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Post by Rodze on Sept 9, 2010 10:18:16 GMT -5
^ I think the direction of their new album will result in significant lower sales. At least initially -- it might always be the new "American Idiot".
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 9, 2010 12:59:14 GMT -5
slicknickshady has just exploded with excitement! Hardly. Now when they certify the MMLP and TES as Diamond ill explode with excitement. My thoughts on this is just...It's about time. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Sept 9, 2010 14:52:38 GMT -5
i personally belive its because they raised the price this year. when was the price risen (maybe it was mid-late 2009) They only raised the price on new tracks and those still sell just as well as they did before no older songs got the price increase too usually if they were released as singles |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2010 14:54:51 GMT -5
I just bought some 99 cent tracks just the other day ???
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Post by Rodze on Sept 9, 2010 15:16:36 GMT -5
There are brand new tracks for $0.99 The price is variable.
But the reason for the negative percentage in sales can only be lower sales for catalog tracks. The new hits are not just selling the same as they did, they are selling even more (we now have songs easily topping 3 million and 4 million, for instance) than before the price increase.
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Post by Honeymoon on Sept 9, 2010 15:18:56 GMT -5
I just bought some 99 cent tracks just the other day ??? The vast majority of the top 200 tracks are $1.29 A lot of the older and obscure songs are still 99 cents though. Or if a label really wants to push a song an extra bit then sometimes it's priced 99 cents. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Sept 9, 2010 15:22:24 GMT -5
I just bought some 99 cent tracks just the other day ??? There are some...but like Oops i did it again and stronger got price increases as well as new songs. 99cents are usually undiscovored artists or trying to get really big |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2010 15:58:55 GMT -5
For reference: itunes pricing tiers
iTunes New Prices, aka Variable Pricing
By Sam Costello, About.com Guide
See More About:itunes plusitunes featuresWhile the iTunes Store has long been known as the place that you can buy any song for US$0.99, with the advent of iTunes Plus, that changed. And, with iTunes Plus coming to the entire store – and DRM leaving – the pricing of music at iTunes changed substantially.
The structure of the new iTunes prices, called variable pricing, gives record companies – not Apple – control over the iTunes prices. In exchange, users get DRM-free music that sounds better (iTunes Plus is encoded at 256kbps, a higher rate than earlier music) – and a deal on upgrades.
iTunes' New Prices
As of April 2009, songs sold at the iTunes Store will have a three-tiered price structure:
$0.69 - for back catalog songs
$0.99 – for standard songs
$1.29 – for new releases and popular tracks.
The price given to a song will be set by the record company that owns the song
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2010 16:09:08 GMT -5
My original point, the lower pricing tiers, have likely been picked clean by those who have an interest in something not currently charting. This would explain the peak.
The hits are still selling as well as they always have and probably even better.
The same thing happened to CDs. The was an initial boom as people started to convert cassettes and vinyl over to CD, once they completed that, you had much slower growth and the start of the decline which has since accelerated for other reasons
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Post by SWAG. on Sept 9, 2010 21:01:12 GMT -5
Can someone provide a list of the albums being released next week? I want to know if Trey Songz stands a chance of getting his first #1 album. Thanks in advance!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2010 21:05:39 GMT -5
Key releases next week are from Robert Plant and Linkin Park
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Post by Glove Slap on Sept 9, 2010 21:07:25 GMT -5
Linkin Park will take it easily.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2010 21:13:17 GMT -5
That would be my guess
Although Robert Plant's last album was a big success
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Post by SWAG. on Sept 9, 2010 21:14:15 GMT -5
Key releases next week are from Robert Plant and Linkin Park Thanks a lot for answering, 2m! So much for that dream. LMAO. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Sept 9, 2010 21:14:48 GMT -5
True, but we're only thinking about first week sales here. I know that a lot of LP fans weren't too fond of the last album, but I don't think it would lower this project's first week sales to the point where either Plant or Songz would be a thread.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2010 21:19:10 GMT -5
Key releases next week are from Robert Plant and Linkin Park Thanks a lot for answering, 2m! So much for that dream. LMAO. LOL - sorry ;) |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 9, 2010 22:15:34 GMT -5
I never even noticed- are there $.69 tracks at iTunes? I still see the occasional $.99, but I must have missed the $.69 ones. Nice that Relapse was certified- will it take a year for Recovery to be certified?  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2010 22:19:26 GMT -5
I don't know
As the note said, the record companies get to decide what a "standard" song is and what "back catalog" is
Obviously though, not everything is "popular" and sold at 1.29
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 9, 2010 22:20:17 GMT -5
How do you guys think Linkin Park will do on the charts when their album comes out next week? All their previous albums have sold like crazy, but "The Catalyst" does not seem to be a huge hit, and pales in comparison to "What I've Done". Do you guys think having a performance at the VMA's 2 days before the album comes out will have a big difference. Also, are the top 200 sales gone permanently? Linkin Park will debut at #1. That's a no-brainer. The two real questions are 1) "How much will they sell their first week out?" and 2) "Will this era have legs anywhere as long as those of previous eras?"Frankly, I think they're looking at sharp declines in both first-week figures and longevity this era. I think "A Thousand Suns" will be for Linkin Park what "Pop" was for U2. They'll nab their #1 debut and have superior sales in their first-week compared to most other artists..........but figures will also be well-off the 625,000 "Minutes to Midnight" shipped its first week of release, and I also predict a moderately nasty spill down the Billboard 200 in subsequent weeks. Really, I don't see them even going Platinum this era. Final domestic sales will tally around 700,000 copies, I'm predicting. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus |
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 9, 2010 22:23:32 GMT -5
Finally Eminem got it!Damn, i have been waiting for this for a long time. But maybe its because its moving too slow and might not go 3xp, anyways happy for Em! Recovery will most likely end up with 3xp at the end of the year.... "Recovery" will easily reach triple-platinum status by the end of the year. With the album yet to be buoyed by a holiday shopping season, I'd even argue there's at least a fair chance it will garner a quadruple-platinum certification before the holiday season comes to a close. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus |
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Post by 3m3r7c on Sept 10, 2010 10:01:00 GMT -5
It's another tight race for #1 next week as Sara Bareilles and Eminem go head to head. In his 12th week on the chart, Slim Shady will likely see a boost from his performance in the opening slot on this weekend's VMAs. Here's how it looks headed into the weekend.
*Sara Bareilles (Epic) 85-90k
Eminem (Shady/Aftermath/Interscope) 85-90k
Now 35 (Capitol/EMI) 75-80k
Katy Perry (Capitol/EMI) 70-75k
Disturbed (Reprise) 55-60k
*Stone Sour (Roadrunner) 45-50k
Camp Rock 2 (Walt Disney) 35-40k
*Anberlin (Universal Republic) 35-40k
*Interpol (Matador) 30-35k
Justin Bieber (Island/IDJ) 27-30k
Fantasia (J/RMG) 27-30k
Usher (LaFace/JLG) 18-21k
Lady Antebellum (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 18-21k
Drake (Young Money/Cash Money/Universal Motown) 17-20k
Kem (Universal Motown) 17-20k
*Debuts (9/9p)
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Post by Honeymoon on Sept 10, 2010 10:17:52 GMT -5
Finally Eminem got it!Damn, i have been waiting for this for a long time. But maybe its because its moving too slow and might not go 3xp, anyways happy for Em! Recovery will most likely end up with 3xp at the end of the year.... "Recovery" will easily reach triple-platinum status by the end of the year. With the album yet to be buoyed by a holiday shopping season, I'd even argue there's at least a fair chance it will garner a quadruple-platinum certification before the holiday season comes to a close. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus I see it approaching 4 million by the new year. |
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Post by WotUNeed on Sept 10, 2010 17:01:15 GMT -5
I never even noticed- are there $.69 tracks at iTunes? I still see the occasional $.99, but I must have missed the $.69 ones. Yep. All at label discretion. For example, here's a #1 hit with that pricing. |
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Post by SHOOTER on Sept 11, 2010 1:29:52 GMT -5
I think Eminem at the VMAs will boost him back to #1, which sucks because I wanted it to be Sara.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 11, 2010 4:09:35 GMT -5
But the VMA affects next week, not this week, no?
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Post by kt1990 on Sept 11, 2010 6:36:39 GMT -5
^I'm not sure. When does the sales week end?
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Post by speeddial on Sept 11, 2010 7:53:23 GMT -5
^Sunday
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Post by Rodze on Sept 11, 2010 8:15:22 GMT -5
Sunday digital album sales for Eminem because of the VMA may be what will take the #1 away from Sara.
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Post by 3m3r7c on Sept 11, 2010 10:57:28 GMT -5
That is what i figured too monday to sunday is the sales week and the show happens sunday night so you would think some stores would close down before anybody could go out and buy the cd, most people would probably just wait till monday which would boost sales next week.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 11, 2010 11:36:14 GMT -5
So I imagine those Sunday night sales might make a difference only if the gap is max. couple of thousand copies.
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