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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 2, 2011 22:11:15 GMT -5
I hope they don't re-release "Get Thru This" as a single? Didn't it even hit the top 50 back in the day? I hope they have a better song than that on the album other than "Die Trying".
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Post by pen on Mar 3, 2011 7:04:10 GMT -5
"Vices and Virtues" track listing - 1. "Die Trying" 2. "Get Thru This" 3. "Sorry" 4. "Whole World's Crazy" 5. "Completely" 6. "I Will Be There" 7. "You Don't Know Me" 8. "Raining" (featuring Adam Gontier) 9. "Best I Can" 10. "Straight Across My Mind" 11. "Breathe Again" ... Well, tracks 2, 5, 6, 7 & 8 must be hot Art of Dying remakes. Old fans have been done over here, but I hope the newer versions have improved the originals. "Completely" & "I Will Be There" were two of my favorites from their debut album. At least they have a solid second single in "Get Thru This". ;) I'm hoping that "Raining" is a new song since the previous song was called "Inside It's Raining" and Adam Gontier did not figure into that previous version. As it stands I think it's great that they left enough fantastic songs on the old album for it to still stand apart from this disc while being able to at least promote some of the old material that never got heard here in the States.
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Post by rockmaniac on Mar 3, 2011 18:59:18 GMT -5
I'll be pissed if the album doesn't make the Billboard 200.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 3, 2011 19:11:01 GMT -5
When does it come out in the states? I'd consider buying it in its first week if I like the other tracks. Btw rockmaniac, do you buy all the albums in the first week that you are disappointed about their first week sales?
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Post by pen on Mar 3, 2011 19:33:41 GMT -5
When does it come out in the states? March 22nd.
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Post by rockmaniac on Mar 3, 2011 19:44:41 GMT -5
When does it come out in the states? I'd consider buying it in its first week if I like the other tracks. Btw rockmaniac, do you buy all the albums in the first week that you are disappointed about their first week sales? i bought some
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 4, 2011 1:32:11 GMT -5
I'll be pissed if the album doesn't make the Billboard 200. Does it even have a chance?
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Post by pen on Mar 4, 2011 3:04:35 GMT -5
I'll be pissed if the album doesn't make the Billboard 200. Does it even have a chance? The way sales charts have been going lately, I'd say it's 50/50.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 4, 2011 4:14:58 GMT -5
The difference between debuting as high as, lest's say, #130 and not charting at all has gotta be a difference of what...not even a thousand copies?
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Post by pen on Mar 4, 2011 4:27:45 GMT -5
The difference between debuting as high as, lest's say, #130 and not charting at all has gotta be a difference of what...not even a thousand copies? The way the chart's going, I wouldn't be surprised if they debuted in the top 40.
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Post by Devin on Mar 4, 2011 8:06:55 GMT -5
I think they'll debut either in the Top 100 or miss the chart entirely.
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Post by lockebox on Mar 10, 2011 13:33:53 GMT -5
I'm hoping that "Raining" is a new song since the previous song was called "Inside It's Raining" and Adam Gontier did not figure into that previous version. I think a new version of "Inside It's Raining" with Adam Gontier would kick ass. Active eats up anything featuring Gontier, so that looks like a possible second single to me.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 10, 2011 13:39:25 GMT -5
As long as the record label is cool with it being released. Otherwise we could easily have another Apocalyptica - "Not Strong Enough" or Sevendust - "The Past" situation.
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Post by pen on Mar 10, 2011 18:20:44 GMT -5
I'm hoping that "Raining" is a new song since the previous song was called "Inside It's Raining" and Adam Gontier did not figure into that previous version. I think a new version of "Inside It's Raining" with Adam Gontier would kick ass. Active eats up anything featuring Gontier, so that looks like a possible second single to me. I heard a clip and it's definitely "Inside It's Raining". Those fucking fucks.
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Post by lockebox on Mar 17, 2011 12:35:55 GMT -5
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Mar 21, 2011 7:56:26 GMT -5
yeah, Die Trying is moving fast!
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Post by rockmaniac on Mar 22, 2011 8:44:58 GMT -5
yeah, Die Trying is moving fast! and it's the free single of the week on iTunes
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Post by lockebox on Mar 22, 2011 13:53:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'm diggin the new versions. Why couldn't they just make a brand new record?
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Post by pen on Mar 22, 2011 14:29:35 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'm diggin the new versions. Why couldn't they just make a brand new record? The self-titled never had an official release in the U.S., so I imagine they don't want those songs to go to waste.
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Post by rockmaniac on Mar 22, 2011 15:12:10 GMT -5
it's doing well in the iTunes album charts. I like their chances at making the Billboard 200
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 22, 2011 16:44:27 GMT -5
yeah, Die Trying is moving fast! and it's the free single of the week on iTunes I don't regularly visit the iTunes store, but I'm so glad they apparently count Sunday as the end of the week, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten the free mp3 of The Naked and Famous' "Young Blood."
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Mar 23, 2011 13:03:54 GMT -5
official music video
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Post by Devin on Mar 23, 2011 14:13:45 GMT -5
So he walked all that way to get wasted. lol. Never knew the lead singer looks like a Steven Tyler/Ozzy Osbourne hybrid
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Post by rockmaniac on Mar 23, 2011 20:46:17 GMT -5
predict the album sales.
My prediction: 5-10K
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 23, 2011 21:18:15 GMT -5
The way the band chose to depict themselves in that video made me lose some respect for them and this song. I like the song a decent amount, but if that's what you're persevering towards, the meaning of the songs kinda falls flat on me now. I guess I'm agreeing with what Devin pointed out, but to me that's kinda disappointing. I don't know about how anyone else feels. I will continue to enjoy the song, but I will treat it as an entity unto itself and separate it from the band that created it unless the music on the Vices and Virtues album somehow impresses me.
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Post by david112 on Mar 24, 2011 19:47:11 GMT -5
Yeah the Music video didn't do much for me either. I'm predicting 6K sales first week.
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Post by rockmaniac on Mar 30, 2011 15:16:43 GMT -5
YES! IT MADE THE BILLBOARD 200!!! it peaked at #113, 4,800 sold
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 30, 2011 17:09:18 GMT -5
I decided to listen to the album to see if it would redeem them from the horridness of this song's music video. I think "Die Trying" is easily my favorite song on the record. Nothing on the album is terrible, but the lyrics are pretty bad on a lot of songs.
There are a handful of Hot AC single crossover possibilities here such as "Sorry", "I Will Be There", and "Best I Can". I think their next active rock single should be "Completely" or "Raining" if label politics will allow Adam Gontier on the next radio single. Speaking of which, anyone else have trouble telling in some spots which singer is singing?
The album honestly feels like the middle ground between a Daughtry record and a Three Days Grace record. I think the lead singer has a really good voice, and the upper register vocal harmonies are awesome. I wish that they'd go a bit heavier on the heavier tracks and more epic/beautiful on the mellower ones, but unfortunately, these guys seem content to aim for the middle with everything for an all-in-all competent but underwhelming album.
2.5/5 3/5 only because of "Die Trying" and how strong of a vocalist Jonny Hetherington is.
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Post by rockmaniac on Mar 30, 2011 17:20:55 GMT -5
next single, IMO: Get Thru This or Raining
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Post by Devin on Mar 30, 2011 17:56:14 GMT -5
Nah "Get Thru This" is been-there/done-that from my perspective. I agree with Jamie, "Completely" or "Raining".
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