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Post by drewaf9 on Apr 10, 2011 22:58:22 GMT -5
If it's a hot remix, I'm all for it getting to #1. if it's a lazy effort, then no. What do you consider Britney adding ooh and ahhhs and singing the 2nd verse and harmony on the bridge?
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Post by slayZ on Apr 10, 2011 22:59:36 GMT -5
Why is it such a big deal to you? The song got to #2 on the Hot 100 and #1 on Pop radio all on its own. It didn't need a remix, or a rent-a-rapper technique from the get go to score extra digital sales and shoot it up the charts. Regardless of whether or not the song is good, it's only ONE position away from being #1.
Personally, I love it when Pop artists collaborate together to make sweet music, and I don't think it's desperate at all. It's a business move, obviously, but to us fans, the fact that two of the biggest names in Pop are getting together to remix a song that's already a SMASH, it should be a big thing.
Now, rent-a-rapper situations are a different thing. While smart moves, more often than not, they end up ruining the original but yet do what the original version could have never been able to do, a la E.T
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Post by drewaf9 on Apr 10, 2011 23:00:06 GMT -5
why are people comparing ET to this? Completely different tactic
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Post by d.t.m on Apr 10, 2011 23:00:48 GMT -5
2 of the biggest music stars in the world teaming up means more sales and more money. This is a business.
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Post by repentyourself on Apr 10, 2011 23:01:13 GMT -5
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Post by d.t.m on Apr 10, 2011 23:02:22 GMT -5
Thank you. Didn't Jody Whatley also remix off her second album? I know she did Friends with Eric B and Rakim. People act as if Mariah either invented the remix or was the first major pop star to team up with a rapper. Who? Queen Mariah was the first. Did she invent the whistle register, too? :o
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Post by slayZ on Apr 10, 2011 23:04:33 GMT -5
why are people comparing ET to this? Completely different tactic Not really, no. Katy got Kanye to secure extra digital sales. We knew she'd get played, but the song was nowhere to be found or had any kind of buzz before she remixed it, thus making it a hit right after it was released on iTunes and scoring Katy the fourth #1 she and her team really wanted. S&M, while it's already a smash and didn't need a rapper to propel it, it certainly does need an extra push to secure the #1 position. Different situations, same tactic. A "remix" is just a way for the public to buy the song again, it doesn't matter how badly they try to spin it. I don't even think Rihanna and her team would WANT to spin it. They're all about getting her #1's, and hey, it's worked. Personally, I'm all up for it. I f**king LOVE the idea of it, actually. It means they're smart business people and that's what the industry is and SHOULD be about. If anything, I wish Britney had THIS kind of team.
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Post by d.t.m on Apr 10, 2011 23:07:24 GMT -5
My prediction last year of Rihanna landing 11-12 #1's by the end of 2011 will ring true.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 10, 2011 23:17:16 GMT -5
It's midnight. WHERE IS IT!?
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Post by antoinelk955 on Apr 11, 2011 0:34:21 GMT -5
Yeah Where Is It?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2011 0:52:49 GMT -5
why are people comparing ET to this? Completely different tactic Not really, no. Katy got Kanye to secure extra digital sales. We knew she'd get played, but the song was nowhere to be found or had any kind of buzz before she remixed it, thus making it a hit right after it was released on iTunes and scoring Katy the fourth #1 she and her team really wanted. S&M, while it's already a smash and didn't need a rapper to propel it, it certainly does need an extra push to secure the #1 position. Different situations, same tactic. A "remix" is just a way for the public to buy the song again, it doesn't matter how badly they try to spin it. I don't even think Rihanna and her team would WANT to spin it. They're all about getting her #1's, and hey, it's worked. Personally, I'm all up for it. I f**king LOVE the idea of it, actually. It means they're smart business people and that's what the industry is and SHOULD be about. If anything, I wish Britney had THIS kind of team. Who say's Katy needed Kanye? True the original wasn't high on Itunes, but it didn't go for adds yet(it was still a month away when the remix came out). So for all we know it could have started climbing once radio starting playing it. Plus the video could have boosted it... I'm not making excuses or anything but both Girls played a game, yet it sounds like your downplaying Katy's and upping Rihanna's. Katy went with the remix from the start, whereas Rihanna just grabbed it from her ass to get another #1(because it wasn't gonna get it without it). Neither girl is in the wrong, business is buisiness... Regardless after this I really hope this trend doesn't countinue for everybody's release. *This just in Beyonce has added Gwenyth Paltrow to "Girl"*
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 11, 2011 0:54:12 GMT -5
Why is it such a big deal to you? honestly? I'll tell you why, and i'll be more open than i've ever been before. Pulse has taken over my life. It's not the worst thing in the world, but it is what it is. Love this website, and i can't imagine not being apart of it. that being said... I don't want Mariah's record being broken. I don't want Madonna's top 10 record being broken. I want Katy's achievement from this era to stand alone. And i feel like Rihanna is a threat. Secretly, I like her stuff. Sure it isn't as good as her previous material, but i still get into it when it's played in public. But i need to grow up. It's stupid and childish to take this website (and artist's achievements) home with me and obsess over it. Sometimes I feel justified by every great Katy Perry HUGE update, and that somehow justifies my taste in music. Silly, I know. And when someone flops or is blocked, or makes a wrong move, I snicker and boast in the fact my personal fav of the moment is doing well. records are made to be broken. It's inevitable Madonna's top 10 record will be broken at some point, either by Rihanna or Lady Gaga. Yet i'm bitter about it. Does it matter? Of course not. Madonna's legacy is truly one-of-a-kind. No matter if it's broken or not, she'll always be the original queen. No one can take that title from her. So, from now on, and you all can quote me on this, I won't throw shade towards Rihanna or anyone else anymore. We're living in a great era. People say pop music is at a low point. I think the opposite. I think it's more exciting than ever. With iTunes and charts at my disposal, it's a fun time to follow everything. I take real joy posting pop bars every night, and it feels really good to be apart of the community. It's like my childhood dream...but now it's a reality. Sappy, yes, but fuck it. I can't control anything anyways, so it's no use being bitter towards her or anyone else on this board. So i'm gonna try and be neutral towards everyone. So, Rihanna...get that #1! Make it 3 from one album. I'll even buy the remix if i like it. there, spilled my guts. Don't hate on me.
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Post by bigbluenote on Apr 11, 2011 1:02:39 GMT -5
Why is it such a big deal to you? honestly? I'll tell you why, and i'll be more open than i've ever been before. Pulse has taken over my life. It's not the worst thing in the world, but it is what it is. Love this website, and i can't imagine not being apart of it. that being said... I don't want Mariah's record being broken. I don't want Madonna's top 10 record being broken. I want Katy's achievement from this era to stand alone. And i feel like Rihanna is a threat. Secretly, I like her stuff. Sure it isn't as good as her previous material, but i still get into it when it's played in public. But i need to grow up. It's stupid and childish to take this website (and artist's achievements) home with me and obsess over it. Sometimes I feel justified by every great Katy Perry HUGE update, and that somehow justifies my taste in music. Silly, I know. And when someone flops or is blocked, or makes a wrong move, I snicker and boast in the fact my personal fav of the moment is doing well. records are made to be broken. It's inevitable Madonna's top 10 record will be broken at some point, either by Rihanna or Lady Gaga. Yet i'm bitter about it. Does it matter? Of course not. Madonna's legacy is truly one-of-a-kind. No matter if it's broken or not, she'll always be the original queen. No one can take that title from her. So, from now on, and you all can quote me on this, I won't throw shade towards Rihanna or anyone else anymore. We're living in a great era. People say pop music is at a low point. I think the opposite. I think it's more exciting than ever. With iTunes and charts at my disposal, it's a fun time to follow everything. I take real joy posting pop bars every night, and it feels really good to be apart of the community. It's like my childhood dream...but now it's a reality. Sappy, yes, but f**k it. I can't control anything anyways, so it's no use being bitter towards her or anyone else on this board. So i'm gonna try and be neutral towards everyone. So, Rihanna...get that #1! Make it 3 from one album. I'll even buy the remix if i like it. there, spilled my guts. Don't hate on me. Can I nominate this post for "Post of the year"?!
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Post by jink on Apr 11, 2011 1:07:13 GMT -5
Why is it such a big deal to you? honestly? I'll tell you why, and i'll be more open than i've ever been before. Pulse has taken over my life. It's not the worst thing in the world, but it is what it is. Love this website, and i can't imagine not being apart of it. that being said... I don't want Mariah's record being broken. I don't want Madonna's top 10 record being broken. I want Katy's achievement from this era to stand alone. And i feel like Rihanna is a threat. Secretly, I like her stuff. Sure it isn't as good as her previous material, but i still get into it when it's played in public. But i need to grow up. It's stupid and childish to take this website (and artist's achievements) home with me and obsess over it. Sometimes I feel justified by every great Katy Perry HUGE update, and that somehow justifies my taste in music. Silly, I know. And when someone flops or is blocked, or makes a wrong move, I snicker and boast in the fact my personal fav of the moment is doing well. records are made to be broken. It's inevitable Madonna's top 10 record will be broken at some point, either by Rihanna or Lady Gaga. Yet i'm bitter about it. Does it matter? Of course not. Madonna's legacy is truly one-of-a-kind. No matter if it's broken or not, she'll always be the original queen. No one can take that title from her. So, from now on, and you all can quote me on this, I won't throw shade towards Rihanna or anyone else anymore. We're living in a great era. People say pop music is at a low point. I think the opposite. I think it's more exciting than ever. With iTunes and charts at my disposal, it's a fun time to follow everything. I take real joy posting pop bars every night, and it feels really good to be apart of the community. It's like my childhood dream...but now it's a reality. Sappy, yes, but f**k it. I can't control anything anyways, so it's no use being bitter towards her or anyone else on this board. So i'm gonna try and be neutral towards everyone. So, Rihanna...get that #1! Make it 3 from one album. I'll even buy the remix if i like it. there, spilled my guts. Don't hate on me. Oh, spree. I knew you had it in you.
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Post by Eqbk on Apr 11, 2011 1:10:14 GMT -5
From gimmeBRITNEY:
I would love for this to happen but I'm not going to get my hopes up.
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Post by David on Apr 11, 2011 1:22:31 GMT -5
What??!!
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Post by jink on Apr 11, 2011 1:23:41 GMT -5
Was gimmebritney the site that posted about The Singles Collection being released months before it was announced?
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Post by Junkiex on Apr 11, 2011 1:37:17 GMT -5
OMG! I'm about to pass out. Where is the remix!? I need to listen to this now! POP DEITY 3 1 RIHANNA S&M 12541 11407 1134 88.203 +76 spins +0.671 AI -86 bullet RIHTHMIC 3 4 RIHANNA S&M 5430 5399 31 28.935 +10 Spins - 0.096 AI +63 bullet URBAN 47 46 RIHANNA S&M 352 380 -28 2.005 HOT AC 34 31 RIHANNA S&M 397 323 74 1.706 +21 spins +0.144 AI +50 bullet
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 11, 2011 1:41:05 GMT -5
who's ahead of her on rhythmic?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 11, 2011 1:41:59 GMT -5
is she releasing this tonight? Why is everybody expecting this now?
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Post by d.t.m on Apr 11, 2011 1:49:36 GMT -5
Spree, I was about to you, but I get what you are saying. I love Rihanna, but I'll be damned if she breaks Whitney's 7 consecutive #1 streak!
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Post by Junkiex on Apr 11, 2011 1:55:27 GMT -5
who's ahead of her on rhythmic? 1 JEREMIH Down On Me f/50 Cent 2 CHRIS BROWN Look At Me Now 3 NICKI MINAJ Moment 4 Life f/Drak... 4 RIHANNA S&M
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Post by BritneyFan4Life on Apr 11, 2011 1:56:57 GMT -5
Was gimmebritney the site that posted about The Singles Collection being released months before it was announced? Yes, they also "confirmed" Britney was performing at the Grammys.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 11, 2011 2:03:27 GMT -5
Spree, I was about to you, but I get what you are saying. I love Rihanna, but I'll be damned if she breaks Whitney's 7 consecutive #1 streak! and what if she DOES break it? Then what? Does that mean Rihanna is better than Whitney? Cuz that's what you're getting at. I'm done with the stupid comparisons.
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Post by d.t.m on Apr 11, 2011 2:06:42 GMT -5
No. The point is we all say records are made to be broken, but deep down we want some of our faves to keep theirs intact.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 11, 2011 2:13:50 GMT -5
and i'm saying it's pointless to have that mindset, cuz you'll just wind up bitter and jaded. It's natural to have those feelings, but what benefit does that serve you? To talk shit about who is doing well and possibly breaking those records? Not pointing out you, but everyone in general. There is so much bitterness between rivaling divas on this board. I'm done with it.
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Post by d.t.m on Apr 11, 2011 2:21:51 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with rooting for a fan and wanting to preserve their various achievements and distinctions in history books. True, sometimes those fan wants sometimes eclipses those of the actual artist, but that's just the way it is.
You think this is bad? I lurked when the Mariah/JLO divawars almost destroyed PMB and started posting thereafter. I heard posters were even banned for bashing Mariah!
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Post by musicissalvation on Apr 11, 2011 2:24:14 GMT -5
And to think that I doubted IDJ!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 11, 2011 2:36:10 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with rooting for a fan and wanting to preserve their various achievements and distinctions in history books. no, of course not. It's human nature. I'm just done with portraying this idea that MY fav is better than all the rest and everyone else needs to sit down and STFU. I'm just gonna let the pop scene unfold itself and whatever happens...it is what it is. if Rihanna breaks Madonna's top 10 record, does that mean anything? Absolutely not! looking back, i was really bitter and jaded when Mariah broke Madonna's #1 record. But now looking back, does Mariah's achievement mean anything to Madonna's legacy whatsoever? I don't think anyone really cares. It's just numbers. I'm finally realizing that. not trying to argue, btw, just having good conversation. :)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2011 2:41:26 GMT -5
spree's posts are I'm still balancing in my mind whether I want the Rihmix of this to go #1 or for Katy to get more weeks at #1. Whatever happens I'll be fine though, since usually a song I don't like will eat up a million weeks at #1 anyway; and I like both this and E.T., so either being #1 is good for me. ;)
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