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Post by marv1978 on Mar 2, 2011 9:08:58 GMT -5
This song is going for adds at hot ac and chr/pop here in a few weeks and the video will be out. They sure don't want to not go for the rock audience but the label knows it's core for hot ac and decent on chr still. I think it will do better on the pop side as they have had so many crossovers i think rock might not think it's cool like when Matchbox 20 put out 'If you're Gone" and rock outcasted them lol.
My predictions: Hot AC- #6 CHR/Pop- #19
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Post by Devin on Mar 2, 2011 14:06:00 GMT -5
I don't think pop and HAC are going to be so gracious about this song:
Predictions: Hot AC - #8 CHR - #31
The name 3 Doors Down is probably what will help them the most.
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Post by atlantaboy on Mar 3, 2011 17:10:58 GMT -5
I really don't think this is gonna do anything at Hot AC or CHR (maybe the high 20s/low 30s on HAC I guess)
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Post by rockmaniac on Mar 15, 2011 8:07:41 GMT -5
album's been pushed back to May 17 (same day as Seether's album)
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 15, 2011 8:47:45 GMT -5
Not terribly surprised considering the lack of promotion (and since the same thing happened three years ago for the self-titled album). Though, I wish it could have been May 3rd instead. Could have given myself a present a day early. :(
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Post by lockebox on Mar 15, 2011 9:47:15 GMT -5
I had a feeling either Foo Fighters or 3 Doors Down was gonna get delayed. That's the end of that battle.
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Post by rockmaniac on Mar 15, 2011 9:48:36 GMT -5
I had a feeling either Foo Fighters or 3 Doors Down was gonna get delayed. That's the end of that battle. but a new battle begin (3DD vs Seether)
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Post by lockebox on Mar 15, 2011 9:50:17 GMT -5
Well, I don't think 3 Doors Down will get #1 now. Seether would do well to get top 5.
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 15, 2011 9:54:42 GMT -5
Well, I don't think 3 Doors Down will get #1 now. Seether would do well to get top 5. The stupid effin single couldn't even reach top 10. *grumbles*
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Post by pen on Mar 15, 2011 11:25:14 GMT -5
3 Doors Down needs to rethink their strategy. Turn the tables again and get raw and hard, cause appealing to the pop crowd doesn't seem to be working anymore for them.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 15, 2011 11:35:54 GMT -5
Hopefully there will be harder songs on the album. Also, pushing the album date back isn't really gonna help, I think.
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 15, 2011 11:40:47 GMT -5
3 Doors Down needs to rethink their strategy. Turn the tables again and get raw and hard, cause appealing to the pop crowd doesn't seem to be working anymore for them. Agreed. The current state of HAC/Chr is not conducive for rock crossovers.
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Post by atlantaboy on Mar 15, 2011 20:47:18 GMT -5
3 Doors Down needs to rethink their strategy. Turn the tables again and get raw and hard, cause appealing to the pop crowd doesn't seem to be working anymore for them. This already is their strategy (according to interviews) - not sure how "raw and hard" the new stuff is, but it's definitely supposed to be steering away from pop
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Post by pen on Mar 15, 2011 20:50:12 GMT -5
3 Doors Down needs to rethink their strategy. Turn the tables again and get raw and hard, cause appealing to the pop crowd doesn't seem to be working anymore for them. This already is their strategy (according to interviews) - not sure how "raw and hard" the new stuff is, but it's definitely supposed to be steering away from pop They haven't started executing it if it is.
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Post by atlantaboy on Mar 15, 2011 21:08:32 GMT -5
^Not sure if you mean they should go back to Duck And Run-type stuff, or if you mean they should harden their sound to the Skillet, Shinedown-type level
I know that someone posted a quote from the lead guy (Brad I think...) saying that there would be "no more lovey-dovey stuff" or something like that
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 15, 2011 22:48:19 GMT -5
^^^
I do remember Brad saying that. He said something to the effect of not doing any 'soul-searching' type songs either.
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Post by lockebox on Mar 16, 2011 17:47:32 GMT -5
^Not sure if you mean they should go back to Duck And Run-type stuff I was about to come in here and say "Give me some Duck and Run". Hell, even "Train" like-stuff will do. I like this song, but it's just too "same old, same old" to really blow me away.
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Post by marv1978 on Mar 17, 2011 9:07:24 GMT -5
Why does it always seem like a band has to harden their sound to be cool. I am a musician and it takes no more talent to play something heavy than it does something lighter lol. Hell "stairway To heaven" is hard rock to me, not anymore i guess. Look at the bands that have made rock what it is over the years and yes TRENDS change but the princaples behind what is rock and pop have been blurred for so long, everythings misclassified.
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers Eric Clapton Rush Van Halen U2 Led Zepplin Guess Who Bad Company Fleetwood Mac ZZ Top Bruce Springsteen Genesis Def Leppard Lynard Skynard Steve Miller Band Aerosmith Rolling Stones Doors Beatles ELO Ozzy John Mellencamp Rod Stewart The Cars Elton John The Who The Eagles Queen and many more...but these bands that are the core of today's Classic ROCK are not considered ROCK now. I think 3 Doors down, Matchbox Twenty are 2 bands that almost all men/women who grew up in 70s,80s and remeber what ROCK was still think these are ROCK bands and are arguably 2 of the only bands carrying the torch of singer/songwriter fill up arena type rock with a good ear for melody, C'mon Led Zepplin did "Fool In The Rain" & "All Of My Love" both soft songs, its ok to show your sensitive side or if u claim u haven't got one, ur fake!
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Post by pen on Mar 17, 2011 9:17:39 GMT -5
Yeah, they need to go hard again. More like the first and second album, get a little more rough around the edges.
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 17, 2011 9:20:13 GMT -5
Another Away From the Sun-like album would be good and certainly doable. I don't think they'd ever go back to the sound off The Better Life completely.
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Post by pen on Mar 17, 2011 9:20:43 GMT -5
That's a shame because that's still their best-selling album I believe.
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 17, 2011 9:22:39 GMT -5
That's a shame because that's still their best-selling album I believe. To be fair, that was back when people bought albums. Edit - I just checked the stats - about 6 million sold and you are correct. Away From the Sun has sold 4 million.
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Post by singingsparrow on Mar 17, 2011 11:24:58 GMT -5
Well, I don't think 3 Doors Down will get #1 now. Seether would do well to get top 5. The stupid effin single couldn't even reach top 10. *grumbles* But I predicted that right off the bat! ;) Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by singingsparrow on Mar 17, 2011 11:28:22 GMT -5
Yeah, they need to go hard again. More like the first and second album, get a little more rough around the edges. I consider "Away From The Sun" their best, but also their (overall) softest album to date as far as production is concerned. Some of the ballads on the record, however, just feel heavier due to their introspective depth and emotional equity. The title track, for instance, sounds quite soft in the introduction and verses, but the emotion Arnold conveys in his vocals gives a sort of urgency to the song that reaches a cathartic point in the chorus, where the guitars also rev up. Materially, I feel it explains why "Away From The Sun" isn't universally agreed to be their softest, most accessible, album to date. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 17, 2011 14:40:52 GMT -5
The stupid effin single couldn't even reach top 10. *grumbles* But I predicted that right off the bat! ;) Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus So? It's not like I made a peak prediction. All I have to say is that thank god for the heritage rock addition so it doesn't look like a complete flop on that chart that counts. And heck, maybe things could pick up with the video. (Does that happen on Active, or is that a Hot AC thing?)
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Post by rockmaniac on Mar 17, 2011 14:46:46 GMT -5
But I predicted that right off the bat! ;) Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus So? It's not like I made a peak prediction. All I have to say is that thank god for the heritage rock addition so it doesn't look like a complete flop on that chart that counts. And heck, maybe things could pick up with the video. (Does that happen on Active, or is that a Hot AC thing?) little bit of both
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Post by pen on Mar 17, 2011 22:29:36 GMT -5
That's a shame because that's still their best-selling album I believe. To be fair, that was back when people bought albums. +
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 17, 2011 22:37:02 GMT -5
^Nice.
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Post by HereIsGone on Mar 17, 2011 23:10:06 GMT -5
I lol'd. Well done, sir.
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Post by Devin on Mar 19, 2011 13:59:31 GMT -5
Is it just me or does anyone else hear Brad's voice differently than 3 Doors Downs' previous work. His voice sounds deeper and older.
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