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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 17, 2011 23:06:44 GMT -5
I'm still rooting for "Thistle & Weeds" all out as their next single, but I'd settle for "White Blank Page" or "Dust Bowl Dance". I'd like "I Gave You All" too, but I doubt that's in the running.
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Post by Devin on Feb 17, 2011 23:12:45 GMT -5
I would say "White Blank Page" vs. "Thistle & Weeds". Whoever wins will be fine by me, but they could release "White Blank Page" as a pop crossover attempt. I think t could work. Then they could release "The Cave" to HAC to end the era.
They're recording a new album soon, so I wouldn't keep my hopes to high about future North American singles.
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Post by theundecider on Feb 18, 2011 1:59:37 GMT -5
^ sorry about that, you're right "To Darkness/Kripa" is not a single.
The UK only iTunes exclusive was officially released as a 4 song EP by Glassnote Records in the US in December.
I guess I thought it was a four song single (Ha!).
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Post by lockebox on Feb 21, 2011 16:46:56 GMT -5
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6 5 MUMFORD & SONS - The Cave 1338 1224 114 5.82
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Post by halo19 on Feb 21, 2011 17:11:49 GMT -5
I'm glad they have two consecutive Top 5 hits from the album. It is a modern-classic.
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Post by Devin on Feb 21, 2011 17:17:39 GMT -5
I find it excellent that this is doing so well. I said it would hault at #4, but I may eat my words up and see this potentially go #1! I do think this will have longevity like "Little Lion Man" and Phoenix's "Lisztomania".
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Post by halo19 on Feb 23, 2011 14:50:17 GMT -5
This week, Sigh No More was only blocked from #1 by a remix album by Justin Bieber.
While that may sound lousy for some, it's worth noting that the album pushed over 133k in the last week (and that it's been out in the U.S. for just over a year now). Amazon's sale was probably a big reason for it, as they didn't have a huge Grammys performance and also lost the BNA award. They've held well and will reach 1 million sales before the album cycle's over.
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Post by atlantaboy on Feb 23, 2011 15:22:51 GMT -5
I find it excellent that this is doing so well. I said it would hault at #4, but I may eat my words up and see this potentially go #1! I do think this will have longevity like "Little Lion Man" and Phoenix's "Lisztomania". Yeah, I don't see anything that could even block it from #1, unless Shake Me Down stays there forever - plus, The Cave was something like #5 on I-Tunes the day after the Grammy Performance
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Post by Devin on Feb 23, 2011 19:24:11 GMT -5
^ Rise Against and Foo Fighters also have great potential to reach #1 before this does.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 23, 2011 19:30:31 GMT -5
^Have you seen Rise Against's bullet?
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Post by Devin on Feb 23, 2011 19:34:30 GMT -5
It was negative before, but it's positive now and climbing back up. I'd say it's just a bump on the road. But if it's not, then Rise Against are destined to never have a #1 song.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 23, 2011 19:38:00 GMT -5
Well you clearly have allegiances to both, but M&S have already been there so I'm pulling for Rise Against more. I'm hoping "New Low" picks up some steam and hits #1 somewhere down the road too, but I'd be happy with top 5.
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Post by Devin on Feb 23, 2011 19:43:02 GMT -5
^ Yup, since you've noticed "Help Is on the Way" is #1 on my Personal Chart, while "The Cave" is #2. :)
But... Rise Against -> 2 weeks Mumford & Sons -> 24 weeks total ("Little Lion Man" w/ 16 and "The Cave" w/ 8)
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Post by halo19 on Feb 23, 2011 19:44:36 GMT -5
I'm hoping "New Low" picks up some steam and hits #1 somewhere down the road I'd love to see this happen. I was rooting for it a bit before it made the chart and I think it has a bigger identity than many of the other recent-year "hit" songs.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 23, 2011 19:49:29 GMT -5
^ Yup, since you've noticed "Help Is on the Way" is #1 on my Personal Chart, while "The Cave" is #2. :) But... Rise Against -> 2 weeks Mumford & Sons -> 24 weeks total ("Little Lion Man" w/ 16 and "The Cave" w/ 8) That, and your current username and avatar don't hurt either.
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Post by Devin on Feb 23, 2011 20:20:55 GMT -5
^ LOL
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Post by atlantaboy on Feb 23, 2011 20:24:44 GMT -5
^ Rise Against and Foo Fighters also have great potential to reach #1 before this does. If the Foo Fighters hit #1 before The Cave does, I'll wire you $1,000
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 23, 2011 20:32:22 GMT -5
You're going to likely regret that decision. The whole alternative panel plays the Foos. There are a few stations that'll probably hold out on M&S. It'll be close.
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Post by Devin on Feb 23, 2011 20:41:49 GMT -5
^ Rise Against and Foo Fighters also have great potential to reach #1 before this does. If the Foo Fighters hit #1 before The Cave does, I'll wire you $1,000 Fine enough! But if Mumford & Sons hit #1 first, I'm not sending you any money, because I'm really rooting for them, obviously. But as I said, if "The Cave" does reach #1, it will be only a week.
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Post by The Party Captain on Feb 24, 2011 17:14:15 GMT -5
This just jumped about 40 spots to #27 on the Hot 100. "Little Lion Man" just shot up to #45. Sigh No More is probably going to end up being one of those classic albums.
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Post by Devin on Feb 24, 2011 19:58:18 GMT -5
^ Hmm, I thought "Little Lion Man" went recurrent on the Hot 100 a while back, unless it re-entered in the Top 50 has a current due to great sale gains. If it never went recurrent in the first place, I think it could've went higher than it's previous peak of #61.
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Post by when the pawn... on Feb 25, 2011 11:11:03 GMT -5
This just jumped about 40 spots to #27 on the Hot 100. "Little Lion Man" just shot up to #45. Sigh No More is probably going to end up being one of those classic albums. It'll pass 1 mililon in sales this week! The Cave has been flirting with #2-3 on daily Real Time updates. As for FF, Ropes was #1 the first day, #5 the second day and is currently trending #8 for today. Perhaps it isn't a guaranteed 20-week #1 like The Pretender?
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 25, 2011 11:13:16 GMT -5
Well it's dropping off because there were stations that played it every single hour the first day it came out. How else can you explain a +18 on opening day with at most 1-2 overnight spins from Live 105?
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Post by when the pawn... on Feb 25, 2011 11:15:59 GMT -5
Right but havent FF and other core acts debuted top 3/#1 on Alternative? Trending in the lower half of the top 10 on day 3 means that Ropes wouldn't match the band's previous monsterous debuts. Still amazing, but potentially not the behemoth we expected.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 25, 2011 11:45:30 GMT -5
It's true, but those songs had a full week working for them. And they may have not trended #1 every day on real time updates of that week, but I wouldn't know because I don't think that I have access to that kind of stuff. *attempts to suppress bitterness and jealousy*
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Post by The Party Captain on Feb 26, 2011 13:56:21 GMT -5
They're going to be like The Script. "The Cave" is going to be huge. But, because pop radio and Hot AC take forever, they're not going to release another one here before the next album.
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Post by Devin on Feb 26, 2011 14:04:52 GMT -5
I think if "The Cave" peaks soon here, another single could be released here. But probably nothing more than that, as they're planning on releasing a new album in the summer/fall.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Feb 26, 2011 14:14:09 GMT -5
I'm not sure about that. If they're aiming to release another album this year, they might just stop with this song.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 26, 2011 18:03:44 GMT -5
They should release a third U.S. single I think. It's hard for a band to have an album ascend to classic status with only two hit songs. And there's no guarantee their next album is not going to suffer the sophomore slump, so they might as well strike with the current album and keep the momentum going, I say. We'll see how it plays out.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 28, 2011 11:57:09 GMT -5
Alright, THIS is a battle worth following now:
5 3 MUMFORD & SONS The Cave 1516 1338 178 6.462 4 4 RISE AGAINST Help Is On The Way 1514 1361 153 7.426 0 9 FOO FIGHTERS Rope 1087 0 1087 7.567
That Rise Against bullet picked up mighty fast. This is the type of race to #1 that they should have chart analysts and crossfire panel shows ESPN style devoted to even further dramatizing the radio charts haha. I think the first two bands' labels realized that they have to push their songs hard NOW because the #1 spot will likely be unattainable for the next couple months after that, and something with fresh blood will have a much better chance of dislodging the Foos at that point than they will.
My guess is that Cage the Elephant will come down a bit in airplay this next week and the #1 spot should be a race to 1750-1800 plays and perhaps holding that lead for the remainder of the week should it be a midweek #1. Wow would that suck for Rise Against to be a mid-week #1 and then not be able officially reach it, but that just seems like something that would happen.
One interesting scenario: even if the Foos reach #1 right after only one of these songs hits the top spot, it is very possible that "The Cave" could hit #1 on Mediabase alternative while Rise Against hits #1 on Billboard/BDS Alternative, giving them each one official week at the top of an industry-standard alternative chart before the Foos hog both all to themselves.
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