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Post by pen on Mar 24, 2011 18:42:44 GMT -5
Single comes out April 26th, album Am I The Enemy to follow in August or so. Effort was produced by John Feldmann. Not sure what label is releasing it since they're independent right now. Song makes it sound like they're going all nu-metal, which I'll confess is a better direction for them than what they were trying to achieve on Lonely Road.
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Post by lockebox on Mar 24, 2011 18:53:40 GMT -5
Is this the official radio single? Yeah, this sounds heavier than anything on "Lonely Road". I thought "You Better Pray" was solid, but the rest of that record was sub-par.
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Post by Devin on Mar 24, 2011 19:02:47 GMT -5
I thought "You Better Pray" was solid, but the rest of that record was sub-par. +1 I thought they were going to try to crossover with "Pen & Paper" or "Represent" since "Face Down" was such a surprise pop hit in 2007. I think "Reap" will do better on active then alternative, as their sound has been fitting active more as time goes by. Active: #16 Alternative: #23 |
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Post by pen on Mar 24, 2011 19:10:53 GMT -5
Is this the official radio single? Yeah, this sounds heavier than anything on "Lonely Road". I thought "You Better Pray" was solid, but the rest of that record was sub-par. Well it's being released to iTunes on April 26th. I'm assuming between that and this lyric video that it's at least going to get some kind of a push, but like I said before, they're independent now, so I don't know who's going to be doing the pushing. |
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 24, 2011 19:14:23 GMT -5
I think their name has faded enough that those predictions might be a bit on the generous side, but the general idea is right. If it is indeed the radio single:
Active: #22
Alternative: #33 (#29 on Billboard)
This is my favorite song that I've heard from these guys so I hope it does better.
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Post by Devin on Mar 24, 2011 19:20:07 GMT -5
I'm saying it's going to do worse on alternative and better on active, so it's kind of a give and take situation. ;)
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 24, 2011 21:24:23 GMT -5
This is quite good, better than the singles off their last album.
I think it'll do better on Alternative, cause they've never had a single go past Top 30 on Active.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 24, 2011 21:26:14 GMT -5
Yeah, but look at Sick Puppies. If a previously alternative-leaning band puts out a song like this, especially with alternative leaning indie now, a flip-flop will take place. Alternative may give them more support out of the gate, but I think ultimately, this is an active rock song.
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Post by American Idiot on Mar 24, 2011 23:28:36 GMT -5
Holy crap. I had no idea that they were releasing anything anytime soon. My eyes widened when I saw the title of this thread. This song sounds completely different than anything off of the two albums. Definitely nu-metalish and I'm shocked to hear it. "Don't Fake It" was all screamo/pop-punk and "Lonely Road" was mostly very mellow with some lighter pop-punk in there. I loved "Don't Fake It" and "Lonely Road" was decent for what it was, but I actually really like this new direction they seem o be trying to take here. This sounds like it could be decently successful I'm predicting better on Active than Alternative.
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Post by Devin on Mar 25, 2011 7:31:17 GMT -5
Besides, "You Better Pray" outpeaked "Face Down" on active, while "You Better Pray" just made it to Top 20. There wasn't a huge difference between the two. Plus "You Better Pray" was far more active leaning than any of their material beforehand.
"Reap" fits in with bands like Saliva, who find all their success on active these days. I think the only reason this'll do ok on alternative is because of alt's support for A Day to Remember's "All I Want". Otherwise, the alt scene is way to indie leaning to have a single like this get to Top 10, let alone Top 20.
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Post by crash46 on Mar 25, 2011 7:42:49 GMT -5
I laughed when I saw they were trying to tour with Seether and My Darkest Days.
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Post by American Idiot on Mar 25, 2011 12:52:36 GMT -5
I laughed when I saw they were trying to tour with Seether and My Darkest Days. Yeah... I understand they're trying to change their sound if the rest of their new material sounds like this song, but I can't see that going well at all. I'd assume most fans of those two bands were not big fans of "Face Down," which is what casual rock fans would only know them by. |
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 25, 2011 15:07:29 GMT -5
Hope they bounce back! I always lump this band with Trapt as one-hit flameouts.... and no, not one single or video, just one shot at radio stardom.
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Post by American Idiot on Mar 25, 2011 15:52:01 GMT -5
Hope they bounce back! I always lump this band with Trapt as one-hit flameouts.... and no, not one single or video, just one shot at radio stardom. ??? Headstrong - #1 on Alt. & Active Still Frame - #3 on Alt. and #1 on Active Echo - #10 on Alt. and #13 on Active Stand Up - #17 on Alt. and #3 on Active Waiting - #27 on Alt. and #20 on Active Disconnected (Out of Touch) - #24 on Active Who's Going With You Tonight? - #31 on Alt. and #11 on Active Contagious - #16 on Active Sound Off - #16 on Active |
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Mar 25, 2011 15:58:33 GMT -5
Perfect example. Their first ever Modern single went to #1, then they couldn't score another top 10 on any subsequent album. Not completely DOA though.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 25, 2011 18:03:19 GMT -5
Perfect example. Their first ever Modern single went to #1, then they couldn't score another top 10 on any subsequent album. So "Stand Up" didn't hit #3 on Active? |
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Post by Devin on Mar 25, 2011 18:03:34 GMT -5
^ He said Modern (aka Alternative)
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 25, 2011 18:14:32 GMT -5
It is weird how Trapt had three alternative top 10s from one album and then never had one again. I feel like if "Waiting" or "Disconnected" had been first, things might have been different. "Stand Up" was a fairly heavy choice for a lead single.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 25, 2011 18:18:35 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if the Red Jumpsuit Apparatus charts at all in 2011, or ever again, for that matter. I just don't see radio caring about this band anymore, regardless of what they sound like. I think that if they sounded like "Face Down" still, radio wouldn't bother because that sound is outdated and that was 4-5 years ago. And even if they sounded completely different and commercially viable in a different way, I just don't see radio touching them because of "Face Down."
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 25, 2011 18:30:53 GMT -5
What constitutes not charting at all? Because considering "You Better Pray" charted on active rock, if this song gets an adds date there, it WILL go top 50. And I think their name is still worth a top 50 on alternative. I think it will go top 40 on both formats ultimately, and I picked it to go top 30 on active even, but I think top 50 is a guarantee on both rock formats assuming it gets an adds date at both, and their label has any interest in pushing them.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 25, 2011 18:44:17 GMT -5
What constitutes not charting at all? Because considering "You Better Pray" charted on active rock, if this song gets an adds date there, it WILL go top 50. And I think their name is still worth a top 50 on alternative. I'll concede a Top 50 hit on Active, but I stand behind saying I'd be surprised if an RJA single made the Top 50 on Alternative again. |
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Post by halo19 on Mar 26, 2011 2:32:50 GMT -5
"You Better Pray" was only a hit because of "Face Down," at least from my viewpoint. It never seemed radio friendly to me.
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Post by crash46 on Mar 26, 2011 12:43:29 GMT -5
So did they really change their name to Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, or do we have another naming error? Or am I just being a dumbass? *sigh*. Here we go... |
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Post by lockebox on Apr 8, 2011 18:42:29 GMT -5
Adds date: April 26th.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 9, 2011 2:27:12 GMT -5
Uh...how can a quote be dated 2 months and 5 days into the future? |
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Post by Ron57 on Apr 9, 2011 2:28:27 GMT -5
If it's anything like their "Hell Over High Water EP" then this will be terrible.
Hope they go back to their roots.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Apr 10, 2011 15:17:02 GMT -5
Uh...how can a quote be dated 2 months and 5 days into the future? You must admit....it would explain a lot. I guess its today that we find out that Artie's real name is Bill S Preston Esquire..... |
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 6, 2011 12:29:25 GMT -5
Top 50 on Active:
65 50 RED JUMPSUIT APPARATUS Reap 83 46 37 0.188
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Post by Devin on May 6, 2011 13:01:37 GMT -5
And it hits active first! :o Not a surprise really.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 6, 2011 15:23:10 GMT -5
Not only did it hit the top 50 of active first. It also has 0 alternative stations that have added it so far. This song is looking active-only.
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