Enigma.
Diamond Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 13,957
|
Post by Enigma. on Oct 21, 2010 5:54:20 GMT -5
"J/RMG’s Rod Stewart returns with Volume V of his Great American Songbook series, Fly Me to the Moon, slated for 60-65k in sales, the same estimate as the critically acclaimed Elton John/Leon Russell album on Decca, The Union, which just garnered a rare five-star review in Rolling Stone."
Great for both!
|
|
grouper6
2x Platinum Member
Joined: August 2009
Posts: 2,185
|
Post by grouper6 on Oct 21, 2010 6:24:40 GMT -5
Sugarland and Kings of Leon sales are in line with sales being down ~15% from last year. However, I would have expected KOL to at least top out at 250k.
Miley Cyrus seems to be suffering a backlash from her 'raunchy' new image. Clearly this is spilling over to Hannah Montana. I doubt her album scans gold and these openning #s for HM soundtrack is anemic at best.
Shakira is currently touring in the US and is on the promotional trail. Her tour seems to be doing well so I'm disappointed with her 40k estimate. However, her last studio album barely sold tin so.....
|
|
HolidayGuy
Diamond Member
Joined: December 2003
Posts: 33,900
|
Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 21, 2010 8:25:09 GMT -5
Shakira did perform on "Dancing with the Stars" this week- appearing on the country's top show is pretty good promo, no? Any other notable performances this week?
|
|
starr
4x Platinum Member
Joined: December 2008
Posts: 4,814
|
Post by starr on Oct 21, 2010 15:04:11 GMT -5
Shakira is currently touring in the US and is on the promotional trail. Her tour seems to be doing well so I'm disappointed with her 40k estimate. However, her last studio album barely sold tin so..... Shakira's first week album sales for "She Wolf"
|
|
Youknowit
Gold Member
Joined: February 2010
Posts: 876
|
Post by Youknowit on Oct 21, 2010 15:06:04 GMT -5
Shakira did perform on "Dancing with the Stars" this week- appearing on the country's top show is pretty good promo, no? Any other notable performances this week? She performed on there Tuesday night so I wouldn't take that into account of the 40-45k estimation.
|
|
Honeymoon
3x Platinum Member
Joined: November 2006
Posts: 3,256
|
Post by Honeymoon on Oct 21, 2010 19:01:28 GMT -5
When the chart is final next week, four of the last five chart toppers—and all of the #1 debuts in that period—will have been Country acts. Sugarland joins Toby Keith, Kenny Chesney and Zac Brown Band as Incredible Machine bows with what will be the year's ninth largest debut. Also of note, Sony Music may have as many as eight titles in next week's Top 15. Here's how it looks headed into the weekend:
*Sugarland (Mercury Nashville) 195-205k *Kings of Leon (RCA/RMG) 175-185k *Rod Stewart (J/RMG) 70-75k Lil Wayne (Cash Money/Universal Motown) 65-70k *Elton John/Leon Russell (Decca) 60-65k *Glee Cast: Rocky Horror Glee Show (Columbia) 50-55k *Shakira (Epic) 40-45k Eminem (Shady/Aftermath/Interscope) 40-45k Darius Rucker (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 40-45k *Third Day (Provident) 30-35k Zac Brown Band (Atlantic) 25-30k Kenny Chesney (BNA/Sony Music Nashville) 25-30k The Band Perry (Universal Republic Nashville) 25-30k Big Time Rush (Nickelodeon/Columbia) 22-25k *Hannah Montana Forever (Walt Disney) 22-25k *Bob Dylan (Sony Legacy/Columbia) 22-25k *Debuts (10/21p)
|
|
Honeymoon
3x Platinum Member
Joined: November 2006
Posts: 3,256
|
Post by Honeymoon on Oct 21, 2010 19:02:03 GMT -5
I'd love to see both Sugarland and Kings of Leon hit the 200k mark. I am about to buy KOL album right now
|
|
carrieidol1
Diamond Member
Joined: August 2007
Posts: 12,669
|
Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 21, 2010 19:18:52 GMT -5
That's a Country packed top 20ish...
|
|
|
Post by livelikedying111 on Oct 21, 2010 19:24:24 GMT -5
Great stabilty for weezy, wish Eminem's sales pick up to be massive again, but nothing to complain about!
|
|
|
Post by slicknickshady on Oct 21, 2010 19:24:29 GMT -5
Eminem (Shady/Aftermath/Interscope) 40-45k
|
|
|
Post by Push The Button on Oct 21, 2010 20:05:18 GMT -5
Eminem (Shady/Aftermath/Interscope) 40-45k Thanks, I didn't see it posted two spots up. Anyway, the Union is absolutely fantastic.
|
|
Choco
Diamond Member
james dean daydream
Joined: February 2009
Posts: 27,761
My Charts
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by Choco on Oct 21, 2010 20:28:14 GMT -5
Hannah's album sales dropped with each release so while I think that her new image helped, I don't think that's the main reason why her sales are so awful this time.
|
|
lugus15
Gold Member
Joined: April 2009
Posts: 790
|
Post by lugus15 on Oct 21, 2010 23:20:40 GMT -5
Just as last year the Jonas Brothers fad ended, and Hannah Montana/Miley's fad is ending this year, I think that in the near future, Bieber's fad will end.
|
|
Enigma.
Diamond Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 13,957
|
Post by Enigma. on Oct 22, 2010 4:23:05 GMT -5
Bieber has nothing to do with Disney. He's an artist with a big support by the industry (Usher, Atlantic label etc) and he has more power to do what he wants. I wouldn't compare him to those disney-related cash machines
|
|
|
Post by kt1990 on Oct 22, 2010 5:12:51 GMT -5
Bieber has nothing to do with Disney. He's an artist with a big support by the industry (Usher, Atlantic label etc) and he has more power to do what he wants. I wouldn't compare him to those disney-related cash machines lolwut? he's still a manufactured puppet. He's really no different from the Disney tween idols at all...He's one of the biggest cash machines right now, lmao.
|
|
HolidayGuy
Diamond Member
Joined: December 2003
Posts: 33,900
|
Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 22, 2010 8:41:15 GMT -5
Should be noted that the last Hannah Montana soundtrack reached its peak position after debuting. Not that that will happen with this release...
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2010 13:50:15 GMT -5
Hmm, I don't think the Bieber fad won't end unitl his voice matures, kind of like how Hanson faded into obscurity.
|
|
asg4
Platinum Member
Joined: October 2006
Posts: 1,102
|
Post by asg4 on Oct 23, 2010 8:11:44 GMT -5
Bieber has nothing to do with Disney. He's an artist with a big support by the industry (Usher, Atlantic label etc) and he has more power to do what he wants. I wouldn't compare him to those disney-related cash machines lolwut? he's still a manufactured puppet. He's really no different from the Disney tween idols at all...He's one of the biggest cash machines right now, lmao. The big question is who isnt a manufactured puppet maybe only kanye; timberland arent
|
|
Choco
Diamond Member
james dean daydream
Joined: February 2009
Posts: 27,761
My Charts
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by Choco on Oct 23, 2010 12:24:36 GMT -5
lolwut? he's still a manufactured puppet. He's really no different from the Disney tween idols at all...He's one of the biggest cash machines right now, lmao. The big question is who isnt a manufactured puppet maybe only kanye; timberland arent To name a few: Eminem, GaGa, Jay-Z, Beyoncé, Nelly Furtado, Pink... they all in my opinion seem to do what they want with their music.
|
|
chopped89
Gold Member
Mid_East_King
Joined: October 2009
Posts: 776
|
Post by chopped89 on Oct 23, 2010 12:31:37 GMT -5
The big question is who isnt a manufactured puppet maybe only kanye; timberland arent To name a few: Eminem, GaGa, Jay-Z, Beyoncé, Nelly Furtado, Pink... they all in my opinion seem to do what they want with their music. Agreed, Jay didn't give a shit when people said that he went pop with BP3. So did Eminem and others! P.S in an interview with Eminem, he said that his label only gives him a call when he goes absent for a while, other than that his music is his job nobody jumps into his business!
|
|
grandelf
Gold Member
Joined: August 2010
Posts: 818
|
Post by grandelf on Oct 24, 2010 4:14:49 GMT -5
The big question is who isnt a manufactured puppet maybe only kanye; timberland arent To name a few: Eminem, GaGa, Jay-Z, Beyoncé, Nelly Furtado, Pink... they all in my opinion seem to do what they want with their music. How so? Not commenting on the rappers, but those ladies are under major labels and they have to sell records. Plus it's not like they are crafting their music by themselves. Just because they can write a song, it does not equal they can do "anything with their music". A better example would be Jewel or Alanis Morissette, who are independent now and still continue making music to small fanbases.
|
|
HolidayGuy
Diamond Member
Joined: December 2003
Posts: 33,900
|
Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 24, 2010 9:37:41 GMT -5
^Pink may have started as a "puppet"- Destiny's Child lite, if you will- but she changed that with the second album. Just because an act is on a major label and is commercially successful doesn't mean they're not doing the music they want to do. One of the best examples is Madonna- she's always done the music she wanted to do- right from the start she was in control of her career, even though she was on a major label. The label trusted her instincts. And, few have merged art and commerce better. She may be an exception, but it still shows it's possible.
The "Glee" Rocky Horror Picture EP may have had a shot at No. 1 this coming week, if Ms. Swift's album was not being released.
|
|
midan1
Charting
Joined: March 2007
Posts: 47
|
Post by midan1 on Oct 24, 2010 12:51:28 GMT -5
Do the iTunes sales count too? I mean, Shakira is #4 there and Kings Of Leon have #1 and #3, making Shakira #3 of best selling Albums on iTunes. Yet she debutes only with 40k ??
It sucks that She Wolf sold 100% more than Sale El Sol will and didn't make Top 10.
And other thing. Madonna's Celebration didn't sell 200k in US, however it's Gold. And Shakira's She Wolf sold over 300k and is nothing... Isn't it unfair?
Same to Blackout by Britney Spears.
|
|
Night Senses
4x Platinum Member
Processing…
Joined: November 2004
Posts: 4,624
|
Post by Night Senses on Oct 24, 2010 16:00:19 GMT -5
^ But "Celebration" was also released as a 2-CD. 250K shipped of a double CD equates to 500K; hence, the gold certification.
It's up to the label (and sometimes the artist, if they care enough) to make sure albums are certified. It's not a favortism thing. I personally think labels should be BOUND to certifying. It should be a requirement in the industry, especially at a time when albums aren't even selling like they used to. Artists deserve credit for managing whatever they can pull off.
|
|
asg4
Platinum Member
Joined: October 2006
Posts: 1,102
|
Post by asg4 on Oct 25, 2010 8:32:23 GMT -5
^Pink may have started as a "puppet"- Destiny's Child lite, if you will- but she changed that with the second album. Just because an act is on a major label and is commercially successful doesn't mean they're not doing the music they want to do. One of the best examples is Madonna- she's always done the music she wanted to do- right from the start she was in control of her career, even though she was on a major label. The label trusted her instincts. And, few have merged art and commerce better. She may be an exception, but it still shows it's possible. The "Glee" Rocky Horror Picture EP may have had a shot at No. 1 this coming week, if Ms. Swift's album was not being released. Madonna isnt a puppet but is one of the most manufactured out there. Madonna's is high on marketing very very low on talent. She came out of the 80s where most of the artist were deeply involved in their music. So she was perhaps the lowest affiliated to her music to the same level as perhaps whitney. Madonna has always been crafty she slept with all the industry big wigs to get where she got.
|
|
Brazilian Guy
2x Platinum Member
no, not THAT Brazilian Guy
Joined: December 2006
Posts: 2,996
|
Post by Brazilian Guy on Oct 25, 2010 9:41:49 GMT -5
LOL? Yeah... Madonna is only Madonna cause she slept her way to the top. Never mind her music, y`all.
|
|
|
Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 25, 2010 9:52:17 GMT -5
Do the iTunes sales count too? I mean, Shakira is #4 there and Kings Of Leon have #1 and #3, making Shakira #3 of best selling Albums on iTunes. Yet she debutes only with 40k ?? It sucks that She Wolf sold 100% more than Sale El Sol will and didn't make Top 10. And other thing. Madonna's Celebration didn't sell 200k in US, however it's Gold. And Shakira's She Wolf sold over 300k and is nothing... Isn't it unfair? Same to Blackout by Britney Spears. SoundScan counts iTunes sales. For the 100th time... It's up to the label to apply for an RIAA certification. Jive hasn't applied to the the RIAA for the Blackout album.
|
|
|
Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 25, 2010 9:54:27 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 25, 2010 9:57:23 GMT -5
ONE year ago:
2 1 TWILIGHT SAGA: NEW MOON CHOP SHOP/ATLANTIC 150,636 +31% SOUNDTRACK -- 2 TIM MCGRAW CURB 140,358 -- SOUTHERN VOICE 1 3 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 92,141 -51% CRAZY LOVE 3 4 JAY-Z ROC NATION/ATLANTIC 41,955 -24% BLUEPRINT 3 6 5 MILEY CYRUS HOLLYWOOD 38,434 -4% TIME OF OUR LIVES 5 6 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 34,763 -15% E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES) 8 7 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 33,693 +2% FEARLESS 21 8 OWL CITY UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 28,710 +34% OCEAN EYES 4 9 BARBRA STREISAND COLUMBIA 26,567 -47% LOVE IS THE ANSWER -- 10 JOSS STONE VIRGIN 26,540 -- COLOUR ME FREE
|
|
HolidayGuy
Diamond Member
Joined: December 2003
Posts: 33,900
|
Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 25, 2010 12:30:35 GMT -5
asg, showing incredible insight, as always. lol Yes, she must be the most revered and highly regarded "no talent" ever. Yeah, it's the "no talent" that makes her and her music/videos, etc. as revered as they are. Yep, that be it. And who is YOUR favorite act again? :And how highly regarded is she again? Hopefully Sugarland's sales end up at the high end of the projection.
|
|