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Post by seanblain on Mar 27, 2011 10:12:46 GMT -5
4. RIHANNA - S&M: 105.341 (+ 2.503) She is truly the queen of radio. Beyonce might have something to say about that. Their Hot 100 Airplay stats are both impressive, though. Katy Perry has become quite the radio staple this era as well and Lady GaGa is getting there. Those other ladies have been impressive but Rihanna has been dominant. Rihanna has occupied the top 2 spots on the airplay list at the same time. |
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Post by Misus+Beysus4EVA on Mar 27, 2011 10:19:27 GMT -5
I still don't understand why they would pull the Kanye version. What could the rationale possibly be? This is really selling a lot, let's make it unavailable? Hm.... its back now on iTunes, so it was a glitch. both versions are top 20 now for the first time. maybe a sales tactic and her label are geniuses? |
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Post by Misus+Beysus4EVA on Mar 27, 2011 10:22:32 GMT -5
4. RIHANNA - S&M: 105.341 (+ 2.503) She is truly the queen of radio. she's not doing anything that hasn't already been done many many times. Mariah is still queen.  |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 27, 2011 11:34:00 GMT -5
4. RIHANNA - S&M: 105.341 (+ 2.503) She is truly the queen of radio. she's not doing anything that hasn't already been done many many times. Mariah is still queen. AMEN: Love the avi and title  |
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Post by Black Jesus on Mar 27, 2011 11:36:24 GMT -5
Beyonce might have something to say about that. Their Hot 100 Airplay stats are both impressive, though. Katy Perry has become quite the radio staple this era as well and Lady GaGa is getting there. Those other ladies have been impressive but Rihanna has been dominant. Rihanna has occupied the top 2 spots on the airplay list at the same time. I'd have to disagree a bit on that one. I think Perry and GaGa's topping is much more impressive, considering neither ladies have the Urban, which is a huge format and has contributed to much of her #1 success on this chart, support behind their songs that Rihanna has. |
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Post by nighttime on Mar 27, 2011 12:06:43 GMT -5
Rihanna's about to reach her 8th pop #1; clearly her radio success is not reliant on the urban format which has only notably supported a small handful of her songs.
And since when does appealing to a more diverse audience become a negative attribute? Ultimately the goal with every artist or product is to do such. The most impressive feat, on the Hot 100 Airplay Chart, is to come out with the biggest numbers - inarguable.
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Post by slw84 on Mar 27, 2011 12:27:43 GMT -5
Rihanna's about to reach her 8th pop #1; clearly her radio success is not reliant on the urban format which has only notably supported a small handful of her songs. >>good point, however, her audience is a combination of pop, rhy, urban and other formats that play her music. If her songs were just on pop...how well would they chart. And since when does appealing to a more diverse audience become a negative attribute? Ultimately the goal with every artist or product is to do such. The most impressive feat, on the Hot 100 Airplay Chart, is to come out with the biggest numbers - inarguable. >>Well, when was the last time you heard Gaga and Katy played heavily on urban radio. The same argument holds when it is beyonce doing well with multi format success. When Gaga can outsell beyonce when she doesn't have urban support and when Katy can score bigger hits with more longevity when rihanna has urban support is quite impressive to many. They are all doing amazing but it does seem impressive for those with a smaller audience to do just as good as their competitors. The same with Adele...she sells more than some of those pop stars that endure media saturation. Some see Adele's success as amazing considering she is not on the level of some of her competition. |
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Post by seanblain on Mar 27, 2011 13:18:49 GMT -5
4. RIHANNA - S&M: 105.341 (+ 2.503) She is truly the queen of radio. she's not doing anything that hasn't already been done many many times. Mariah is still queen. Trust me, I'm well aware of MC's records...lol ;) |
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Post by seanblain on Mar 27, 2011 13:23:49 GMT -5
Rihanna's about to reach her 8th pop #1; clearly her radio success is not reliant on the urban format which has only notably supported a small handful of her songs. >>good point, however, her audience is a combination of pop, rhy, urban and other formats that play her music. If her songs were just on pop...how well would they chart. And since when does appealing to a more diverse audience become a negative attribute? Ultimately the goal with every artist or product is to do such. The most impressive feat, on the Hot 100 Airplay Chart, is to come out with the biggest numbers - inarguable. >>Well, when was the last time you heard Gaga and Katy played heavily on urban radio. The same argument holds when it is beyonce doing well with multi format success. When Gaga can outsell beyonce when she doesn't have urban support and when Katy can score bigger hits with more longevity when rihanna has urban support is quite impressive to many. They are all doing amazing but it does seem impressive for those with a smaller audience to do just as good as their competitors. The same with Adele...she sells more than some of those pop stars that endure media saturation. Some see Adele's success as amazing considering she is not on the level of some of her competition. The urban argument is old and tired. It's not Rihanna's fault her music reaches across genres. |
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Post by wunderkind on Mar 27, 2011 13:33:33 GMT -5
^ I didn't see anybody say it was "her fault."
They just said she has a larger audience potential because she CAN get Urban airplay, which is true. They also said that it's impressive that people with less airplay audience can sell as well as (or better) than Rihanna, which is true.
I think a better example of this would be Carrie Underwood, who has had three multi-platinum albums without really getting radio airplay outside of country radio (main exception was "Before He Cheats"). Adele is another great example of somebody who sells well without tons of media exposure.
It is impressive how well these artists sell without being shoved down peoples throats by the media... people like Rihanna wouldn't sell without that exposure.
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Post by seanblain on Mar 27, 2011 13:45:18 GMT -5
^ I didn't see anybody say it was "her fault." They just said she has a larger audience potential because she CAN get Urban airplay, which is true. They also said that it's impressive that people with less airplay audience can sell as well as (or better) than Rihanna, which is true. I think a better example of this would be Carrie Underwood, who has had three multi-platinum albums without really getting radio airplay outside of country radio (main exception was "Before He Cheats"). Adele is another great example of somebody who sells well without tons of media exposure. It is impressive how well these artists sell without being shoved down peoples throats by the media... people like Rihanna wouldn't sell without that exposure. Katy and Gaga CAN get urgan airplay as well and all artist have the same audience potential. |
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Mar 27, 2011 14:21:00 GMT -5
Lets not forget Rhythmic as well.
Katy & GaGa don't get as much support there, (especially GaGa) .
But on the Flip Side rihanna doesn't get support on AC & Hot AC
Katy - Pop/CHR, AC, HOT AC & Decent amounts of Rhythmic
RiRi - Pop/CHR, Rhythmic & Urban on some singles
GaGa - Pop/CHR, Decent support on AC/Hot AC & Partial Rhythmic Support.
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Post by nighttime on Mar 27, 2011 14:26:51 GMT -5
Rihanna's about to reach her 8th pop #1; clearly her radio success is not reliant on the urban format which has only notably supported a small handful of her songs. >>good point, however, her audience is a combination of pop, rhy, urban and other formats that play her music. If her songs were just on pop...how well would they chart. And since when does appealing to a more diverse audience become a negative attribute? Ultimately the goal with every artist or product is to do such. The most impressive feat, on the Hot 100 Airplay Chart, is to come out with the biggest numbers - inarguable. >>Well, when was the last time you heard Gaga and Katy played heavily on urban radio. The same argument holds when it is beyonce doing well with multi format success. When Gaga can outsell beyonce when she doesn't have urban support and when Katy can score bigger hits with more longevity when rihanna has urban support is quite impressive to many. They are all doing amazing but it does seem impressive for those with a smaller audience to do just as good as their competitors. The same with Adele...she sells more than some of those pop stars that endure media saturation. Some see Adele's success as amazing considering she is not on the level of some of her competition. I don't know what you're going on about? The argument was over who's the "Radio Queen"... Clearly in this argument, the most impressive feat is those that score the biggest impressions/spins/etc. |
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Post by Black Jesus on Mar 27, 2011 14:58:37 GMT -5
^ I didn't see anybody say it was "her fault." They just said she has a larger audience potential because she CAN get Urban airplay, which is true. They also said that it's impressive that people with less airplay audience can sell as well as (or better) than Rihanna, which is true. I think a better example of this would be Carrie Underwood, who has had three multi-platinum albums without really getting radio airplay outside of country radio (main exception was "Before He Cheats"). Adele is another great example of somebody who sells well without tons of media exposure. It is impressive how well these artists sell without being shoved down peoples throats by the media... people like Rihanna wouldn't sell without that exposure. Katy and Gaga CAN get urgan airplay as well and all artist have the same audience potential. ...you're kidding right? ??? |
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Post by $uperb@tDuDe on Mar 27, 2011 15:59:03 GMT -5
The fact that Rihanna gets more airplay does make her the current queen of radio, and the fact that she can be played on Top 40, Rhythmic, Urban, and Hot AC simultaneously only bolsters this fact not detracts from it like some are trying to do.
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Post by Caviar on Mar 27, 2011 18:42:42 GMT -5
^ This.
Why is this so hard to understand? RiRi is a THE undisputed radio queen! ???
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2011 18:55:28 GMT -5
^ This. Why is this so hard to understand? RiRi is a THE undisputed radio queen! ??? At the moment. |
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Post by Misus+Beysus4EVA on Mar 27, 2011 20:27:46 GMT -5
she's not doing anything that hasn't already been done many many times. Mariah is still queen. AMEN: Love the avi and title likewise |
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Post by Misus+Beysus4EVA on Mar 27, 2011 20:29:08 GMT -5
The fact that Rihanna gets more airplay does make her the current queen of radio that's the keyword previously missing. It seems her fans forget with her last album Russian Roulette was a disappointment at radio, Hard struggled for airplay, and and we wont even comment on Rock Star 101 last year. So yea, she can have the title for NOW, but the real title goes to whoever can dominate radio album after album. And with that dismal song California King Bed going out next, her reign will end. Then again, when CKB flops they may try to push one more but they will be dumb and not go with Cheers, the only hit left on the album. just like they were dumb and picked Rock Star 101 over Firebomb or Photographs. |
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Post by Misus+Beysus4EVA on Mar 27, 2011 20:32:02 GMT -5
Katy and Gaga CAN get urgan airplay as well and all artist have the same audience potential. ...you're kidding right? ??? they have to be. If Madonna couldn't with '4 Minutes' and a trip to 106 & Park, they never will |
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Post by Misus+Beysus4EVA on Mar 27, 2011 20:53:29 GMT -5
I really hope Katy get's number 1 next week. But I won't hold my breath! She will. The tricky tactic her label used seems to be paying off as both versions of E.T. are top 15 on itunes now. Her sales will be greater than last week, as will her airplay. |
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Post by Heartless Angel on Mar 28, 2011 12:15:40 GMT -5
^ I didn't see anybody say it was "her fault." It is impressive how well these artists sell without being shoved down peoples throats by the media... people like Rihanna wouldn't sell without that exposure. I don't believe that statement, and there is no data to support such a view, but we will never know since she does have media exposure. |
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Post by Choco on Mar 28, 2011 12:36:54 GMT -5
S&M has hardly got any promotion and it's doing well on it's own.
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Post by worldwide on Mar 28, 2011 12:46:42 GMT -5
The fact that Rihanna gets more airplay does make her the current queen of radio, and the fact that she can be played on Top 40, Rhythmic, Urban, and Hot AC simultaneously only bolsters this fact not detracts from it like some are trying to do. but mariah is the queen. just because rihanna is doing amazingly well right no it doesn't make her a queen, more like a princess. also, I don't remember her breaking any airplay record or at least any significant. MC is the queen, it's usless to deny that. |
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Post by Misus+Beysus4EVA on Mar 28, 2011 12:48:42 GMT -5
S&M has hardly got any promotion and it's doing well on it's own. ??? music videos and radio airplay are the two most common and most important forms of promotion for a song. songs have never needed a performance to make it a hit. |
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Post by badrobot on Mar 28, 2011 12:53:24 GMT -5
Oh good. We're fighting over who's a princess and who's a queen. Why does anyone care about this kind of stuff? Unless one of these singers is in line for the British monarchy there's no point in this.
Anyone have any actual chart updates or commentary relevant to the Hot 100?
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Post by Misus+Beysus4EVA on Mar 28, 2011 12:56:06 GMT -5
Oh good. We're fighting over who's a princess and who's a queen. Why does anyone care about this kind of stuff? Unless one of these singers is in line for the British monarchy there's no point in this. lmao, valid point |
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Post by badrobot on Mar 28, 2011 13:06:56 GMT -5
1. CEE LO GREEN - F**k You (Forget You): 120.624 (+ 1.055)
2. RIHANNA - S&M: 109.248 (+ 1.942) ▲
3. LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 108.144 (- 0.512) ▼
4. PINK - F**kin' Perfect (Perfect): 106.082 (- 0.390)
5. BRUNO MARS - Grenade: 92.907 (- 0.467) ▲
6. ENRIQUE IGLESIAS - Tonight f/Ludacris: 92.750 (- 2.046) ▼
7. JEREMIH - Down On Me f/50 Cent: 89.771 (+ 0.887)
8. NICKI MINAJ - Moment 4 Life f/Drake: 88.530 (+ 0.931)
9. KATY PERRY - Firework: 76.023 (- 0.937)
10. PITBULL - Hey Baby (Drop It To The...: 75.666 (- 0.821)
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11. KATY PERRY - E.T.: 73.072 (+ 2.330)
12. USHER - More: 66.517 (+ 0.069)
13. BRUNO MARS - Just The Way You Are: 62.494 (- 0.054)
14. CHRIS BROWN - Look At Me Now: 59.900 (+ 0.668)
15. DIDDY-DIRTY MONEY - Coming Home: 56.842 (- 0.279)
16. THOMPSON SQUARE - Are You Gonna Kiss Me Or Not: 54.677 (+ 0.275)
17. KERI HILSON - Pretty Girl Rock: 54.620 (+ 0.348)
18. JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON - Don't You Wanna Stay: 51.761 (- 0.558)
19. BILLY CURRINGTON - Let Me Down Easy: 50.708 (- 0.840)
20. ZAC BROWN BAND - Colder Weather: 50.540 (+ 0.185) ▲
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PINK - Raise Your Glass: 50.243 (- 0.499)
KANYE WEST - All Of The Lights: 49.123 (+ 0.751)
KE$HA - Blow: 48.742 (+ 0.647)
CHRIS BROWN - Yeah 3x: 47.660 (- 0.134)
DARIUS RUCKER - This: 45.199
BRITNEY SPEARS - Till The World Ends: 41.777 (+ 1.494)
BLACK EYED PEAS - Just Can't Get Enough: 41.193 (+ 1.457)
CHRISTINA PERRI - Jar Of Hearts: 40.909 (- 0.412)
AVRIL LAVIGNE - What The Hell: 39.756 (- 0.166)
MIRANDA LAMBERT - Heart Like Mine: 38.593 (+ 0.531)
KENNY CHESNEY - Live A Little: 37.644 (+ 0.305)
TRAIN - Marry Me: 36.314 (- 0.245)
THE SCRIPT - For The First Time: 33.988 (+ 0.186)
TINIE TEMPAH - Written In The Stars f/ETurner: 33.181 (+ 0.738)
JENNIFER LOPEZ f/ PITBULL - On The Floor: 32.097 (+ 0.929)
TREY SONGZ - Love Faces: 31.676 (- 0.229)
NICKI MINAJ - Did It On'em: 30.895 (+ 0.674)
SUGARLAND - Little Miss: 30.368 (+ 0.389)
DR. DRE - I Need A Doctor f/ Eminem: 28.986 (+ 0.818)
NEW BOYZ - Back Seat f/Cataracs & Dev: 28.429 (+ 0.767)
KEITH URBAN - Without You: 27.156 (+ 0.052)
ADELE - Rolling In The Deep: 25.935 (+ 1.010)
THE BAND PERRY - You Lie: 25.513 (+ 0.261)
BRUNO MARS - Lazy Song: 25.070 (+ 0.649)
JENNIFER HUDSON - Where You At: 19.454 (- 0.045)
FOO FIGHTERS - Rope: 18.707 (+ 0.142)
JESSIE J - Price Tag f/B.O.B: 18.671 (+ 0.019)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Mean: 16.969 (+ 1.397)
MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE - Sing: 14.672 (+ 0.064)
JAY SEAN - Hit The Lights f/Lil Wayne: 13.781 (=)
KEYSHIA COLE - Take Me Away: 11.389 (- 0.274)
MIKE POSNER F/LIL WAYNE - Bow Chicka Wow Wow: 10.570 (+ 0.108)
BLACK KEYS - Howlin' For You: 7.535 (- 0.006)
COLBIE CAILLAT - I Do: 7.160 (+ 0.151)
STROKES - Under Cover Of Darkness: 4.367 (+ 0.057)
SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE - Who Says: 2.205 (- 0.228)
PANIC AT THE DISCO - The Ballad Of Mona Lisa: 1.939 (+ 0.064)
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Post by felipe on Mar 28, 2011 13:15:14 GMT -5
S&M has hardly got any promotion and it's doing well on it's own. ??? music videos and radio airplay are the two most common and most important forms of promotion for a song. songs have never needed a performance to make it a hit. Exactly. S&M had a much talked about video + the fact that she's coming from two hits which automatically makes people/radio interested in the follow-up. Without all the media exposure I do believe she'd be back to the kind of success she had with her first album. |
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Post by Lockheart on Mar 28, 2011 13:26:42 GMT -5
I can't at all this radio queen talk and no mentioned of BRITNEY!!  sarcasm if they can't read itGo get that top 20 radio hit Britney. |
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