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Post by Phanarchist on Apr 2, 2011 17:12:39 GMT -5
I just got an email from Epic about what I believe is the new Incubus single clients.allaccess.com/mail/I/incubus/adolescents.htmlI'm not sure if you guys can view the link and maybe this has already been talked about but i didn't see it on here. the new album is called "If Not Now, When?" and is due July 12.
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Post by pen on Apr 2, 2011 19:34:49 GMT -5
I figured "Adolescents" was the single title but I thought the latter was a subtitle, not the album name. I've seen that page before elsewhere but where do you see about July 12th?
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Post by Phanarchist on Apr 2, 2011 20:12:51 GMT -5
i was reading on another site that the album was called ""If Not Now, When?" and the site also said the album was due out in the fall but then had it corrected to July 12. I can't find the link though so things may have changed.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Apr 3, 2011 11:45:17 GMT -5
Excited for this.
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Apr 3, 2011 11:51:01 GMT -5
Excited!
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Post by Ron57 on Apr 3, 2011 11:58:47 GMT -5
Pretty sure 4/4 is the day that it'll be released...don't think it's necessary in the title.
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Post by lockebox on Apr 3, 2011 17:31:08 GMT -5
Pretty sure 4/4 is the day that it'll be released...don't think it's necessary in the title. You're right. That needs to be removed. I hope they go heavy again... yeah.
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Post by pen on Apr 3, 2011 21:53:29 GMT -5
Pretty sure 4/4 is the day that it'll be released...don't think it's necessary in the title. You're right. That needs to be removed. I hope they go heavy again... yeah. Like how heavy?
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 3, 2011 22:10:40 GMT -5
I'll obviously let Mat answer for himself, but I generally agree.
I'd like them to return a bit to the sound of Make Yourself or Morning View with some elements of the funk-metal aesthetic that was their signature on S.C.I.E.N.C.E. However, I know that this will not happen. I think an album that sounds a bit more similar to Morning View shouldn't be too much of a far cry.
More than anything, I wish that they still had Dirk Lance on bass.
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Post by Ron57 on Apr 3, 2011 22:16:07 GMT -5
I hope it's similar to "Megalomaniac" honestly.
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Post by pen on Apr 3, 2011 22:41:14 GMT -5
I hope it's similar to Incubus.
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Post by singingsparrow on Apr 3, 2011 23:34:25 GMT -5
Pretty sure 4/4 is the day that it'll be released...don't think it's necessary in the title. You're right. That needs to be removed. I hope they go heavy again... yeah. Incubus has never resonated to me as an either/or band, or a band that sees musical texture in black and white, so I'm perplexed by this statement. Their dabbling in various musical textures is what has made them appealing, above all else, since their inception in my view. There's never been an album that lacked either "darker" or "lighter" shades of gray, or "heavier" or "softer" sounds if you will. Just as "Morning View" had a representation of considerably "heavy" moments, their two earliest albums had a representation of considerably "soft" moments. And their most recent album "Light Grenades" had great variety, with "fierce" tracks like the title track and "Quicksand", and "gentle" songs like "Paper Shoes", and both polarities colliding on tracks like "Earth to Bella". Incubus, I'm convinced, just don't enter the studio with the intention of making a "softer" album, or a "heavier" album, or an album of any one attribute for that matter. If anything, with Incubus, the only thing that you know you're going to get is a hodge-podge of varying textures, for better or worse. They're no either/or band. They're at least an either/or/on the other hand/then maybe/perhaps/try this on/how about this/top it off with this/and last but not least kind of band. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Apr 4, 2011 9:35:53 GMT -5
Radio rip: www.megaupload.com/?d=NK2DOKSJGood song, definitely hints at a new sound for them (but then again their sound always changes). Not sure how radio-friendly it is, but I think Incubus is still big enough at this format that it should at least hit top 5. EDIT: Also on YouTube
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Post by American Idiot on Apr 4, 2011 10:01:34 GMT -5
Not a bad song, but from the first listen, it doesn't seem like it'll be that memorable. Honestly, this sounds more like a album track than something that should be released as a debut single.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 4, 2011 10:51:48 GMT -5
Definitely sounds more like their last two albums than anything from an earlier era, which while that disappoints me is exactly what I had expected. That said, I really like the song, but I've liked every lead single Incubus has ever released. I hope this song is big because it definitely has a really cool sound and vibe.
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Post by lockebox on Apr 4, 2011 11:12:16 GMT -5
I'll obviously let Mat answer for himself, but I generally agree. I'd like them to return a bit to the sound of Make Yourself or Morning View with some elements of the funk-metal aesthetic that was their signature on S.C.I.E.N.C.E. However, I know that this will not happen. I think an album that sounds a bit more similar to Morning View shouldn't be too much of a far cry. More than anything, I wish that they still had Dirk Lance on bass. I'd agree with all that. They just sound so soft now. *listens to song* Yeah, I knew that was wishful thinking.
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Post by pen on Apr 4, 2011 11:48:53 GMT -5
This song actually...is kind of disappointing. I've had no problem with Incubus' direction over the last few years. I mean, I love Crow and Light Grenades and I even really dig the b-sides collection Monuments And Melodies but this song doesn't really have anything going for it. It feels repetitive and not all that memorable which are the last two things I would've expected from Incubus. I'm starting to get a little concerned.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Apr 4, 2011 11:56:57 GMT -5
Can't say I agree about this being unmemorable. I've had the chorus stuck in my head ever since I heard it. I'll give you repetitive, but it's not like Incubus is any stranger to repetition. ("Wish You Were Here", anyone?)
And as far as the sound goes, while it's more similar to their last two albums than to anything before, I think there's still something distinctive about this this song, while at the same time it's still recognizably Incubus.
Granted, I wouldn't say that I'm blown away by this song, or that it's one of their best ever. But I'd say it's better than at least half of their post-Morning View material.
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Post by pen on Apr 4, 2011 12:16:16 GMT -5
Yes but "Wish You Were Here" was a much stronger song. I don't feel the same about this and I completely disagree about your comparison to Morning View.
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Post by pen on Apr 4, 2011 12:21:36 GMT -5
Listening a second time, it's not a bad song. Just not what I was expecting from an Incubus lead single. It doesn't stand out or stick as well as "Pardon Me" or "Wish You Were Here" or "Megalomaniac" or "Anna-Molly" or even "Black Heart Inertia". It just feels like a generic Incubus song, if you can call Incubus generic.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Apr 4, 2011 14:26:23 GMT -5
Not that it will make you agree with me any more, but for the record, I was referring to the albums after Morning View, not Morning View itself.
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Post by pen on Apr 4, 2011 15:08:18 GMT -5
Not that it will make you agree with me any more, but for the record, I was referring to the albums after Morning View, not Morning View itself. Did you edit that in after or something? Anyway, you're right, it won't make me agree with you more.
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Apr 4, 2011 15:56:39 GMT -5
I liked it a lot!
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Post by Ron57 on Apr 4, 2011 16:41:42 GMT -5
But judging from your avatar, you also enjoyed Foo Fighters's "Rope". Just kidding. I haven't listened yet but I will as soon as my internet stops being stupid.
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Post by singingsparrow on Apr 4, 2011 17:31:18 GMT -5
This song.............lacks that sort of punctuating chorus that defines memorable singles.
The chorus is essentially a single-handed boasting by Boyd of "Out of sight, out of mind, out of time!" at varying pitches. Musically there's nothing that accents or builds upon what we assume is unmistakable passion behind the vocals there.
Which is a shame because I do think the song has an engaging, driving groove, and I especially enjoy the relaxing breakdown around the three minute and twenty second mark on through the four minute mark, which sounds almost like a more glossy, sunnier sample of "Aqueous Transmission".
"Adolescents" sounds like that kind of song where the band get a great idea for a driving groove, an appealing bridge and other key nuts and bolts, but couldn't seem to figure out how to tie them together.........as though they were missing a few parts of an equally as compelling chorus in the songwriting assembly kit. So they just rolled with whatever they had at their disposal, which unfortunately wasn't enough to take the chorus to the next level.
This is a respectable effort, just an unmemorable one as several others have already mentioned. It'll surely chart within the Top Five, but that's not saying all that much.
Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by singingsparrow on Apr 4, 2011 17:38:49 GMT -5
I also must add that Boyd's lyrics are uncharacteristically direct and to-the-point this time around.
It's not to say all of his lyrical output has been oblique and heavy on imagery and metaphoric devices. But even in reasonably direct previous singles like "Are You In" and "Wish You Were Here", there was a generous dose of imagery (such as in the latter) or an ambiguity (such as in the former).
Here, Boyd is as frank and literal as ever. I won't argue whether this style suits Boyd better or worse, but it is an interesting highlight of this track.
Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 4, 2011 17:56:07 GMT -5
It doesn't stand out or stick as well as "Pardon Me" or "Wish You Were Here" or "Megalomaniac" or "Anna-Molly" or even "Black Heart Inertia". It just feels like a generic Incubus song, if you can call Incubus generic. This is WAY better than "Black Heart Inertia" imo.
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Post by Phanarchist on Apr 4, 2011 18:39:56 GMT -5
Pretty sure 4/4 is the day that it'll be released...don't think it's necessary in the title. You're right. That needs to be removed. 4/4 was the add date... i didn't realize it was a problem to put in the title
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Post by pen on Apr 4, 2011 18:43:03 GMT -5
You're right. That needs to be removed. 4/4 was the add date... i didn't realize it was a problem to put in the title It looks kinda tacky.
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Post by weaver on Apr 4, 2011 18:55:47 GMT -5
Do we know when this will hit iTunes?
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