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Post by dbt88 on Jun 3, 2010 14:56:36 GMT -5
I hated how some of Britney's videos, esp the ones in her DWAD concert in Las Vegas was dubbed when obviously she was singing.
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Post by Ace on Jun 3, 2010 15:41:52 GMT -5
Welcome aboard! Anyone with an understanding and appreciation for Britney as you've shown in your short time here is a friend of mine! :) |
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Post by dbt88 on Jun 3, 2010 15:51:31 GMT -5
Welcome aboard! Anyone with an understanding and appreciation for Britney as you've shown in your short time here is a friend of mine! (I hope?) SLUT! kidding :) |
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Post by jessayli on Jun 3, 2010 16:37:31 GMT -5
You are correct. Pink could never lipsynch. Cause she would become irrelevant and a flop. GODney on the other hand could chew gum while lipping and people will still line up to see her. Is that suppose to be a compliment?  I vote P!nk. |
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 3, 2010 16:56:23 GMT -5
Ethan  Welcome aboard! Anyone with an understanding and appreciation for Britney as you've shown in your short time here is a friend of mine! :) |
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Post by neally on Jun 3, 2010 21:49:43 GMT -5
neally trolling a Britney-related thread?! Shocking! :o Weren't you the one who was saying Kelly's televised performances never do justice to the live ones? Complaining about this in as many threads as possible isn't going to stop people from doing it. You've never seen Britney and you don't stan for P!nk, so really, you wouldn't know. Choosing one or the other in this thread doesn't have to involve trashing the road not taken. Trolling ? I think NOT. In these polls, I usually make an effort to explain why I choose 'A' over 'B' (because I enjoy reading when others' explain their choices). In this thread, I wrote this "The ultra-athletic one who gives her audience stellar live vocals, eye-popping acrobatics, dancing, while playing massive stadiums instead of the one who lipsynchs, prances around the stage, and delivers music which I usually don't care for". Each line was then dissected by a member here: pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=polling&action=display&thread=97364&page=2. , to which I responded. What is interesting is that at least five people before me wrote about her lipsynching, walking around stage, poor dancing, chewing gum while walking around the same, etc. This is very similar to what I wrote- are they trolls too ?[/i] SMH at the attempt to single me out. You are correct in that I have said that Carrie and Kelly's performances live are much >>> than on some youtube clip because once can really appreciate the texture and richness of their live voices. However, you can not use the transitive property to apply this to Britney because she does not sing live like those other gals, nor has the vocal chops when she does rarely sing. Perhaps, I can not appreciate all of the visuals of Britney's shows on a youtube clip, but as you may know, I appreciate live vocals and stage presence firstly when I pay for a singer's concert, something extremely important to me (maybe not as much to others) when I give my hard-earned money to an artist. Actually, I have seen Pink several times and she is even better live than on those clips (I am trying to see in her Europe next month). I disagree with you since I feel that I do not need to "stan" for an artist to see/hear their merits or flaws. Perhaps, you feel that one needs to "stan" for an artist in order to compliment them. On occasion, I will still continue to comment on some of the disrespect delivered in the polls and threads. Perhaps, I am being idealistic, but as a member for nearly 5 years, I feel that it has strangely become progressively more acceptable to be rude to members, using disrespectful names when referring to artists, etc. I hope the pendulum swings back in the other direction... |
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 3, 2010 22:11:05 GMT -5
neally trolling a Britney-related thread?! Shocking! :o Weren't you the one who was saying Kelly's televised performances never do justice to the live ones? Complaining about this in as many threads as possible isn't going to stop people from doing it. You've never seen Britney and you don't stan for P!nk, so really, you wouldn't know. Choosing one or the other in this thread doesn't have to involve trashing the road not taken. Trolling ? I think NOT. In these polls, I usually make an effort to explain why I choose 'A' over 'B' (because I enjoy reading when others' explain their choices). In this thread, I wrote this "The ultra-athletic one who gives her audience stellar live vocals, eye-popping acrobatics, dancing, while playing massive stadiums instead of the one who lipsynchs, prances around the stage, and delivers music which I usually don't care for". Each line was then dissected by a member here: pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=polling&action=display&thread=97364&page=2. , to which I responded. What is interesting is that at least five people before me wrote about her lipsynching, walking around stage, poor dancing, chewing gum while walking around the same, etc. This is very similar to what I wrote- are they trolls too ?[/i] SMH at the attempt to single me out. You are correct in that I have said that Carrie and Kelly's performances live are much >>> than on some youtube clip because once can really appreciate the texture and richness of their live voices. However, you can not use the transitive property to apply this to Britney because she does not sing live like those other gals, nor has the vocal chops when she does rarely sing. Perhaps, I can not appreciate all of the visuals of Britney's shows on a youtube clip, but as you may know, I appreciate live vocals and stage presence firstly when I pay for a singer's concert, something extremely important to me (maybe not as much to others) when I give my hard-earned money to an artist. Actually, I have seen Pink several times and she is even better live than on those clips (I am trying to see in her Europe next month). I disagree with you since I feel that I do not need to "stan" for an artist to see/hear their merits or flaws. Perhaps, you feel that one needs to "stan" for an artist in order to compliment them. On occasion, I will still continue to comment on some of the disrespect delivered in the polls and threads. Perhaps, I am being idealistic, but as a member for nearly 5 years, I feel that it has strangely become progressively more acceptable to be rude to members, using disrespectful names when referring to artists, etc. I hope the pendulum swing back in the other direction...[/quote]  |
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Post by Ace on Jun 3, 2010 22:51:52 GMT -5
Trolling ? I think NOT. In these polls, I usually make an effort to explain why I choose 'A' over 'B' (because I enjoy reading when others' explain their choices). In this thread, I wrote this "The ultra-athletic one who gives her audience stellar live vocals, eye-popping acrobatics, dancing, while playing massive stadiums instead of the one who lipsynchs, prances around the stage, and delivers music which I usually don't care for". What is interesting is that at least five people before me wrote about her lipsynching, walking around stage, poor dancing, chewing gum while walking around the same, etc. This is very similar to what I wrote- are they trolls too ?[/i] SMH at the attempt to single me out.[/quote] Are you reaaaaally surprised someone deemed you to be trolling in this thread? Have you revisited your recent entries in the Polling Booth? It's blatantly obvious that your MO concerning Miss Spears is to take every opportunity to pass your judgement (and often those insufferable numerical ratings, for some reason) in these polls. In this instance, no, I wouldn't say the others are trolling. I haven't personally noticed a trend in their posting about B. Spears, but if you care to ring the alarm, I'll be happy to correct them as well. I'll use the transitive property to apply this to Britney's stage presence, visual elements, and ambiance of the entire spectacle. Seeing as how you've not seen Britney's show, it would seem, judging by qualifiers you yourself designated, that you aren't in a position to deign her performances "lifeless." Unless, of course, you recant on your previous statement and prefer to use youtube clips as your medium. And it should be noted that NEITHER of these shows is based solely on vocal prowess, so yes, those other intangible properties matter in this instance. Nope. I don't. As most stans of artists will take matters to another level in order to support their favorite, regardless of logic, I simply wanted to confirm that you were not passively deriding Spears out of stan loyalty. Disrespecting artists by playing on their names in a silly fashion is preferable to me any day to the condescending, backhanded, and entirely transparent manner in which you degrade Britney. |
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Post by josuem1415 on Jun 3, 2010 23:05:52 GMT -5
neally trolling a Britney-related thread?! Shocking! :o Weren't you the one who was saying Kelly's televised performances never do justice to the live ones? Complaining about this in as many threads as possible isn't going to stop people from doing it. You've never seen Britney and you don't stan for P!nk, so really, you wouldn't know. Choosing one or the other in this thread doesn't have to involve trashing the road not taken. Trolling ? I think NOT. In these polls, I usually make an effort to explain why I choose 'A' over 'B' (because I enjoy reading when others' explain their choices). In this thread, I wrote this "The ultra-athletic one who gives her audience stellar live vocals, eye-popping acrobatics, dancing, while playing massive stadiums instead of the one who lipsynchs, prances around the stage, and delivers music which I usually don't care for". Each line was then dissected by a member here: pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=polling&action=display&thread=97364&page=2. , to which I responded. What is interesting is that at least five people before me wrote about her lipsynching, walking around stage, poor dancing, chewing gum while walking around the same, etc. This is very similar to what I wrote- are they trolls too ?[/i] SMH at the attempt to single me out. You are correct in that I have said that Carrie and Kelly's performances live are much >>> than on some youtube clip because once can really appreciate the texture and richness of their live voices. However, you can not use the transitive property to apply this to Britney because she does not sing live like those other gals, nor has the vocal chops when she does rarely sing. Perhaps, I can not appreciate all of the visuals of Britney's shows on a youtube clip, but as you may know, I appreciate live vocals and stage presence firstly when I pay for a singer's concert, something extremely important to me (maybe not as much to others) when I give my hard-earned money to an artist. Actually, I have seen Pink several times and she is even better live than on those clips (I am trying to see in her Europe next month). I disagree with you since I feel that I do not need to "stan" for an artist to see/hear their merits or flaws. Perhaps, you feel that one needs to "stan" for an artist in order to compliment them. On occasion, I will still continue to comment on some of the disrespect delivered in the polls and threads. Perhaps, I am being idealistic, but as a member for nearly 5 years, I feel that it has strangely become progressively more acceptable to be rude to members, using disrespectful names when referring to artists, etc. I hope the pendulum swings back in the other direction...[/quote]  Too long and irrelevant. |
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Post by ismokedope on Jun 3, 2010 23:07:35 GMT -5
As usual, P!nk wins. Discussion over.
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Post by neally on Jun 3, 2010 23:10:39 GMT -5
Are you reaaaaally surprised someone deemed you to be trolling in this thread? Have you revisited your recent entries in the Polling Booth? It's blatantly obvious that your MO concerning Miss Spears is to take every opportunity to pass your judgement (and often those insufferable numerical ratings, for some reason) in these polls. In this instance, no, I wouldn't say the others are trolling. I haven't personally noticed a trend in their posting about B. Spears, but if you care to ring the alarm, I'll be happy to correct them as well. I didn't create any of these Britney threads, but as long as they are present, like every poster in this opinion-based poll section who posts their opinion before and after me, I shall post mine. Yes, I was passing my eye's and ear's opinion (ie: judgement) in this opinion based poll section because the last time I checked: o·pin·ion (-pnyn)A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert opinion. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing. I think that you maybe hypersensitive to critical opinions (not referring to rude or disrespectful ones) about Britney in an opinion-based forum, thereby clouding your ability to differentiate criticism from trolling. My posts about her music (vocals, stage presence, content of her lyrics, etc) in this music forum are simply my opinions. You are not in any way mandated to read them or agree with them, but please offer me the same respect as I do others by not attempting to silence the opinions that you do not agree with. That's all I ask.... |
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Post by josuem1415 on Jun 3, 2010 23:16:30 GMT -5
Are you reaaaaally surprised someone deemed you to be trolling in this thread? Have you revisited your recent entries in the Polling Booth? It's blatantly obvious that your MO concerning Miss Spears is to take every opportunity to pass your judgement (and often those insufferable numerical ratings, for some reason) in these polls. In this instance, no, I wouldn't say the others are trolling. I haven't personally noticed a trend in their posting about B. Spears, but if you care to ring the alarm, I'll be happy to correct them as well. I didn't create any of these Britney threads, but as long as they are present, like every poster in this opinion-based poll section who posts their opinion before and after me, I shall post mine. Yes, I was passing my eye's and ear's opinion (ie: judgement) in this opinion based poll section because the last time I checked: o·pin·ion (-pnyn)A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert opinion. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing. I think that you maybe hypersensitive to critical opinions (not referring to rude or disrespectful ones) about Britney in an opinion-based forum, thereby clouding your ability to differentiate criticism from trolling. My posts about her music (vocals, stage presence, content of her lyrics, etc) in this music forum are simply my opinions. You are not in any way mandated to read them or agree with them, but please offer me the same respect as I do others by not attempting to silence the opinions that you do not agree with. That's all I ask.... Damn, you gonna use up all my sleepy.gif collection. |
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Post by neally on Jun 3, 2010 23:20:27 GMT -5
^^ Exactly my point. Thanks for illustrating.
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Post by josuem1415 on Jun 3, 2010 23:22:00 GMT -5
^^ Exactly my point. Thanks for illustrating. What point? Do I have to read your post to know? |
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Post by ƒreakshow on Jun 4, 2010 0:13:17 GMT -5
I always think it's hard to explain to people how great The Circus tour was, it's something that needs to be experienced live and up close. The youtube videos simply don't do it justice. I can say that Britney was amazingly engaged in her performances and to the audience the entire time that I saw her and I saw her twice. The thing about Britney during that tour is that there is a certain kind of charisma about her that just made me incredibly excited to see her and experience the tour. She was amazing through out the entire set - MATM, Toxic, BOMT, etc where great performances. She was expressive and there were several highlights through out the tour including a portion of the set where Britney does her own areil portions of the show that were pretty awe-inspiring (Touch Of My Hand). There were portions of the show where the dances were very much on point (Get Naked), where she rocked the stage (Piece Of Me), and when she sang live (Everytime, You Ought Know). While P!nk is most definitely a notable performer and perhaps one of the best performers of the generation I wouldn't give up my experience to see Britney for pretty much anything. While she to did a trapeze act I saw her Funhouse DVD and was underwhelmed by how little action there was considering all of the hype there is for her. Does P!nk give more energy and more of herself to the audience? Perhaps. But I still think Britney is worth more at the end of the day. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( I miss this girl so much. |
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Post by David on Jun 4, 2010 0:21:35 GMT -5
I don't always agree with neally and sometimes I think his posts are LOL worthy, but this is definitely one time where I agree. Why all the shade guys?
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Post by josuem1415 on Jun 4, 2010 0:25:55 GMT -5
I don't always agree with neally and sometimes I think his posts are LOL worthy, but this is definitely one time where I agree. Why all the shade guys? With 7,000+ posts under your name you should know by now that shade has less to do with the actual artist, and more with the bobblehead st@n posting. |
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Post by PDC1987 on Jun 4, 2010 0:32:31 GMT -5
Wrong. Lip synching is miming the words, singing over backing tracks is singing over backing tracks. Unfortunately it seems that you are mistaken. Most lip syncing is simply an artists mic being lowered in favor of the stronger backtrack. You can even hear Britney singing behind the play back a lot of the time when you watch youtube videos of her tour. Most lip syncing is simply the mic being lowered in volume while singing along with the back track. Britney sings over backtracks which is why most of the time you can hear her voice underneath the back track. What a complete and utter crock of shit. Should have known this was Monroe. |
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Post by nsfb17 on Jun 4, 2010 7:38:58 GMT -5
^ It's not, though. Technically Britney doesn't lip-synch, since she sings along with the backing track and doesn't just mouth the words. There is a difference, as small and inconsequential as it may be. Trolling ? I think NOT. In these polls, I usually make an effort to explain why I choose 'A' over 'B' (because I enjoy reading when others' explain their choices). In this thread, I wrote this "The ultra-athletic one who gives her audience stellar live vocals, eye-popping acrobatics, dancing, while playing massive stadiums instead of the one who lipsynchs, prances around the stage, and delivers music which I usually don't care for". Each line was then dissected by a member here: pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=polling&action=display&thread=97364&page=2. , to which I responded. What is interesting is that at least five people before me wrote about her lipsynching, walking around stage, poor dancing, chewing gum while walking around the same, etc. This is very similar to what I wrote- are they trolls too ?[/i] SMH at the attempt to single me out. You are correct in that I have said that Carrie and Kelly's performances live are much >>> than on some youtube clip because once can really appreciate the texture and richness of their live voices. However, you can not use the transitive property to apply this to Britney because she does not sing live like those other gals, nor has the vocal chops when she does rarely sing. Perhaps, I can not appreciate all of the visuals of Britney's shows on a youtube clip, but as you may know, I appreciate live vocals and stage presence firstly when I pay for a singer's concert, something extremely important to me (maybe not as much to others) when I give my hard-earned money to an artist. Actually, I have seen Pink several times and she is even better live than on those clips (I am trying to see in her Europe next month). I disagree with you since I feel that I do not need to "stan" for an artist to see/hear their merits or flaws. Perhaps, you feel that one needs to "stan" for an artist in order to compliment them. On occasion, I will still continue to comment on some of the disrespect delivered in the polls and threads. Perhaps, I am being idealistic, but as a member for nearly 5 years, I feel that it has strangely become progressively more acceptable to be rude to members, using disrespectful names when referring to artists, etc. I hope the pendulum swing back in the other direction...[/quote] [/quote] |
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Post by Kii on Jun 4, 2010 9:52:20 GMT -5
...I'mma presume majority of the Britney votes were facetious. :)
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Post by Ace on Jun 4, 2010 10:14:06 GMT -5
I think that you maybe hypersensitive to critical opinions (not referring to rude or disrespectful ones) about Britney in an opinion-based forum, thereby clouding your ability to differentiate criticism from trolling.Your posts are rude and disrespectful; therefore, whether my judgment is clouded due to hypersensitivity is irrelevant. My posts regarding your posts about her music in this music forum are simply my opinions. You are not in any way mandated to read them or agree with them. Your personal preference for vocal prowess clouds your ability to pass critical judgment in this poll, and I feel that, in conjunction with your recent posts and personal disdain for a particular artist, it warrants being mentioned. In addition, you saw P!nk's show in person, thereby giving P!nk an undeniable advantage in your book. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2010 10:50:58 GMT -5
I think that you maybe hypersensitive to critical opinions (not referring to rude or disrespectful ones) about Britney in an opinion-based forum, thereby clouding your ability to differentiate criticism from trolling.Your posts are rude and disrespectful; therefore, whether my judgment is clouded due to hypersensitivity is irrelevant. My posts regarding your posts about her music in this music forum are simply my opinions. You are not in any way mandated to read them or agree with them. Your personal preference for vocal prowess clouds your ability to pass critical judgment in this poll, and I feel that, in conjunction with your recent posts and personal disdain for a particular artist, it warrants being mentioned. In addition, you saw P!nk's show in person, thereby giving P!nk an undeniable advantage in your book. Ace shuttin' neally downe with a G5 belted diaphragmatically. |
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Post by David on Jun 4, 2010 11:24:47 GMT -5
I don't always agree with neally and sometimes I think his posts are LOL worthy, but this is definitely one time where I agree. Why all the shade guys? With 7,000+ posts under your name you should know by now that shade has less to do with the actual artist, and more with the bobblehead st@n posting. I'm fully aware and I think everyone is out of line. |
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