Monitored Stations

[Lozzy]

I stream WNKI-FM for AT40, and I really love their playlist. It fits very well with the other stations on the CHR panel. This is a sample hour;
11/06/10 9:59 MAYA, EDWARD Stereo Love Ultra
11/06/10 10:03 FLO RIDA Club Can't Handle Me f/DGuetta Poe Boy/Atlantic
11/06/10 10:06 PERRY, KATY Firework Capitol
11/06/10 10:10 TIMBERLAKE, JUSTIN My Love f/T.I. Jive/Zomba
11/06/10 10:15 MAROON 5 Give A Little More A&M/Octone/Interscope
11/06/10 10:23 PINK Raise Your Glass LaFace/JLG
11/06/10 10:27 KE$HA Take It Off Kemosabe/RCA/RMG
11/06/10 10:30 AKON Angel SRC/Universal Motown
11/06/10 10:40 POSNER, MIKE Please Don't Go J/RMG
11/06/10 10:43 PERRY, KATY Waking Up In Vegas Capitol
11/06/10 10:47 SONGZ, TREY Bottoms Up f/Nicki Minaj Songbook/Atlantic
11/06/10 10:50 B.O.B Airplanes f/Hayley Williams Rebel Rock/GH/Atlantic
11/06/10 10:54 NEON TREES Animal Mercury/IDJMG
11/06/10 10:57 EMINEM No Love f/Lil'Wayne Shady/After/Interscope

My question is, how would this station get onto the Mediabase-monitored panel? Does Mediabase choose which stations to monitor, or do the stations apply, or something else? Does anyone have any idea on this?

[atlantaboy]

I'm not positive about all this, but these are some reasons I know that stations are not monitored...

(1)The station is in a market that's too small
(2)The station has extremely low ratings
(3)The station's playlist doesn't "fit in" with the other stations on the format
(4)The station plays too few currents
(5)The station is brand new

I'm assuming Mediabase needs to have the station install some sort of monitoring device, but not sure whether they need to apply for it or whether Mediabase comes to them...

[Lozzy]

I suppose the Corning/Elmira, NY market is small, but Mediabase has small-market stations, don't they? I don't know about their ratings. If you look at their playlist, it fits in much better than a lot of those Rhythmic-leaning stations do, the station has been active for a long time and plays too many currents.

Wouldn't the station want to be monitored by Mediabase, if it's up to the station itself?

[atlantaboy]

Nov 6, 2010 23:52:52 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

I suppose the Corning/Elmira, NY market is small, but Mediabase has small-market stations, don't they? I don't know about their ratings. If you look at their playlist, it fits in much better than a lot of those Rhythmic-leaning stations do, the station has been active for a long time and plays too many currents.

Wouldn't the station want to be monitored by Mediabase, if it's up to the station itself?

Yeah I just checked allaccess.com, and Elmira is market #227, and Mediabase only monitors the Top 200 markets (or at least only publishes playlists for those stations)

WNKI is the #1 station in Elmira though (it's got a 12.3 rating, which is insane!)

[EvanJ]

A few times a year including Thanksgiving I go to relatives where I can get WNKI. www.stationratings.com actually calls WNKI a Hot AC station although that sample hour is CHR-Pop. wink106.com/page.php?page_id=33607 has the top songs on WNKI and www.94rockfm.com/page.php?page_id=18760 has the top songs in WLVY which competes with WNKI.

[Lozzy]

Nov 7, 2010 9:41:26 GMT -5 atlantaboy said:

Nov 6, 2010 23:52:52 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

I suppose the Corning/Elmira, NY market is small, but Mediabase has small-market stations, don't they? I don't know about their ratings. If you look at their playlist, it fits in much better than a lot of those Rhythmic-leaning stations do, the station has been active for a long time and plays too many currents.

Wouldn't the station want to be monitored by Mediabase, if it's up to the station itself?

Yeah I just checked allaccess.com, and Elmira is market #227, and Mediabase only monitors the Top 200 markets (or at least only publishes playlists for those stations)

WNKI is the #1 station in Elmira though (it's got a 12.3 rating, which is insane!)

#227, is that bad, good or average? 12.3 sounds great, whatever it means, if it gets very high ratings, does that mean Mediabase might start monitoring it in the future?

Nov 7, 2010 21:29:34 GMT -5 EvanJ said:

A few times a year including Thanksgiving I go to relatives where I can get WNKI. www.stationratings.com actually calls WNKI a Hot AC station although that sample hour is CHR-Pop. wink106.com/page.php?page_id=33607 has the top songs on WNKI and www.94rockfm.com/page.php?page_id=18760 has the top songs in WLVY which competes with WNKI.

Hot AC? That's stupid. The station is definitely a CHR/Pop, and a good one, not a Rhythmic CHR/Pop station. Thanks for the stationratings.com link, haven't seen that before.

The two reasons that I want WNKI to be monitored are so that it can count/influence the chart, and so that I'd be able to save the full daily playlists without listening. While it's fun, it gets annoying to be looking at the clock and writing down every time a new song starts.

[Lozzy]

I've got some more sample time of WNKI - eight and a half hours of writing down songs and times to be precise. :)

Date Time(EST) Artist Title Label
11/07/10 11:54 MAYA, EDWARD Stereo Love Ultra
11/07/10 11:57 IGLESIAS, ENRIQUE I Like It f/Pitbull Universal Republic
11/08/10 0:00 IYAZ Replay Beluga Heights/Reprise
11/08/10 0:03 SWIFT, TAYLOR Mine Big Machine
11/08/10 0:07 PERRY, KATY Teenage Dream Capitol
11/08/10 0:11 TRAIN If It's Love Columbia
11/08/10 0:15 FAR EAST MOVEMENT Like A G6 f/Cataracs & Dev Cherrytree/Interscope
11/08/10 0:18 LADY GAGA Alejandro Interscope
11/08/10 0:22 AKON Angel SRC/Universal Motown
11/08/10 0:27 NELLY Just A Dream Derrty/Universal Motown
11/08/10 0:31 PINK Sober LaFace/JLG
11/08/10 0:36 EMINEM No Love f/Lil'Wayne Shady/After/Interscope
11/08/10 0:40 FERGIE Big Girls Don't Cry (Personal) Will.I.Am/A&M/Interscope
11/08/10 0:45 MCCARTNEY, JESSE Shake Hollywood
11/08/10 0:48 KE$HA Your Love Is My Drug Kemosabe/RCA/RMG
11/08/10 0:51 MARS, BRUNO Just The Way You Are Elektra/Atlantic
11/08/10 0:55 YOLANDA BE COOL & DCUP We No Speak Americano Ultra
11/08/10 0:58 USHER F/PITBULL DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love LaFace/JLG
11/08/10 1:01 CRUZ, TAIO Dynamite Mercury/IDJMG
11/08/10 1:05 DAUGHTRY September RCA/RMG
11/08/10 1:09 RUDOLF, KEVIN Let It Rock f/Lil Wayne CM/Universal Republic
11/08/10 1:12 WILLOW Whip My Hair Roc Nation/Columbia
11/08/10 1:16 RIHANNA Only Girl (In The World) Def Jam/IDJMG
11/08/10 1:19 TIMBERLAKE, JUSTIN What Goes Around Comes Around Jive/Zomba
11/08/10 1:24 SICK PUPPIES Maybe RMR/Virgin/Capitol
11/08/10 1:28 LA ROUX Bulletproof Cherrytree/Interscope
11/08/10 1:31 FLO RIDA Club Can't Handle Me f/DGuetta Poe Boy/Atlantic
11/08/10 1:35 DERULO, JASON What If Beluga Hts/Warner Bros.
11/08/10 1:39 B.O.B Airplanes f/Hayley Williams Rebel Rock/GH/Atlantic
11/08/10 1:42 PINK Raise Your Glass LaFace/JLG
11/08/10 1:45 WILL.I.AM & NICKI MINAJ Check It Out will.i.am/Interscope
11/08/10 1:49 LADY GAGA Paparazzi Interscope
11/08/10 1:52 CRUZ, TAIO Dirty Picture f/Ke$ha Mercury/IDJMG
11/08/10 1:56 PUFF DADDY/EVANS/112 I'll Be Missing You Bad Boy
11/08/10 2:00 POSNER, MIKE Please Don't Go J/RMG
11/08/10 2:03 TIMBALAND Carry Out f/Justin Timberlake Mosley/Interscope
11/08/10 2:07 PERRY, KATY Firework Capitol
11/08/10 2:11 EMINEM Love The Way You Lie f/Rihanna Shady/After/Interscope
11/08/10 2:15 MARS, BRUNO Grenade Elektra/Atlantic
11/08/10 2:19 NEON TREES Animal Mercury/IDJMG
11/08/10 2:22 TRAIN Hey, Soul Sister BNA/Columbia
11/08/10 2:25 GUETTA, DAVID Memories f/Kid Cudi Astralwerks/Capitol
11/08/10 2:29 IGLESIAS, ENRIQUE I Like It f/Pitbull Universal Republic
11/08/10 2:33 PINK So What LaFace/JLG
11/08/10 2:36 RIHANNA What's My Name? f/Drake Def Jam/IDJMG
11/08/10 2:41 MRAZ, JASON I'm Yours Atlantic/RRP
11/08/10 2:44 SONGZ, TREY Bottoms Up f/Nicki Minaj Songbook/Atlantic
11/08/10 2:48 DERULO, JASON Ridin' Solo Beluga Hts/Warner Bros.
11/08/10 2:51 FAR EAST MOVEMENT Like A G6 f/Cataracs & Dev Cherrytree/Interscope
11/08/10 2:55 AKON Angel SRC/Universal Motown
11/08/10 2:58 CLARKSON, KELLY Since U Been Gone RCA/RMG
11/08/10 3:02 NELLY Just A Dream Derrty/Universal Motown
11/08/10 3:06 BLACK EYED PEAS I Gotta Feeling Interscope
11/08/10 3:10 READY SET Love Like Woe Reprise
11/08/10 3:13 PERRY, KATY Hot N Cold Capitol
11/08/10 3:16 YOLANDA BE COOL & DCUP We No Speak Americano Ultra
11/08/10 3:19 MARS, BRUNO Just The Way You Are Elektra/Atlantic
11/08/10 3:23 RIHANNA Don't Stop The Music SRP/Def Jam/IDJMG
11/08/10 3:28 MAROON 5 Give A Little More A&M/Octone/Interscope
11/08/10 3:30 KE$HA Take It Off Kemosabe/RCA/RMG
11/08/10 3:34 USHER F/PITBULL DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love LaFace/JLG
11/08/10 3:38 WILLOW Whip My Hair Roc Nation/Columbia
11/08/10 3:42 CRUZ, TAIO Break Your Heart f/Ludacris Mercury/IDJMG
11/08/10 3:45 RIHANNA Only Girl (In The World) Def Jam/IDJMG
11/08/10 3:49 SWIFT, TAYLOR Mine Big Machine
11/08/10 3:52 SEAN, JAY Down f/Lil Wayne Cash Money/Uni Republic
11/08/10 3:56 DERULO, JASON What If Beluga Hts/Warner Bros.
11/08/10 3:59 LEWIS, LEONA Bleeding Love SYCO/J/RMG
11/08/10 4:03 FLO RIDA Club Can't Handle Me f/DGuetta Poe Boy/Atlantic
11/08/10 4:07 JAY-Z Empire State Of Mind f/A. Keys Roc Nation
11/08/10 4:12 DAUGHTRY September RCA/RMG
11/08/10 4:15 MAROON 5 Misery A&M/Octone/Interscope
11/08/10 4:19 BAREILLES, SARA King Of Anything Epic
11/08/10 4:22 PINK Raise Your Glass LaFace/JLG
11/08/10 4:25 THE SCRIPT Breakeven Phonogenic/Epic
11/08/10 4:29 EMINEM No Love f/Lil'Wayne Shady/After/Interscope
11/08/10 4:35 POSNER, MIKE Please Don't Go J/RMG
11/08/10 4:39 CYRUS, MILEY Party In The USA Hollywood
11/08/10 4:42 RIHANNA What's My Name? f/Drake Def Jam/IDJMG
11/08/10 4:46 METRO STATION Shake It Columbia
11/08/10 4:49 KE$HA We R Who We R Kemosabe/RCA/RMG
11/08/10 4:53 PERRY, KATY California Gurls f/Snoop Dogg Capitol
11/08/10 4:57 NEON TREES Animal Mercury/IDJMG
11/08/10 5:00 CRUZ, TAIO Dirty Picture f/Ke$ha Mercury/IDJMG
11/08/10 5:03 IGLESIAS, ENRIQUE I Like It f/Pitbull Universal Republic
11/08/10 5:07 SPEARS, BRITNEY Toxic Jive/Zomba
11/08/10 5:11 MCCARTNEY, JESSE Shake Hollywood
11/08/10 5:14 GUETTA, DAVID Sexy Chick f/Akon Astralwerks/Capitol
11/08/10 5:17 FAR EAST MOVEMENT Like A G6 f/Cataracs & Dev Cherrytree/Interscope
11/08/10 5:21 USHER OMG f/will.i.am LaFace/JLG
11/08/10 5:25 TRAIN If It's Love Columbia
11/08/10 5:30 NELLY Just A Dream Derrty/Universal Motown
11/08/10 5:34 READY SET Love Like Woe Reprise
11/08/10 5:38 PERRY, KATY Teenage Dream Capitol
11/08/10 5:42 FLO RIDA Right Round Poe Boy/Atlantic
11/08/10 5:47 FRAY Over My Head (Cable Car) Epic
11/08/10 5:51 MARS, BRUNO Just The Way You Are Elektra/Atlantic
11/08/10 5:55 POSNER, MIKE Cooler Than Me J/RMG
11/08/10 5:58 HILSON, KERI Knock You Down Mosley/Zone4/Interscope
11/08/10 6:07 USHER F/PITBULL DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love LaFace/JLG
11/08/10 6:22 RIHANNA Only Girl (In The World) Def Jam/IDJMG
11/08/10 6:35 RAY J/YUNG BERG Sexy Can I Knockout/Koch/Epic
11/08/10 6:38 FLO RIDA Club Can't Handle Me f/DGuetta Poe Boy/Atlantic
11/08/10 6:48 STONE TEMPLE PILOTS Plush Atlantic
11/08/10 6:53 BLACK EYED PEAS Imma Be Interscope
11/08/10 7:07 POSNER, MIKE Please Don't Go J/RMG
11/08/10 7:21 NEON TREES Animal Mercury/IDJMG
11/08/10 7:33 LADY GAGA Bad Romance Interscope
11/08/10 7:38 IGLESIAS, ENRIQUE I Like It f/Pitbull Universal Republic
11/08/10 7:47 FAR EAST MOVEMENT Like A G6 f/Cataracs & Dev Cherrytree/Interscope
11/08/10 8:01 NELLY Just A Dream Derrty/Universal Motown
11/08/10 8:08 KE$HA Take It Off Kemosabe/RCA/RMG
11/08/10 8:19 PERRY, KATY Firework Capitol
11/08/10 8:35 FRAY How To Save A Life Epic

[EvanJ]

Nov 8, 2010 0:36:42 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

Nov 7, 2010 9:41:26 GMT -5 atlantaboy said:

Yeah I just checked allaccess.com, and Elmira is market #227, and Mediabase only monitors the Top 200 markets (or at least only publishes playlists for those stations)

WNKI is the #1 station in Elmira though (it's got a 12.3 rating, which is insane!)

#227, is that bad, good or average? 12.3 sounds great, whatever it means, if it gets very high ratings, does that mean Mediabase might start monitoring it in the future?

Nov 7, 2010 21:29:34 GMT -5 EvanJ said:

A few times a year including Thanksgiving I go to relatives where I can get WNKI. www.stationratings.com actually calls WNKI a Hot AC station although that sample hour is CHR-Pop. wink106.com/page.php?page_id=33607 has the top songs on WNKI and www.94rockfm.com/page.php?page_id=18760 has the top songs in WLVY which competes with WNKI.

Hot AC? That's stupid. The station is definitely a CHR/Pop, and a good one, not a Rhythmic CHR/Pop station. Thanks for the stationratings.com link, haven't seen that before.

The two reasons that I want WNKI to be monitored are so that it can count/influence the chart, and so that I'd be able to save the full daily playlists without listening. While it's fun, it gets annoying to be looking at the clock and writing down every time a new song starts.

Any double-digit rating is great, but Mediabase will just go by market size. If Mediabase went by cume, time spent lsitening or whatever the definition of the Arbitron ratings is then stations in smaller markets could start or stop being monitored whenever their ratings changed. It's simpler to just measure the top X number of markets. The market sizes are updated twice a year and the number of stations entering the Top 100, Top 150, Top 200, etc. markets on any one updated will only be a couple. The biggest radio market in the country is New York (15,730,000 people age 12+) and the smallest of the 290 monitored markets is Casper, Wyoming with 63,500 people age 12+. Elmira-Corning has 159,300 people age 12+. arbitron.com/downloads/redbook_fa10.pdf has all the market populations on Pages 6 to 9.

[atlantaboy]

Nov 8, 2010 0:36:42 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

Nov 7, 2010 9:41:26 GMT -5 atlantaboy said:

Yeah I just checked allaccess.com, and Elmira is market #227, and Mediabase only monitors the Top 200 markets (or at least only publishes playlists for those stations)

WNKI is the #1 station in Elmira though (it's got a 12.3 rating, which is insane!)

#227, is that bad, good or average? 12.3 sounds great, whatever it means, if it gets very high ratings, does that mean Mediabase might start monitoring it in the future?

Wait...think you misunderstood

#227 is the market size (i. e. Elmira is the 227nd biggest metro area in the U. S.)

A 12.3 rating is almost unheard of, so huge % of people in Elmira listen to WNKI - but Mediabase only publishes playlists for the Top 200 biggest metro areas in the U. S., and Elmira's too small

BTW did you really sit and listen to the station for 8 1/2 hours and write down all the songs? :o

[atlantaboy]

Nov 8, 2010 10:34:46 GMT -5 EvanJ said:

the smallest of the 290 monitored markets is Casper, Wyoming with 63,500 people age 12+.

Are you sure markets 200-290 are monitored by Mediabase (not just rated by Arbitron)? If they are, their playlists aren't published on allaccess for some reason

[Lozzy]

Nov 8, 2010 10:34:46 GMT -5 EvanJ said:

Nov 8, 2010 0:36:42 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

#227, is that bad, good or average? 12.3 sounds great, whatever it means, if it gets very high ratings, does that mean Mediabase might start monitoring it in the future?



Hot AC? That's stupid. The station is definitely a CHR/Pop, and a good one, not a Rhythmic CHR/Pop station. Thanks for the stationratings.com link, haven't seen that before.

The two reasons that I want WNKI to be monitored are so that it can count/influence the chart, and so that I'd be able to save the full daily playlists without listening. While it's fun, it gets annoying to be looking at the clock and writing down every time a new song starts.

Any double-digit rating is great, but Mediabase will just go by market size. If Mediabase went by cume, time spent lsitening or whatever the definition of the Arbitron ratings is then stations in smaller markets could start or stop being monitored whenever their ratings changed. It's simpler to just measure the top X number of markets. The market sizes are updated twice a year and the number of stations entering the Top 100, Top 150, Top 200, etc. markets on any one updated will only be a couple. The biggest radio market in the country is New York (15,730,000 people age 12+) and the smallest of the 290 monitored markets is Casper, Wyoming with 63,500 people age 12+. Elmira-Corning has 159,300 people age 12+. arbitron.com/downloads/redbook_fa10.pdf has all the market populations on Pages 6 to 9.

Thanks for that information! Why and how do they only count people older than 12 years old?

Nov 8, 2010 20:34:32 GMT -5 atlantaboy said:

Nov 8, 2010 0:36:42 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

#227, is that bad, good or average? 12.3 sounds great, whatever it means, if it gets very high ratings, does that mean Mediabase might start monitoring it in the future?

Wait...think you misunderstood

#227 is the market size (i. e. Elmira is the 227nd biggest metro area in the U. S.)

A 12.3 rating is almost unheard of, so huge % of people in Elmira listen to WNKI - but Mediabase only publishes playlists for the Top 200 biggest metro areas in the U. S., and Elmira's too small

BTW did you really sit and listen to the station for 8 1/2 hours and write down all the songs? :o

So it's that 12.3% of people in Corning/Elmira listen to WNKI, not 12.3 thousand people or whatever?

And yes, I did. I might do just the same today.

[EvanJ]

Nov 9, 2010 0:03:15 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

So it's that 12.3% of people in Corning/Elmira listen to WNKI, not 12.3 thousand people or whatever?

No. It may mean that 12.3% of terrestrial radio listening in the market was to WNKI, but years ago when I added up the ratings for all the stations it added up to 80 to 90 depending on the market but not 100.

[Lozzy]

Nov 9, 2010 8:30:52 GMT -5 EvanJ said:

Nov 9, 2010 0:03:15 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

So it's that 12.3% of people in Corning/Elmira listen to WNKI, not 12.3 thousand people or whatever?

No. It may mean that 12.3% of terrestrial radio listening in the market was to WNKI, but years ago when I added up the ratings for all the stations it added up to 80 to 90 depending on the market but not 100.

Sorry, but that makes no sense to me :(

[Lozzy]

Bedtime now, nine hours of playlist! :o WNKI

11/08/10 23:49 BABY BASH Suga Suga Universal
11/08/10 23:53 MARS, BRUNO Just The Way You Are Elektra/Atlantic
11/08/10 23:56 LADY GAGA Poker Face Interscope

11/09/10 0:00 T.I. Whatever You Like Grand Hustle/Atlantic
11/09/10 0:04 SONGZ, TREY Bottoms Up f/Nicki Minaj Songbook/Atlantic
11/09/10 0:08 THE SCRIPT Breakeven Phonogenic/Epic
11/09/10 0:12 BAREILLES, SARA King Of Anything Epic
11/09/10 0:15 SHINEDOWN Second Chance Atlantic
11/09/10 0:19 GOOD CHARLOTTE Like It's Her Birthday Capitol
11/09/10 0:22 PERRY, KATY Firework Capitol
11/09/10 0:26 LEWIS, LEONA Bleeding Love SYCO/J/RMG
11/09/10 0:30 SICK PUPPIES Maybe RMR/Virgin/Capitol
11/09/10 0:34 CRUZ, TAIO Dynamite Mercury/IDJMG
11/09/10 0:37 RIHANNA Only Girl (In The World) Def Jam/IDJMG
11/09/10 0:41 KINGSTON, SEAN Letting Go (Dutty Love) Beluga Heights/Epic
11/09/10 0:45 LA ROUX Bulletproof Cherrytree/Interscope
11/09/10 0:49 USHER F/PITBULL DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love LaFace/JLG
11/09/10 0:52 DERULO, JASON What If Beluga Hts/Warner Bros.
11/09/10 0:56 CYRUS, MILEY Party In The USA Hollywood
11/09/10 0:59 MAYA, EDWARD Stereo Love Ultra

11/09/10 1:02 PINK Raise Your Glass LaFace/JLG
11/09/10 1:06 TIMBALAND Carry Out f/Justin Timberlake Mosley/Interscope
11/09/10 1:10 KE$HA We R Who We R Kemosabe/RCA/RMG
11/09/10 1:13 PERRY, KATY Teenage Dream Capitol
11/09/10 1:17 BLACK EYED PEAS The Time (The Dirty Bit) Interscope
11/09/10 1:21 POSNER, MIKE Please Don't Go J/RMG
11/09/10 1:25 LADY GAGA Alejandro Interscope
11/09/10 1:29 AKON Angel SRC/Universal Motown
11/09/10 1:34 NEON TREES Animal Mercury/IDJMG
11/09/10 1:37 BEYONCE Single Ladies (Put A Ring... Music World/Columbia
11/09/10 1:40 GUETTA, DAVID Memories f/Kid Cudi Astralwerks/Capitol
11/09/10 1:43 MRAZ, JASON I'm Yours Atlantic/RRP
11/09/10 1:46 RIHANNA What's My Name? f/Drake Def Jam/IDJMG
11/09/10 1:50 TRAIN Hey, Soul Sister BNA/Columbia
11/09/10 1:54 FAR EAST MOVEMENT Like A G6 f/Cataracs & Dev Cherrytree/Interscope
11/09/10 1:58 GOOD CHARLOTTE Like It's Her Birthday Capitol

11/09/10 2:01 NELLY Just A Dream Derrty/Universal Motown
11/09/10 2:05 KE$HA Your Love Is My Drug Kemosabe/RCA/RMG
11/09/10 2:08 DAUGHTRY September RCA/RMG
11/09/10 2:12 PERRY, KATY Hot N Cold Capitol
11/09/10 2:15 EMINEM No Love f/Lil'Wayne Shady/After/Interscope
11/09/10 2:20 MARS, BRUNO Just The Way You Are Elektra/Atlantic
11/09/10 2:24 RIHANNA Don't Stop The Music SRP/Def Jam/IDJMG
11/09/10 2:28 MAROON 5 Give A Little More A&M/Octone/Interscope
11/09/10 2:31 SWIFT, TAYLOR Mine Big Machine
11/09/10 2:35 SONGZ, TREY Bottoms Up f/Nicki Minaj Songbook/Atlantic
11/09/10 2:39 KINGSTON, SEAN Letting Go (Dutty Love) Beluga Heights/Epic
11/09/10 2:44 HILSON, KERI Knock You Down Mosley/Zone4/Interscope
11/09/10 2:48 PERRY, KATY Firework Capitol
11/09/10 2:52 READY SET Love Like Woe Reprise
11/09/10 2:55 CRUZ, TAIO Break Your Heart f/Ludacris Mercury/IDJMG
11/09/10 2:58 WILLOW Whip My Hair Roc Nation/Columbia

11/09/10 3:02 USHER F/PITBULL DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love LaFace/JLG
11/09/10 3:05 PINK So What LaFace/JLG
11/09/10 3:09 MARS, BRUNO Grenade Elektra/Atlantic
11/09/10 3:12 FLO RIDA Club Can't Handle Me f/DGuetta Poe Boy/Atlantic
11/09/10 3:16 TRAIN If It's Love Columbia
11/09/10 3:20 RIHANNA Only Girl (In The World) Def Jam/IDJMG
11/09/10 3:24 DRAKE Find Your Love YM/CM/Universal Motown
11/09/10 3:27 MAYA, EDWARD Stereo Love Ultra
11/09/10 3:31 PINK Raise Your Glass LaFace/JLG
11/09/10 3:34 COBRA STARSHIP Good Girls Go Bad f/L. Meester FuelByRamen/Atlantic/RRP
11/09/10 3:37 AKON Angel SRC/Universal Motown
11/09/10 3:41 BEDINGFIELD, NATASHA Unwritten Epic
11/09/10 3:45 MCCARTNEY, JESSE Shake Hollywood
11/09/10 3:48 B.O.B Airplanes f/Hayley Williams Rebel Rock/GH/Atlantic
11/09/10 3:51 POSNER, MIKE Please Don't Go J/RMG
11/09/10 3:54 GUETTA, DAVID Memories f/Kid Cudi Astralwerks/Capitol
11/09/10 3:57 BEYONCE Irreplaceable Music World/Columbia

11/09/10 4:01 NEON TREES Animal Mercury/IDJMG
11/09/10 4:04 BLACK EYED PEAS I Gotta Feeling Interscope
11/09/10 4:08 DERULO, JASON What If Beluga Hts/Warner Bros.
11/09/10 4:11 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS Gives You Hell DGC/Interscope
11/09/10 4:15 YOLANDA BE COOL & DCUP We No Speak Americano Ultra
11/09/10 4:17 FAR EAST MOVEMENT Like A G6 f/Cataracs & Dev Cherrytree/Interscope
11/09/10 4:21 FRAY Over My Head (Cable Car) Epic
11/09/10 4:25 WILL.I.AM & NICKI MINAJ Check It Out will.i.am/Interscope
11/09/10 4:29 PERRY, KATY Teenage Dream Capitol
11/09/10 4:33 NELLY Just A Dream Derrty/Universal Motown
11/09/10 4:37 GOOD CHARLOTTE Like It's Her Birthday Capitol
11/09/10 4:41 LADY GAGA Bad Romance Interscope
11/09/10 4:45 MARS, BRUNO Just The Way You Are Elektra/Atlantic
11/09/10 4:49 BAREILLES, SARA King Of Anything Epic
11/09/10 4:52 BLACK EYED PEAS Boom Boom Pow Interscope
11/09/10 4:56 KINGSTON, SEAN Letting Go (Dutty Love) Beluga Heights/Epic

11/09/10 5:00 CLARKSON, KELLY Since U Been Gone RCA/RMG
11/09/10 5:03 DERULO, JASON In My Head Beluga Hts/Warner Bros.
11/09/10 5:06 SONGZ, TREY Bottoms Up f/Nicki Minaj Songbook/Atlantic
11/09/10 5:10 ONEREPUBLIC All The Right Moves Mosley/BG/Interscope
11/09/10 5:14 RIHANNA What's My Name? f/Drake Def Jam/IDJMG
11/09/10 5:18 PERRY, KATY Firework Capitol
11/09/10 5:22 TIMBERLAKE, JUSTIN My Love f/T.I. Jive/Zomba
11/09/10 5:27 SICK PUPPIES Maybe RMR/Virgin/Capitol
11/09/10 5:31 USHER F/PITBULL DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love LaFace/JLG
11/09/10 5:35 DAUGHTRY September RCA/RMG
11/09/10 5:39 SWIFT, TAYLOR Mine Big Machine
11/09/10 5:43 WEST, KANYE Stronger f/Daft Punk Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam/IDJMG
11/09/10 5:51 RIHANNA Only Girl (In The World) Def Jam/IDJMG
11/09/10 5:55 SEAN, JAY Down f/Lil Wayne Cash Money/Uni Republic
11/09/10 5:58 MCCOY, TRAVIE Billionaire f/Bruno Mars Fueled By Ramen/RRP

11/09/10 6:06 PINK Raise Your Glass LaFace/JLG
11/09/10 6:24 KE$HA We R Who We R Kemosabe/RCA/RMG
11/09/10 6:38 NEON TREES Animal Mercury/IDJMG
11/09/10 6:49 SMASH MOUTH All Star Interscope

11/09/10 7:02 NELLY Just A Dream Derrty/Universal Motown
11/09/10 7:05 PERRY, KATY Teenage Dream Capitol
11/09/10 7:18 MARS, BRUNO Just The Way You Are Elektra/Atlantic
11/09/10 7:32 FERGIE Big Girls Don't Cry (Personal) Will.I.Am/A&M/Interscope
11/09/10 7:38 SONGZ, TREY Bottoms Up f/Nicki Minaj Songbook/Atlantic
11/09/10 7:52 RUDOLF, KEVIN Let It Rock f/Lil Wayne CM/Universal Republic

11/09/10 8:06 PERRY, KATY Firework Capitol
11/09/10 8:21 RIHANNA Only Girl (In The World) Def Jam/IDJMG
11/09/10 8:35 PERRY, KATY California Gurls f/Snoop Dogg Capitol
11/09/10 8:41 PINK Raise Your Glass LaFace/JLG
11/09/10 8:52 MCCARTNEY, JESSE Shake Hollywood

[atlantaboy]

Nov 9, 2010 0:03:15 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

Nov 8, 2010 10:34:46 GMT -5 EvanJ said:

Any double-digit rating is great, but Mediabase will just go by market size. If Mediabase went by cume, time spent lsitening or whatever the definition of the Arbitron ratings is then stations in smaller markets could start or stop being monitored whenever their ratings changed. It's simpler to just measure the top X number of markets. The market sizes are updated twice a year and the number of stations entering the Top 100, Top 150, Top 200, etc. markets on any one updated will only be a couple. The biggest radio market in the country is New York (15,730,000 people age 12+) and the smallest of the 290 monitored markets is Casper, Wyoming with 63,500 people age 12+. Elmira-Corning has 159,300 people age 12+. arbitron.com/downloads/redbook_fa10.pdf has all the market populations on Pages 6 to 9.

Thanks for that information! Why and how do they only count people older than 12 years old?

Arbitron mails people "diaries" to keep track of how long they spend listening to what radio station - they keep the diaries for a week, then they mail them back - people under 12 are too young to keep track of the diaries

Also, I think what I said about Arbitron ratings translating into percent of listeners was wrong - I think that the higher the rating a station has, the more average hours spent listening it has (i. e. on average, radio listeners in Elmira tend to spend a lot of time listening to WNKI) - not sure how they come up with the 12.3 number, but it's def. not a percent, or a direct number of listeners (12.3 thousand etc.)

[somelikeitwhen]

I can occasionally get this station in Binghamton, but the signal comes in pretty badly.

[EvanJ]

Nov 9, 2010 15:56:19 GMT -5 somelikeitwhen said:

I can occasionally get this station in Binghamton, but the signal comes in pretty badly.

I don't know what model radio my relatives have, but I can get WNKI in Endwell, which is west of Binghamton and one town east of Endicott which is what your location says. It may depend on the elevation and mountains in the area.

[Lozzy]

Nov 9, 2010 9:37:20 GMT -5 atlantaboy said:

Nov 9, 2010 0:03:15 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

Thanks for that information! Why and how do they only count people older than 12 years old?

Arbitron mails people "diaries" to keep track of how long they spend listening to what radio station - they keep the diaries for a week, then they mail them back - people under 12 are too young to keep track of the diaries

Also, I think what I said about Arbitron ratings translating into percent of listeners was wrong - I think that the higher the rating a station has, the more average hours spent listening it has (i. e. on average, radio listeners in Elmira tend to spend a lot of time listening to WNKI) - not sure how they come up with the 12.3 number, but it's def. not a percent, or a direct number of listeners (12.3 thousand etc.)

About how many people would they usually send those diaries to?

[atlantaboy]

^Not sure

[EvanJ]

I don't know if Arbitron even announces how many people they send diaries to. Although the 12+ ratings are released to the public, remember that the ratings are made for radio stations and advertisers, not for people who use the ratings for their entertainment.

[Lozzy]

Nov 10, 2010 18:13:51 GMT -5 EvanJ said:

I don't know if Arbitron even announces how many people they send diaries to. Although the 12+ ratings are released to the public, remember that the ratings are made for radio stations and advertisers, not for people who use the ratings for their entertainment.

Would you have any approximate idea on the figure? 100? 1000? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? 10,000,000? 100,000,000? 1,000,000,000? 10,000,000,000?

[EvanJ]

Well as I said the Elmira-Corning market has 159,300 people. I would expect that bigger markets have more people do diaries, and some big markets now use the Portable People Meter (PPM) instead of diaries. boards.radio-info.com/smf/ is a message board about radio and has David Eduardo who knows a lot.

[Slinky]

Nov 8, 2010 0:36:42 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

Hot AC? That's stupid. The station is definitely a CHR/Pop, and a good one, not a Rhythmic CHR/Pop station. Thanks for the stationratings.com link, haven't seen that before.

I haven't heard the station in a while, but a number of years back, they used to be Hot AC, or at least a fairly adult-leaning CHR. I don't know when they changed, but evidently someone compiling the ratings didn't get the memo.

Elmira is lucky to have two good CHRs, Wink and 94 Rock.

[Lozzy]

Nov 21, 2010 17:12:07 GMT -5 Slinky said:

Nov 8, 2010 0:36:42 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

Hot AC? That's stupid. The station is definitely a CHR/Pop, and a good one, not a Rhythmic CHR/Pop station. Thanks for the stationratings.com link, haven't seen that before.

I haven't heard the station in a while, but a number of years back, they used to be Hot AC, or at least a fairly adult-leaning CHR. I don't know when they changed, but evidently someone compiling the ratings didn't get the memo.

Elmira is lucky to have two good CHRs, Wink and 94 Rock.

The first time I listened to that station was in December last year, so that's easily possible. Anyway, Elmira is lucky to have one good CHR.

[Au$tin]

I hear you, Slizzard! My local CHR is honestly one of the best I've ever heard. I'm not just saying that because it's my local CHR, but because it is a really perfect example of a CHR. I REALLY wish it was monitored. Even just as as an activator station, but sadly it's not. :( Ranked #242. Has a 7.8 rating, and is the fourth highest in our market behind a country, AC, and classic rock station. :(

2:42 PM - Rihanna "Only Girl (In the World)"
2:45 PM - P!nk "Perfect"
2:54 PM - Lady Gaga "Judas"
2:58 PM - Beyoncé "Crazy In Love (feat. Jay-Z)"

3:02 PM - B.o.B "Airplanes (feat. Hayley Williams)"
3:05 PM - Justin Timberlake "What Goes Around... Comes Around"
3:09 PM - Tinie Tempah "Written in the Stars (feat. Eric Turner)"
3:13 PM - Jason Derülo "Ridin' Solo"
3:16 PM - Nicki Minaj "Super Bass" :o WTF?!!!
3:20 PM - Dr. Dre "I Need a Doctor (feat. Eminem and Skylar Grey)"
3:28 PM - Maroon 5 "Misery"
3:32 PM - Britney Spears "Till the World Ends"
3:36 PM - 30 Seconds to Mars "Closer to the Edge"
3:44 PM - The Black Eyed Peas "Boom Boom Pow"
3:48 PM - The Ready Set "Young Forever"
3:54 PM - The Script "For the First Time"
3:58 PM - The All-American Rejects "Dirty Little Secret"

4:02 PM - Katy Perry "E.T."
4:06 PM - Waka Flocka Flame "No Hands (feat. Roscoe Dash and Wale)"
4:10 PM - Taio Cruz "Higher (Remix) (feat. Travie McCoy)"
4:14 PM - Adele "Rolling in the Deep"
4:18 PM - My Chemical Romance "Sing"
4:22 PM - Jennifer Lopez "On the Floor (feat. Pitbull)"
4:30 PM - Lady Gaga "Born This Way"
4:34 PM - Ke$ha "Blow"
4:38 PM - New Boyz "Backseat (feat. The Cataracs and Dev)"

Oh, I love Zimmer Radio Group!!!

If anyone wants to listen: www.streamaudio.com/Player/Player.aspx?Station=KTXY_FM&filename=&Optin=

;)

[Lozzy]

I agree, your station seems great. Probably better than the majority of stations actually on the panel.

[Au$tin]

Apr 24, 2011 23:02:26 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

I agree, your station seems great. Probably better than the majority of stations actually on the panel.

I know, right?! And people here complain all the time about how they play the same song over and over. I just laugh at them and think, "You should see some others in the country with one song getting played nearly 20 times a day."

All day at work today, I kept track of what my local CHR was playing.

08:47 - OneRepublic "Goof Life" C
08:56 - Britney Spears "Till the World Ends" C

09:00 - Faith Hill "This Kiss" G
09:04 - Bruno Mars "The Lazy Song" C
09:07 - Ke$ha "We R Who We R" R
09:11 - The Black Eyed Peas "Just Can't Get Enough" C
09:15 - My Chemical Romance "Sing" C
09:27 - Pitbull "Hey Baby (Drop It to the Floor) (feat. T-Pain)" C
09:31 - Mike Posner "Bow Chicka Wow Wow (Remix) (feat. Lil Wayne)" C
09:42 - Jason Mraz "I'm Yours" G
09:46 - Usher "More (RedOne Jimmy Joker Remix)" C
09:57 - Tinie Tempah "Written in the Stars (feat. Eric Turner)" C

10:01 - Katy Perry "E.T." C
10:04 - Lupe Fiasco "The Show Goes On" C
10:09 - Rihanna "Umbrella (feat. Jay-Z)" R
10:12 - P!nk "Perfect" C
10:16 - The Ready Set "Love Like Woe" R
10:19 - Avril Lavigne "What the Hell" C
10:26 - La Roux "Bulletproof" R
10:30 - Britney Spears "Till the World Ends" C
10:39 - Travie McCoy "Billionaire (feat. Bruno Mars)" R
10:43 - Lady Gaga "Judas" C
10:52 - Nicki Minaj "Moment 4 Life (feat. Drake)" C
10:57 - Timbaland "Apologize (feat. OneRepublic)" G

11:00 - Enrique Iglesias "Tonight (I'm Lovin' You) (feat. Ludacris and DJ Frank E)" R
11:04 - Jessie J "Price Tag (feat. B.o.B)" C
11:08 - Selena Gomez & the Scene "Naturally" R
11:11 - Tinie Tempah "Written in the Stars (feat. Eric Turner)" C ;)
11:15 - New Boyz "Backseat (feat. The Cataracs and Dev)" C
11:18 - Beyoncé "Irreplaceable" G
11:27 - Jeremih "Down on Me (feat. 50 Cent)" C
11:31 - Kevin Rudolf "I Made It (Cash Money Heroes) (feat. Jay Sean, Birdman, and Lil Wayne)" R
11:36 - Big Time Rush "Boyfriend (feat. Snoop Dogg)" C
11:45 - Katy Perry "Firework" R
11:48 - Jennifer Lopez "On the Floor (feat. Pitbull)" C

I went to lunch here. On the way home for lunch I did hear Madonna's "Like a Virgin" as part of my station's Retro Lunch.

12:53 - DeBarge "Rhythm of the Night" G
12:58 - Culture Club "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me" G

01:02 - The Black Eyed Peas "Just Can't Get Enough" C
01:06 - Taio Cruz "Dynamite" R
01:10 - Daughtry "Feels Like Tonight" G
01:14 - Rihanna "S&M" C
01:18 - Adam Lambert "Whataya Want From Me" R
01:22 - Jennifer Lopez "On the Floor (feat. Pitbull)" C
01:29 - Bruno Mars "Just the Way You Are" R
01:33 - The Script "For the First Time" C
01:42 - Diddy - Dirty Money "Coming Home (feat. Skylar Grey)" R
01:46 - Selena Gomez & the Scene "Who Says" C
01:53 - Dr. Dre "I Need a Doctor (feat. Eminem and Skylar Grey)" C
01:58 - Nelly Furtado "Say It Right" G

02:02 - The Black Eyed Peas "I Gotta Feeling" R
02:06 - Tinie Tempah "Written in the Stars (feat. Eric Turner)" C
02:09 - Ke$ha "TiK ToK" R
02:13 - Katy Perry "E.T." C
02:16 - 30 Seconds to Mars "Closer to the Edge" C
02:20 - Justin Timberlake "Rock Your Body" G
02:29 - Bruno Mars "The Lazy Song" C
02:32 - Theory of a Deadman "Not Meant to Be" R
02:39 - Cee Lo Green "Forget You" C
02:43 - Britney Spears "Till the World Ends" C
02:52 - Avril Lavigne "What the Hell" C
02:55 - Eminem "Lose Yourself" G

03:01 - Nicki Minaj "Moment 4 Life (feat. Drake)" C
03:05 - T.I. "Whatever You Like" R
03:09 - Jessie J "Price Tag (feat. B.o.B)" C
03:21 - My Chemical Romance "Sing" C
03:25 - Lady Gaga "Bad Romance" R
03:30 - Jennifer Lopez "On the Floor (feat. Pitbull)" C
03:34 - Daughtry "Life After You" R
03:38 - Ke$ha "Blow" C
03:47 - Mike Posner "Cooler Than Me" R
03:50 - Lifehouse "Halfway Gone" R

04:00 - Rihanna "S&M" C
04:04 - Usher "More (RedOne Jimmy Joker Remix)" C
04:08 - Tinie Tempah "Written in the Stars (feat. Eric Turner)" C
04:18 - Jordin Sparks "Tattoo" G
04:22 - Timbaland "Carry Out (feat. Justin Timberlake)" C
04:26 - The Black Eyed Peas "Just Can't Get Enough" C
04:31 - P!nk "Perfect" C
04:34 - Lupe Fiasco "The Show Goes On" C
04:45 - Enrique Iglesias "I Like It (feat. Pitbull)" R
04:48 - OneRepublic "Good Life" C
04:58 - Plain White T's "Rhythm of Love" R

Then I went home.

The only two songs that seemed to be played somewhat frequently were "On the Floor" and "Written in the Stars." Most songs were only played 1-3 times. The only glaring flaw I noticed was "Rolling in the Deep" was not played at all. (Unless it was played between 11:48 and 12:00) I did hear it in the car on the way home, though. I should also mention I heard "Blow" and "S&M" on the way to work this morning, too, which makes their one spin seem better. I also heard "S&M" on the way home, too.

[Lozzy]

If I counted right, that's 28% recurrents and 13% golds. I could only dream of hearing some of those songs played. I've definitely got to give your station a go when I can [if I can]. :)

[Au$tin]

Apr 25, 2011 20:13:01 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

If I counted right, that's 28% recurrents and 13% golds. I could only dream of hearing some of those songs played. I've definitely got to give your station a go when I can [if I can]. :)

If you ever do, make sure it's one of these times:
12:00am-3:00pm & 7:00pm-11:59pm on weekdays
12:00am-6:00am & 10:00am-6:00pm on Saturday
Anytime but 6:00pm-11:00pm and 6:00am-7:00am on Sunday

That's when it's 100% original programming from the station. Other times it's either Open House Party, Ryan Seacrest (with a few extras chosen by the station), or a religious show.

[Lozzy]

Apr 25, 2011 20:35:02 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Apr 25, 2011 20:13:01 GMT -5 Lozzy said:

If I counted right, that's 28% recurrents and 13% golds. I could only dream of hearing some of those songs played. I've definitely got to give your station a go when I can [if I can]. :)

If you ever do, make sure it's one of these times:
12:00am-3:00pm & 7:00pm-11:59pm on weekdays
12:00am-6:00am & 10:00am-6:00pm on Saturday
Anytime but 6:00pm-11:00pm and 6:00am-7:00am on Sunday

That's when it's 100% original programming from the station. Other times it's either Open House Party, Ryan Seacrest (with a few extras chosen by the station), or a religious show.

I managed to make the stream work, so I'm listening now. 3/11 songs I didn't know, I never get that with my usual stations.