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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 27, 2011 18:56:04 GMT -5
Nobody said they sound exactly the same. I've implied that this is the closest we've had to Nirvana since the band. Check out a live show, you'll see what I mean. And the sound is similar in many areas too.
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Post by lockebox on Jun 27, 2011 19:06:50 GMT -5
I've implied that this is the closest we've had to Nirvana since the band. You've obviously never heard of Bush or Silverchair then?
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 27, 2011 19:12:30 GMT -5
You're talking to the guy who had barely heard of Oasis and thinks a band writing "Soon" on their website is a major development on an upcoming album.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 27, 2011 22:39:36 GMT -5
Loved Silverchair for a while. Bush was watered down (I know, gross image). I meant since grunge bands started disappearing. This band seems to be the first of its era to rely heavily on that sound.
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Post by pen on Jun 28, 2011 0:49:46 GMT -5
Violent Soho. Also Seether.
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Post by Devin on Jun 28, 2011 9:49:11 GMT -5
Wouldn't exactly say Seether is grunge. There are also Alt. Metal and Post-grunge elements that make up their sound. I would totally agree that Violent Soho are grungethough. Thanks for reminding me of them.
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Post by pen on Jun 28, 2011 12:45:33 GMT -5
Wouldn't exactly say Seether is grunge. Missing the point.
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Post by Devin on Jun 28, 2011 16:36:07 GMT -5
Wouldn't exactly say Seether is grunge. Missing the point. Oh right, they lean on grunge, I can agree there.
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Post by lockebox on Jun 28, 2011 16:50:32 GMT -5
Violent Soho. Also Seether. Yeah, I was gonna mention those two along with Puddle of Mudd if Artie rejected the Bush/Silverchair claims... which he did. Although, Puddle of Mudd are probably more influenced by Alice in Chains, I find their song structuring closer to Nirvana. Violent Soho came across as highly derivative to me. I find myself going back to "Nevermind" every time I hear them. Wouldn't exactly say Seether is grunge. There are also Alt. Metal and Post-grunge elements that make up their sound. I would totally agree that Violent Soho are grungethough. Thanks for reminding me of them. I think you're getting confused between the "grunge" & "post-grunge" tags. Seether are post-grunge to the core. Obviously Violent Soho are not "grunge."
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 29, 2011 16:54:14 GMT -5
There are also Alt. Metal and Post-grunge elements that make up their sound. Post-grunge elements...
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Post by Gold Soundz on Jul 6, 2011 23:25:55 GMT -5
Does anyone else besides me really despise the "Oooh oooh oooh oooh aaah aaah aaah aaah" part and really think it ruins the song? Hell no! Frank Black (Pixies) move straight up. And there would be no Nirvana or Weezer or Alt Rock without the Pixies...both Kurt and Rivers always talked about how much they were influenced by them, and it's so obvious. The crunchy guitars and Alt rock bass-lines as we know them came from the Pixies in the 80's. IMHO these guys have always emulated other artists - I didn't even like "Ain't No Rest For The Wicked," but this song is SICK. I thought these guys were douche bags until I heard this on the radio today, and it's a GREAT homage to the Pixies.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Aug 9, 2011 11:21:16 GMT -5
18 19 CAGE THE ELEPHANT Around My Head 651 734 -83 1.88 So much for another Top 10.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Aug 9, 2011 13:58:10 GMT -5
Two weeks of negative bullets. I'm pissed this won't even come close to matching "Shake Me Down." This should've at least gone Top 10, if not Top 5.
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Post by Ron57 on Aug 9, 2011 15:06:32 GMT -5
My favorite was Always Something, along with Indy Kidz. I barely remember what this one sounds like, should probably give it a listen.
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Post by The Party Captain on Aug 10, 2011 0:07:00 GMT -5
Does anyone else besides me really despise the "Oooh oooh oooh oooh aaah aaah aaah aaah" part and really think it ruins the song? Hell no! Frank Black (Pixies) move straight up. And there would be no Nirvana or Weezer or Alt Rock without the Pixies...both Kurt and Rivers always talked about how much they were influenced by them, and it's so obvious. The crunchy guitars and Alt rock bass-lines as we know them came from the Pixies in the 80's. I can understand Nirvana, but Weezer really just combined the soft/loud dynamic contrast with doo wop melodies. No matter what the critics say, the Pixies didn't invent the soft/loud trick. They just weren't subtle about it at all. The Pixies didn't trademark crunchy guitars or bass-lines, either. Punk rock. Led Zeppelin and the Stones. Blues. Spirituals. Cavemen beating on sticks. Do we really wanna go down that path? What about the OOH-CHA-OOH-OOH-CHA drum parts? That's quite creative. The chorus of "Gigantic" is the same word over and over. That's total punk rock. This originality argument is really quite silly. There's 12 notes on a scale. Only seven of 'em can be counted on to sound decent in standard Western keys. Most pop hits have three or four chords. I think it's annoying when people have a hard-on for a certain band and then, question later bands that sound like them. Hell, if AC/DC is right and rock and roll ain't gonna die, it's going to be regurgitated. I happen to like Cage the Elephant. Do I think they're reinventing the wheel. No, but at least I can enjoy them now in their prime, unlike the Pixies.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Aug 10, 2011 15:45:14 GMT -5
I actually agree with Artie, to a point. Bands like Seether and Puddle of Mudd may adopt some superficial elements of the grunge sound, but I feel that Cage The Elephant are the first band in a while to truly capture the spirit of the grunge era (or even the Pixies for that matter). I didn't like this song when I first heard it (mostly due to the "ooh ooh ahh ahh" part), but it's grown on me considerably. That said, I'm not surprised that this has done considerably worse than their other singles.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Aug 10, 2011 17:43:07 GMT -5
I think my prediction that this song would be a relative bust at radio is looking pretty solid now.
18 20 CAGE THE ELEPHANT Around My Head 632 732 -100 1.819
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Aug 12, 2011 0:40:43 GMT -5
Bands like Seether and Puddle of Mudd may adopt some superficial elements of the grunge sound, but I feel that Cage The Elephant are the first band in a while to truly capture the spirit of the grunge era (or even the Pixies for that matter). I didn't like this song when I first heard it (mostly due to the "ooh ooh ahh ahh" part), but it's grown on me considerably. I agree with all of this.
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