switch
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Post by switch on Jul 10, 2011 7:12:24 GMT -5
I have no problem with her having the songs and such but uploading them so anyone and everyone can download them is bad, because then blogs get a hold of it and its just down hill from there. Oh I see...so it's not okay for others to upload songs so that you can "click the download button". Makes total sense. Carry on.
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Post by clarksodi on Jul 10, 2011 7:17:43 GMT -5
^ You don't get it. Kelly has said many times she doesn't want any fans listening to her unfinished material. You are disrespecting Kelly the minute you listen to it, not the minute you share it with the world. In any case, you have listened to these songs in an illegal manner, regardless of the channel in which they were provided to you. The entire sharing ring is illegal, and I'm sure if someone reported you, an investigation would reveal you have distributed the music in some way, to one person or the world.
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Post by clarksodi on Jul 10, 2011 7:35:00 GMT -5
^ How many times can you say "end of discussion" and still continue the discussion? You obtained the songs in some way. Therefore, you are as guilty as the rest for partaking in the sharing, whether you provided them to anyone else or not. Clearly, stopping this person will not stop the leaks. It's cute you believe otherwise. And go ahead and ignore how disrespectful you are being to your "favorite" artist by listening to songs she hasn't finished or intended for you to listen to.
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Post by KelesbianEricka on Jul 10, 2011 7:47:08 GMT -5
It really ain't dis serious... Leaks are gonna happen. The damage is done the moment the leaked track is uploaded for the entire world to download. It will spread like wildfire and you can't put it out. These things happen. You either gonna download it, listen to it, report it, whatever. You can't change the fact that it has leaked, people are listening to it, downloading it, whatever. Whats done is done. It can't be changed. Case closed.
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kylecburke
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Post by kylecburke on Jul 10, 2011 8:10:12 GMT -5
If you listened to the leak you are as much of a criminal as the leaker is. Shame on you! Now anyone wanna pm me the leaks? well not truee..the person who leaks them as intention of leaking them for a reason. Once its out there curiosity occurs. If I found a cd of leaked KC music...sure Id listen..but wouldnt post it all over the internet. I've heard the leaks but can't seem to get mp3 versions of it BOO!
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Post by TellMeALie on Jul 10, 2011 8:29:20 GMT -5
If you listened to the leak you are as much of a criminal as the leaker is. Shame on you! Now anyone wanna pm me the leaks? well not truee..the person who leaks them as intention of leaking them for a reason. Once its out there curiosity occurs. If I found a cd of leaked KC music...sure Id listen..but wouldnt post it all over the internet. I've heard the leaks but can't seem to get mp3 versions of it BOO! Thank you, that was my point I was trying to make
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Post by kylecburke on Jul 10, 2011 8:35:22 GMT -5
what does kill, Let me down are pure Kelly C tracks!! Love the kick ass attitude. Not a fan of D+D. Thats all ive heard. Wonder when some news will start
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Post by CriminallySmooth on Jul 10, 2011 8:40:48 GMT -5
:o Kelly's voice sounds so much more developed and confident. I love waking up to leaks
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Post by kmbgs on Jul 10, 2011 9:23:43 GMT -5
#Overleaks
Can we just get a first single announcement? Something tells me it will be something we haven't heard anything about and will be a song no one has heard about yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2011 9:49:12 GMT -5
There are not enough x faces in the world to describe what a mess this is.
There is a reason Kelly doesn't want people to hear her unfinished stuff - because even though it's not finished, often a demo is structured enough that people *think* they have an idea where the song is going to land when it is done, so they make premature judgments. And if they think this half-formed, poorly mixed demo is crap, they unjustly write the song off as no good before it even has a chance to prove itself. I can't imagine how frustrating that must feel. And even as I remind myself of this, I find myself measuring these songs as if these are the final results going on the album.
With that said, all of the demos have potential. DDY's hook is a little reminiscent of that of DLMSY, but also definitely reminds me of Thankful as well with the vocals. IFY feels like a tempered How I Feel with weaker lyrics...my least favorite of the demos. I'm really surprised if this is the Darkchild song, LMD sounds more like it would be by him. WDKY is going to give birth to 1,000 awesome dance remixes. LMD and DDY sound the closest to being finished, thus it's probably not a coincidence that I find that these two are the strongest of the leaks. LMD is definitely the strongest track, but I was especially surprised to find that I liked DDY because I was sure I would be meh to it.
Do we have confirmation that Kelly did (or didn't) co-write TMAL? Because if she didn't that means we haven't heard any of the material Kelly co-wrote (not counting the first big leak when her computer was hacked). There's something to that I think....seems like she at least learned a security lesson from last year's fiasco, but unfortunately RCA wasn't paying attention at all.
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Post by out of reach on Jul 10, 2011 9:55:48 GMT -5
I think they need to just stop pussy footing around and release the material already. The album is done, the majority of big name artists have passed, I don't know what they are waiting for. Releasing the material for next year's Grammy's? Just let the chips fall where they are for goodness sake.
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Post by beelzebub666 on Jul 10, 2011 10:29:38 GMT -5
I think it would be much worse to release the CD early without the proper promotional push than to rush release because of leaks.
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Post by Air Jordin on Jul 10, 2011 10:44:00 GMT -5
What Doesn't Kill You is fucking amazing! I think it's 100x better than Let Me Down.
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Post by Hook on Jul 10, 2011 10:59:53 GMT -5
^ Do you not feel guilty enjoying an illegally downloaded song and then reporting the person who facilitated your download? It's like buying drugs and then reporting your dealer. Very conflicting behavior. Thank you! This whole concept among certain Kelly stans really annoys me. They get the songs for themselves and happily listen to and enjoy them, but then they freak out if anyone else gets them and want to report them to the RIAA. WTF, you're not entitled to hear unreleased Kelly music any more than anyone else. The songs are out there, you don't have to spread them, but you also don't have to get up on your high horse and act like others shouldn't hear them even when you do. It's that whole "I've got mine so screw you" attitude. Yes it sucks that the songs leaked, but they're out there. And the person to blame is whoever in either the label or Kelly's camp that gave them out in the first place.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Jul 10, 2011 11:03:28 GMT -5
I think it would be much worse to release the CD early without the proper promotional push than to rush release because of leaks. For sure. I want them to release this when they're ready. I would not care one bit if the album is filled with tons of leaked songs. I want nearly every one of these latest leaks on the album, with the exception being D+D. She's recorded at least 25 songs since the demo leak last year, there's plenty more material for her to use should they decide to make any changes.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Jul 10, 2011 11:06:52 GMT -5
The only bad thing is that all of those leaked songs weren't like the "fillers." Which is why RCA now has a problem. IDK what they should do now. Prolly go back into the studio and do a few more tracks, unfortunetly. We want this album to be a seller, and with their 1st single (Let Me Down), and second single (I FOrgive You), potentially, leaking, The War is Over is about the only one left, aside from the demo for Scared of the Dark. On a plus side, these songs are AWESOME!!!!!!! I Forgive You is really good. What Doesn't Kill You pleasantly surprised me, especially after hearing the deomo! But I do think this gonna push us back into the black friday territory b4 we actually get this damn album.
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Post by themagic on Jul 10, 2011 11:19:08 GMT -5
I think they might release the album in August now instead. We will probably only get one single before album comes out.
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Post by kellyclarkstan on Jul 10, 2011 11:34:21 GMT -5
FYI, this album isn't getting pushed back because of this. RCA has known these songs were out there since April. They aren't in finished or HQ form and will have little effect on overall sales.
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Post by insanoshano08 on Jul 10, 2011 11:43:25 GMT -5
Once again, I think this is going to end up being better for Kelly and the album as dumb as that sounds..these songs are all amazing and are creating buzz for this album like crazy.
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Post by themagic on Jul 10, 2011 11:43:33 GMT -5
FYI, this album isn't getting pushed back because of this. RCA has known these songs were out there since April. They aren't in finished or HQ form and will have little effect on overall sales. It seems very rare that an album gets pushed back due to leaks anyways. Has anyone (Artist, Label etc) ever even said that they pushed back an album due to leaks?
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Post by mrossp24 on Jul 10, 2011 11:48:37 GMT -5
Dang, what news to wake up to. Is this version of TMAL that leaked the same that leaked before?
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Post by clarksonnumber1 on Jul 10, 2011 11:52:15 GMT -5
I have to feel bad for Kelly. I don't usually listen to leaks but a few songs are getting great reviews from what I can tell. It is tempting.
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Post by Illusions on Jul 10, 2011 11:52:16 GMT -5
I don't think TMAL leaked again.
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Post by Hook on Jul 10, 2011 12:06:31 GMT -5
Has anyone (Artist, Label etc) ever even said that they pushed back an album due to leaks? Most artists don't seem to have the same problem with leaks that Kelly does. Honestly, how many artists have song after song leak before there's ever even a first single or album announcement? Yes, there's a song here or there, but Kelly's got entire albums worth of songs leaking.
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Post by picklerclarkson on Jul 10, 2011 12:08:56 GMT -5
Wow these songs are amazing! And they all feel like Kelly Clarkson songs something AIEW was lacking. These songs also have epic bridges something else that album was missing. IFY- So catchy and great lyrics. The bridge is epic. I think this would be the perfect first single. Probably my favorite track. WDKY- Very different for Kelly. It sounds the most generic but her voice elevates the track. I do enjoy the dance/rock production. This should be a single maybe the first single. Dumb- I love the vibe of this, yeah the lyrics aren't the best but I don't think they were meant to be. I wouldn't mind this being a single actually LMD- The sexy verses, huge chorus and killer bridge. Definitely shows her vocals the best. TMAL- Probably my least favorite of the leaks but I still love it.
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Post by slimjim on Jul 10, 2011 12:11:05 GMT -5
Once again, I think this is going to end up being better for Kelly and the album as dumb as that sounds..these songs are all amazing and are creating buzz for this album like crazy. I agree...These leaks are everywhere and are reminding people that Kelly Clarkson is still making music...in a year that has been dominated by Britney, Gaga, Beyonce and Adele a lil bit buzz isn't going to hurt her... I think Kelly should become a spokesperson for an anti-piracy campaign or something...lol
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Post by bigb0882 on Jul 10, 2011 12:16:36 GMT -5
I really like all the leaked songs minus D+D=U That one is awful. It sounds like someone put this song in a drawer in 1996 and just found it and decided to have Kelly record it without making ANY changes to it. The lyrics speak for themselves. If this is ever a single then the era is over, immediately. Way too dated and way too cheesy.
WDKY is awesome. Not sure if it is the most radio friendly song but this could snag her a #1 on the dance charts with a little remixing. No doubt about it.
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Post by KelesbianEricka on Jul 10, 2011 12:16:48 GMT -5
I think Kelly should become a spokesperson for an anti-piracy campaign or something...lol ^ This
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Post by franklin on Jul 10, 2011 12:21:39 GMT -5
This is really not good, iCan't believe this is really happening rn. All the tracks are fire though.
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Post by Ace on Jul 10, 2011 12:25:16 GMT -5
Jesus, again?! God, I feel so bad for Kelly. I can't think of any other time when this has happened so many times.
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