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Post by pen on Apr 5, 2011 17:15:28 GMT -5
Inbetween these two songs, all I can say is that I hope Roadrunner has not ruined this band.
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Post by lockebox on Apr 5, 2011 17:18:57 GMT -5
Well, Roadrunners are the label who signed them originally, so they can never really ruin them, as they're the ones who brought them to a mass audience in the first place.
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Post by pen on Apr 5, 2011 17:20:05 GMT -5
Well, Roadrunners are the label who signed them originally, so they can never really ruin them, as they're the ones who brought them to a mass audience in the first place. That doesn't make any sense. If the band has not become as successful as the label wants and makes them water down their lyrics and sound to get more exposure, then the label has ruined them, regardless of how long the band's been with them.
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Post by lockebox on Apr 5, 2011 17:25:02 GMT -5
Well, Roadrunners are the label who signed them originally, so they can never really ruin them, as they're the ones who brought them to a mass audience in the first place. That doesn't make any sense. If the band has not become as successful as the label wants and makes them water down their lyrics and sound to get more exposure, then the label has ruined them, regardless of how long the band's been with them. True, I'm just saying thank you to Roadrunners for bringing us Black Stone Cherry haha. They'd be more commercialized over at Atlantic or Universal, for sure. I don't think they could really ruin this band. They don't come across as a band that would ever "sell-out", to me.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 5, 2011 18:59:53 GMT -5
That doesn't make any sense. If the band has not become as successful as the label wants and makes them water down their lyrics and sound to get more exposure, then the label has ruined them, regardless of how long the band's been with them. True, I'm just saying thank you to Roadrunners for bringing us Black Stone Cherry haha. They'd be more commercialized over at Atlantic or Universal, for sure. I don't think they could really ruin this band. They don't come across as a band that would ever "sell-out", to me. Atlantic released three albums from Porcupine Tree in the last 9 years, all of which sounded pretty darn progressive. I think they're better about letting artists be themselves than most major labels.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Apr 17, 2011 17:47:05 GMT -5
Top 20 on Active:
26 20 BLACK STONE CHERRY White Trash Millionaire 529 449 80 0.918
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Post by themule on Apr 19, 2011 12:49:09 GMT -5
Unless they get a bump, looks like this could be short lived. Number of plays peaked at 529 and is now at 519.
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Post by rockmaniac on Apr 25, 2011 16:48:50 GMT -5
cover art tracklist 1) White Trash Millionaire 2) Killing Floor 3) In My Blood 4) Such A Shame 5) Won't Let Go 6) Blame It On The Boom Boom 7) Like I Roll 8) Can't You See 9) Let Me See You Shake 10) Stay 11) Change 12) All I’m Dreamin' Of
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Post by lockebox on Apr 25, 2011 17:18:16 GMT -5
Hot Safetysuit & Deftones remakes in at #10 & 11.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Apr 25, 2011 17:51:21 GMT -5
#11 - Hot Taylor Swift remake?
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Post by rockmaniac on May 7, 2011 19:39:19 GMT -5
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Post by rockmaniac on May 31, 2011 14:21:41 GMT -5
top 5 on iTunes Rock album chart top 20 iTunes overall
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Post by mcbrearty on May 31, 2011 18:44:36 GMT -5
Hmm Chad Kroeger barely got away with the straightened and shortened hair, not sure Mr. Robertson pulls it off.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 1, 2011 17:23:53 GMT -5
I'd go with "Such a Shame" for single #2, although they'll probably go with "Let Me See You Shake."
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 4, 2011 16:18:07 GMT -5
Never thought much of this band, though "Lonely Train" is the only song of theirs I can still remember. Just heard this on the radio the other day and even I could immediately spot this is a shallow, calculated attempt at mainstream success and that "Lonely Train" at least had more integrity than this.
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Post by themule on Jul 8, 2011 14:45:51 GMT -5
Sadly, seems like they are getting bad career advice. They are trying to sound like every other jock rock band like Hinder, Adelita's Way, Saving Abel, and any number of other bands that sound exactly alike. When they started they had a unique sound and they built a following, especially in Europe and UK. These days you make a living by selling concert tickets and merchandise. They seem to have lost sight of that and it shows in the music. Can only hope they find their way back before they are forgotten.
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Post by pen on Jul 8, 2011 23:56:19 GMT -5
To be fair to BSC, most of this album is not like White Trash.
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Post by lockebox on Jul 10, 2011 19:17:15 GMT -5
Sadly, seems like they are getting bad career advice. They are trying to sound like every other jock rock band like Hinder, Adelita's Way, Saving Abel, and any number of other bands that sound exactly alike. When they started they had a unique sound and they built a following, especially in Europe and UK. These days you make a living by selling concert tickets and merchandise. They seem to have lost sight of that and it shows in the music. Can only hope they find their way back before they are forgotten. I don't get all the hate for "White Trash Millionaire." Just 'cause he says "kiss my ass" doesn't make it cock-rock. Comparing them to Hinder is ridiculous. The whole album is a great big slice of southern fried hard rock. Any song would be fine as the next single by me, but as I've said, "Such a Shame" would really get the people who say they've turned cock-rock back on their side.
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Post by American Idiot on Jul 10, 2011 19:24:38 GMT -5
Honestly, I think it's just people are judging by the title. I'm agreeing as well. The album is extremely far from anything cock-rock related.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 10, 2011 22:49:54 GMT -5
I think you guys are missing the point a little. A lot of it I think is Howard Benson's production style which has a way of streamlining any band he works with. Papa Roach, Saliva, and Art Of Dying are among other examples of bands he started producing in the midst of their careers...and the results have always been more watered down and more anonymous sounding than the artists' previous albums.
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Post by pen on Jul 10, 2011 23:00:19 GMT -5
I think you guys are missing the point a little. A lot of it I think is Howard Benson's production style which has a way of streamlining any band he works with. Papa Roach, Saliva, and Art Of Dying are among other examples of bands he started producing in the midst of their careers...and the results have always been more watered down and more anonymous sounding than the artists' previous albums. Benson isn't always like that though. For example, you mention Papa Roach: he's responsible for their two best albums.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 10, 2011 23:18:18 GMT -5
That is, if you have bad inaccurate taste in Papa Roach.
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Post by pen on Jul 11, 2011 0:24:18 GMT -5
That is, if you have bad inaccurate taste in Papa Roach. If you're calling Getting Away With Murder and The Paramour Sessions bad, then we're gonna have a good old fashioned bloodbath on our hands.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 11, 2011 2:26:08 GMT -5
That is indeed what I am doing. Though the song Getting Away With Murder is very good.
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Post by pen on Jul 11, 2011 3:39:59 GMT -5
That is indeed what I am doing. Though the song Getting Away With Murder is very good. Well let's start the insanity. You want to lose your arms or your legs?
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Post by arashinclowery13 on Jul 11, 2011 6:32:13 GMT -5
Killing Floor is a badd ass song. Hope it will be the next single
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 11, 2011 7:53:28 GMT -5
Well let's start the insanity. You want to lose your arms or your legs? I have a comeback for this, but it's lewd enough that I don't wanna lose my cred on here, yanno? I'll just say that "Scars" forever tainted my view of them. And "Forever" further forevered it. :)
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Post by pen on Jul 11, 2011 11:59:16 GMT -5
That sad to hear, because both are great songs, as overplayed as they are.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 11, 2011 12:05:13 GMT -5
I hated "Scars" before it got played on the radio once. I don't hate "Forever", I just find it sorta bland. And I love some ballads and prettier/lighter music in general so it's not that they're not heavy. I just find Papa Roach corny these days. Everything they do seems calculated. Their heavy songs, their ballads, their middle of the road rockers - nothing speaks to me as them being themselves for some reason. And I like diversity so it's not that I need them to pigeonhole themselves. They just always come across as forced and as I said before calculated, especially from GAWM onward. And it's hard to support objectively. I just don't really feel the anger in their angry songs or the pain in their painful songs. I feel nothing but professionalism when I hear them, which wasn't the case on songs like "Broken Home", "Between Angels & Insects", and "Time And Time Again". Those I felt it. Maybe just cuz I was younger? I think it's because they were better songs though.
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Post by pen on Jul 11, 2011 12:17:19 GMT -5
I just felt like from GAYM onward that they took more of a punkified approach, which I could hear traces of on LHT. Maybe it's calculated, maybe it's not. I've always respected that Papa Roach could float in and out of different genres, because they also end up touring with anyone they possibly can. They can go from Dead Poetic to Guns 'N' Roses without batting an eye, and be pleasant to every band they work with. I've never heard any band say a bad thing about them. I do think that influence from Buckcherry and company probably rubbed off on them and resulted in Metamorphosis, which was easily their worst album and degrees below the quality of GAWM and TPS.
I just really disagree with you man. Infest was good but some of those songs were pretty noticeably formative (even if it was technically their third album), and LHT was solid but uneven. I felt like GAWM signaled a rebirth for them. I only wish that level of quality would continue.
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