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Post by lockebox on Apr 1, 2011 11:11:13 GMT -5
Lead single from his sophomore effort. They pushed a couple of singles to Rock from his debut album, so who knows. The title definitely doesn't sound too rockin', however.
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Post by American Idiot on Apr 1, 2011 13:17:53 GMT -5
I liked the singles I heard from him before. I always compare him with the way Daughtry sounds despite they were both on AI. I don't see why both artists never did anything on Alternative as they sound a lot like the softer Nickelback songs, but then again those are the ones that usually do better on Hot AC/AAA/CHR anyway.
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Post by lockebox on Apr 23, 2011 19:24:07 GMT -5
Strong chorus on this one. HAC will eat this up...
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 23, 2011 21:51:09 GMT -5
^I can't believe you don't want Adele on Alternative, but you're okay with this lol
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Post by pen on Apr 23, 2011 22:10:49 GMT -5
Pretty generic, more so than I expected from him.
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Post by Hook on Apr 23, 2011 22:12:40 GMT -5
Which singles from his debut did they push to rock? I wasn't aware they ever did that.
This song obviously poppy, but I hope he hasa some rock tracks on his album.
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Post by pen on Apr 23, 2011 22:15:36 GMT -5
He had rock tracks on his last album, but his label is fucking dumb.
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 23, 2011 22:25:07 GMT -5
He had rock tracks on his last album, but his label is f**king dumb. Real rock tracks? This sounds like a really bad track from Bryan Adams or Michael Bolton - I think it would've flopped in 1989, never mind now  |
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Post by Devin on Apr 23, 2011 22:34:17 GMT -5
"Bar-ba-sol" went for active and alternative adds back in 2009.
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Post by pen on Apr 23, 2011 22:48:15 GMT -5
He had rock tracks on his last album, but his label is f**king dumb. Real rock tracks? This sounds like a really bad track from Bryan Adams or Michael Bolton - I think it would've flopped in 1989, never mind now Real rock tracks. So juicy you can sink your teeth into them. Bear in mind that Raine Maida co-wrote most of them, and if you diss them, I take that as a diss against Raine, and since OLP is my favorite band, if you diss them, there will be blood. |
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 24, 2011 8:20:01 GMT -5
^Lol I'm glad there's a ten hour drive between you and me - I seriously doubt this new song was written by anyone from Our Lady Peace though
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Post by pen on Apr 24, 2011 8:42:15 GMT -5
^Lol I'm glad there's a ten hour drive between you and me - I seriously doubt this new song was written by anyone from Our Lady Peace though It wasn't, it was aided by Ryan Tedder. |
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 24, 2011 8:43:59 GMT -5
I just reminded myself how pretty good "Bar-ba-sol" was. It wasn't enough to make me love David Cook or anything, but his voice is good and that song had a cool vibe to it. The song showed way better songwriting, instrumental, and vocal chops than the average post-grunge song. It should have been a rock hit imo.
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Post by Devin on Apr 24, 2011 8:49:41 GMT -5
I guess it's because he was too commercialized or mainstream being on American Idol and all. Rock PDs didn't take it seriously I guess. They definitely won't touch this, so I don't see the point of a thread.
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Post by pen on Apr 24, 2011 9:20:07 GMT -5
I just reminded myself how pretty good "Bar-ba-sol" was. It wasn't enough to make me love David Cook or anything, but his voice is good and that song had a cool vibe to it. The song showed way better songwriting, instrumental, and vocal chops than the average post-grunge song. It should have been a rock hit imo. It was actually a track from Injected's unreleased second album. Remember them? |
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 24, 2011 10:14:56 GMT -5
^Lol I'm glad there's a ten hour drive between you and me - I seriously doubt this new song was written by anyone from Our Lady Peace though It wasn't, it was aided by Ryan Tedder. That explains it lol - Ryan Tedder doesn't write rock - he writes pop with an edgy drumbeat |
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 24, 2011 11:44:07 GMT -5
I just reminded myself how pretty good "Bar-ba-sol" was. It wasn't enough to make me love David Cook or anything, but his voice is good and that song had a cool vibe to it. The song showed way better songwriting, instrumental, and vocal chops than the average post-grunge song. It should have been a rock hit imo. It was actually a track from Injected's unreleased second album. Remember them? Yessir. I have their debut in my CD collection. Never got the follow-up though. I saw somebody wearing an Injected T-shirt a few weeks ago at the Fair To Midland/Periphery show and told him that he and I were likely the only people in the whole room who remembered them. |
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Post by Devin on Apr 24, 2011 12:44:39 GMT -5
They never did have a follow-up. "Unreleased"?
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Post by pen on Apr 24, 2011 12:45:45 GMT -5
The demos for the second album are floating around the internet here and there. Never heard them though. David Cook was apparently a big fan of Injected though, which is why Bar-Ba-Sol ended up on his album. I wonder what Danny Grady is doing now? I know him and Butch Walker are big pals.
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Post by Devin on Apr 24, 2011 12:49:20 GMT -5
^ The band's actually working on a possible new album. I think they are re-using tracks from their unreleased album called The Truth About You. Not sure it'll go ahead though. They were working together last summer.
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Post by pen on Apr 24, 2011 12:54:55 GMT -5
^ The band's actually working on a possible new album. I think they are re-using tracks from their unreleased album called The Truth About You. Not sure it'll go ahead though. They were working together last summer. I read that on Wik, but I can't find evidence. |
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Post by lockebox on Apr 24, 2011 16:37:30 GMT -5
^I can't believe you don't want Adele on Alternative, but you're okay with this lol I've explained several times that I don't think Adele is "rock." David Cook is a rock singer. I originally heard about the new single on Tunelab/Rockaccess, so I think it's pretty legitimate. I don't think you'd be seeing Adele on those websites. I created the thread 'cause there are rockers here who are fans of David Cook. I know this won't chart, but there's people here that are interested + the Alt/Rock section is pretty much like another forum, so I considered it relevant to post here. For instance, Pen created a KMFDM thread earlier this year. Also, I never mentioned that I thought this should do well on Alternative. Which singles from his debut did they push to rock? Both "Light On" & "Bar-ba-sol" got sent to rock. He had rock tracks on his last album, but his label is f**king dumb. How so? Do you mean by not releasing "rockier" material?? I really think DC should have started a band, and gone in the Daughtry direction. He had rock tracks on his last album, but his label is f**king dumb. Real rock tracks? This sounds like a really bad track from Bryan Adams or Michael Bolton - I think it would've flopped in 1989, never mind now Sounds more like something on the last Our Lady Peace record, to me, which is probably what he was going for, seeing as they're his favorite band. |
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 24, 2011 20:48:57 GMT -5
I've explained several times that I don't think Adele is "rock." David Cook is a rock singer. I mean, I don't want to beat this to death, but I just don't get this David Cook-rock thing... John Mayer is a rock singer too, and so is Jason Wade of Lifehouse, and Pat Monahan of Train - you don't see their stuff going for Active/Alternative adds |
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Post by pen on Apr 24, 2011 21:38:11 GMT -5
David Cook's stuff has a harder edge than they do.
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Post by lockebox on Apr 25, 2011 16:41:25 GMT -5
Yeah, you can't compare David Cook to John Mayer & Train. That's just ridiculous. "Bar-ba-sol" probably would have charted had it been released by someone who hadn't just won American Idol.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 25, 2011 16:53:35 GMT -5
I think he has SOME stuff that's harder hitting. I feel like "Time Of My Life" and even "Light On" are closer to the range of Train/John Mayer. And Lifehouse probably could still be hitting mid-30's on alternative had "You And Me" not been the lead single off their third album. Granted, they also might not be around anymore period had they not released that as a massive pop hit. But I agree with atlantaboy to an extent. Even though Cook has some heavier songs, his label has definitely marketed him as a Hot AC act. If he was meant to be a serious active rock threat, "Time Of My Life" should NEVER have been the first single off the album. Period.
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Post by lockebox on Apr 25, 2011 16:59:58 GMT -5
Well, he got given "Time of My Life" after winning American Idol, so he couldn't really do much about that. He was singing Collective Soul & Our Lady Peace on Idol... so, I think winning ruined his rock credentials, really.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 25, 2011 17:02:23 GMT -5
Yeah that's probably true. I don't know if they have a lifetime hold on his career, but hopefully he, Daughtry, and Adam Lambert can someday release albums with complete creative control as far as who they want to write with and what type of artist they want to be. Especially with Adam Lambert, I feel the results would improve dramatically (musically, probably not in terms of sales).
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Post by lockebox on Apr 25, 2011 17:11:54 GMT -5
I think Daughtry was seen more of a "Idol reject" having finished 4th + he released an album perfect for Active at the time, and the label supported him pretty heavily on both Alt. & Rock.
Adam Lambert confused me. He sang all the classic rock stuff on Idol, but then released a dance-pop album. Ok, he had a few pop-rock tunes present, but I was expecting more rocking material, seeing as he was sporting the devil horns nearly every week on Idol.
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Post by pen on Apr 25, 2011 18:31:01 GMT -5
To be fair, "Time Of My Life" is only a bonus track on his debut album. It shouldn't really be considered the first single.
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