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Post by Oɴʟуßoy® on Jul 12, 2010 14:21:07 GMT -5
Ok we all know these record companies are always making bad decisions whether it be with the artist promotion, single decisions and marketing strategies. But which record label really need some new management like this instance. Pulse you are now the president of each label!! *Discuss Discuss Discuss* Oh and drop an artist or two?
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jul 12, 2010 14:22:30 GMT -5
RCA, Jive is a REALLY close 2nd but they do make really good decisions at times.
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Post by dbt88 on Jul 12, 2010 14:26:37 GMT -5
RCA. J records have alot of idle artists. Jive is on the out as well, but since they still have hold of Britney, I'll be bias lols.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Jul 12, 2010 14:28:23 GMT -5
RCA, although none of them are looking that good right now
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Post by nightshade on Jul 12, 2010 14:30:35 GMT -5
RCA is bad but IDJ is way worse.
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Post by Haley on Jul 12, 2010 14:30:37 GMT -5
RCA & Jive are all under the Sony Music Umbrella, so yeah..most if not all of Sony's labels are pretty much a joke.
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Post by Stephen on Jul 12, 2010 14:33:14 GMT -5
Arista Nashville (under the Sony umbrella) is NO joke. >:(
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Post by Oɴʟуßoy® on Jul 12, 2010 14:33:36 GMT -5
I have to say Island def Jam. They are a joke. I cant believe these are the people in charge of RiRi and Mariah's career. I just cant even fathom thinking about that.
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Post by kt1990 on Jul 12, 2010 14:38:39 GMT -5
For me it's Warner Brothers, especially the Nashville division.
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Post by Haley on Jul 12, 2010 14:42:27 GMT -5
Arista Nashville (under the Sony umbrella) is NO joke. >:( Country artists seem to be sell more albums though (in comparison to Mainstream artists lately), and more easily as less promotion is needed and such. Lady Antebellum is a great example of that.
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Post by Cerbius on Jul 12, 2010 14:43:16 GMT -5
RCA!
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Post by Oɴʟуßoy® on Jul 12, 2010 14:44:40 GMT -5
all the Christina stans are gonna say RCA but they can only do as much
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 14:54:35 GMT -5
RCA (they along with Xtina fucked her era), they kinda screwed Kelly's era. However they didn't totally mess Adam and Ke$ha's era but overall they are terrible. Also they messed up Daughtry's era. As for the best record label, I would have to go with Interscope. They have some of the biggest sellers (Lady GaGa, Eminem, Black Eyed Peas).
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jul 12, 2010 15:00:51 GMT -5
Who else does Interscope have? It seems like they let their artist do their own thing and it always turns out good, unlock Sony labels.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 12, 2010 15:02:56 GMT -5
I have to say Island def Jam. They are a joke. I cant believe these are the people in charge of RiRi and Mariah's career. I just cant even fathom thinking about that. Tell me about it. After screwing 2 Mariah albums those incompetents should be looking for retirement
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 12, 2010 15:04:07 GMT -5
all the Christina stans are gonna say RCA but they can only do as much The shade! :'( LOL
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Post by Rurry on Jul 12, 2010 15:11:53 GMT -5
All labels suck in their own ways. No label is perfect. Out of the Sony Umbrella, I think Jive is probably the best. When they try they can do amazing things. Unfortunately, there are they just do not try at all (see: Allison Iraheta's career, Jordin's 2nd album) but when they actually put effort into something, they get it done, and they get it done quite well (Getting LLWD & Crush to hit status, Jordin's first era, the first half of the Circus era). RCA is probably the worst. They're responsible for a large amount of the most poorly handled eras of the past 10 years (My December, Bionic, any fly-by-night Idol contestant that was signed to them and dropped quickly) and even in their better eras, they make stupid mistakes (releasing All I Ever Wanted and I Do Not Hook Up over songs like If I Can't Have You during the AIEW era, some of Daughtry's singles choices have been questionable, they always seem to screw up Avril's singles). IDJ is pretty bad too, but they're good at promoting their artists at least. Interscope is probably the best overall label. Arista Nashville (under the Sony umbrella) is NO joke. >:( They're not so great either. I think we can all agree they've missed a lot of big opportunities with Carrie.
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Post by Cerbius on Jul 12, 2010 15:15:16 GMT -5
How is Columbia Records compared to these ones?
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Post by Rurry on Jul 12, 2010 15:17:28 GMT -5
all the Christina stans are gonna say RCA but they can only do as much Yeah the material on Bionic was pretty weak and not very radio-friendly but they could've at least picked a second single while NMT was falling as opposed to 2 months after it peaked.
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Post by Eqbk on Jul 12, 2010 15:21:57 GMT -5
RCA handles their newer artist okay (Adam Lambert, Ke$ha, early Christina and Kelly). They just have a problem handling their veteran acts (current Christina and Kelly). Sometimes it's due to RCA like them refusing to support 'My December.' However, sometimes its due to the artists like Adam's AMA performance or Christina being Christina. It's a combination of the label and the artists that make it bad so it's not the worst.
Jive would be the opposite. They manage to stay afloat despite their bad decisions b/c of the artists. For example, had it been up to Jive, 'Toxic' wouldn't have been released but luckily Britney fought for it. And Britney creates revenue by just being Britney. Of course, there's Justin as well. So while they make bad decisions they do manage to make it due to the artists, luck, and the occasional good decision.
IDJ gets my vote. They had two of the greatest eras ever (GGGB and TEOM) and they managed to ruin all momentum by their terrible decisions. And While the other labels were bad, it's not to the point where people want the head of the label to leave. Plus, didn't they just sign on J.Lo?
I don't know much about Warner Bros. so I can't comment.
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Post by esoteric76 on Jul 12, 2010 15:47:33 GMT -5
Arista Nashville (under the Sony umbrella) is NO joke. >:( Country artists seem to be sell more albums though (in comparison to Mainstream artists lately), and more easily as less promotion is needed and such. Lady Antebellum is a great example of that. Lady Antebellum comes from Capitol Nashville (EMI) which is one of the only bright spots from the giant. CN has a great staff and they spend a LONG time on artist development.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jul 12, 2010 15:50:00 GMT -5
Jive would be the opposite. They manage to stay afloat despite their bad decisions b/c of the artists. For example, had it been up to Jive, 'Toxic' wouldn't have been released but luckily Britney fought for it. And Britney creates revenue by just being Britney. Of course, there's Justin as well. So while they make bad decisions they do manage to make it due to the artists, luck, and the occasional good decision. Yea Jive has a lot of good stuff going for it but stuff like Allison Iraheta's debut, Jordin's 2nd album, Kris' 2nd single choice, David's 2nd single choice for his debut are unacceptable. Maybe it's just an Idol thing with them? I'm not sure.
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Post by Rurry on Jul 12, 2010 16:28:45 GMT -5
^Well not necessarily, they released Radar for Britney
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Post by Eqbk on Jul 12, 2010 16:30:42 GMT -5
Yea Jive has a lot of good stuff going for it but stuff like Allison Iraheta's debut, Jordin's 2nd album, Kris' 2nd single choice, David's 2nd single choice for his debut are unacceptable. Maybe it's just an Idol thing with them? I'm not sure. Yeah, what I'm trying to say is that while Jive makes bad decision, they aren't the worst label b/c some artists (Britney, Justin) manage to make it despite some bad decisions on Jive's part b/c they have great selling power or fight for Jive's decisions. The people you listed are artists who depend on Jive to make the right choices and suffer as a consequence. When Jive makes good decisions, the artists does okay. When they don't their era is basically over.
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Post by Cerbius on Jul 12, 2010 16:32:26 GMT -5
^Well not necessarily, they released Radar for Britney Weren't they forced to under contract obligations?
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Post by Rurry on Jul 12, 2010 16:39:37 GMT -5
^ I don't think that was ever confirmed, but if they did why didn't they just release it during the Blackout era? lol
I think Jive's eras tend to be very front loaded. They usually do really well with lead singles but often drop the ball afterwards. For example the first half of the Circus era was phenomenal, but after Circus (the single) they stopped putting much effort into the project. They handled David and Kris's debut singles very well but didn't do anything for their follow-ups. They did well with Jordin's Battlefield but failed her with her second single. Maybe they have a short attention span...lol
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Post by Cerbius on Jul 12, 2010 16:43:46 GMT -5
^ I don't think that was ever confirmed, but if they did why didn't they just release it during the Blackout era? lol I think Radar was supposed to be released after Break the Ice. But due to Britney's personal struggles at that time, they had to delay the release. Otherwise I see no reason why Jive would release a song from a previous album as a single.
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Post by Oɴʟуßoy® on Jul 12, 2010 16:45:15 GMT -5
^ I don't think that was ever confirmed, but if they did why didn't they just release it during the Blackout era? lol I think Jive's eras tend to be very front loaded. They usually do really well with lead singles but often drop the ball afterwards. For example the first half of the Circus era was phenomenal, but after Circus (the single) they stopped putting much effort into the project. They handled David and Kris's debut singles very well but didn't do anything for their follow-ups. They did well with Jordin's Battlefield but failed her with her second single. Maybe they have a short attention span...lol Or they bust their nut too quickly and lose the feeling afterwards
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Post by vandj4ever on Jul 12, 2010 16:50:42 GMT -5
Eh...the labels aren't the only reason for some of the issues fans are associating with their favorites eras but I'd probably say def Jam is the worst. RCA second. Jive third. I have to confess I don't know where to rank Warner. Which artists have released records with them lately?
Jive is cheap but when they want to they can handle you well. RCA is willing to spend money to promote it's artists but when you exercise poor judgement in how to market them to radio (their primary purpose with releases) the money is wasted. def Jam...is just a disaster. I can't find one positive in their case.
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Post by Oɴʟуßoy® on Jul 12, 2010 17:14:38 GMT -5
IKR. Island Def Jam has some of the most famous artists but they're management is just screwed up. The only thing they are good at is promoting but I dont see them doing that because artists like MC and RiRi basically promote themselves.
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