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Post by darko95 on Jun 19, 2011 2:14:33 GMT -5
I think she should head back to the Confessions sound. I think that album was ahead of its time.
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Post by floridagrl on Jun 19, 2011 7:04:24 GMT -5
This is a few days late. I haven't had much time to search for news. Great article, however. Here’s What Madonna Needs To do For Her Next Album To Be A Hit 6/15/11 4:30 pm ET by John MitchellMadonna’s manager, Guy Oseary, took to Twitter yesterday to announce that the Queen of Pop would be hitting the studio next month to begin work on her twelfth studio album – her first since 2008’s Hard Candy. “Madonna goes into the recording studio next month to begin work on new album,” he wrote. Soon after, a fan asked who M would be hitting the studio with, and Oseary responded, saying, “She has a good idea on which producers she will be working with.” He did not elaborate further. Which got us thinking about what we’d like to hear from the pop trendsetter who’s done it all. More than 28 years into her record shattering career, Madonna really doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone – she’s the top-selling female artist ever, has had more top ten hits than Elvis (or anyone else, alive or dead) and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2008. But with Lady Gaga hotter on her heels than any other diva who’s made a play for her throne, Madge does have a reason to put out a killer album. As longtime fans, we know what has and hasn’t worked for Madonna over the years. Read on for our thought on how she should approach her next record. Stay Away From “Hot” Producers Dr. Luke has worked wonders for Britney Spears (“Till The World Ends”) and Katy Perry (“Teenage Dream”). RedOne and Lady Gaga have the kind of connection that produces insta-classics like “Bad Romance.” Max Martin has become Pink’s go-to guy for recent hits like “Raise Your Glass.” Madonna should stay away from all of these people. Here’s why: It didn’t really work last time. On Hard Candy, Madonna collaborated with Timbaland, Justin Timberlake, Danja and Pharrell Williams. The results were mostly fine – we’re actually partial to her tunes with Williams, especially “Incredible” and “The Beat Goes On” – and she scored her biggest hit in years with the Timberlake jam “4 Minutes.” But her previous set, Confessions on a Dance Floor, was widely considered a return to form, and, frankly, running to of-the-moment producers in an attempt to score some easy hits felt cheap and a little desperate coming from one of the most forward-thinking minds in pop, particularly on the heels of her best album in years. Make Some Real Dance Music In the late-90s and early aughts, Madonna did something that no other pop star could do: She brought real dance music to America, and America liked it. She eschewed the conventions of pop music at the time, which was dominated by the bubblegum thump of early Spears and NSYNC, and opted instead to work with underground producers like William Orbit and Mirwais Ahmadzai to introduce electronic and house sounds that were completely foreign to domestic radio. She was rewarded with career-best reviews, reinvigorated album sales and multiple Grammy Awards for her effort. With that in mind, we suggest she make a few phone calls. A good place to start would be with the Swedish trio Swedish House Mafia – Steve Angello, Sebastian Ingrosso and Axwell. With little mainstream fanfare, their latest single “Save the World” has racked up over 12 million views on YouTube. Axwell sits on DJMag’s list of the top ten DJ’s in the world. Others to consider from that same listing: Tiesto and Armin Van Buuren, both of whom specialize in the kind of progressive trance and house music that gets crowds moving (and M does have that massive 360, touring-recording deal with Live Nation to deliver on). What we’re saying is, the best Madonna music has been born from like-minded collaboration with lesser-known dance producers she is herself a fan of, not from current production giants looking to throw their signature beats at the wall to see what sticks. Write About Something The weirdest thing about Hard Candy was the almost regressive nature of some of the lyrics. Music, Ray of Light and Confessions on a Dance Floor were buoyed by thoughtful, reflective lyrics about love, life and spirituality, while a track on Hard Candy had the then-49-year-old singer cooing the line “see my booty get down.” Yes, her signature theme – which we’d boil down to the universal catharsis and release only the dance floor can provide – was present on all these albums, but it wasn’t as smartly crafted on Candy as it was on her past efforts. Lyrically, decades-old albums like Erotica and Like a Prayer felt like more mature works. Since her last album, Madonna has been through a lot, including an adoption, divorce and her return to New York. She’s also the only pop star in the world who can address what it’s like to be a sex symbol aging in full view of the public. Her age has led some pop critics to write her off entirely. Tell us what it feels like to have people turn their backs on you despite the fact that your hit-making instincts and songwriting chops are as sharp as ever, Madonna. We’re all ears! newsroom.mtv.com/2011/06/15/madonna-new-album/Everybody is excited The Queen is making new music.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Jun 19, 2011 7:12:59 GMT -5
^^ all good points. I would forget about Twitter and Facebook, as that is kinda below her. But I would take advantage of the other two. Well seeing as they are two of the biggest social networking sites in the world (if not the biggest), I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that they will be utilised.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Jun 19, 2011 7:53:47 GMT -5
Good article floridagrl. Thanks. Don't know if I agree with all of it. She just needs to stick with her own intuition and it will amaze.
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Post by chartfreak on Jun 19, 2011 9:11:02 GMT -5
Would love if she worked with these guys: A good place to start would be with the Swedish trio Swedish House Mafia – Steve Angello, Sebastian Ingrosso and Axwell. With little mainstream fanfare, their latest single “Save the World” has racked up over 12 million views on YouTube. Axwell sits on DJMag’s list of the top ten DJ’s in the world. Others to consider from that same listing: Tiesto and Armin Van Buuren,
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2011 10:06:49 GMT -5
I find it kind of amusing that that writer wants her to work with relatively unknown "underground" dance producers and then goes on to name someone like Tiesto.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Jun 19, 2011 11:28:31 GMT -5
I don't think I'd appreciate her working with people like that... dance music is a pretty broad phrase and I don't fancy any euro trash.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 19, 2011 14:07:06 GMT -5
Well, Tiesto isn't an omnipresent producer of U.S. radio hits- that's probably what the writer meant.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jun 19, 2011 14:41:56 GMT -5
Well, Tiesto isn't an omnipresent producer of U.S. radio hits- that's probably what the writer meant. There was that one song which did fairly well on radio with a bunch of random rappers on it. I would have said he was truly unknown and underground 11-12 years ago. I saw a big sign on the window for Tiesto's new mixed compilation at A|X Armani Exchange last week when I was at the mall--not so underground I guess, but the general public at large doesn't shop at that store. I occasionally see Tiesto's compilations and albums for sale at Target and Best Buy. I remember when you had to go to a big store like Tower Records, Virgin, etc. to get those. I think that Madonna should steer clear of Tiesto as well. If she must work with him, it should just be as a remixer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2011 14:46:19 GMT -5
Well, Tiesto isn't an omnipresent producer of U.S. radio hits- that's probably what the writer meant. He's much more well known than producers like William Orbit and Mirwais were when she decided to work with them. They were foreign to US audiences and underground producers even in Europe. Tiesto is a club legend. Anyone who knows dance music or goes clubbing knows who Tiesto is, and he's worked with a whole bunch of pop stars over the years already. I think the writer wants Madonna working with underground dance producers but doesn't really know any, so they started listing producers like Tiesto and Armin van Buuren like they fit the bill when they are incredibly well known dance producers.
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Post by josh on Jun 19, 2011 23:14:20 GMT -5
Has Mirwais had any high-profile gigs since American Life?
I would have thought other artists would have been pounding his door down to work with him after the success of the Music project, but I've never heard of him working with anyone else.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jun 20, 2011 0:05:13 GMT -5
Has Mirwais had any high-profile gigs since American Life? I would have thought other artists would have been pounding his door down to work with him after the success of the Music project, but I've never heard of him working with anyone else. He has done very little since then. He did produce a couple of songs for Fischerspooner's 2005 album. And then he did a project called YAS released in 2009. Most of the songs are in Arabic. In terms of production, he worked on several songs on Uffie's last album, released a year ago. Here's one of the YAS ones: Here's one of the Uffie ones:
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 20, 2011 14:45:24 GMT -5
^What track was a U.S. radio hit that had rappers on it? I agree that in clubland and in the DJ world, he is very known and even legendary.
I hope she goes for the more under-the-radar collaborators.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 14:49:59 GMT -5
^What track was a U.S. radio hit that had rappers on it? "Feel It" by Three 6 Mafia featuring Flo Rida and Sean Kingston It was a Top 50 CHR/Pop hit about a year and a half ago.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 20, 2011 21:56:40 GMT -5
^Still, not success comparable to that enjoyed by Timbaland, Timberlake, Neptunes, etc. I do know that I wouldn't want to hear a Madonna track sounding like that!
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jun 20, 2011 23:32:58 GMT -5
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jun 21, 2011 11:12:27 GMT -5
she's coming!!!!! :o
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Post by floridagrl on Jun 21, 2011 12:30:03 GMT -5
She just needs to stick with her own intuition and it will amaze. She will, Jumpers. She always does.
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Post by floridagrl on Jun 21, 2011 12:30:50 GMT -5
CAN'T WAIT!!!!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jun 22, 2011 1:22:58 GMT -5
new rumored single in October. Take it with a grain of salt, but there you have it. The ball is definitely rolling at this point.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Jun 22, 2011 7:28:26 GMT -5
^ if this is true, her album should be out before the holidays. I hope so! Hung Up came out in october and COADF was released in November. Correct? Wow a suposed positive buzz movie and album out at the same time. That's probably why I read she is not going to be an active part in promoting the film. Leave that to the Weinstein Co and she can promote her album. Double whammy!
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Post by chartfreak on Jun 22, 2011 9:07:59 GMT -5
I would be shocked if we had new music in October already, but I"ll take it, but I would rather her release in the 1st Quarter of 2012. Oh well.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 22, 2011 9:45:57 GMT -5
Just give us something MADONNA worthy, Ms. Ciccone.
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Post by PDC1987 on Jun 22, 2011 11:37:59 GMT -5
Oh yes, because Madonna is so much worse than... Meat Loaf, Bonnie Tyler, and Celine Dion. LOLZ. It's amazing how a person's hatred of someone can turn them in to an utter idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 12:51:40 GMT -5
Steinman is known for his theatrical compositions and the bombastic vocal performances that accompany them. If anyone was criticizing the idea of Madonna singing one of his songs, it would most likely be because she is not known for having a huge voice (and not because of the quality of her work).
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Post by brianpk80 on Jun 22, 2011 15:53:48 GMT -5
I loved the article above by John Mitchell. I'd add that it's more important Madonna works with skilled -songwriters- rather than skilled producers.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 22, 2011 20:43:20 GMT -5
Madonna is not going to have a new album out this year.
THINK, people.
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Post by When I Ruled the World on Jun 22, 2011 21:20:08 GMT -5
I can't wait for her return.
I think it was smart for her to wait awhile after "Hard Candy", which really only had 2 excellent songs ('4 Minutes' and 'Voices').
She is still one of my faves of all time... if she doesn't want to get deep (LAP or ROL) then she needs another "Music" rather than "Hard Candy".
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jun 23, 2011 4:14:40 GMT -5
i personally think Hard Candy had some excellent songs:
Give It 2 Me Heartbeat Miles Away She's Not Me Beat Goes On Devil Wouldn't Recognize You Voices
i think the album is much stronger than what people give her credit for. I still enjoy it.
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Post by brianpk80 on Jun 23, 2011 5:22:32 GMT -5
Agreed. Hard Candy was good. It wasn't risky or career defining but it was an album I could put on and listen to from start to finish without skipping often. No song is "amazing" but they're pretty much all very good.
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