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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Mar 26, 2010 10:37:37 GMT -5
There's a subforum for both Britain and Canadia, but there's not one for Japan, which is unusual because Japan is a larger market than both of them combined.
Any particular reason why?
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Post by Oprah on Mar 26, 2010 13:26:23 GMT -5
Canadia > Japan.
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Mar 26, 2010 14:21:38 GMT -5
yes, physically, Canadia encompasses a larger area. But Japan's music market > Canadia's music market.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 26, 2010 20:57:19 GMT -5
If there's a demand for it, perhaps, but I've never noticed much in the way of discussions on Japanese charts or artists or anything. If anyone else can offer some input?
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Mar 27, 2010 11:22:50 GMT -5
^ normally a lot of the Japanese chart discussion goes in within artists threads, talking about how particular songs are doing.
It's hard to just say, "oh here's a chart!!" because there are three charts, "Oricon" which is just physical singles based, the RIAJ Charts which is digital based, and Billboard which is Airplay + Physical based. I wish someone would take the physical, digital and airplay charts and do inverse points each week and get a more accurate top 100 ...... but that won't happen, will it? lol
Other than that, there's also the fact that Japan tends to stick to their own artists more than other countries so American artists tend to not chart that well on anything other than Billboard Japan.
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Post by mrmungo on Mar 30, 2010 16:34:44 GMT -5
A Japanese subforum sounds great to me. Would hopefully save me getting horribly lost on various Japanese sites on an almost daily basis!!  Heck, even an Asian subforum would get my vote. Japan has a huge music market. (2nd, only behind USA as of 2008 and can't imagine that has changed). Source blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2009/04/22/global-music-sales-keep-falling-pretty-much-everywhere/Whether they'd be enough interest in a subforum, I don't know. But there's only one way to find out... |
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Mar 31, 2010 8:41:34 GMT -5
Well, I can't promise i'd be able to post the whole charts, but I could definitely post the Top 10 of RIAJ/Chaku-Uta every week, also Hot 100 Airplay and also the Oricon.
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Post by mrmungo on Mar 31, 2010 12:22:43 GMT -5
I tend to just check Oricon's chart myself once a week, any others would always be welcome :)
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Apr 1, 2010 12:50:57 GMT -5
Also, I happen to firmly believe that if there's enough demand to keep the Smooth Jazz section, there's enough demand to add a Japanese Charts subforum..
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Post by #brayden on Apr 1, 2010 13:17:39 GMT -5
Umm... maybe it's because the majority of the people on this board are English speaking, and therefore don't give a damn about what's going on music-wise in Japan? Canadian and British markets are mostly English... so that's why they have them because people can actually understand what the artists are saying. Not to mention, if they did go ahead with a Japanese board... who the hell would post it? They're not going to make an entire section of the board for yourself and a few others to post on.
If you care so much about it go to a Japanese music board. No point trying on an overwhelming English-speaking board.
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Apr 1, 2010 13:28:19 GMT -5
^ i do go to Japanese music boards. But you know, WESTERN ARTISTS DO CHART IN JAPAN, RIGHT?
just checking, because you seem to be overlooking that completely. There main difference between Japan and most other countries is that, like America, there are a LOT of different charts.
Billboard Hot 100 (Weekly, Yearly)
Billboard Hot 100 Airplay (Weekly, Yearly)
Billboard Hot 100 Sales (Weekly, Yearly)
Billboard Adult Contemporary Airplay (Weekly, Yearly)
Billboard Top Independent Singles (Weekly, Yearly)
Oricon Singles (Daily, Weekly, Monthly, Yearly)
Recochoku Chaku-Uta (Daily, Weekly, Monthly, Yearly)
Recochoku Video Clips (Daily, Weekly, Monthly, Yearly)
Recochoku Movie Clips (Daily, Weekly, Monthly, Yearly)
Recochoku RBT Tracks (Daily, Weekly, Monthly, Yearly)
RIAJ Top Digital Songs (Weekly, Yearly)
now could you imagine if someone decided to post all of these every week? I'm not saying it'd happen, but that general board would be completely inundated with Japanese charts. I'm probably going to focus on posting the Recochoku Chaku-Uta Full and RIAJ charts and maybe the Hot 100.
I left out three Rechocoku charts in this list and multiple Oricon denominations.
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Post by #brayden on Apr 1, 2010 13:39:52 GMT -5
Yes... a lot of charts that the majority of the people on this board don't/won't care about. I'm aware that western artists chart in Japan, but that doesn't even matter. There's only been like one American artist that's hit #1 there, correct me if I'm wrong and I'll stand corrected, and that was Leona Lewis with 'Bleeding Love'. For the most part, American artists don't even chart that well over there because the majority of their music is, obviously, Japanese.
I just think it would a stupid, irrelevant, waste of space on the board that would only please a very small fraction of the members.
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Apr 1, 2010 13:50:44 GMT -5
^ no, Leona Lewis was the first non-Japanese artist to hit #1 on the Japanese Hot 100.
Korean band DBSK has had like 7 #1 hits there now. Mariah Carey's went top 5 with a lot of her recent singles and Adam Lambert's "for Your Entertainment" has been in the Top 5 for weeks now. Lady GaGa also charts exceptionally well on the Hot 100. (She's also by far the most consistent single seller over in Japan)
I can't necessarily say if others than Leona have gotten #1 on the Hot 100, but who knows?
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Post by PDC1987 on Apr 1, 2010 14:10:38 GMT -5
Yes... a lot of charts that the majority of the people on this board don't/won't care about. I'm aware that western artists chart in Japan, but that doesn't even matter. There's only been like one American artist that's hit #1 there, correct me if I'm wrong and I'll stand corrected, and that was Leona Lewis with 'Bleeding Love'. For the most part, American artists don't even chart that well over there because the majority of their music is, obviously, Japanese. I just think it would a stupid, irrelevant, waste of space on the board that would only please a very small fraction of the members. Surely you're aware that Oricon has the International Albums and Singles sales charts for non-Japanese acts, right? On Oricon's Overall Album and Singles sales charts international acts make the Top 10 frequently. Mad.onna has more entries on the Overall Singles chart than any other foreign act, with about 30. |
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Post by #brayden on Apr 1, 2010 23:11:56 GMT -5
Yes... a lot of charts that the majority of the people on this board don't/won't care about. I'm aware that western artists chart in Japan, but that doesn't even matter. There's only been like one American artist that's hit #1 there, correct me if I'm wrong and I'll stand corrected, and that was Leona Lewis with 'Bleeding Love'. For the most part, American artists don't even chart that well over there because the majority of their music is, obviously, Japanese. I just think it would a stupid, irrelevant, waste of space on the board that would only please a very small fraction of the members. Surely you're aware that Oricon has the International Albums and Singles sales charts for non-Japanese acts, right? I just said that I'm aware of western artists charting in Japan. Did you not read?  Anyways... I still think this is completely pointless. When I want to see how successful a song is on a worldwide stand-point... I look at charts in the US, Canada, Australia/NZ, UK & Ireland, some European countries and that's about it. I don't even bother with Japan. It just doesn't strike me as a country that needs a whole section on Pulse Music Board, especially when not many members of this site give two hoots about the music there. If anything, I'd say we should get an Australian board before a Japanese board is even considered. |
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Apr 1, 2010 23:38:09 GMT -5
Remind me again how you are too delusional for words, because I seem to keep forgetting and actually read your responses.
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Post by galvanize on Apr 1, 2010 23:44:14 GMT -5
I'm sorry but Phantom's responses are immensely rude for this thread - there's no need for throwing off this useless shade at someone making a suggestion because it's not going to affect your life whatsoever.
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Post by **βécky**™ on Apr 1, 2010 23:50:17 GMT -5
I'm all for a Japanese & Korean section.
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Apr 1, 2010 23:52:31 GMT -5
^ yeah, it could be a solely East Asian Subforum (although, do any other East Asian countries have official charts? As far as i've ever been able to tell, with the exception of Taiwan, it's a very very convoluted matter.)
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Post by mrmungo on Apr 2, 2010 9:39:54 GMT -5
Isn't the GAON Music Chart the official Korean chart? www.gaonchart.co.kr/Oh, and Phantom, UK/Republic of Ireland is actually in Europe. |
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Apr 2, 2010 11:34:31 GMT -5
And yeah, basically Phantom just said "I only look at charts where the artists I like are expected to do well" lol.
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Post by #brayden on Apr 2, 2010 12:18:07 GMT -5
Oh, and Phantom, UK/Republic of Ireland is actually in Europe. Did you honestly think I didn't know that? Just because I didn't mention them together doesn't mean that I'm clueless to the fact that they are European countries. And yeah, basically Phantom just said "I only look at charts where the artists I like are expected to do well" lol. ... well it's true. Looking at the Japan Hot 100 garbage that you posted, I think I recognized less than 10 songs that I actually knew. And I'm definitely not about to become some big fan of Japanese music. So why waste our time with a Japanese section and devote it to artists that a good majority of members won't know? Or is it just you trying to get that Ayumi broad some attention? |
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Post by PDC1987 on Apr 2, 2010 19:18:19 GMT -5
Surely you're aware that Oricon has the International Albums and Singles sales charts for non-Japanese acts, right? I just said that I'm aware of western artists charting in Japan. Did you not read? Anyways... I still think this is completely pointless. When I want to see how successful a song is on a worldwide stand-point... I look at charts in the US, Canada, Australia/NZ, UK & Ireland, some European countries and that's about it. I don't even bother with Japan. It just doesn't strike me as a country that needs a whole section on Pulse Music Board, especially when not many members of this site give two hoots about the music there. If anything, I'd say we should get an Australian board before a Japanese board is even considered. This is coming off as completely racist. And really, who gives a fuck what you personally like to look at? This isn't Phantom Music Board. |
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Post by #brayden on Apr 2, 2010 19:49:39 GMT -5
This is coming off as completely racist. And really, who gives a fuck what you personally like to look at? This isn't Phantom Music Board. I'm not saying it's 'Phantom Music Board', dumbass. Point is that only like 10-20 people (if there's even that many) have shown interest in having a Japan sub-forum, on a board of over seven thousand members. The interest is obviously not there, and I'll gladly let people know that the harsh way. |
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Post by **βécky**™ on Apr 2, 2010 20:30:10 GMT -5
I don't even care that much about the charts, more just discussing current singles & albums.
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Post by PDC1987 on Apr 2, 2010 20:32:29 GMT -5
This is coming off as completely racist. And really, who gives a fuck what you personally like to look at? This isn't Phantom Music Board. I'm not saying it's 'Phantom Music Board', dumbass. Point is that only like 10-20 people (if there's even that many) have shown interest in having a Japan sub-forum, on a board of over seven thousand members. The interest is obviously not there, and I'll gladly let people know that the harsh way. And who appointed you the official Pulse harbinger of bad news? Move on. |
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Post by #brayden on Apr 2, 2010 21:17:37 GMT -5
I'm not saying it's 'Phantom Music Board', dumbass. Point is that only like 10-20 people (if there's even that many) have shown interest in having a Japan sub-forum, on a board of over seven thousand members. The interest is obviously not there, and I'll gladly let people know that the harsh way. And who appointed you the official Pulse harbinger of bad news? Move on. No one has appointed me anything... but it shouldn't be hard to see that there's not enough interest. |
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Apr 3, 2010 9:14:08 GMT -5
^ There's a Smooth Jazz section.
Enough said when it comes to having interest...
and yeah, I want to be able to discuss current singles and such. like ones that are difficult to find information on, i.e. miwa's "Don't Cry Anymore" or Miho Fukuhara's "Mirai / moshikashite"
and Phanton, you know that just because people don't have Japanese signatures and avatars doesn't mean they don't like it, right..?
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Post by #brayden on Apr 3, 2010 11:32:30 GMT -5
Well don't you think if people were interested that they'd post on this thread saying they were, regardless of signatures/avatars? And have fun discussing singles that only a few people are going to know. But I've said in enough in this thread and I think you've got the point I made.
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Apr 3, 2010 14:10:29 GMT -5
i got nothing out of your posts except for the fact that you take way too much upon yourself and seem to think of yourself as something of an all-knowing sentinal or something or other.
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Anyways... I still think this is completely pointless. When I want to see how successful a song is on a worldwide stand-point... I look at charts in the US, Canada, Australia/NZ, UK & Ireland, some European countries and that's about it. I don't even bother with Japan. It just doesn't strike me as a country that needs a whole section on Pulse Music Board, especially when not many members of this site give two hoots about the music there. If anything, I'd say we should get an Australian board before a Japanese board is even considered.
