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Post by musicissalvation on Sept 14, 2010 23:31:57 GMT -5
It's like her fans think she invented oxygen or something.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2010 23:55:53 GMT -5
No They have been as young as 4 before I was hoping someone else would bring up Jordy so I wouldn't have to (ha ha ha). I think Willow is, though, the most recently born person to chart. She was born October 31, 2000 (jeez), which I believe makes her the first person born in the 21st century to chart. From the 7-10-1993 chart 58 63 75 9 Dur Dur D etre BeBe! (It s Tough To Be A Baby), Jordy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2010 23:57:02 GMT -5
Not a big hit but still charted, Jordy would be 21 or so now
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Post by neally on Sept 15, 2010 0:29:04 GMT -5
All you wrote could be said about Rihanna too. I'm far from a hater, in fact you can read some of my posts here in this very thread, and actually believe that Rihanna should be credited in what she has accomplished.... but, please some of her fans are too much. She too isn't the 2nd coming of Christ or an innovative artist.... her producers are. Oh, and even if GaGa's next (or her 3rd, or 4th) album flops, she will have a very lucrative career in the producing, composing business. And that's something Rihanna won't. Anyways, back to topic. I think this (if even this week TD stays at #1) will be the last week of TD @ #1. And frankly I foresee a very dynamic chart for the next month or so. Not one song has the huge advantage on airplay and downloads over the others, so we COULD have a very fast rotation @ #1. What do you mean? If Rihanna has changed it's a gradual thing but if you look at interviews her personality is the same, she's older so that's normal if you see changes with GaGa I mean EVERYTHING, I really do commend her vision for the world but shes so phony she hasnt been sincere since shes gotten big and u fans and herself still try to act like she does way more then she really does, bitch has producers just like everyone else. Rihanna's obviously got that thing cause if it was just the producers Commander would have done this exact same thing no? (zoom to #1) Stop undercrediting, it's the power of her name and bitch has earned it, so has GaGa but its Y'ALL that give her 2 much.. remember this girl? www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dP_9IbhIikoh how one can change with success. u cant even turn this back on rihanna cause it doesnt apply at all, never does rihanna act like shes more then what she is and im not throwing shade i brought this up cause u started doing the typical overcrediting gaga BS. OMG @ that vide :o ! Other than the physical appearance, I would never recognize that Lady Gaga from just a year and half ago. She seems so down-to-earth, charming, endearing, thankful for her fame, and most shockingly cute when teaching those dance moves to the show co-hosts. The Lady Gaga today has done a 180, a turn which likely grabs the headlines. Sadly, since the more "edgy/controversial" character is what is putting her in media, she will likely not be playing her pre-fame characeter any time soon....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 0:29:40 GMT -5
Just a guess, but I'm thinking the reason people aren't too crazy about buying Rihanna's albums is that she doesn't seem to have much identity as an artist. I know she co-wrote most of Rated R, but overall in her career she hasn't had much of a hand in songwriting or production. She seems to be more of a tool for today's hottest songwriters and producers. Please don't think I'm attacking her because I have no problem with Rihanna - I think she does have a number of really fun songs - but I haven't noticed any particular creative drive or vision of hers other than just being a big pop star. On top of that, she's a decent singer, but not out-of-this-world by any means. What you just wrote applies perfectly to Britney, then does why Britney can sell albums but not Rihanna? I'm glad somebody said it, because I was just wondering the same thing. Except that Rihanna at least still actually sings in concert, unlike Britney. ;)
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Post by lugus15 on Sept 15, 2010 0:38:00 GMT -5
What do you mean? If Rihanna has changed it's a gradual thing but if you look at interviews her personality is the same, she's older so that's normal if you see changes with GaGa I mean EVERYTHING, I really do commend her vision for the world but shes so phony she hasnt been sincere since shes gotten big and u fans and herself still try to act like she does way more then she really does, bitch has producers just like everyone else. Rihanna's obviously got that thing cause if it was just the producers Commander would have done this exact same thing no? (zoom to #1) Stop undercrediting, it's the power of her name and bitch has earned it, so has GaGa but its Y'ALL that give her 2 much.. remember this girl? www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dP_9IbhIikoh how one can change with success. u cant even turn this back on rihanna cause it doesnt apply at all, never does rihanna act like shes more then what she is and im not throwing shade i brought this up cause u started doing the typical overcrediting gaga BS. OMG @ that vide :o ! Other than the physical appearance, I would never recognize that Lady Gaga from just a year and half ago. She seems so down-to-earth, charming, endearing, thankful for her fame, and most shockingly cute when teaching those dance moves to the show co-hosts. The Lady Gaga today has done a 180, a turn which likely grabs the headlines. Sadly, since the more "edgy/controversial" character is what is putting her in media, she will likely not be playing her pre-fame characeter any time soon.... I know :( It would be wise for her to lay low for the next 6 months or so.... make people miss her. But, it's not like other big artists don't change. Check the Madonna of her first singles and the Madonna circa 1985 and you'll see a similar difference.
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Post by lugus15 on Sept 15, 2010 0:42:23 GMT -5
What you just wrote applies perfectly to Britney, then does why Britney can sell albums but not Rihanna? I'm glad somebody said it, because I was just wondering the same thing. Except that Rihanna at least still actually sings in concert, unlike Britney. ;) You can't really compare (sales wise) Britney and Rihanna. Britney came to be when album sales were at an all time high. Rihanna when album sales were starting the steep decline. For example, remember Dream??? Well their album went platinum. Nowadays, most of them singles Pop acts can't even reach 300K.
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Post by $uperb@tDuDe on Sept 15, 2010 1:25:03 GMT -5
I do miss the old Gaga (can we even really say old since she's only been out for 2 years). But yeah her personality has changed a lot and she seems very sad and almost confused in comparison to the more bubbly personality she had in the beginning.
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Post by neverduplicated on Sept 15, 2010 3:12:36 GMT -5
Just a guess, but I'm thinking the reason people aren't too crazy about buying Rihanna's albums is that she doesn't seem to have much identity as an artist. I know she co-wrote most of Rated R, but overall in her career she hasn't had much of a hand in songwriting or production. She seems to be more of a tool for today's hottest songwriters and producers. Please don't think I'm attacking her because I have no problem with Rihanna - I think she does have a number of really fun songs - but I haven't noticed any particular creative drive or vision of hers other than just being a big pop star. On top of that, she's a decent singer, but not out-of-this-world by any means. What you just wrote applies perfectly to Britney, then does why Britney can sell albums but not Rihanna? That is a very good point, and I can't really answer that with any sort of certainty. Britney has always been sort of a strange anomaly for me. She had a ridiculous hype around her when she first came out for whatever reason, and I really don't get why she's still successful other than her fans are unexplainably loyal.
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Post by slw84 on Sept 15, 2010 4:00:04 GMT -5
I'm glad somebody said it, because I was just wondering the same thing. Except that Rihanna at least still actually sings in concert, unlike Britney. ;) You can't really compare (sales wise) Britney and Rihanna. Britney came to be when album sales were at an all time high. Rihanna when album sales were starting the steep decline. For example, remember Dream??? Well their album went platinum. Nowadays, most of them singles Pop acts can't even reach 300K. But jessica simpson went 2x platinum when her peers were selling 8x, 14x, 10x platinum year by year. Releasing at a time when sales are high is so lame when so many acts still struggle to go platinum during those times. But yeah, comparing to two album sales is like comparing their singles...it's too uneven.
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Post by hitseeker. on Sept 15, 2010 5:31:51 GMT -5
she must be the youngest artist to debut on any Billboard chart right? No They have been as young as 4 before oh I didn't know that, 4 is very young lol, thanks for the info ;)
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Post by Diego on Sept 15, 2010 7:57:13 GMT -5
Mediabase
1. EMINEM - Love The Way You Lie f/Rihanna: 136.163 (- 0.646) 2. TAIO CRUZ - Dynamite: 115.070 (- 0.820) 3. ENRIQUE IGLESIAS - I Like It f/Pitbull: 102.726 (+ 1.339) 4. KATY PERRY - Teenage Dream: 102.130 (+ 1.112) 5. USHER F/PITBULL - DJ Got Us Fallin’ In Love: 93.297 (- 0.056) 6. BRUNO MARS - Just The Way You Are: 84.159 (+ 2.901) 7. TAYLOR SWIFT - Mine: 78.221 (+ 1.484) 8. MIKE POSNER - Cooler Than Me: 70.917 (- 1.128) 9. KATY PERRY - California Gurls f/Snoop Dogg: 70.650 (- 0.497) 10. CHRIS BROWN - Deuces f/Tyga & Kevin McCall: 63.997 (+ 0.320)
11. MAROON 5 - Misery: 59.314 (- 0.181) ▲ 12. UNCLE KRACKER - Smile: 58.024 (- 1.504) ▼ 13. B.O.B - Airplanes f/Hayley Williams: 57.491 (- 0.733) 14. KE$HA - Take It Off: 51.515 (+ 0.318) ▲ 15. DRAKE - Find Your Love: 51.203 (- 1.573) ▼ 16. TREY SONGZ - Bottoms Up f/Nick Minaj: 50.768 (+ 2.058) ▲ 17. LADY ANTEBELLUM - Our Kind Of Love: 50.755 (+ 0.350) ▼ 18. TRAIN - Hey, Soul Sister: 49.067 (- 0.118) ▼ 19. LADY ANTEBELLUM - Need You Now: 48.093 (- 0.499) 20. BILLY CURRINGTON - Pretty Good At Drinkin' Beer: 47.352 (- 0.611)
KENNY CHESNEY - The Boys Of Fall: 46.478 (+ 0.799) THE SCRIPT - Breakeven: 46.320 (+ 0.521) NELLY - Just A Dream: 45.263 (+ 1.634) FLO RIDA - Club Can't Handle Me f/DGuetta: 44.442 (+ 0.361) DRAKE - Miss Me f/Lil Wayne: 43.666 (- 1.208) JOSH TURNER - All Over Me: 42.521 (+ 0.322) EASTON CORBIN - Roll With It: 42.326 (+ 0.624) MONICA - Love All Over Me: 41.819 (- 0.348) JASON DERULO - Ridin' Solo: 41.177 (- 2.540) JOHN MAYER - Half Of My Heart: 37.216 (- 0.405) USHER - Hot Tottie f/Jay-Z: 36.800 (- 0.486) TRAIN - If It's Love: 35.885 (- 1.008) NEON TREES - Animal: 35.841 (+ 0.645) DRAKE - Fancy f/T.I. & Swizz Beatz: 35.126 (+ 0.794) B.O.B - Magic f/Rivers Cuomo: 32.861 (- 0.707) SUGARLAND - Stuck Like Glue: 32.331 (+ 0.098) ADAM LAMBERT - If I Had You: 31.595 (+ 0.511) T.I. - Got Your Back f/Keri Hilson: 30.591 (- 0.572) ONEREPUBLIC - Secrets: 30.322 (+ 0.439) RASCAL FLATTS - Why Wait: 29.048 (+ 0.341) RICK ROSS - Blowin' Money Fast (B.M.F.): 28.746 (- 0.446) DAUGHTRY - September: 28.354 (+ 0.496) FAR EAST MOVEMENT - Like A G6 f/Cataracs & Dev: 27.082 (+ 1.745) RIHANNA - Only Girl (In The World): 26.295 (+ 0.179) FANTASIA - Bittersweet: 25.892 (- 1.102) ZAC BROWN BAND/A. JACKSON - As She's Walking Away: 25.512 (+ 0.463) JAZMINE SULLIVAN - Holding You Down (Goin' In ...: 25.500 (+ 0.771) SARA BAREILLES - King Of Anything: 24.552 (+ 0.584) THE BAND PERRY - If I Die Young: 24.525 (+ 0.210) JAY SEAN - 2012 (It Ain't The End): 17.623 (- 0.051) SEAN KINGSTON - Letting Go (Dutty Love): 15.498 (- 0.267) CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Mama's Song: 14.960 (+ 1.231) LINKIN PARK - The Catalyst: 9.392 (- 0.161) BRANDON FLOWERS - Crossfire: 8.050 (- 0.024)
LIL WAYNE - Right Above It f/Drake: 16.405 (+ 0.687)
MIRANDA LAMBERT - Only Prettier: 14.810 (+ 0.395)
AUBURN - La La La: 13.185 (- 0.312)
LIFEHOUSE - All In: 12.189 (+ 0.197)
TREY SONGZ - Can't Be Friends: 12.179 (+ 1.234)
JUSTIN BIEBER - U Smile: 11.419 (+ 0.001)
THE SCRIPT - Man Who Can't Be Moved: 9.329 (- 0.378)
WILL. I. AM & NICKI MINAJ - Check It Out: 7.111 (+ 0.615)
KINGS OF LEON - Radioactive: 6.787 (+ 0.933)
SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE - Round & Round: 5.348 (+ 0.159)
WILLOW - Whip My Hair: 4.519 (+ 0.603)
CIARA - Speechless: 2.125 (- 0.024)
JESSE MCCARTNEY - Shake: 2.031 (+ 0.176)
KELLY ROWLAND - Grown Woman: 2.009 (- 0.189)
CHRISTINA PERRI - Jar Of Hearts: 1.382 (- 0.003)
KELLY ROWLAND - Rose Colored Glasses: 1.281 (- 0.083)
SHONTELLE - Perfect Nightmare: 0.388
CIARA - Gimmie Dat: 0.172 (+ 0.005)
BRANDON FLOWERS - Only The Young: 0.034 (=)
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Post by nickim on Sept 15, 2010 9:25:31 GMT -5
:o Look at Trey gaining +1 mil with both of his songs! Looks like radio and people are appriciating him more and more .
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Post by lugus15 on Sept 15, 2010 9:26:51 GMT -5
RIHANNA - Only Girl (In The World): 26.295 (+ 0.179) Say what?????
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Post by nighttime on Sept 15, 2010 10:24:05 GMT -5
RIHANNA - Only Girl (In The World): 26.295 (+ 0.179) Say what????? 8th Day
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Post by kingofpain on Sept 15, 2010 10:47:03 GMT -5
What a shame Crossfire never took off here... Is that his second single that they're already promoting?? I really wish they'd give Crossfire another chance.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Sept 15, 2010 10:48:51 GMT -5
Damn, look at Enrique go.
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Post by SWAG. on Sept 15, 2010 10:54:03 GMT -5
TREY SONGZ - Bottoms Up f/Nick Minaj: 50.768 (+ 2.058) TREY SONGZ - Can't Be Friends: 12.179 (+ 1.234)
Trey is killing it right now! Wow!
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Post by badrobot on Sept 15, 2010 11:00:13 GMT -5
Outside the top 10 this week, we notice how Florence + the Machine's "Lungs" vaults from No. 100 to No. 44 with 8,000 (up 70% -- the largest percentage gain on the chart). The act was nominated for a number of MTV Video Music Awards for its video "Dog Dogs Are Over" and played the tune on Sunday night's (12) show. "Dog Days" also debuts at No. 52 on the Digital Songs chart with that single, shifting 27,000 downloads (up 276%). Because the VMAs took place on a Sunday night, and since the SoundScan's sales tracking week ends at the close of business on Sunday each week, the show's impact on the charts this week is a bit muted. Thus, any punch felt from the VMAs will be distributed over two weeks.
At the top of the Digital Songs chart this week is a new No. 1: Bruno Mars' "Just the Way You Are," which moves up one notch with 209,000 (up 19%). It displaces Perry's "Teenage Dream," as it falls to No. 2 with 197,000 (down 11%). It's the first time Mars has been No. 1 on the Digital Songs chart as a lead artist. He previously guested on B.o.B's No. 1 "Nothin' On You."
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Looks like Katy's airplay edge will put her above Bruno. Depends how far below Katy Taio & Eminem are in sales for the #1.
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Post by Diego on Sept 15, 2010 11:18:10 GMT -5
*Hopes for another #1 week for Katy*
Bruno has it on lock next week so let Katy have just one more!
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Post by badrobot on Sept 15, 2010 11:46:16 GMT -5
*Hopes for another #1 week for Katy* Bruno has it on lock next week so let Katy have just one more! Er... Bruno definitely doesn't have it on lock. If Rihanna pulls around 300k she'd be the winner. Nobody ever really has it on lock. :)
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Post by groovy on Sept 15, 2010 11:52:59 GMT -5
* Teenage Dream 197,000 + 102,130 = 299,130 * Just The Way You Are 209,000 + 84,159 = 293,159
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Post by felipe on Sept 15, 2010 11:54:01 GMT -5
What do you mean? If Rihanna has changed it's a gradual thing but if you look at interviews her personality is the same, she's older so that's normal if you see changes with GaGa I mean EVERYTHING, I really do commend her vision for the world but shes so phony she hasnt been sincere since shes gotten big and u fans and herself still try to act like she does way more then she really does, bitch has producers just like everyone else. Rihanna's obviously got that thing cause if it was just the producers Commander would have done this exact same thing no? (zoom to #1) Stop undercrediting, it's the power of her name and bitch has earned it, so has GaGa but its Y'ALL that give her 2 much.. remember this girl? www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dP_9IbhIikoh how one can change with success. u cant even turn this back on rihanna cause it doesnt apply at all, never does rihanna act like shes more then what she is and im not throwing shade i brought this up cause u started doing the typical overcrediting gaga BS. OMG @ that vide :o ! Other than the physical appearance, I would never recognize that Lady Gaga from just a year and half ago. She seems so down-to-earth, charming, endearing, thankful for her fame, and most shockingly cute when teaching those dance moves to the show co-hosts. The Lady Gaga today has done a 180, a turn which likely grabs the headlines. Sadly, since the more "edgy/controversial" character is what is putting her in media, she will likely not be playing her pre-fame characeter any time soon.... I can't believe that video! It's like Gaga was a whole different person before she found out being weird actually sells more.
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Post by Diego on Sept 15, 2010 12:02:45 GMT -5
*Hopes for another #1 week for Katy* Bruno has it on lock next week so let Katy have just one more! Er... Bruno definitely doesn't have it on lock. If Rihanna pulls around 300k she'd be the winner. Nobody ever really has it on lock. :) I meant Bruno looks poised to take it - with his large airplay gains and steady sales, while Em & Taio dip in sales & airplay and Katy losing some sales. Judging by the pop bars, Rihanna will probably do 250-270K tops. Anyways, we'll see!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 14:12:01 GMT -5
$ha this week becomes the second "lead artist," following Lady Gaga, to amass four million-selling downloads in 2010. She achieves the feat as "Take It Off" tops the 1 million mark. It follows "TiK ToK," "Your Love Is My Drug" and "Blah Blah Blah" (featuring 3OH!3). Lady Gaga has topped the 1 million mark in 2010 sales with "Telephone" (featuring Beyonce), "Bad Romance," "Alejandro" and "Poker Face."
Ke$ha was also featured on 3OH!3's "My First Kiss," which has topped the 1 million mark. This gives her a total of five million-sellers (combining lead and featured credits). Only one other artist has equaled that tally in 2010. That would be Ludacris, who has topped the 1 million mark with his own hits "How Low" and "My Chick Bad" (featuring Nicki Minaj) and as a featured artist on Taio Cruz's "Break Your Heart," Justin Bieber's "Baby" and DJ Khaled's "All I Do Is Win."
Two other songs top the 1 million mark in paid downloads this week: "Magic" by B.o.B featuring Rivers Cuomo and "DJ Got Us Falling In Love" by Usher featuring Pitbull. It's the third million-seller of the year for B.o.B; the second for both Usher and Pitbull. Brandon Flowers' solo debut album, Flamingo, enters the U.K. chart at #1. (It will make a high debut on The Billboard 200 next week.) Flowers' band, The Killers, has topped the U.K. chart with three of its four albums, Hot Fuss, Sam's Town and Day & Age. Flamingo is the first solo debut album to hit #1 in the U.K. since Beyonce's Dangerously In Love reached the top spot in July 2003.
The Killers have yet to have a #1 album in the U.S. Sam's Town, the band's highest-charting album, reached #2. (Incidentally, Flamingo was named after a main street in Las Vegas, which is Flowers' home town.)
Here's the top 10 on Hot Digital Songs, as tabulated by Nielsen/SoundScan. Bruno Mars' "Just The Way You Are" jumps from #2 to #1 (209K). Katy Perry's "Teenage Dream" dips from #1 to #2 (197K). Taio Cruz's "Dynamite" holds at #3 for the third week (155K). Nelly's "Just A Dream" jumps from #7 to #4 (155K). Eminem featuring Rihanna's "Love The Way You Lie" dips from #4 to #5 (147K). Enrique Iglesias featuring Pitbull's "I Like It" holds at #6 for the third week (137K). Usher featuring Pitbull's "DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love" drops from #5 to #7 (137K). Flo Rida featuring David Guetta's "Club Can't Handle Me" jumps from #11 to #8 (119K). Ke$ha's "Take It Off dips from #8 to #9 (115K). B.o.B featuring Rivers Cuomo's "Magic" holds at #10 for the second week (108K).
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Post by elementd5 on Sept 15, 2010 14:18:17 GMT -5
Katy should be #1 and Bruno could get to #2. Cool beans.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 19:00:59 GMT -5
Katy Perry is #1 and Bruno is #3
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 20:19:37 GMT -5
Bruno is #3 this week, the 10/2 chart would be this songs likely shot at #1
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Post by kingofpain on Sept 15, 2010 21:00:32 GMT -5
We No Speak Americano is now at 90 on itunes... has anyone heard it on the radio here yet?? I hope it catches fire in the US... what's the airplay numbers??
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Post by Diego on Sept 15, 2010 22:06:00 GMT -5
Yay Katy! This is her 15th week atop the Billboard Hot 100
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