaps he was a bit overexcited like he was at that time. Otherwise, everything else about it was cool. Surprised his label didn't use this opportunity to launch his next single.
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Post by silverwhite on Apr 15, 2010 10:15:29 GMT -5
I still think US radio has been fair to this song. It's not like it was selling like crazy. But I'm not gonna debate that a third time. Maybe if it starts smashing around the world then we can say there's a bias against him in the US, but so far that hasn't happened. Yeah, I don't think we can say it hasn't affected his success at all, but I do think the impact has been encouragingly small, though I guess it depends how you define small.
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Post by brb on Apr 15, 2010 10:17:45 GMT -5
Every song he releases is going to be a battle imo. I'm not gonna stop worrying about IIHY until I see it in the top 40 with enough adds to carry it further. Have you seen another song that 11 of the 13 Top 40 Cumulus stations that spinned it dropped it from #5-#8 in their charts to below #100 at some before it peaked and before it lost spins, 10 of which in the same day? And tell me, why did KRBE, that dropped him from #5 to #109 in their chart, spinned like 3 times in several hours suddenly yesterday? Cause there're still tons of requests in that market, hence it reaching #1 this week in the HAC station in the same market too.. so why did they do that? Not to mention Cumulus adding The Script when The Script were ranked below him in Itunes, below him in Top 40, when they are as established as he is, and when we know what Cumulus thought about a particular line in The Script's song. >:( They eventually added it, they played it (a lot), they're still playing it, just not as much. I'll never understand the obsession with Cumulus. It's less than 10% of pop radio. They don't have the power to kill songs. Rotations go up and down all the time. If they had something against Adam they would drop him altogether, and they haven't. Oh yeah, dropping about 400 spins combined that week when it had a bit over 200 bullet was not supposed to kill the song, yeah right.. It has had more power rotations in the past two weeks than it had before they started their sh!t, but whatever, there's nothing we can do about it now.
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Post by secretchef on Apr 15, 2010 10:23:47 GMT -5
Adam was on Seacrest this morning, the tour is the Glamnation tour. Or Glam Nation, hard to tell in spoken word. I like Glamnation, little play on words with damnation. Or at least that was my interpretation.
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Post by foxxden on Apr 15, 2010 10:36:54 GMT -5
Yes, the Jason Nevins WWFM remix continues to climb...up to #243. This is an awesome remix so I hope it breaks the top 200! :)
I wish SOMETHING in the top 15 would change on iTunes...it appears to be frozen :(
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Post by secretchef on Apr 15, 2010 11:05:27 GMT -5
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Post by maria4hitz on Apr 15, 2010 11:09:27 GMT -5
The album keeps rising too, it's #47 and #53 now :) Secretchef, I posted more comments from the press on Adam's thread. The media loved him and the performance.
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Post by secretchef on Apr 15, 2010 11:18:30 GMT -5
I love the Nevins remix too! Climb baby climb!
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Post by StarSprinkles on Apr 15, 2010 11:31:26 GMT -5
Come on remixes!!!!
How is FYE (the song) doing? I want it to get some iTunes love!!!!
I LOVED Adam's AI performance. Visually and vocally amazing. WOW.
ETA-THAT is the kind of performance that was MADE for those new 3D HDTV's. I would have killed to see that performance in 3D
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Post by maria4hitz on Apr 15, 2010 11:44:52 GMT -5
Itunes pop:
9 - WWFM 60 - Voodoo 79 - FYE 82 - Jason Nevins remix 153 - WWFM
The album is #45 now.
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Post by astrogal on Apr 15, 2010 11:49:45 GMT -5
The thread title is annoying considering that this is a forum which discusses airplay and the itunes position fluctuates a fair bit.
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Post by StarSprinkles on Apr 15, 2010 11:52:23 GMT -5
LOL!!!!
Whatever. We're just having a good time in this thread. I don't really care about the title.
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Post by David on Apr 15, 2010 11:54:49 GMT -5
With the Glee songs falling, this could be up to #11 soon and maybe Top 10 by weeks end?
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Post by brb on Apr 15, 2010 11:58:39 GMT -5
The thread title is annoying considering that this is a forum which discusses airplay and the itunes position fluctuates a fair bit. Who cares? I've seen many titles here saying "Now on Itunes" and stuff like that. One of the Glee songs just switched places with B.O.B and dropped to #11. I hope WWFM can pass it soon.
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Post by Maximillian on Apr 15, 2010 13:14:54 GMT -5
In other gay news: Dolce & Gabanna did an underwear photoshoot with an Italian football team. I would watch sports more if they played like this. bit.ly/9YuTpUMaybe Adam can get them as his back up dancers. Id die. haha
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Post by lucytor on Apr 15, 2010 14:21:38 GMT -5
In other gay news: Dolce & Gabanna did an underwear photoshoot with an Italian football team. I would watch sports more if they played like this. bit.ly/9YuTpUMaybe Adam can get them as his back up dancers. Id die. haha Hey, that's not just gay; that's eyecandy for straight women, too! Can you imagine a bunch of American quarterbacks agreeing to something like this? No wonder Adam thinks he'll do better in Europe. Thank you so much for the pretty; OT with apologies.
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Post by Rurry on Apr 15, 2010 14:21:51 GMT -5
This song has done abut what I expected to on CHR. It never sounded like a top 10 hit with me and it's sales match it's radio success. Not really a shocking radio run. It did well enough.
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Post by Kworb on Apr 15, 2010 14:31:00 GMT -5
Up to #11 now on iTunes. The gap with #10 doesn't seem to be closing, but he's way ahead of #13 so if another Glee song starts plummeting then it could sneak into the top 10.
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Post by foxxden on Apr 15, 2010 14:31:26 GMT -5
Passed one of the Glee's to move up to #11 on iTunes!!!! SOOO close to top 10!!! Plus once he goes top ten he may move up faster as he benefits from the higher visibility on the iTunes main page Also, the Jason Nevins WWFM remix is up to #227!
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Post by brb on Apr 15, 2010 14:33:39 GMT -5
Theo, you can change your title now, #11 on Itunes. 3 of the songs above it don't have airplay (Glee and B.O.B's Airplanes) and Christina has about a 3rd of the AI that he has, so I think it looks good for now. :)
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Post by foxxden on Apr 15, 2010 14:34:34 GMT -5
Up to #11 now on iTunes. The gap with #10 doesn't seem to be closing, but he's way ahead of #13 so if another Glee song starts plummeting then it could sneak into the top 10. how can you determine the gap if the new iTunes doesn't have popularity bars no more?
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Post by Kworb on Apr 15, 2010 14:41:23 GMT -5
I have iTunes 7
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Post by David on Apr 15, 2010 14:55:12 GMT -5
Man.. I really hope this goes Top 10 on itunes. I hate when songs stall at #11. Unless its a song I hate of course. hahahaha
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