Acid Eyes
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Post by Acid Eyes on Jun 21, 2009 23:32:47 GMT -5
The Polling Booth is one of my favorite forums here at Pulse. But lately, this forum has become littered with unoriginal polls, and worse, completely irrelevant polls.
The administrators and moderators have discussed this issue and decided that there should be some specific guidelines that all members must follow to keep the forum fresh and give everyone a fair chance to create a poll about what they want.
1. Polls created in the Polling Booth Forum MUST be music-related. Polls about other areas of entertainment should be in the News & Entertainment Forum, while polls about Pulse itself (whether it be member-related or issue-related) should go either in The Lounge or in the Board Concerns Forum, wherever it is most appropriate.
2. Polls created here (or in any other forum) must be created with good intentions. Polls created with trollish intentions will be locked, and the creator will be warned.
3. Each member is allowed to create at most 3 polls per day. However, each poll created by the same member within a given day must be of a different topic, with none of the answers being repeated among those 3 polls. (This also means the subject of one of your polls cannot be an answer choice in another one of your polls in a given day and vice versa.) Basically, your 3 polls in a given day cannot overlap in content AT ALL.
4. There may only be one poll per topic per day. Meaning, if someone creates a poll about a new single, no member may create a poll about said single until the following day at the earliest. Same goes for non-singles, artists, albums, record labels, etc.
5. Polls with identical topics/choices can only be created once every 3 months. This means X vs Y polls, where the choices are the same in both polls. You must search a little ways back before creating a new poll if the same one was created less than 3 months ago. Please bump the older one or wait 3 months before recreating it.
Violating any of the above repeatedly may result in polls being locked and members being warned/banned.
6. As a courtesy, please be specific with answer choices. A lot of songs/albums share titles, so it is best to clarify.
Remember, only you can prevent unoriginal polls. (A Public Service Announcement from Acetic Acid)
Rurry addition (1/10/12):
-In addition, when replying to polls, please avoid making comments about how much you don't care about the poll topic (who cares?, no1curr, ect). If a poll topic doesn't interest you, simply don't reply to it and move on. Instances of this will result in a warning.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2009 9:21:39 GMT -5
5. Polls with identical topics/choices can only be created once every 3 months. This means X vs Y polls, where the choices are the same in both polls. You must search a little ways back before creating a new poll if the same one was created less than 3 months ago. Please bump the older one or wait 3 months before recreating it. I understand the intent of all of these. #5 though is a bit silly I think. 3 months is 20 pages, in a forum that has 100+ pages. So search through 20 pages or require the use of the search function. If the search function is required, it should be fairly reliable and easy for user to operate. I have had cases in the past of searching for something I want through the search function, only to not find it but have it there anyway because I either didn't use it right or typed in the wrong keywords.
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S. Carter
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Post by S. Carter on Jun 22, 2009 11:59:56 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind any of this if the search function was working up to par! I have tried searching for very specific results with timeline settings and # of results to display in order. And I know for a fact that most of the time the results come back sketchy. First of all, they rarely show any topics older than a month and sometimes some of the more current topics are missing from the results.
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Post by Nicolexo on Jun 22, 2009 14:12:52 GMT -5
4. There may only be one poll per topic per day. Meaning, if someone creates a poll about a new single, no member may create a poll about said single until the following day at the earliest. Same goes for non-singles, artists, albums, record labels, etc. ??? Wow.
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Post by Taylor. on Jun 22, 2009 14:20:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2009 14:26:34 GMT -5
4. There may only be one poll per topic per day. Meaning, if someone creates a poll about a new single, no member may create a poll about said single until the following day at the earliest. Same goes for non-singles, artists, albums, record labels, etc. ??? Wow. This one is actually pretty good. It avoids having 20 different X vs (every possible combination) polls show up in the same day. Promotes variety in discussion.
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Post by Nicolexo on Jun 22, 2009 14:30:56 GMT -5
This one is actually pretty good. It avoids having 20 different X vs (every possible combination) polls show up in the same day. Promotes variety in discussion. True, but when something new comes out (such as an album or song) I have seen more than 1 good poll I can participate in. Some are ridiculous, but some are not. I think there can be a limit to how many polls about 1 subject per day, but I don't agree with only 1.
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Post by busyboy on Jun 22, 2009 14:55:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind any of this if the search function was working up to par! I have tried searching for very specific results with timeline settings and # of results to display in order. And I know for a fact that most of the time the results come back sketchy. First of all, they rarely show any topics older than a month and sometimes some of the more current topics are missing from the results. Yeah, the search function has stopped working more than a year ago, I think. I usually alphabetize the threads in a particular forum, but it only really works in General Artist Discussion, as the first word is always the artist's name there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2009 15:27:02 GMT -5
LOL - general consensus is, if they require us to use the search function prior to posting, they need to fix it, to the point where we can work it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2009 15:29:13 GMT -5
The administrators have no control over the search function. It's a Proboards problem, not a Pulse problem.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 22, 2009 16:44:17 GMT -5
The search function works perfectly for me. Can you explain the exact issue to me?
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Post by vinyl on Jun 22, 2009 17:13:56 GMT -5
This one is actually pretty good. It avoids having 20 different X vs (every possible combination) polls show up in the same day. Promotes variety in discussion. True, but when something new comes out (such as an album or song) I have seen more than 1 good poll I can participate in. Some are ridiculous, but some are not. I think there can be a limit to how many polls about 1 subject per day, but I don't agree with only 1. ... pretty much.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 22, 2009 17:27:28 GMT -5
I probably agree with half of these...and bits and pieces of others. To put it nicely, I feel this is a bit extreme.
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Acid Eyes
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Post by Acid Eyes on Jun 22, 2009 17:55:09 GMT -5
I would rather not have to police this forum. After a long day of work or school, I'd prefer to vote in a few polls, rather than have to count the number of polls each person makes.
If everyone follows these most of the time, we won't have to be as strict with enforcing them later on. But we have to start somewhere. So if the forum is able to become a civil, balanced place, we may be able to ease up on some of these. Eventually. Maybe.
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Post by Haley on Jun 22, 2009 17:58:11 GMT -5
Only ONE Mariah poll a day? I just died a little inside.... ;)
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Post by Mega248 on Jun 22, 2009 23:22:07 GMT -5
1 and 2 are the most critical ones. 3-5 are intended more to be guidelines that should be followed most of the time; we won't be sitting in there making sure no one violates any of these ever. The people who get warned will be the ones who consistently fail to adhere to them.
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Post by David on Jun 23, 2009 0:09:48 GMT -5
This is brilliant!
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Post by Nevermind on Jun 26, 2009 10:58:53 GMT -5
1 & 2 & 6 - fine. 3, 4, 5 - get increasingly ridiculous.
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Post by Stephen on Jun 26, 2009 14:28:28 GMT -5
1 & 2 & 6 - fine. 3, 4, 5 - get increasingly ridiculous.
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Post by Taste It On My Tongue on Jun 27, 2009 4:25:37 GMT -5
Honestly, you completely lost me after rule #2.
A big WTF here.
All these rules are unnecessary here. I think everyone knows what the fine lines are and what's ridiculous enough to get banned. Like the Beyonce vs. Christ polls can get closed, and the ones that are like "Obsessed"first verse vs. "Obsessed" second verse can get closed. Stuff like that.
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Post by G-Reg on Jun 27, 2009 13:18:13 GMT -5
Why was my thread locked? I was proposing a serious question.
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Nevermind
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Post by Nevermind on Jun 27, 2009 13:40:15 GMT -5
It probably wasn't about music blah blah etc.
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Acid Eyes
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Post by Acid Eyes on Jun 27, 2009 14:07:48 GMT -5
All these rules are unnecessary here. I think everyone knows what the fine lines are and what's ridiculous enough to get banned. Like the Beyonce vs. Christ polls can get closed, and the ones that are like "Obsessed"first verse vs. "Obsessed" second verse can get closed. Stuff like that. This is what's wrong - people don't know the fine lines (or they know and choose to ignore them). I don't see the point of 20+ polls about Obsessed or Battlefield. Yet they are still created. Remember that these rules are not black and white. Certain significant events in the world can allow us to lax on some of these, but that does not mean everything is fair game. Please keep these polls about the music and direct any polls about celebrity conspiracies to the News/Entertainment Forum.
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Post by Nevermind on Jun 27, 2009 14:20:51 GMT -5
All these rules are unnecessary here. I think everyone knows what the fine lines are and what's ridiculous enough to get banned. Like the Beyonce vs. Christ polls can get closed, and the ones that are like "Obsessed"first verse vs. "Obsessed" second verse can get closed. Stuff like that. This is what's wrong - people don't know the fine lines (or they know and choose to ignore them). I don't see the point of 20+ polls about Obsessed or Battlefield. Yet they are still created. I know people find that irritating but these mass spikes in polls only come every few months when a big diva single leaks and only lasts for a few days. If people don't like that they should ignore it. All this does is stifle activity, and people naturally want to say, compare Mariah's new single to her last one, or want to rank her whole first singles in retrospective, or ask what it's chart potential is. I think the far greater problem was the Whitney and Ashanti fan clogging up the Polling Booth, rather than the general love of comparing diva single with diva single, which only reflects the general mood of the board. The majority obviously like the mass of diva polls, and those few that don't should really just ignore them: just don't enter the Poll thread if you're not bothered. It's better than possibly turning the Polling Booth into a graveyard of activity due to these new overbearing rules at least.
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Post by Pulse on Jun 27, 2009 14:31:45 GMT -5
^Agreed
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Post by G-Reg on Jun 27, 2009 15:25:20 GMT -5
I also agree with nevamind. Some of these rules are borderline ridiculous. I mean, I can somewhat understand why people need to keep the music news section orderly, but having all of these rules in the polling booth section is overkill. The polls are here because people are interested in them. My poll was about a musical artist, and locking it because I violated a fraction of rule 27a or whatever is unnecessary imo.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 27, 2009 17:11:40 GMT -5
This is what's wrong - people don't know the fine lines (or they know and choose to ignore them). I don't see the point of 20+ polls about Obsessed or Battlefield. Yet they are still created. I know people find that irritating but these mass spikes in polls only come every few months when a big diva single leaks and only lasts for a few days. If people don't like that they should ignore it. All this does is stifle activity, and people naturally want to say, compare Mariah's new single to her last one, or want to rank her whole first singles in retrospective, or ask what it's chart potential is. I think the far greater problem was the Whitney and Ashanti fan clogging up the Polling Booth, rather than the general love of comparing diva single with diva single, which only reflects the general mood of the board. The majority obviously like the mass of diva polls, and those few that don't should really just ignore them: just don't enter the Poll thread if you're not bothered. It's better than possibly turning the Polling Booth into a graveyard of activity due to these new overbearing rules at least. I dont think we have ever agreed this much
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Post by David on Jun 27, 2009 22:55:45 GMT -5
There's no need for 20+ polls a day on the same topic. Who cares if they come and go. The 20+ polls per day thing (and yes, this is probably being exaggerated) always has come & gone, but not with big enough gaps in between. Sure it may just be the hype of "Obsessed" last week, but whats the excuse gonna be next week? Just another "hype" or "mass spike"? These rules may seem dumb to some, but in all honesty, tell me why its necessary to have 20+ or even 10+ polls in a day on one topic? Its not. There's no need, so I really don't see that argument.
Sorry, but I agree with Acetic Acid.
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Post by WotUNeed on Jun 28, 2009 0:34:45 GMT -5
Wouldn't it make more sense to obey the rules and then report problems if they actually arise, as opposed to complaining about hypothetical situations? I'm sure, if one of the new rules really is stifling some positive board activity generated in the polling booth, the mods will note that and amend them.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jun 28, 2009 22:30:46 GMT -5
There's no need for 20+ polls a day on the same topic. Who cares if they come and go. The 20+ polls per day thing (and yes, this is probably being exaggerated) always has come & gone, but not with big enough gaps in between. Sure it may just be the hype of "Obsessed" last week, but whats the excuse gonna be next week? Just another "hype" or "mass spike"? These rules may seem dumb to some, but in all honesty, tell me why its necessary to have 20+ or even 10+ polls in a day on one topic? Its not. There's no need, so I really don't see that argument. Sorry, but I agree with Acetic Acid. I agree that the 10+ polls on the same topic are unnecessary, but those are *most of the time* made by the same poster and would be easy to stop (by warning/banning the troublemaker). To limit the number of polls on one specific subject/artist/song/album/etc... is ridiculous though. With these rules it will be impossible to ask two completely different questions about a song/album/artist/etc...which just seems stupid if the same unasked question will be asked the next day. #4 and 5 are too restrictive and simply ridiculous.
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