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Post by pen on Jun 10, 2011 20:04:38 GMT -5
Also, I wouldn't really bat too much of an eye at Cold performing under Nonpoint since they roughly share the same level of popularity. I'd think them more likely to co-headline though.
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Post by lockebox on Jun 10, 2011 20:10:21 GMT -5
Yeah, possibly. I'd be more interested in Cold/Nonpoint than Cold/Volbeat, tbh. 4,000 posts.
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Post by Devin on Jun 10, 2011 20:10:36 GMT -5
Hail the Villain's much bigger in Canada than in the U.S. I think "Take Back the Fear" hit Top 10 on the overall rock chart, "Runaway" went Top 20 (I think because I don't follow Canadian charts anymore), and I'm pretty sure their album is heavily praised and it got nominated for Rock Album of the Year in the Juno Awards. Cold is barely anything in Canada, I doubt "Wicked World" will even hit Top 50 on the rock chart. I don't believe they were even that big back in 2004 or whatever. Same with basically all U.S. nu-metal bands.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 27, 2011 12:00:19 GMT -5
Top 30 on Active:
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Post by lockebox on Jun 27, 2011 18:29:36 GMT -5
Sweet. This could turn out to be their second most successful single on Active.
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Post by rockmaniac on Jul 19, 2011 13:35:26 GMT -5
top 5 iTunes Rock top 20 Overall
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Post by slicknickshady on Jul 19, 2011 22:27:48 GMT -5
This album is really really good.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 22, 2011 19:41:04 GMT -5
It's ok. I thought it was going to be "really, really good" after the first few tracks, but it kind of drifts off afterwards. "American Dream" or "What Happens Now" should be the second single.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jul 23, 2011 0:15:14 GMT -5
I love "Emily". Such a beautiful track. I think after "The Park" is when i start to lose interest. But i think there last album in '05 was really good as well. I do think Cold is a really underrated band.
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Post by rockmaniac on Jul 26, 2011 15:42:01 GMT -5
- 39 COLD ELEVEN SEVEN MUSIC 10,398 -- SUPERFICTION
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 26, 2011 16:01:06 GMT -5
I don't know what you were expecting, considering they were never superstars and haven't put anything out in the last 6 years.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 26, 2011 16:13:29 GMT -5
They doubled Crossfade's first-week sales, which is kinda a surprise to me.
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Post by American Idiot on Jul 26, 2011 18:12:56 GMT -5
They hit the Top 10 on both formats with "Stupid Girl" "No One" hit the Top 20 on both as well. "Suffocate" peaked at #17 on Active and barely missed Alternative. Otherwise, they had six other singles peak in the Top 40. "Wicked World" is one of those now at #26 on Active. That's pretty decent I'd say considering it's been six years since their last release.
As for Crossfade, all three singles from their self-titled went Top 10. "Cold" peaked at #23 on CHR/Pop. From "Falling Away," "Invincible" peaked at #18 and "Drown You Out" at #21.
I guess I'm a little surprised as well. They've both had moderate success. Not to say either has had a huge career, but weren't complete one album wonders either. To me, I figured Crossfade was more known because of the first album singles. Especially "Cold" since it reached out to a larger audience than strictly rock fans.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 26, 2011 18:44:17 GMT -5
To me, I figured Crossfade was more known because of the first album singles. Especially "Cold" since it reached out to a larger audience than strictly rock fans. I guess that larger pop audience is also a significantly more fickle audience. :/
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 28, 2011 22:55:32 GMT -5
It's ok. I thought it was going to be "really, really good" after the first few tracks, but it kind of drifts off afterwards. I didn't have any time last week to go out and pick it up, so I ordered it in order to still get the first-week sale. Unfortunately, it's not due to arrive until after they come to town, so I'm gonna have to stream all the songs a few times online to familiarize myself with the new material. Granted, I'm pretty sleepy right now, but my first impression was kinda disappointing, which worries me. Cold albums are pretty immediate. I didn't notice any standout tracks and across the board they're all kind of scaled back in terms of heaviness.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 28, 2011 23:00:21 GMT -5
I'm not a massive Cold fan and never felt compelled to listen to the newest album or A Different Kind Of Pain, but isn't ADKOP pretty damn mellow? As in mellower than what I would presume the new record to be after hearing "Wicked World"?
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Post by slicknickshady on Jul 30, 2011 1:22:24 GMT -5
I was happy it debut Top 40 to be honest. I was not expecting much. They do have two Gold Albums but by 2005 they just didnt have the selling power anymore. I mean the rock band Kittie actually has one gold album. And they are selling nowhere close to that these days. It happens. Cold is still a really great group imo. Scooter Ward is one of the most underrated singer/songwriters in my opinion. I love all types of music. Really heavy stuff and even when the heavy bands go mellow. I mean Superfiction isnt as mellow as ADKOP but it is more mellow than the self titled, 13 ways, and year of the spider.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Aug 1, 2011 1:46:54 GMT -5
I'm not a massive Cold fan and never felt compelled to listen to the newest album or A Different Kind Of Pain, but isn't ADKOP pretty damn mellow? As in mellower than what I would presume the new record to be after hearing "Wicked World"? I'll get back to you on this. I downloaded it illegally because time was of the essence and I've since listened to it twice more. "So Long June" was a standout and "American Dream" was, too, but something's odd about it, like it sounds too bright for its content. Is the song in a major key or something? Superfiction isnt as mellow as ADKOP but it is more mellow than the self titled, 13 ways, and year of the spider. That's accurate, but I can't agree or disagree yet about whether the new record is any heavier than ADKOP. Scooter said, before playing it, that "American Dream" will be the next single. That seemed like their best bet when I listened to the album earlier in the day. I'm disappointed they didn't play anything from 13 Ways to Bleed on Stage (obviously, then, they didn't touch the first album, either). Not only that, but instead of playing, oh, I don't know, "Just Got Wicked," they closed with "Snowblind," which was not a cover of the Sabbath classic, but an original leftover, a live version of which was meant to be included as a hidden song on the new record, but apparently isn't. WTF It's like, c'mon, guys, it'd be one thing if this were your own headlining show, but you're a support act. The fans aren't necessarily here to see you, so you'd better play as many of your biggest hits as possible to remind casual listeners who you are and try to convert new fans.
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Post by pen on Aug 1, 2011 1:58:54 GMT -5
Really? Nothing from 13 Ways? I'm shocked. That's actually my favorite Cold album.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Aug 1, 2011 2:18:14 GMT -5
Is the song in a major key or something? Eek. Very much so. The intro riff, verse, and chorus use the classic Pop-punk progression like it were a Blink-182 song slowed down. The pre-chorus leans more minor, and I didn't stick around for the bridge to find out once I heard the first chorus. Wow, I can't believe that Scooter once wrote the songs he did on 13 Ways To Bleed. Maybe that's why they don't play it anymore...it's practically a different band. Though "Wicked World" at least resembles it.
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Post by pen on Aug 1, 2011 2:19:45 GMT -5
I like how you said eek, like eek, a major key song! Run! Hide!
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Post by jvandyck87 on Aug 1, 2011 3:06:16 GMT -5
Well...major key can be good. But this was like glossy major-key with the adverse effect Nick was getting at.
"Sextape" is major key, and I love that song. Generally though, a major key takes away from what an active rock song is trying to go for. It's pretty tough to have a #1 hit on active rock that's in a major key, whether it's a ballad or a bruiser.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Aug 3, 2011 14:56:36 GMT -5
Maybe that's why they don't play it anymore...it's practically a different band. To be fair, it looks like they have been playing songs from that record this year, back on their headlining tour in the spring. I'm still baffled why they wouldn't throw Volbeat's audience a couple of bones by at least playing "Just Got Wicked" and "No One," if not "End of the World."
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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 4, 2011 1:19:20 GMT -5
I mean they have the same lead singer and drummer. It's not that different of a band. I think the loss of Terry Balsimo to Evanescence made them less heavy. But just listen to there first album before Terry Balsimo. It was heavy but it had quite a bit of mellow as well. "Ugly", "Strip Her Down" and "Insane". Also another early song "Check Please" was fairly mellow.
I mean this band has two gold albums. That's not too shabby. They are one of my Top 10 bands for a reason. They will never be on the level of Tool, A Perfect Circle, Nine Inch Nails, System Of A Down, Rage Against The Machine, or Zeppelin but they are a solid band. I will continue to support Cold.
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